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** ''Several'' times during the series, characters in Peter's social circle (including several who were usually always civilians) somehow acquired superpowers through a variety of means... and almost nothing was ever done with ''any'' of them (even if the characters themselves remained relevant in other ways):
*** It turned out that Harry Osborn has also been tainted with the Oz fomula in the same accident that had made Norman the Green Goblin, turning him into the Hobgoblin. Once the Ultimate Hobgoblin arc ended with Harry being taken down and imprisoned by S.H.I.E.L.D for treatment, Harry disappeared from the series altogether up until the Death of a Goblin arc, where [[spoiler:it turned out S.H.I.E.L.D hadn't managed to cure him of the Oz formula after all, letting Harry transform again to fight at Peter's side in a climactic final battle against Norman... who beat him to death. And unlike Norman himself, he never came back.]]
*** After Gwen Stacy was [[spoiler:killed by Carnage]], she returned during the Clone Saga [[spoiler:''as'' Carnage, transforming into her berserk monster form when she got too stressed]]. Taken into custody by S.H.I.E.L.D (again), she didn't show up again until the War of the Symbiotes arc where [[spoiler:once again she transformed into Carnage to fight against Eddie Brock's Venom, only for Eddie to absorb the Carnage symbiote and fuse with it to make a super-symbiote, leaving only a completely human Gwen Stacy behind.]] At least she didn't die [[spoiler:like Harry did.]]
*** Also during the Clone Saga, MJ [[spoiler:got infused with Oz by the deformed Peter clone that most people assume was Ultimate Kaine, giving her the ability to turn into a large, red, fur-covered monster that was revealed to be the Ultimate version of Demogoblin]]. She was almost immediately [[spoiler:cured at the end of the arc by the Fantatic Four]] and, despite the odd tease (such as her [[spoiler:holding her trembling hand as it looked like her nails were starting to extend into claws]] while watching Peter talk with Kitty) nothing was ever done with this again, despite Carol Danvers later telling Peter that there ''is'' no permanent cure for [[spoiler:Oz contamination]].
*** Finally, [[spoiler:Liz Allen]] turned out to be a flame-wielding mutant, and the Ultimate version of [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManAndHisAmazingFriends Firestar]] during the [[MythologyGag And His Amazing Friends]] arc. While this was never undone or otherwise ignored, [[spoiler:Liz]] immediately left the series and moved over to ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'' instead, never showing up in ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' again.

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** ''Several'' times during the series, characters in Peter's social circle (including several who were usually always civilians) somehow acquired superpowers through a variety of means... and almost nothing was ever done with ''any'' of them (even if the characters themselves remained relevant in other ways):
*** It turned out that Harry Osborn has also been tainted with the Oz fomula in the same accident that had made Norman the Green Goblin, turning him into the Hobgoblin. Once the Ultimate Hobgoblin arc ended with Harry being taken down and imprisoned by S.H.I.E.L.D for treatment, Harry disappeared from the series altogether up until the Death of a Goblin arc, where [[spoiler:it turned out S.H.I.E.L.D hadn't managed to cure him of the Oz formula after all, letting Harry transform again to fight at Peter's side in a climactic final battle against Norman... who beat him to death. And unlike Norman himself, he never came back.]]
*** After Gwen Stacy was [[spoiler:killed by Carnage]], she returned during the Clone Saga [[spoiler:''as'' Carnage, transforming into her berserk monster form when she got too stressed]]. Taken into custody by S.H.I.E.L.D (again), she didn't show up again until the War of the Symbiotes arc where [[spoiler:once again she transformed into Carnage to fight against Eddie Brock's Venom, only for Eddie to absorb the Carnage symbiote and fuse with it to make a super-symbiote, leaving only a completely human Gwen Stacy behind.]] At least she didn't die [[spoiler:like Harry did.]]
*** Also during the Clone Saga, MJ [[spoiler:got infused with Oz by the deformed Peter clone that most people assume was Ultimate Kaine, giving her the ability to turn into a large, red, fur-covered monster that was revealed to be the Ultimate version of Demogoblin]]. She was almost immediately [[spoiler:cured at the end of the arc by the Fantatic Four]] and, despite the odd tease (such as her [[spoiler:holding her trembling hand as it looked like her nails were starting to extend into claws]] while watching Peter talk with Kitty) nothing was ever done with this again, despite Carol Danvers later telling Peter that there ''is'' no permanent cure for [[spoiler:Oz contamination]].
*** Finally, [[spoiler:Liz Allen]] turned out to be a flame-wielding mutant, and the Ultimate version of [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManAndHisAmazingFriends Firestar]] during the [[MythologyGag And His Amazing Friends]] arc. While this was never undone or otherwise ignored, [[spoiler:Liz]] immediately left the series and moved over to ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'' instead, never showing up in ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' again.

