Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / WhereTheWildThingsAre

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Aside from the fact that I can't find anything about the book being panned upon its release (contemporary reviews have been highly positive across the board), this certainly isn't an example of Critical Backlash; I've never seen a single person hold this book in low regard.


* CriticalBacklash: [[VindicatedByHistory You might not know it now]] but back when this book was first released, it was widely panned by both critics and readers alike. Those who decided to read the book themselves don't understand what the big deal is, claiming that it's just a normal kids book, not the worst book ever.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Either the monsters are [[ImaginaryFriend Imaginary Friends]] of Max, or representations of his emotions and the people he lives with. On popular possibility is that they are representations of DotingGrandparents who let him get away with stuff his parents won't and always want him to visit for longer. Max himself can also be seen as a child with [[DiagnosedByTheAudience a personality disorder]]

to:

** Either the monsters are [[ImaginaryFriend Imaginary Friends]] of Max, or representations of his emotions and the people he lives with. On popular possibility is that they are representations of DotingGrandparents [[DotingGrandparent Doting Grandparents]] who let him get away with stuff his parents won't and always want him to visit for longer. Max himself can also be seen as a child with [[DiagnosedByTheAudience a personality disorder]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Either the monsters are [[ImaginaryFriend Imaginary Friends]] of Max, or representations of his emotions and the people he lives with. Max himself can also be seen as a child with [[DiagnosedByTheAudience a personality disorder]].

to:

** Either the monsters are [[ImaginaryFriend Imaginary Friends]] of Max, or representations of his emotions and the people he lives with. On popular possibility is that they are representations of DotingGrandparents who let him get away with stuff his parents won't and always want him to visit for longer. Max himself can also be seen as a child with [[DiagnosedByTheAudience a personality disorder]].disorder]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** As an older sibling, you have a responsibility to take care of your younger siblings, even if they're annoying. Neglecting them will only lead to emotional issues later in life. Claire not taking a quick moment to make sure Max was okay (after her friends destroyed his snow fort) is largely what leads to his outburst later on.

to:

** As an older sibling, you have a responsibility to take care of your younger siblings, even if they're annoying. Neglecting them will only lead to emotional issues later in life. Claire not taking a quick moment to make sure Max was okay (after her friends destroyed his snow fort) fort, with him inside) is largely what leads to his outburst later on.

Changed: 968

Removed: 270

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AlternateAesopInterpretation:
** While it's Max who learns most of the lessons in this story, there are also some that apply to Max's family, especially his mother and sister.
** A child with emotional problems ''needs'' to be treated seriously and with compassion, and despite your needs as parent, ''they'' have to come first. Indeed, much of Max's unruly behaviour in the start of the film is clearly a result of loneliness, and vulnerability.

to:

* AlternateAesopInterpretation:
**
AlternateAesopInterpretation: While it's Max who learns most of the lessons in this story, there are also some that apply to Max's family, especially his mother and sister.
** A child with emotional problems ''needs'' to be treated seriously and with compassion, and despite your needs as parent, ''they'' have to come first. Indeed, much of Max's unruly behaviour in the start of the film is clearly a result of loneliness, loneliness and vulnerability.



** Like Max, Carol hasn't learned to live with change and genuinely wants good things but his tantrums aren't helping matters and, from what's implied, said tantrums (and him being kind of a bully) are the reason as to why [=KW=] spends less time around the other wild things. To top this off, at the end, [[spoiler: he doesn't even get to make amends]].
* NightmareFuel: Carol [[spoiler:ripping off Douglas's arm who starts ''bleeding sand'']].
** Potentially lessened by the fact that none of the characters (including Douglas himself) react in a way that implies that Douglas is in pain and, if anything, [[AngstWhatAngst he reacts more with annoyance]]. However, this could go the other way, and the disproportionate reaction might make it seem even *more* unsettling.

to:

