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Absorbing man doesn't have a point in-universe as Jane didn't take the name it was given to her by Thor (she only called herself "Goddess of Thunder") not taking would an insult to his face. This was pointed out repeatedly and deleted from here repeatedly, but people keep adding it back... almost like they didn't read the series or something.


* StrawmanHasAPoint: A rather painful example with Absorbing Man. When Jane Foster-Thor first fights him, he find the fact that she has taken up Thor's mantle & name absurd, in a way that is meant to be a TakeThat [[DearNegativeReader towards fans unhappy with the change]]. However, Absorbing Man also states to her "You wanna be a Chick Superhero? Fine. Who the Hell Cares? But get your own identity!" Jane!Thor simply retorts with a LameComeback before knocking him out. Unsurprisingly, ''many'' fans found themselves agreeing with Absorbing Man's sentiment, concurring that it would have been better if Jane simply forged her own mantle rather than hijacking the role and ''name'' of the God of Thunder.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: A rather painful example with Absorbing Man. When Jane Foster-Thor first fights him, he find the fact that she has taken up Thor's mantle & name absurd, in a way that is meant to be a TakeThat [[DearNegativeReader towards fans unhappy with the change]]. However, Absorbing Man also states to her "You wanna be a Chick Superhero? Fine. Who the Hell Cares? But get your own identity!" Jane!Thor simply retorts with a LameComeback before knocking him out in what is supposed to be a badass moment. Unsurprisingly, ''many'' fans found themselves agreeing with Absorbing Man's sentiment, concurring that it would have been better if Jane simply forged her own mantle rather than hijacking the role and ''name'' of the God of Thunder.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: A rather painful example with Absorbing Man. When Jane Foster-Thor first fights him, he find the fact that she has taken up Thor's mantle & name absurd, in a way that is meant to be a TakeThat [[DearNegativeReader towards fans unhappy with the change]]. However, Absorbing Man also states to her "You wanna be a Chick Superhero? Fine. Who the Hell Cares? But get your own identity!" Jane!Thor simply retorts with a LameComeback before knocking him out in what is supposed to be a badass moment.out. Unsurprisingly, ''many'' fans found themselves agreeing with Absorbing Man's sentiment, concurring that it would have been better if Jane simply forged her own mantle rather than hijacking the role and ''name'' of the God of Thunder.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: A rather painful example with Absorbing Man. When Jane Foster-Thor first fights him, he find the fact that she has taken up Thor's mantle & name absurd, in a way that is meant to be a TakeThat [[DearNegativeReader towards fans unhappy with the change]]. However, Absorbing Man also states to her "You wanna be a Chick Superhero? Fine. Who the Hell Cares? But get your own identity!" Jane!Thor simply retorts with a LameComeback before knocking him out in what is supposed to be a badass moment. Unsurprisingly, ''many'' fans found themselves agreeing with Absorbing Man's sentiment, concurring that it would have been better if Jane simply forged her own mantle rather than hijacking the role and ''name'' of the God of Thunder.
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** Jonathan Hickman did one in his ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengersJonathanHickman Avengers]]'' run. The original Thor was unworthy during the ''ComicBook/TimeRunsOut'' arc, and instead used the hammer of Thorr, which can only be lifted by the ''unworthy''. At the end of the arc, Thor is unable to lift it.
** Seemingly playing off that, in ''The Unworthy Thor'', Thor is able to use Ultimate Mjolnir to teleport all of Asgard, meaning he ''is'' worthy. However, he himself chooses to not use the hammer further. Beta Ray Bill even says that, if any gods are worthy, then it's Thor.
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** Jonathan Hickman did one in his ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengersJonathanHickman Avengers]]'' run. The original Thor was unworthy during the "Time Runs Out" arc, and instead used the hammer of Thorr, which can only be lifted by the ''unworthy''. At the end of the arc, Thor is unable to lift it.

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** Jonathan Hickman did one in his ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengersJonathanHickman Avengers]]'' run. The original Thor was unworthy during the "Time Runs Out" ''ComicBook/TimeRunsOut'' arc, and instead used the hammer of Thorr, which can only be lifted by the ''unworthy''. At the end of the arc, Thor is unable to lift it.
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** Jonathan Hickman did one in his ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansAvengers Avengers]]'' run. The original Thor was unworthy during the "Time Runs Out" arc, and instead used the hammer of Thorr, which can only be lifted by the ''unworthy''. At the end of the arc, Thor is unable to lift it.