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* GrowingTheBeard:
** For ''Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man'' it is issue 9 and 10.
** For ''Ultimate Comics: All-New Spider-man'' it is issue 12.

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%% * GrowingTheBeard:
%% ** For ''Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man'' it is issue 9 and 10.
%% ** For ''Ultimate Comics: All-New Spider-man'' it is issue 12.


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: ''Several'' times during the series, characters in Peter's social circle (including several who were usually always civilians) somehow acquired superpowers through a variety of means... and almost nothing was ever done with ''any'' of them (even if the characters themselves remained relevant in other ways):
** It turned out that Harry Osborn has also been tainted with the Oz fomula in the same accident that had made Norman the Green Goblin, turning him into the Hobgoblin. Once the Ultimate Hobgoblin arc ended with Harry being taken down and imprisoned by S.H.I.E.L.D for treatment, Harry disappeared from the series altogether up until the Death of a Goblin arc, where [[spoiler:it turned out S.H.I.E.L.D hadn't managed to cure him of the Oz formula after all, letting Harry transform again to fight at Peter's side in a climactic final battle against Norman... who beat him to death. And unlike Norman himself, he never came back.]]
** After Gwen Stacy was [[spoiler:killed by Carnage]], she returned during the Clone Saga [[spoiler:''as'' Carnage, transforming into her berserk monster form when she got too stressed]]. Taken into custody by S.H.I.E.L.D (again), she didn't show up again until the War of the Symbiotes arc where [[spoiler:once again she transformed into Carnage to fight against Eddie Brock's Venom, only for Eddie to absorb the Carnage symbiote and fuse with it to make a super-symbiote, leaving only a completely human Gwen Stacy behind.]] At least she didn't die [[spoiler:like Harry did.]]
** Also during the Clone Saga, MJ [[spoiler:got infused with Oz by the deformed Peter clone that most people assume was Ultimate Kaine, giving her the ability to turn into a large, red, fur-covered monster that was revealed to be the Ultimate version of Demogoblin]]. She was almost immediately [[spoiler:cured at the end of the arc by the Fantatic Four]] and, despite the odd tease (such as her [[spoiler:holding her trembling hand as it looked like her nails were starting to extend into claws]] while watching Peter talk with Kitty) nothing was ever done with this again, despite Carol Danvers later telling Peter that there ''is'' no permanent cure for [[spoiler:Oz contamination]].
** Finally, [[spoiler:Liz Allen]] turned out to be a flame-wielding mutant, and the Ultimate version of [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManAndHisAmazingFriends Firestar]] during the [[MythologyGag And His Amazing Friends]] arc. While this was never undone or otherwise ignored, [[spoiler:Liz]] immediately left the series and moved over to ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'' instead, never showing up in ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' again.


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: ''Several'' times during the series, characters in Peter's social circle (including several who were usually always civilians) somehow acquired superpowers through a variety of means... and almost nothing was ever done with ''any'' of them (even if the characters themselves remained relevant in other ways):
** It turned out that Harry Osborn has also been tainted with the Oz fomula in the same accident that had made Norman the Green Goblin, turning him into the Hobgoblin. Once the Ultimate Hobgoblin arc ended with Harry being taken down and imprisoned by S.H.I.E.L.D for treatment, Harry disappeared from the series altogether up until the Death of a Goblin arc, where [[spoiler:it turned out S.H.I.E.L.D hadn't managed to cure him of the Oz formula after all, letting Harry transform again to fight at Peter's side in a climactic final battle against Norman... who beat him to death. And unlike Norman himself, he never came back.]]
** After Gwen Stacy was [[spoiler:killed by Carnage]], she returned during the Clone Saga [[spoiler:''as'' Carnage, transforming into her berserk monster form when she got too stressed]]. Taken into custody by S.H.I.E.L.D (again), she didn't show up again until the War of the Symbiotes arc where [[spoiler:once again she transformed into Carnage to fight against Eddie Brock's Venom, only for Eddie to absorb the Carnage symbiote and fuse with it to make a super-symbiote, leaving only a completely human Gwen Stacy behind.]] At least she didn't die [[spoiler:like Harry did.]]
** Also during the Clone Saga, MJ [[spoiler:got infused with Oz by the deformed Peter clone that most people assume was Ultimate Kaine, giving her the ability to turn into a large, red, fur-covered monster that was revealed to be the Ultimate version of Demogoblin]]. She was almost immediately [[spoiler:cured at the end of the arc by the Fantatic Four]] and, despite the odd tease (such as her [[spoiler:holding her trembling hand as it looked like her nails were starting to extend into claws]] while watching Peter talk with Kitty) nothing was ever done with this again, despite Carol Danvers later telling Peter that there ''is'' no permanent cure for [[spoiler:Oz contamination]].
** Finally, [[spoiler:Liz Allen]] turned out to be a flame-wielding mutant, and the Ultimate version of [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManAndHisAmazingFriends Firestar]] during the [[MythologyGag And His Amazing Friends]] arc. While this was never undone or otherwise ignored, [[spoiler:Liz]] immediately left the series and moved over to ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'' instead, never showing up in ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' again.