** Like Max, Carol hasn't learned to live with change and genuinely wants good things things, but his tantrums aren't helping matters and, from what's implied, said tantrums (and him being kind of a bully) are the reason as to why [=KW=] K.W. spends less time around the other wild things. To top this off, at the end, [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he doesn't even get to make amends]].
* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
**
Carol [[spoiler:ripping off Douglas's arm Douglas' arm, who starts ''bleeding sand'']].
** Potentially lessened by
sand'']]. The understated reactions from all the fact that none of the characters monsters (including Douglas himself) react in a way that implies that Douglas is in pain and, if anything, [[AngstWhatAngst he reacts ''Douglas himself'', who's more with annoyance]]. However, this could go the other way, and the disproportionate reaction annoyed than anything) might make dull the intensity of the moment for some, but for others, the dissonance makes it seem even *more* all the more unsettling.



** Especially for younger viewers, the scene where Max has to crawl into K.W’s giant maw and hide in her stomach is absolutely traumatizing.

to:

** Especially for younger viewers, the scene where Max has to crawl into K.W’s W.’s giant maw and hide in her stomach is absolutely traumatizing.



* SoOkayItsAverage: Many people tend to view the movie as this. Decent acting and [[{{SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome}} amazing visuals]] aside, it's generally considered Creator/SpikeJonzes' weakest movie. That being said, it's at least watchable compared to other movies based off of kid's books.
* UncertainAudience: The movie falls into this trope. It's based off of a popular kid's book but despite this, it is much DarkerAndEdgier than the book it's based off of and includes scary and sad scenes like [[spoiler:Douglas' arm getting ripped off]] and themes of coping with change and growing up. This might make young kids not want to watch the movie. As for the adults, they might not want to watch the movie either due to it being based off of a book aimed at very young children. Spike Jonze himself [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded this]] in an interview, saying that it wasn't meant to be a kid's film but a "film about childhood".
* VindicatedByHistory: One of the most famous examples in literature. According to Maurice Sendak, when the book was first released, it was not only panned by critics when published in 1963 - it was banned in libraries. Two years later, it was discovered that the book was immensely popular among children and it has since become a hit among critics and audiences alike ever since.

to:

* SoOkayItsAverage: Many people tend to view the movie as this. Decent acting and [[{{SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome}} amazing visuals]] aside, it's generally considered Creator/SpikeJonzes' Creator/SpikeJonze's weakest movie. That being said, it's at least watchable compared to other movies based off of kid's books.
* UncertainAudience: The movie falls into this trope. It's based off of a popular kid's book book, but despite this, it is much DarkerAndEdgier than the book it's based off of its source material and includes scary and sad scenes like [[spoiler:Douglas' arm getting ripped off]] and themes of coping with change and growing up. This might make young kids not want to watch the movie. As for the adults, they might not want to watch the movie either due to it being based off of a book aimed at very young children. Spike Jonze himself [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded this]] in an interview, saying that it wasn't meant to be a kid's film but a "film about childhood".
* VindicatedByHistory: One of the most famous examples in literature. According to Maurice Sendak, when the book was first released, it was not only panned by critics when published in 1963 - it 1963--it was banned in libraries. Two years later, it was discovered that the book was immensely popular among children and it has since become a hit among critics and audiences alike ever since.

Added: 315

Changed: 311

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AlternateAesopInterpretation: While it's Max who learns most of the lessons in this story, there are also some that apply to Max's family, especially his mother and sister.

to:

* AlternateAesopInterpretation: AlternateAesopInterpretation:
**
While it's Max who learns most of the lessons in this story, there are also some that apply to Max's family, especially his mother and sister.



* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The use of [[Music/ArcadeFire Arcade Fire’s]] “Wake Up” in the movie trailer prepares the audience for the surprising amount of TearJerker moments throughout the film.

to:

* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
**
The use of [[Music/ArcadeFire Arcade Fire’s]] “Wake Up” in the movie trailer prepares the audience for the surprising amount of TearJerker moments throughout the film.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* UglyCute: The monsters themselves capture this aesthetic from the book.

to:

* UglyCute: The monsters themselves capture this aesthetic from SoOkayItsAverage: Many people tend to view the book.movie as this. Decent acting and [[{{SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome}} amazing visuals]] aside, it's generally considered Creator/SpikeJonzes' weakest movie. That being said, it's at least watchable compared to other movies based off of kid's books.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CriticalBacklash: [[VindicatedByHistory You might not know it now]] but back when this book was first released, it was widely panned by both critics and readers alike. Those who decided to read the book themselves don't understand what the big deal is, claiming that it's just a normal kids book, not the worst book ever.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FanPreferredCutContent: ''Music/ArcadeFire'' [[WhatCouldHaveBeen was allegedly stated to do the soundtrack]]. They ''did'' re-record their classic song "Wake Up" from their debut album ''Funeral''... which was only in the trailer for a few minutes. Because of this, many people wished that Arcade Fire recorded the soundtrack for the movie.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Either the monsters are [[ImaginaryFriend Imaginary Friends]] of Max, or representations of his emotions and the people he lives with. Max himself can also be seen as a child with [[AmbiguousDisorder a personality disorder]].

to:

** Either the monsters are [[ImaginaryFriend Imaginary Friends]] of Max, or representations of his emotions and the people he lives with. Max himself can also be seen as a child with [[AmbiguousDisorder [[DiagnosedByTheAudience a personality disorder]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* EnsembleDarkHorse: While the movie received a lukewarm response from audiences, a handful of viewers like Max's mother's boyfriend, Adrian, for being a NiceGuy towards her.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Because of his hyperactive personality and tendency to get angered easily, one can infer Max either has ADHD or Borderline Personality Disorder.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* UncertainAudience: The movie falls into this trope. It's based off of a popular kid's book but despite this, it is much DarkerAndEdgier than the book it's based off of and includes scary and sad scenes like [[spoiler:Douglas' arm getting ripped off]] and themes of coping with change and growing up. This might make young kids not want to watch the movie. As for the adults, they might not want to watch the movie either due to it being based off of a book aimed at very young children. Spike Jonze himself [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded this]] in an interview, saying that it wasn't meant to be a kid's film but a "film about childhood".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* VindicatedByHistory: One of the most famous examples in literature. According to Maurice Sendak, when the book was first released, it was not only panned by critics when published in 1963 - it was banned in libraries. Two years later, it was discovered that the book was immensely popular among children and it has since become a hit among critics and audiences alike ever since.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CriticalDissonance: It's very polarizing among audiences but critics were nicer to it. Just for comparison, the film's critical score Website/RottenTomatoes score is a lukewarm but still positive 73% while audience score is a very lukewarm 57%.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AngstAversion: One of the main reasons why the movie [[BoxOfficeBomb flopped]] is because is notorious for being ''very'' depressing to watch. Our protagonist, Max, is having trouble coping with his parents' divorce and he gets into a fight with his mother. He runs away from home after said fight and after [[spoiler:Carol almost eats him]], he [[spoiler:has to leave his new friends behind and go back home]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AlternateAesopInterpretation: While it's Max who learns most of the lessons in this story, there are also some that apply to Max's family, especially his mother and sister.
** A child with emotional problems ''needs'' to be treated seriously and with compassion, and despite your needs as parent, ''they'' have to come first. Indeed, much of Max's unruly behaviour in the start of the film is clearly a result of loneliness, and vulnerability.
** As an older sibling, you have a responsibility to take care of your younger siblings, even if they're annoying. Neglecting them will only lead to emotional issues later in life. Claire not taking a quick moment to make sure Max was okay (after her friends destroyed his snow fort) is largely what leads to his outburst later on.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Flame Bait and requires a source.