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** Jonathan Hickman did one in his ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansAvengers ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengersJonathanHickman Avengers]]'' run. The original Thor was unworthy during the "Time Runs Out" arc, and instead used the hammer of Thorr, which can only be lifted by the ''unworthy''. At the end of the arc, Thor is unable to lift it.
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* FanNickname: Not a good one, but sections of 4chan and reddit have taken to calling her Whor (from Woman Thor, but you know...) while more neutral places have used Thordis (as reference to the "[[ComicBook/WhatIf What if...]]"), [[spoiler:Jane]] Thor and Lady Thor (which was eventually used in-comic as well). Jane Fos-Thor is also pretty common.
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* BrokenBase: The idea of Thor being a LegacyCharacter. Some feel that since "Thor" is Thor Odinson's birth name rather than a CodeName, someone ''other'' than him shouldn’t be calling themselves by his name. Others point out that since Jane Foster explicitly wields the Power of Thor and is now officially the GodOfThunder, she might as well ''be'' Thor.

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* BrokenBase: The idea of Thor being a LegacyCharacter. Some feel that since "Thor" is Thor Odinson's birth name rather than a CodeName, someone ''other'' than him shouldn’t be calling themselves by his name. Others point out that since Jane Foster explicitly wields the Power of Thor and is now officially the GodOfThunder, she might as well ''be'' Thor. The fact that other characters have taken up the name before (specifically Eric Masterson before becoming ComicBook/{{Thunderstrike}}) further muddies the waters.
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* BrokenBase: The idea of Thor being a LegacyCharacter. Some feel that since "Thor" is Thor Odinson's birth name rather than a CodeName, someone ''other'' than him shouldn’t be calling themselves by his name. Others point out that since Jane Foster explicitly wields the Power of Thor and is now officially the GodOfThunder, she might as well ''be'' Thor.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Her title relaunch as ''Mighty Thor'' has had more positive feedback especially after she got away from Marvels crossovers and was finally allowed to begin her own story arc.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Her title relaunch as ''Mighty Thor'' has had more positive feedback especially after she got away from Marvels Marvel’s crossovers and was finally allowed to begin her own story arc.
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* {{Anvilicious}}:
** When the new female Thor picked up Thor's hammer, the inscription placed on it transformed from "If he be worthy" to "If '''''s'''he'' be worthy", just to [[{{pun}} hammer]] home that it's not just men who can wield it.
** Some objected to Titania throwing a fight against Thor, as a show of female solidarity, despite her having spent 30 years as an antagonist of ComicBook/SheHulk, where female solidarity never came up as something that mattered to her.
* ArcFatigue:
** The mystery of the female Thor's real identity dragged ''on and on and on''. Most people stopped caring by the time it was revealed to be [[spoiler: Jane Foster]]. Didn't help that those issues [[FourLinesAllWaiting juggled two more plotlines]], namely Odin's quest to get back the hammer no matter what (failed) ''and'' Malekith's dealings to get Laufey resurrected (succeeded).
** And as things go on, the fact that Dario Agger's scheme looks nowhere near completion more than two years of publishing time after his introduction, and that he is still yet to get his smug grin knocked off his face by a big damn hammer is also getting wearing. And now it seems like it is going to happen, but in Immortal Hulk.
** The mystery of whatever made Thor unworthy and Jason Aaron dragging out the obvious inevitability that Thor will be worthy again. He's somehow captured by random alien guys, meters away from the Ultimate Mjolnir, and then the series goes into a random story about... the origin of Loki's EliteMooks... then it's right back to the Roxxon stuff, with the original Thor not getting any focus at all. Then, in ''The Unworthy Thor'', it takes ''all five issues'' for him to even reach the hammer again, and he doesn't even use it (in its full capacity), with the hammer instead being set up as the hammer of "the War Thor", ''another'' hammer wielder with a secret identity. Note: Thor being unworthy of using Mjolnir happened in 2014, in the ''Original Sin'' event, and wasn't resolved until ''2017'', in a ''mini''series.
* AssPull:
** [[spoiler:Jane Foster]], upon acquiring Mjolnir, is suddenly able to fight with all of Thor's fighting skills on a level equal to the original. The last time a mortal took over for Thor (Eric Masterson), it was actually a ''plot point'' that he had none of Thor's skills and didn't know how many of his powers worked. This is {{Hand Wave}}d in two ways: one, [[spoiler:Jane]] has observed the way Thor fought for years and is trying to copy what she knows and two, the hammer "likes her better" and is thus giving her guidance. The latter actually has precedent, as Eric Masterson also said that Mjolnir had something of a mind of its own.
** The entire illusion spell that [[spoiler: Mjolnir was able to cast]] because... Jason Aaron wrote himself into a corner. [[spoiler: Mjolnir]] has never ''once'' demonstrated the ability to cast illusions, so... yeah.
** Whilst it's doubtful that TheReveal as to what was said to Odinson to make him unworthy would have ever been satisfactory, given how divisive the results were, the actual revelation is pretty much universally panned as this: [[spoiler:Gorr was right]]. As outraged fans complained, this whole plot point was refuted during the events of the God-Butcher arc itself.
** [[spoiler:Jane's resurrection after sacrificing her life, and Mjolnir,]] to stop Mangog. A fitting, heroic end for a character who has been defined by sacrifice, undone by [[spoiler:[[LightningCanDoAnything the God Tempest channeling itself through Odinson and Odin to zap her back to life]]]]. And no, it still didn't [[spoiler:cure her cancer]].