** The concept of Peter as essentially TheLeader of his RagtagBunchOfMisfits (such as Johnny Storm, Iceman, Kitty Pryde, Jessica Drew) set up in Vol. 2 in the Post-Ultimatum era was a pretty cool idea, with many seeing it as a chance for Spider-Man to come into his own and become a Marvel-wide superhero in the manner that he has never been able to do in the main continuity. Unfortnately, Bendis and others keeps Peter in SmallStepsHero mode and the concept breaks down in the "Death of Spider-Man" arc with the band breaking up and going homeless in the wake of Peter's death.

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** The concept of Peter as essentially TheLeader of his RagtagBunchOfMisfits (such as Johnny Storm, Iceman, Kitty Pryde, Jessica Drew) set up in Vol. 2 in the Post-Ultimatum era was a pretty cool idea, with many seeing it as a chance for Spider-Man to come into his own and become a Marvel-wide superhero in the manner that he has never been able to do in the main continuity. Unfortnately, Unfortunately, Bendis and others keeps Peter in SmallStepsHero mode and the concept breaks down in the "Death of Spider-Man" arc with the band breaking up and going homeless in the wake of Peter's death.


* CounterpartComparison: The Ultimate Venom arc came at nearly the same time as ''ComicBook/BatmanHush'' and it has numerous similarities with it. Namely the plot revolves around a mystery with the hero's childhood friend ([[RememberTheNewGuy who wasn't mentioned before]]) who initially seems like a nice guy [[spoiler:but turns out to have been bad news all this while. Ultimate Venom's origin is also tied to the parents of both characters and similar to Hush, Ultimate Eddie Brock largely resents and dislikes Peter out of envy at his life and his more positive relationship with the memories of parents and relatives whereas he's had a comparatively rougher time of it]].


* OlderThanTheyThink: This was actually the second attempt by Marvel to reboot Spider-Man after the DorkAge of the clone saga. The first one was ''ComicBook/SpiderManChapterOne'', but it was poorly received and was nowhere near the success of Ultimate Spider-Man, mostly because it was a remake of the Lee-Ditko origins with the same plots and designs which many saw as an attempt [[OrwellianRetcon to replace the originals]] whereas Ultimate Spider-Man really was a SettingUpdate and retelling with new takes on the classic characters. Many of the plot ideas and concepts from ''Chapter One'' were reused such as Norman Osborn and Green Goblin being the GreaterScopeVillain connected to all the villains.
* ShipToShipCombat: Who made a better girlfriend for Ultimate Peter; Mary Jane, Gwen Stacy, or Kitty Pryde. Have a lot of fun with that conversation.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: OlderThanTheyThink:
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This was actually the second attempt by Marvel to reboot Spider-Man after the DorkAge of the clone saga. ComicBook/TheCloneSaga. The first one was ''ComicBook/SpiderManChapterOne'', ''ComicBook/SpiderManChapterOne'' (in 1998-1999, about a year before this one) but it was poorly received and was nowhere near the success of Ultimate Spider-Man, mostly because it was a remake of the Lee-Ditko origins ComicBook/LeeDitkoSpiderMan with the same plots and designs which many saw as an attempt [[OrwellianRetcon to replace the originals]] imperishable classics]] whereas Ultimate Spider-Man really was a SettingUpdate and retelling with new takes on the classic characters. Many of the plot ideas and concepts from ''Chapter One'' were reused however such as Norman Osborn and Green Goblin being the GreaterScopeVillain connected to all the villains.
** On the flip-side, something many younger fans and others also make a mistake, but since Ultimate Spider-Man was new and on the shelves when Raimi's ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' came out, many have claimed, owing to similarities that it was some kind of movie-inspired tie-in. In fact the comics were published in 2000 (and of course given the time it takes to write and draw a comic, and several issues worth, it was in production in 1999), whereas the first movie came out in 2002, and Bendis' comics inspired the film for some details (and Bendis himself was invited to make contributions and suggestions though he admits little of it was accepted).
* ShipToShipCombat: Who made a better girlfriend for Ultimate Peter; Mary Jane, Gwen Stacy, or Kitty Pryde. Have a lot of fun with that conversation.conversation, though the comics make it clear that it was always Peter and MJ from the start.

