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* FandomBerserkButton:
** Attempting to even ''hint'' that this show had something to do with ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' getting CutShort ([[MisBlamed it didn't]]) is a surefire way to get the entire show's fandom coming at you with butcher knives.
** Trying to say Peter is just Deadpool in a Spider suit due to the forth wall breaking is another good way to get the fandom upset with you. For one, comic!Deadpool (and later this show's very own Deadpool) treats the forth wall completely different. Both Deadpools go about simply ''shattering'' it, and treating the viewers as if they are just extra characters, being (for the most part) ''extremely'' GenreSavvy despite their respective insanity, while lampshading the bizarre-ness of their respective worlds. ([[NeverSayDie "Unalive,"]] anyone?) Spidey on the other hand does it in a way that's arguably closer to Zack Morris in ''Series/SavedByTheBell'' (but less aware and without his "time-outs" being able to change the situations he's currently in), full on narrating his adventures in a way that's clearly meant to help him calm down and show his thought process. Heck, the entire ''Ultimate Deadpool'' episode is meant to show how ''different'' the two are on more than one level despite the surface similarities. The episode also establishes that Peter, ''isn't even actually aware of the audience, that's just how his thought process works.''

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* FandomBerserkButton:
** Attempting to even ''hint'' that this show had something to do with ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' getting CutShort ([[MisBlamed it didn't]]) is a surefire way to get the entire show's fandom coming at you with butcher knives.
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FandomBerserkButton: Trying to say Peter is just Deadpool in a Spider suit due to the forth wall breaking is another good way to get the fandom upset with you. For one, comic!Deadpool (and later this show's very own Deadpool) treats the forth wall completely different. Both Deadpools go about simply ''shattering'' it, and treating the viewers as if they are just extra characters, being (for the most part) ''extremely'' GenreSavvy despite their respective insanity, while lampshading the bizarre-ness of their respective worlds. ([[NeverSayDie "Unalive,"]] anyone?) Spidey on the other hand does it in a way that's arguably closer to Zack Morris in ''Series/SavedByTheBell'' (but less aware and without his "time-outs" being able to change the situations he's currently in), full on narrating his adventures in a way that's clearly meant to help him calm down and show his thought process. Heck, the entire ''Ultimate Deadpool'' episode is meant to show how ''different'' the two are on more than one level despite the surface similarities. The episode also establishes that Peter, ''isn't even actually aware of the audience, that's just how his thought process works.''


* CriticProof: Despite the vocal hatedom the show has, it's currently heading into its fourth season. The toy line also sells ''very well'' despite the frequent complaints about how MerchandiseDriven the series is. This makes some sense however due to how immensely popular it is with its younger target audience, parents, and people who liked the light-heartedness of the first two season.
* CutShort: Notable for being the first Spider-man series in 15 years to avert this. Three seasons down the pipeline with a fourth coming. For reference the much maligned ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManUnlimited'' series only got 13 episodes, The BrokenBase MTV's ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheNewAnimatedSeries'' only got 13 episode and the well-received ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' only got slightly better off with 26 episodes [[note]] Though in this case it ended up being cut short due to legal reasons rather than ratings[[/note]]. Yet despite mixed reception, ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' has been the first Spider-Man series since ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'' to break this curse.

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* CriticProof: Despite the vocal hatedom the show has, it's currently heading into its fourth season.it managed to get four seasons. The toy line also sells ''very well'' despite the frequent complaints about how MerchandiseDriven the series is. This makes some sense however due to how immensely popular it is with its younger target audience, parents, and people who liked the light-heartedness of the first two season.
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* CutShort: Notable for Averted, with it being the first Spider-man series in 15 years to avert this. Three seasons down the pipeline with a fourth coming. For reference the The much maligned ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManUnlimited'' series only got 13 episodes, The the BrokenBase MTV's ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheNewAnimatedSeries'' only got 13 episode and the well-received ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' only got slightly better off with 26 episodes [[note]] Though episodes. [[note]]Though in this that last case it it, ended up being cut short due to legal reasons rather than ratings[[/note]]. ratings.[[/note]] Yet despite mixed reception, ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' has been the first Spider-Man series since ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'' to break this curse.