* ValuesDissonance: Some have interpreted the film as being pro-imperialist, seeing as the white boy Max goes to a land of monsters and immediately becomes their king. Since the book was released in 1963, it's hard to fault it for this, though.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* UnfortunateImplications: Some have interpreted the film as being pro-imperialist, seeing as the white boy Max goes to a land of monsters and immediately becomes their king. Since the book was released in 1963, it's hard to fault it for this, though.

to:

* UnfortunateImplications: ValuesDissonance: Some have interpreted the film as being pro-imperialist, seeing as the white boy Max goes to a land of monsters and immediately becomes their king. Since the book was released in 1963, it's hard to fault it for this, though.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesDissonance: Some have interpreted the film as being pro-imperialist, seeing as the white boy Max goes to a land of monsters and immediately becomes their king. Since the book was released in 1963, it's hard to fault it for this, though.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: UnfortunateImplications: Some have interpreted the film as being pro-imperialist, seeing as the white boy Max goes to a land of monsters and immediately becomes their king. Since the book was released in 1963, it's hard to fault it for this, though.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AudienceAlienatingPremise: This was the main reason that Creator/SpikeJonze's film adaptation turned out to be a BoxOfficeBomb, where its global take matched its budget (meaning the studio saw about half of what they spent on it, marketing included). Understandably, not everyone was wowed by the premise "The director of ''Film/{{Adaptation}}'' and ''Film/BeingJohnMalkovich'' tries to turn a beloved children's book into a depressing, [[BlackComedy darkly humorous]] fable about growing up...for adults." Lots of parents didn't want to take their children to see it, thinking that it was too adult; lots of teenagers and adults just didn't want to see it, thinking that it was for children.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AngstWhatAngst: Douglas doesn't see as a big deal that [[spoiler:Carol ripped his arm]], in fact, he reacts more with annoyance than with pain.

to:

* AngstWhatAngst: Douglas doesn't see as a big deal that [[spoiler:Carol ripped his arm]], arm off]], in fact, he reacts more with annoyance like he just spilled his cereal than with pain.what actually happened.

Added: 200

Changed: 1410

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Either the monsters are [[ImaginaryFriend Imaginary Friends]] of Max, or representations of his emotions and the people he lives with. Max himself can also be seen as a child with a personality disorder.
** Near the end, does Carol really want to eat Max, or was it just an emotional outburst that wasn’t a serious threat? Carol doesn’t even seem sure, as shown when K.W. calls him out on trying to eat Max. He claims that he “just said it” and wouldn’t actually do it, but it’s unclear if this is Carol in denial of his lack of control, or him being honest and that he didn’t mean what he said.
* AngstWhatAngst: Douglas doesn't see as a big deal that [[spoiler: Carol ripped his arm]], in fact, he reacts more with annoyance than with pain.
-->'''Douglas:'''[[spoiler:That was my favorite arm]]!

to:

----
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
**
Either the monsters are [[ImaginaryFriend Imaginary Friends]] of Max, or representations of his emotions and the people he lives with. Max himself can also be seen as a child with [[AmbiguousDisorder a personality disorder.
disorder]].
** Near the end, does Carol really want to eat Max, or was it just an emotional outburst that wasn’t wasn't a serious threat? Carol doesn’t doesn't even seem sure, as shown when K.K. W. calls him out on trying to eat Max. He claims that he “just "just said it” it" and wouldn’t wouldn't actually do it, but it’s it's unclear if this is Carol in denial of his lack of control, or him being honest and that he didn’t didn't mean what he said.
* AngstWhatAngst: Douglas doesn't see as a big deal that [[spoiler: Carol [[spoiler:Carol ripped his arm]], in fact, he reacts more with annoyance than with pain.
-->'''Douglas:'''[[spoiler:That -->'''Douglas:''' [[spoiler:That was my favorite arm]]!arm!]]



* NightmareFuel: Carol [[spoiler: ripping off Douglas's arm who starts ''bleeding sand''.]]

to:

* NightmareFuel: Carol [[spoiler: ripping [[spoiler:ripping off Douglas's arm who starts ''bleeding sand''.]] sand'']].



* UglyCute

to:

* UglyCuteUglyCute: The monsters themselves capture this aesthetic from the book.



* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The Wild Thing suits. The combination of CGI and animatronics is ''seamless.''

to:

* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The Wild Thing suits. The combination of CGI and animatronics is ''seamless.''''seamless''.