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* SignatureScene: Quite a bit:
** As always, [[spoiler:Uncle Ben's death]].
** Spider-Man's first confrontation and victory over Kingpin particularly when he figures out how to bust him, and when he claims victory by making fat jokes at him by literally reading it off a list.
** Issue 13, "Confessions", where Peter tells MJ his identity and they immediately become a couple is considered the single best issue of the entire run.
** The Ultimate Clone Saga, especially when Spider-Woman unmasks to reveal Jessica Drew as Peter's female clone making it awkward for both of them.
** In the final issues of the "Ultimatum" tie in, where Manhattan has flooded many multi-storey buildings and entire high-windowed offices become aquariums, the scene where Jonah gazes out the window to see Spider-Man dive in underwater and save people is quite memorable.
** The Death of Spider-Man of course has many scenes, but special ones include Peter TakingTheBullet for Captain America with Steve cradling him and insisting that he will be "the best one of us all" and [[spoiler:the ShoutOut to ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'' where MJ holds Peter's dead body]].
** From "Ultimate Fallout", Miles Morales' grand debut, complete with many people saying his outfit is "in bad taste" and then unmasking to reveal his face, confirming that yes a new star is born.


* ArcFatigue: Many felt that the ''Double Trouble'' Doc Ock/Kraven the Hunter arc ran too long.
** To some, mainly newer readers, this can be applied to the entire series: Creator/BrianBendis's SignatureStyle of decompressed storytelling, while new and groundbreaking when the series debuted (to the point of being copied and imitated by just about everyone in the following decade), has since come under greater scrutiny from the comic reading public, if not [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny fallen out of favor completely]]. As such, many of the storylines can come off as slow or padded by modern standards.

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* ArcFatigue: Many felt that the ''Double Trouble'' Doc Ock/Kraven the Hunter arc ran too long.
** To some, mainly
long. For newer readers, this can be applied to the entire series: Creator/BrianBendis's SignatureStyle of decompressed storytelling, while new and groundbreaking when the series debuted (to the point of being copied and imitated by just about everyone in the following decade), has since come under greater scrutiny from the comic reading public, if not [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny fallen out of favor completely]]. As such, many of the storylines can come off as slow or padded by modern standards.



* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Averted, considering the one involved is ''the title character''.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Averted, considering the one involved is ''the title character''. Though eventually [[spoiler:both Gwen Stacy and Peter came BackFromTheDead anyway]].



* NoYay: Bendis played up the LikeBrotherAndSister angle with Peter and Gwen so much that this was the reaction when they finally did hook up.

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* NoYay: Bendis played up the LikeBrotherAndSister angle with Peter and Gwen so much that this was the reaction when they finally did hook up.up, it was given an in-universe LampshadeHanging by MJ in bitter-hysterical-ex mode.



* ShipToShipCombat: Who made a better girlfriend for Peter; Mary Jane, Gwen Stacy, or Kitty Pryde. Have a lot of fun with that conversation.

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* ShipToShipCombat: Who made a better girlfriend for Ultimate Peter; Mary Jane, Gwen Stacy, or Kitty Pryde. Have a lot of fun with that conversation.


** The radical change to Venom in the Ultimate story was liked by some since it tied him into Spider-Man's mythos more easily than the alien-origin symbiote of 616, but the overall emphasis on Richard Parker as part of its MythArc and making Eddie Brock into Peter's childhood friend was seen as going a step too far since it dampened Peter's everyman appeal by making him the son of a genius scientist. The adaptation of this story in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'' was heavily criticized by many for this specific reason.

