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* TheWoobie: Poor Jennifer. One of the few people who remained somewhat good and caring in the industry over the years, but she's just reduced to a sex object by people who only focus on her looks. She's based off Carole Landis, whose story was even sadder.

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Poor Jennifer. One of the few people who remained somewhat good and caring in the industry over the years, but she's just reduced to a sex object by people who only focus on her looks. She's based off Carole Landis, whose story was even sadder.sadder.
** Miriam as well. She raised her kid brother single-handedly and was able to make him a success all the while worrying for years if the debilitating disease his father had will affect him. It sadly did with a vengeance and would ultimately destroy his, hers, and Jennifer's lives.

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* OnceOriginalNowOverdone: The book was considered quite scandalous and risque at the time, but over the years as more works have gone further on HorribleHollywood, it's hard to believe what made it so shocking and looks like stereotypical ClicheStorm of show business to some. It's been called the ''Literature/FiftyShadesOfGrey'' of its day.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The book was considered quite scandalous and risque at the time, but over the years as more works have gone further on HorribleHollywood, it's hard to believe what made it so shocking and looks like stereotypical ClicheStorm of show business to some. It's been called the ''Literature/FiftyShadesOfGrey'' of its day.

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* HamAndCheese: Susan Hayward was the only one in the cast who'd worked with Mark Robson before, and thus understood it when he wanted everything Helen Lawson said to be delivered "like a sledgehammer".



** "I'll Plant My Own Tree" is a weirdly written song with strange lyrics, that Judy Garland herself thought was ridiculous. Its staging in the film is especially bizarre, with it supposedly taking place during a highbrow Broadway show, and yet Helen is performing it amid a bunch of psychedelic glass shapes on stage.



* NarmCharm: Some fans think that Patty Duke's extremely big performance as Neely works for the character, because she is meant to be an over-the-top person who spends most of her screen time drunk or on drugs.



** While Sharon Tate was certainly beautiful enough to play a MsFanservice like Jennifer and her performance has its fans, it's been noted that her persona was far too contemporary for a character intended as a classic bombshell like Creator/MarilynMonroe or Creator/CaroleLandis and, although she was hyped up as being more looks than talent, the press at the time viewed her as transcending sex symbol status

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** While Sharon Tate was certainly beautiful enough to play a MsFanservice like Jennifer and her performance has its fans, it's been noted that her persona was far too contemporary for a character intended as a classic bombshell like Creator/MarilynMonroe or Creator/CaroleLandis and, although she was hyped up as being more looks than talent, the press at the time viewed her as transcending sex symbol statusstatus.
** Paul Burke, Tony Scotti and Alexander Davion all look so similar that it can make the men feel quite interchangeable with each other. Indeed, notable review stated that "they all must go to the same barber and tailor, and their mothers must all have been frightened by Robert Cummings. I couldn't tell them apart."



* ValuesDissonance: Nowadays, hearing the characters casually throwing around words like "fag" and "faggot" is rather unnerving and controversial, even if back then it was considered [[FairForItsDay a common insult along the lines of calling someone "stupid".]] It's even ironic considering its LGBTFanbase.

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* ValuesDissonance: Nowadays, hearing the characters casually throwing around words like "fag" and "faggot" is rather unnerving and controversial, even if back then it was considered [[FairForItsDay a common insult along the lines of calling someone "stupid".]] It's even ironic considering its LGBTFanbase. Although in the film itself it is being used to refer to Ted possibly being gay, and the majority of characters who say it ''are'' meant to be unsympathetic. Jennifer however saying it is jarring.
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* AudienceColoringAdaptation: Much like ''Literature/MommieDearest'', the camp film adaptation has led to the book being thought of as trashy and exploitative too, even though it deviated significantly from it and Jacqueline Susann disowned it.


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* FanPreferredCutContent: Many fans actually prefer the version of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SH7Q-TNpp4 "It's Impossible"]] where Patty Duke does her own singing, feeling that her voice may be less polished than the dubbed version, but still quite distinctive.