That "trust your teammates" thing becomes even more stupid, when you realize that nothing has been revealed about Spidey's teammates except their names and powers. Spidey doesn't know how they got those powers and how they got to be superheroes, he doesn't know where they live, what friends they have aside from themselves and etc, yet they know a lot about Peter: where he lives, what school he attends, who are his friends, they even know about Aunt May. How can Peter trust people who know more about him than he does about them? And yet they allow to call themselves Peter's friends.

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That "trust your teammates" thing becomes even more stupid, stupid when you realize that that, until the second season, both Peter and the audience know nothing has been revealed about Spidey's his teammates except their names and powers. Spidey doesn't know how they got those powers and how they got to be superheroes, he doesn't know where they live, what friends they have aside from themselves and etc, yet themselves, etc. Yet they know a lot ''a lot'' about Peter: where he lives, what school he attends, who are his friends, they even know about Aunt May. How can Peter trust people who know more about him than he does about them? And yet they allow they're allowed to call themselves Peter's friends.


* UnexpectedCharacter: Raise your hand of you expected [[Series/{{Jessie}} a live action Disney Channel character]] appearing in a Spider-Man episode. No? Thought so.

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Raise your hand of you expected [[Series/{{Jessie}} a live action Disney Channel character]] appearing in a Spider-Man episode. No? Thought so.so.
** [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse Agent Coulson]] is under cover as the Principal of Spidey's school.
** Well, more like "Unexpected mention of a character", but it still comes out of left field. In the [[Comicbook/GuardiansoftheGalaxy Guardians of the Galaxy]] episode, Star-Lord lists of random heroes on Earth that Korvac sees as a potential threat. Raise you hand if you knew one of the heroes he was gonna list off was '''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_Dinosaur DEVIL DINOSAUR]]'''.


* MagnificentBastard: Doctor Doom. When Spider-Man and his team attempted to capture him by attacking Latveria, [[spoiler:he sent a Doombot to fight them, and had said Doombot captured by them so he could have it infiltrating the Helicarrier and destroying it from the inside; and even after they successfully defeated the Doombot, he ''still'' gets something by analyzing their weakness in the process, thus preparing for later fights with them.]]


** Judging the entire show based on the first 2/3rds of Season 1's admittedly less than sub-par writing and characterization is bound to get similar reactions.

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* UnexpectedCharacter: Raise your hand of you expected [[Series/{{Jessie}} a live action Disney Channel character]] appearing in a Spider-Man episode. No? Thought so.


* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Nick Fury clearly is intended by the writers to be seen as a BigGood and ReasonableAuthorityFigure. Problem is, many fans see him more like a DesignatedHero ControlFreak who basically blackmailed Peter into joining SHIELD, keeps not holding his side of the bargain, leaves him very little freedom (he placed camera in his house, has an agent pose as his principal and made his teammates forcefully insert themselves in his life), and has a spectacular record of [[CreateYourOwnVillain creating his own villains]]. This wouldn't be so much a problem if these were ''aknowledged'' as flaws to make Fury a morally grey character- but the show lacks any self-awareness on the topic, and keeps portraying him as always in the right.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Nick Fury clearly is intended by the writers to be seen as a BigGood and ReasonableAuthorityFigure. Problem is, many fans see him more like a DesignatedHero ControlFreak who basically blackmailed Peter into joining SHIELD, keeps not holding his side of the bargain, leaves him very little freedom (he placed camera cameras in his house, has an agent pose as his principal and made his teammates forcefully insert themselves in his life), and has a spectacular record of [[CreateYourOwnVillain creating his own villains]]. This wouldn't be so much a problem if these were ''aknowledged'' ''acknowledged'' as flaws to make Fury a morally grey character- but the show lacks any self-awareness on the topic, and keeps portraying him as always in the right.