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** The radical change to Venom in the Ultimate story was liked by some since it tied him into Spider-Man's mythos more easily than the alien-origin symbiote of 616, but the overall emphasis on Richard Parker as part of its MythArc and making Eddie Brock into Peter's childhood friend was seen as going a step too far since it dampened Peter's everyman appeal by making him the son of a genius scientist. The adaptation of this story in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'' was heavily criticized by many for this specific reason.reason, since it overemphasized Richard Parker at the expense of Uncle Ben, who for most ''has'' to be Peter's real dad for the story to work.



** [[spoiler:Peter coming back from the dead, since nothing ever came of it, and the entire ultimate universe got blown up a few months later anyway. The idea of Peter and MJ eloping and going underground and presumably having crazy adventures on their own, has a lot of potential but now that's just gone]].
*** Although, [[spoiler:the story Spider-Men 2, reveals that this universe is alive and well again]].

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** [[spoiler:Peter coming back from the dead, since nothing ever came of it, and the entire ultimate universe got blown up a few months later anyway. The idea of Peter and MJ eloping and going underground and presumably having crazy adventures on their own, has a lot of potential but now that's just gone]].
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gone]]. Although, [[spoiler:the story Spider-Men 2, reveals that this universe is alive and well again]].again]].
** The concept of Peter as essentially TheLeader of his RagtagBunchOfMisfits (such as Johnny Storm, Iceman, Kitty Pryde, Jessica Drew) set up in Vol. 2 in the Post-Ultimatum era was a pretty cool idea, with many seeing it as a chance for Spider-Man to come into his own and become a Marvel-wide superhero in the manner that he has never been able to do in the main continuity. Unfortnately, Bendis and others keeps Peter in SmallStepsHero mode and the concept breaks down in the "Death of Spider-Man" arc with the band breaking up and going homeless in the wake of Peter's death.


* AwesomeMusic: Venom's {{Leitmotif}}. The first [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRklzkKKKq0 rendition]] is dark and primal, while the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcXD6RETN24 other version]] is downright epic and intense, to the point where it can be considered a [[BossRemix Boss Remix]] of it.

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
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Venom's {{Leitmotif}}. The first [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRklzkKKKq0 rendition]] is dark and primal, while the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcXD6RETN24 other version]] is downright epic and intense, to the point where it can be considered a [[BossRemix Boss Remix]] of it.


* BetterThanSource:
** Screen Rants made a list of "[[https://screenrant.com/why-ultimate-spider-man-better-than-amazing-marvel-comics/ 15 Reasons Ultimate Spider-Man Is Better Than Amazing Spider-Man]]"
** ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'' is usually reviled as a DorkAge and one of the lowest points of the Spider-Man franchise. On the other hand, the Ultimate Clone Saga was welcomed as one of the best stories of Ultimate Spider-Man, and introduced Jessica Drew, who became a EnsembleDarkhorse.


** Unlike the original teenage Spider-Man who was asocial and came from a FriendlessBackground, Ultimate Spider-Man has a confidant in Mary-Jane with whom he shares his secret identity, his worries, and who also serves as backup. This setup came into movies such as ''Film/SpidermanHomecoming'' where Ned Lee (based on Ultimate Ganke) serves as Peter's "guy in the chair". Mary-Jane's background as a childhood friend of Peter's who nursed a crush on him also went into Gwen Stacy in ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' and ''VideoGame/SpiderManPS4''.

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** Unlike the original teenage Earth-616 Spider-Man who from the Mainstream universe (who was asocial and came from a FriendlessBackground, FriendlessBackground during his teenage years), Ultimate Spider-Man has a confidant in Mary-Jane with whom he shares his secret identity, his worries, and who also serves as backup. This setup came into movies such as ''Film/SpidermanHomecoming'' where Ned Lee (based on Ultimate Ganke) serves as Peter's "guy in the chair". Mary-Jane's background as a childhood friend of Peter's who nursed a crush on him also went into Gwen Stacy in ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' and ''VideoGame/SpiderManPS4''.


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* BrokenBaseBetterThanSource:
** Screen Rants made a list of "[[https://screenrant.com/why-ultimate-spider-man-better-than-amazing-marvel-comics/ 15 Reasons Ultimate Spider-Man Is Better Than Amazing Spider-Man]]"
** ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'' is usually reviled as a DorkAge and one of the lowest points of the Spider-Man franchise. On the other hand, the Ultimate Clone Saga was welcomed as one of the best stories of Ultimate Spider-Man, and introduced Jessica Drew, who became a EnsembleDarkhorse.
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