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* JustHereForGodzilla: About the only thing that's universally praised about the film is William H Daniels's cinematography, especially for highlighting the glamour of all three lead actresses.


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** While Sharon Tate was certainly beautiful enough to play a MsFanservice like Jennifer and her performance has its fans, it's been noted that her persona was far too contemporary for a character intended as a classic bombshell like Creator/MarilynMonroe or Creator/CaroleLandis and, although she was hyped up as being more looks than talent, the press at the time viewed her as transcending sex symbol status


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* VanillaProtagonist: Anne is the naïve small town girl who enters a more colourful world and experiences a larger than life set of characters like Neely, Jennifer and Helen, leading to her being viewed as the dull one. The film is partly to blame, which takes some of the edge off her character and gives her a happy ending, making her feel more generic. Barbara Parkins indeed was auditioning for Neely, and Jennifer was her second option.

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** Jennifer is also viewed entirely around how she looks, something Sharon too experienced in her career. After her death, Creator/RomanPolanski famously said that people were always talking about her beauty - but never about how good she was as an actress.

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** Jennifer is also viewed entirely around how she looks, something Sharon too experienced in her career. After her death, Creator/RomanPolanski famously said that people were always talking about her beauty - but never about how good she was as an actress. This at least has become slightly better, with increased interest in her limited filmography and appreciation for the potential she might have tapped into.


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* LGBTFanbase: The film version is known as a {{Camp}} classic and has a huge queer fan base. It is very popular for drag shows in particular.


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* QuestionableCasting:
** The casting of Patty Duke as Neely O'Hara was met with a lot of scratched heads when it was announced. Not just for her attempting to shake out of her wholesome child star image by jumping head-first into such a salacious role - but also because it called for someone who could sing and dance as well, and her previous attempt at starring in a musical (''Billie'') bombed. For reference, Barbra Streisand was the first choice. Sure enough, her singing was dubbed.
** Casting Judy Garland as Helen Lawson was also thought to be in incredibly poor taste, given her very public struggles with substance abuse and financial hardship, with the character of Neely all but stated to be based on her, and having her play the one character who doesn't struggle with addiction could be seen as exploitative. And while she had the singing talent, her proficiency in playing vulnerable good girls was thought to make her ill-suited for an AlphaBitch like Helen. It's generally assumed that her casting was mainly for publicity sake and to counteract a potential lawsuit from the actress herself.
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* AcceptableTargets:
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** Gay men, too. See ValuesDissonance below.
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* MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales: In spite of derogatory words about them being thrown around throughout the film, it still remains ''very'' popular with gay men.

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The theme song of the film by Dionne Warwick sounds rather similar to the ''Film/YouOnlyLiveTwice'' self-titled theme song by Nancy Sinatra.

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The theme song of the film by Dionne Warwick sounds rather similar to the ''Film/YouOnlyLiveTwice'' self-titled theme song by Nancy Sinatra.Music/NancySinatra.



* TheWoobie: Poor Jennifer. One of the few people who remained somewhat good and caring in the industry over the years, but she's just reduced to a sex object by people who only focus on her looks. She's based off Carole Landis, whose story was even sadder.

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* TheWoobie: Poor Jennifer. One of the few people who remained somewhat good and caring in the industry over the years, but she's just reduced to a sex object by people who only focus on her looks. She's based off Carole Landis, whose story was even sadder.sadder.
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* LesYay: In the book, Anne's narration often takes note of how amazingly beautiful Jennifer is and the two have a good time whenever they share an apartment with each other. There's even a conversation where Jennifer calls herself unlovable, prompting Anne to tell her she loves her, to which Jennifer responds by joking that the two of them would make a great lesbian couple. It helps that at the start of the book, Anne has only had bad experiences with kissing men and she despairs that there's something wrong with her.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
** Fame sucks, and Hollywood isn't fun and games; it's hard work, and full of horrible, shallow, unfaithful people.
** If someone has made no effort to be with you and everyone has warned you how flaky they are, don't let chemistry and nostalgia make you hold a torch for them for years; move on with your life, because even if they do return, it might not be everything you hoped and dreamed of.
** DrugsAreBad.