* WhatAnIdiot: Sadly, the main characters tend to often fall into this:

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* WhatAnIdiot: Sadly, the main characters tend to often fall into this:this. [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WhatAnIdiot/WesternAnimation More examples are provided here.]]


* NeverLiveItDown: For the show itself, both the over abundance of gags in the first two seasons and the admittedly mediocre writing that occurred for most of the first two season will forever be reason some people choose to avoid this show. Character wise Fury will never live down his DesignatedHero status he created for himself in the first season. On a meta-note the common misconception that the show ''somehow'' had something to do with the previous Spider-Man show getting cut short is a common source of bad press among the Marvel fandom as a whole.

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* NeverLiveItDown: For the show itself, both the over abundance of gags in the first two seasons and the admittedly mediocre writing that occurred for most of the first two season will forever be reason some people choose to avoid this show. Character wise Fury will never live down his DesignatedHero status he created for himself in the first season. On a meta-note meta-level, the common misconception that the show ''somehow'' had something to do with the previous Spider-Man show getting cut short is a common source of bad press among the Marvel fandom as a whole.


** The concept of Mary Jane getting powers and donning a spider costume is nothing new as well since in Marvel's multiverse there is an alternate universe where Mary Jane acquired spider powers instead of Peter classic example include ''{{Marvel Mangaverse}}'' and recent {{ComicBook/Renew Your Vows}} where she fought alongside Peter and their daughter and recently in possession of a symbiote costume.

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** The concept of Mary Jane getting powers and donning a spider costume is nothing new as well since in Marvel's multiverse there is an alternate universe where Mary Jane acquired spider powers instead of Peter classic example include ''{{Marvel Mangaverse}}'' ''Manga/MarvelMangaverse'' and recent {{ComicBook/Renew Your Vows}} ''ComicBook/RenewYourVows'' where she fought alongside Peter and their daughter and recently in possession of a symbiote costume.


* InternetBackdraft: Spider-Man being turned into Spider-Ham by Loki. As soon as the trailers were revealed, several fans were outraged, stating this was an attack to Spidey's dignity. And things ''didn't'' get better when the episode was up.

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* InternetBackdraft: Spider-Man being turned into Spider-Ham ComicBook/SpiderHam by Loki. As soon as the trailers were revealed, several fans were outraged, stating this was an attack to Spidey's dignity. And things ''didn't'' get better when the episode was up.


* AssPull: Doc Ock [[spoiler: getting a redeeming moment in helping Spidey save the other heroes]] in the climax of the series finale [[spoiler: and his last appearance implying that Iron Man is going to give him a job at Stark Industries. After his role in Season 4 as the KnightOfCerebus Archenemy who kept further crossing the MoralEventHorizon with each new episode, it feels very unearned and makes Ock a major KarmaHoudini. Then again, if ''[[Series/AvengersAssemble Avengers: Ultron Revolution]]'' is anything to go by, Ock may still be in Iron Man's custody]].

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* AssPull: Doc Ock [[spoiler: getting a redeeming moment in helping Spidey save the other heroes]] in the climax of the series finale [[spoiler: and his last appearance implying that Iron Man is going to give him a job at Stark Industries. After his role in Season 4 as the KnightOfCerebus Archenemy who kept further crossing the MoralEventHorizon with each new episode, it feels very unearned and makes Ock a major KarmaHoudini. Then again, if ''[[Series/AvengersAssemble ''[[WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble Avengers: Ultron Revolution]]'' is anything to go by, Ock may still be in Iron Man's custody]].


* LoveItOrHateIt: This show in a nutshell; just read the other tropes on this page to figure out why.