** Then again, Maurice Sendak has gone on record to state that the film is absolutely fine for kids "and anyone who doesn't like can go right to hell." [[ApprovalOfGod So... there's that]]. Although, to be fair, the original ''was'' meant as a children's story, and Sendak has gotten more than his fair share of this trope, to the point that some teachers wanted to '''ban''' them.

to:

** Then again, Maurice Sendak has gone on record to state that the film is absolutely fine for kids "and anyone who doesn't like can go right to hell." [[ApprovalOfGod So... there's that]]. that.]] Although, to be fair, the original ''was'' meant as a children's story, and Sendak has gotten more than his fair share of this trope, to the point that some teachers wanted to '''ban''' them.



Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Especially for younger viewers, the scene where Max has to crawl into K.W’s giant maw and hide in her stomach is absolutely traumatizing.

Added: 200

Changed: 20

Removed: 72

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AngstWhatAngst: Douglas doesn't see as a big deal that [[spoiler: Carol ripped his arm]], in fact, he reacts more with annoyance than with pain.
-->'''Douglas:'''[[spoiler:That was my favorite arm]]!



** Like Max, Carol hasn't learned to live with change and genuinely wants good things but his tantrums aren't helping matters and, from what's implied, said tantrums (and him being kind of a bully) are the reason as to why [=KW=] spends less time around the other wild things. To top this off, at the end, [[spoiler: he doesn't even get to make amends]]
%%* {{Narm}}: Hearing [[Series/TheSopranos Tony Soprano]] voicing Carol.

to:

** Like Max, Carol hasn't learned to live with change and genuinely wants good things but his tantrums aren't helping matters and, from what's implied, said tantrums (and him being kind of a bully) are the reason as to why [=KW=] spends less time around the other wild things. To top this off, at the end, [[spoiler: he doesn't even get to make amends]]
%%* {{Narm}}: Hearing [[Series/TheSopranos Tony Soprano]] voicing Carol.
amends]].



** Potentially lessened by the fact that none of the characters (including Douglas himself) react in a way that implies that Douglas is in pain and, if anything, he reacts more with annoyance. However, this could go the other way, and the disproportionate reaction might make it seem even *more* unsettling.

to:

** Potentially lessened by the fact that none of the characters (including Douglas himself) react in a way that implies that Douglas is in pain and, if anything, [[AngstWhatAngst he reacts more with annoyance.annoyance]]. However, this could go the other way, and the disproportionate reaction might make it seem even *more* unsettling.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Near the end, does Carol really want to eat Max, or was it just an emotional outburst that wasn’t a serious threat. Carol doesn’t even seem sure, as shown when K.W. calls him out on trying to eat Max. He claims that he “just said it” and wouldn’t actually do it, but it’s unclear if this is Carol in denial of his lack of control, or him being honest and that he didn’t mean what he said.

to:

** Near the end, does Carol really want to eat Max, or was it just an emotional outburst that wasn’t a serious threat. threat? Carol doesn’t even seem sure, as shown when K.W. calls him out on trying to eat Max. He claims that he “just said it” and wouldn’t actually do it, but it’s unclear if this is Carol in denial of his lack of control, or him being honest and that he didn’t mean what he said.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Near the end, does Carol really want to eat Max, or was it just an emotional outburst that wasn’t a serious threat. Carol doesn’t even seem sure, as shown when K.W. calls him out on trying to eat Max. He claims that he “just said it” and wouldn’t actually do it, but it’s unclear if this is Carol in denial of his lack of control, or him being honest and that he didn’t mean what he said.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Zero Context Example


* {{Narm}}: Hearing [[Series/TheSopranos Tony Soprano]] voicing Carol.

to:

* %%* {{Narm}}: Hearing [[Series/TheSopranos Tony Soprano]] voicing Carol.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CreepyCute: The Wild Things fall into this. Their eyes are big and eerie, they loom as if about to attack, and they have sharp claws and fangs. But they're still overtly lovable looking.

to:

* CreepyCute: The Wild Things fall into this.this, and also UglyCute. Their eyes are big and eerie, they loom as if about to attack, and they have sharp claws and fangs. But they're still overtly lovable looking.

Top