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** In the 1967 FilmOfTheBook, Jennifer North -- who [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] by overdose rather than having to undergo a mastectomy]] -- is portrayed by Sharon Tate, who would wind up dead at the hands of the [[UsefulNotes/CharlesManson Manson Family]] just two years later.
** Jennifer is also viewed entirely around how she looks, something Sharon too experienced in her career. After her death, Roman Polanski famously said that people were always talking about her beauty - but never about how good she was as an actress.

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** In the 1967 FilmOfTheBook, Jennifer North -- who [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] by overdose rather than having to undergo a mastectomy]] -- is portrayed by Sharon Tate, Creator/SharonTate, who would wind up dead at the hands of the [[UsefulNotes/CharlesManson Manson Family]] just two years later.
** Jennifer is also viewed entirely around how she looks, something Sharon too experienced in her career. After her death, Roman Polanski Creator/RomanPolanski famously said that people were always talking about her beauty - but never about how good she was as an actress.actress.
** Jennifer discovers she has malignant breast cancer. In reality, Jacqueline Susann would succumb to cancer in 1974.



* HilariousInHindsight: Sharon Tate plays someone in a relationship with a Dean Martin {{Expy}}. The next year, she'd star alongside the man himself in ''Film/TheWreckingCrew''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Sharon Tate plays someone in a relationship with a Dean Martin Creator/DeanMartin {{Expy}}. The next year, she'd star alongside the man himself in ''Film/TheWreckingCrew''.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Sharon Tate plays someone in a relationship with a Dean Martin {{Expy}}. The next year, she'd star alongside the man himself in ''Film/TheWreckingCrew''.


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* SoBadItWasBetter: The book received a miniseries adaptation in the 80s, which attempted more pathos and less {{Camp}}, and of course was ruled to be less trashy and therefore less memorable than the film version.
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More accurate.


* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The book was considered quite scandalous and risque at the time, but over the years as more works have gone further on HorribleHollywood, it's hard to believe what made it so shocking and looks like stereotypical TropeOverdose of show business to some. It's been called the ''Literature/FiftyShadesOfGrey'' of its day.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The book was considered quite scandalous and risque at the time, but over the years as more works have gone further on HorribleHollywood, it's hard to believe what made it so shocking and looks like stereotypical TropeOverdose ClicheStorm of show business to some. It's been called the ''Literature/FiftyShadesOfGrey'' of its day.

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* DontShootTheMessage: No one's about to disagree with the rampant abuse of performers in Hollywood, especially in the Golden Age. But maybe a ClicheStorm of HorribleHollywood tropes with ridiculous overacting and writing akin to the trashiest SoapOpera isn't the best way to get that message across.
* FansPreferTheNewHer: Helen Lawson is humiliated when Neely rips off a wig and exposes her grey hair. Except the actual wig was an unflattering tightly curled 50s 'do and the grey hair just makes her look like a SilverFox.



* JerkassWoobie: Neely becomes an even bigger bitch as the story goes on, not to mention her drug and alcohol abuse makes working with her a nightmare. But from her very first introduction, she's being treated like dirt by Helen and is just as big a victim of the industry as the others.



** Sharon Tate imbues Jennifer with such sincere emotion and vulnerability that she's quite TheWoobie.

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** Sharon Tate imbues Jennifer with such sincere emotion and vulnerability that she's quite TheWoobie. It speaks volumes of her talent that she's able to play talentless so well.



* ValuesResonance: The book and film's focus on the abuse of women in the entertainment industry, and the struggles that come with being a performer are all still quite relevant today.

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* ValuesResonance: The book and film's focus on the abuse of women in the entertainment industry, and the struggles that come with being a performer are all still quite relevant today.today.
* TheWoobie: Poor Jennifer. One of the few people who remained somewhat good and caring in the industry over the years, but she's just reduced to a sex object by people who only focus on her looks. She's based off Carole Landis, whose story was even sadder.