* RootingForTheEmpire: Our heroes consist of a protagonist whose sense of humor ''[[LoveItOrHateIt really]]'' depends on personal taste and his teammates who regularly mistreat him. Many villains are usually composed of CreepyAwesome characters who have excellent vocalization on the part of their actors, and tend to be the part many people think is [[JustHereForGodzilla worth watching]]. There's also the fact that some major villains on the show are portrayed in a very sympathetic light. Particularly [[spoiler:Venom, who is actually Harry Osborn, who is genuinely a good person, who cannot control the symbiote and is easily the most sympathetic character on the show.]]

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Our heroes consist of a protagonist whose sense of humor ''[[LoveItOrHateIt really]]'' ''really'' depends on personal taste and his teammates who regularly mistreat him. Many villains are usually composed of CreepyAwesome characters who have excellent vocalization on the part of their actors, and tend to be the part many people think is [[JustHereForGodzilla worth watching]]. There's also the fact that some major villains on the show are portrayed in a very sympathetic light. Particularly [[spoiler:Venom, who is actually Harry Osborn, who is genuinely a good person, who cannot control the symbiote and is easily the most sympathetic character on the show.]]



** Following a LoveItOrHateIt reception for the first two seasons, Web Warriors has made some fans admit the show can be good at times, but it's still overall quite mediocre.

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** Following a LoveItOrHateIt polarizing reception for the first two seasons, Web Warriors has made some fans admit the show can be good at times, but it's still overall quite mediocre.


** Some fans decried Mary Jane expressing an interest in journalism as making her an {{expy}} of ComicBook/LoisLane--expected during the "Ultimate Knights" arc shortly before ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'', the MJ of the actual ComicBook/UltimateMarvel comics displayed an interest in journalism and even joined the Midtown's school network after filming a report and [[spoiler:and after Peter's "death", she typed up a story about how she felt the world and Nick Fury, killed Spider-Man with the intent of sending it to various media outlets.]]

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** Some fans decried Mary Jane expressing an interest in journalism as making her an {{expy}} of ComicBook/LoisLane--expected ComicBook/LoisLane--except during the "Ultimate Knights" arc shortly before ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'', the MJ of the actual ComicBook/UltimateMarvel comics displayed an interest in journalism and even joined the Midtown's school network after filming a report and [[spoiler:and after Peter's "death", she typed up a story about how she felt the world and Nick Fury, Fury killed Spider-Man with the intent of sending it to various media outlets.]]


* HarsherInHindsight: Every [[Heartwarming/{{UltimateSpider-Man}} heartwarming moment]] with [[spoiler: the Scarlet Spider]] became a lot less so in light of [[spoiler: "The New Sinister 6, Part 1",]] where it was revealed that [[spoiler: he, and not Rhino, was really TheMole for Octavius, meaning those moments consisted of him stringing Peter, Flash, Aunt May, and others along as part of his cover to make it hurt worse when he betrays Peter and unmasks him to Ock.]]
** Likewise, depending on whether or not [[spoiler: Scarlet Spider is a clone (which given his resemblance to Peter, he probably is)]] those couple of times Doc Ock managed to catch Spider-Man become even darker than they already were, especially the times he successfully [[spoiler: acquired blood]] from Spidey.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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Every [[Heartwarming/{{UltimateSpider-Man}} heartwarming moment]] with [[spoiler: the Scarlet Spider]] became a lot less so in light of [[spoiler: "The New Sinister 6, Part 1",]] where it was revealed that [[spoiler: he, and not Rhino, was really TheMole for Octavius, meaning those moments consisted of him stringing Peter, Flash, Aunt May, and others along as part of his cover to make it hurt worse when he betrays Peter and unmasks him to Ock.]]
** Likewise, depending on whether or not [[spoiler: [[spoiler:as Scarlet Spider is a clone (which given his resemblance to Peter, he probably is)]] clone,]] those couple of times Doc Ock managed to catch Spider-Man become even darker than they already were, especially the times he successfully [[spoiler: acquired blood]] from Spidey.


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** [[spoiler:Due to it being from the comics, the Scarlet Spider being a clone of Peter.]]

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