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** In the 1967 FilmOfTheBook, Jennifer North -- who [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] by overdose rather than undergo a mastectomy]] -- is portrayed by Sharon Tate, who would wind up dead at the hands of the [[UsefulNotes/CharlesManson Manson Family]] just two years later.

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** In the 1967 FilmOfTheBook, Jennifer North -- who [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] by overdose rather than having to undergo a mastectomy]] -- is portrayed by Sharon Tate, who would wind up dead at the hands of the [[UsefulNotes/CharlesManson Manson Family]] just two years later.



* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Fame sucks, and Hollywood isn't fun and games; it's hard work, and full of horrible, shallow, unfaithful people.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
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Fame sucks, and Hollywood isn't fun and games; it's hard work, and full of horrible, shallow, unfaithful people.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The book was considered quite scandalous and risque at the time, but over the years as more works have gone further on HorribleHollywood, it's hard to believe what made it so shocking. It's been called the ''Literature/FiftyShadesOfGrey'' of its day.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The book was considered quite scandalous and risque at the time, but over the years as more works have gone further on HorribleHollywood, it's hard to believe what made it so shocking.shocking and looks like stereotypical TropeOverdose of show business to some. It's been called the ''Literature/FiftyShadesOfGrey'' of its day.
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** In the book, after [[spoiler:Neely's bungled self-harm attempt, she has a long, overdramatic soliloquy wondering if there's a heaven and if Jennifer is an angel.]]


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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Fame sucks, and Hollywood isn't fun and games; it's hard work, and full of horrible, shallow, unfaithful people.
** If someone has made no effort to be with you and everyone has warned you how flaky they are, don't let chemistry and nostalgia make you hold a torch for them for years; move on with your life, because even if they do return, it might not be everything you hoped and dreamed of.
** DrugsAreBad.

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* AcceptableTargets: Fat women.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In the 1967 FilmOfTheBook, Jennifer North -- who [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] by overdose rather than undergo a mastectomy]] -- is portrayed by Sharon Tate, who would wind up dead at the hands of the [[UsefulNotes/CharlesManson Manson Family]] just two years later.

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* HarsherInHindsight: CriticProof: Both the book and the film were trashed by critics, but the book became a best seller and the film was the fifth highest grossing of its year.
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In the 1967 FilmOfTheBook, Jennifer North -- who [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] by overdose rather than undergo a mastectomy]] -- is portrayed by Sharon Tate, who would wind up dead at the hands of the [[UsefulNotes/CharlesManson Manson Family]] just two years later.later.
** Jennifer is also viewed entirely around how she looks, something Sharon too experienced in her career. After her death, Roman Polanski famously said that people were always talking about her beauty - but never about how good she was as an actress.



* MemeticMutation: "Sparkle, Neely, sparkle" is the line that has really endured over time.
* {{Narm}}:
** A good portion of the hammy melodramatic acting brings this out halfway through.
** The film's compression of the timeline results in this. The book covered twenty years, but the film is clearly much shorter (Neely is said to be 26 when she's fired from a film). It makes it even funnier to think that all this life changing drama is unfolding in such a short time frame.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The book was considered quite scandalous and risque at the time, but over the years as more works have gone further on HorribleHollywood, it's hard to believe what made it so shocking. It's been called the ''Literature/FiftyShadesOfGrey'' of its day.



* ValuesDissonance: Nowadays, hearing the characters casually throwing around words like "fag" and "faggot" is rather unnerving and controversial, even if back then it was considered [[FairForItsDay a common insult along the lines of calling someone "stupid".]] It's even ironic considering its LGBTFanbase.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously:
** Sharon Tate imbues Jennifer with such sincere emotion and vulnerability that she's quite TheWoobie.
** Lee Grant, who played Miriam, also took the film incredibly seriously at the time. The director commended her on one scene where she had to get emotional. It was filmed on a Friday and they had to finish it on Monday, and she brought the same emotion as she had before.
* ValuesDissonance: Nowadays, hearing the characters casually throwing around words like "fag" and "faggot" is rather unnerving and controversial, even if back then it was considered [[FairForItsDay a common insult along the lines of calling someone "stupid".]] It's even ironic considering its LGBTFanbase.LGBTFanbase.
* ValuesResonance: The book and film's focus on the abuse of women in the entertainment industry, and the struggles that come with being a performer are all still quite relevant today.
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* SoBadItsGood: The film's hammy acting and heavy-handed melodrama makes for plenty of unintentional laughs.

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* SoBadItsGood: The film's hammy acting and heavy-handed melodrama makes make for plenty of unintentional laughs.

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* SoBadItsGood: The film's hammy acting and heavy-handed melodrama makes for plenty of unintentional laughs.



* ValuesDissonance: Nowadays, hearing the characters casually throwing around words like "fag" and "faggot" is rather unnerving and controversial, even if back then it was considered [[FairForItsDay a common insult along the lines of calling someone "stupid".]]

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* ValuesDissonance: Nowadays, hearing the characters casually throwing around words like "fag" and "faggot" is rather unnerving and controversial, even if back then it was considered [[FairForItsDay a common insult along the lines of calling someone "stupid".]]]] It's even ironic considering its LGBTFanbase.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The theme song of the film by Dionne Warwick sounds rather similar to the ''Film/YouOnlyLiveTwice'' self-titled theme song by Nancy Sinatra.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/RichardDreyfuss makes his film debut as a stagehand.
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** Also, seeing Neely O'Hara's stay in the sanitarium and her subsequent breakdown is very difficult to watch considering Patty Duke's public struggles with mental illness and bipolar disorder.

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** Also, seeing Neely O'Hara's stay in the sanitarium and her subsequent breakdown is very difficult to watch considering Patty Duke's public struggles with mental illness and bipolar disorder. Additionally, there is also her drug usage and alcoholism that she struggled with throughout the movie and her likely DownerEnding at the end, which was inspired by Creator/JudyGarland and her own struggles, who died of a drug overdose two years after the movie premiered.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In the 1967 FilmOfTheBook, Jennifer North -- who [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] by overdose rather than undergo a mastectomy]] -- is portrayed by Sharon Tate, who would wind up dead at the hands of the [[UsefulNotes/CharlesManson Manson Family]] just two years later.

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** Gay men, too. See ValuesDissonance below.
* HarsherInHindsight: In the 1967 FilmOfTheBook, Jennifer North -- who [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] by overdose rather than undergo a mastectomy]] -- is portrayed by Sharon Tate, who would wind up dead at the hands of the [[UsefulNotes/CharlesManson Manson Family]] just two years later.later.
** Also, seeing Neely O'Hara's stay in the sanitarium and her subsequent breakdown is very difficult to watch considering Patty Duke's public struggles with mental illness and bipolar disorder.
* ValuesDissonance: Nowadays, hearing the characters casually throwing around words like "fag" and "faggot" is rather unnerving and controversial, even if back then it was considered [[FairForItsDay a common insult along the lines of calling someone "stupid".]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: In the 1967 FilmOfTheBook, Jennifer North -- who [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] by overdose rather than undergo a mastectomy]] -- is portrayed by Sharon Tate, who would wind up dead at the hands of the [[CharlesManson Manson family]] just two years later.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In the 1967 FilmOfTheBook, Jennifer North -- who [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] by overdose rather than undergo a mastectomy]] -- is portrayed by Sharon Tate, who would wind up dead at the hands of the [[CharlesManson [[UsefulNotes/CharlesManson Manson family]] Family]] just two years later.
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* AcceptableTargets: Fat women.

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* AcceptableTargets: Fat women.women.
* HarsherInHindsight: In the 1967 FilmOfTheBook, Jennifer North -- who [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] by overdose rather than undergo a mastectomy]] -- is portrayed by Sharon Tate, who would wind up dead at the hands of the [[CharlesManson Manson family]] just two years later.
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