* BrokenBase:
** The Female Thor series themselves within the ''Thor'' fanbase. A major change to a beloved character is always going to be met with resistance, but some accuse the comic of being feminist propaganda, given the Anvilicious nature of its message as well as the derailing of characters to make her look better. Still, many have praised it for being a good comic with a likable character with a refreshing subject matter, and enjoy the female representation in a very male-dominated genre.
** The reveal of who she really is further splits the fandom. Some actually would've ''preferred'' it if Lady Thor was [[spoiler: Roz Solomon]] instead of [[spoiler: Jane Foster]], since they find her more interesting. While some are interested in what could be done with a Thor who [[spoiler: has cancer]], others think it just gives the character a poor shelf life.
** The ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel relaunch's handling of Loki. Both in regards to Loki's design (where he's regained his second horn and gloves but still has a torn jacket, and has gained PermaStubble that resembles pubes glued to his chin, when Loki's typically been clean shaven, and is now explicitly an adult when previously appeared to be in a young adult form) and his characterization (where it's teased he might be returning to villainy, but its not clear if this is just Loki tricking the villains), has been divisive between those who are glad to have Loki back and enjoy the way he's being handled, and those (mostly fans of ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'') who are less thrilled with how he appears to have forgone the character development from that run and the differing characterization between now and how God of Stories Loki appeared. Really didn't help that Loki:[=AoA=] was one of the titles stealth cancelled (read: ended without an official word about it to this day) before the relaunch and also one without a clear follow-up giving its fans the impression that Marvel ''expects'' them to pick up the new Thor title for their Loki fix. This was somewhat mitigated by the implication that [[spoiler: Loki and Freyja are working together]]... then it wasn't with how that was resolved.
** The handling of Odin has also upset fans. He has always been unpleasant and a jerkass at times, but under Jason Aaron this has been taken UpToEleven, just so he can be used as a giant target for the writer to [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped drop as many anvils as possible on]] (Odin is basically the ''embodiment'' of the patriarchy). The fact that the new Thor was shown as being able to somehow fight evenly against Odin, something that classic Thor never would have had a snowball's chance to do, has also been criticized. Though many argue back that despite whaling on him with all she's got and even powered by Jupiter giant storm Thor still didn't do much but give him a bloody nose which while impressive is far from an "even" match.



* CriticalDissonance: Professional critics seem to love the new Female Thor. Fan response, however, has been much more divisive.
* DontShootTheMessage: A number of feminist readers expressed this view concerning the new Thor, stating that female superheroes ''do'' need more prominence and respect given how disproportionate the gender balance is and female readers need more characters to identify with. However, some aspects of the story have legitimate problems, and Thor being one of Marvel's biggest heroes, how well this was or wasn't handled might carry over to future diversification attempts.



* HarsherInHindsight: Thor becoming unworthy of his hammer is all the more stinging when, in ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'', Hydra Cap uses it no problem. In fact, this is one of the ''main'' criticisms of ''both'' stories. [[spoiler:This one is mitigated by the fact that at the end, it's revealed that the CosmicRetcon that made Cap a HYDRA agent also altered Mjolnir's enchantment.]]



* IdiotPlot: Discounting the mystery behind Female Thor's identity aside, the reason why Malekith was easily able to go as far as he could for years was how idiotic some of the heroes outside of Female Thor and Freyja were. One example was when Odinson confronts both Female Thor and Malekith, and [[SkewedPriorities chooses instead to fight Female Thor for "stealing" his hammer and lets Malekith go]], or how Odin is more obsessed over getting Mjolnir back rather than try and stop Malekith before he gets stronger. And sure enough, by the time they could pull their act together, [[spoiler:Mangog has destroyed Asgardia, leaving the Nine Realms ill-prepared for Malekith's imminent campaign.]]



* {{Narm}}:
** The fact that the original, male Thor has since stopped using his name altogether and instead just calls himself by his epithet, Odinson. In times past it might have been used as just a nickname, but discarding his given name in favor of it is not all that dramatic since it accompanies the ascension of the female Thor and feels rather forced.
** Issue 7 of that same volume apparently thinks "environmentalist with a gun" is a badass description for Roz Solomon.
** Dario Agger's rapid descent into becoming a ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanet''-tier villain whose schemes involve things like trying to increase the revenue of Roxxon's salmon hatcheries by wiping the species out in the wild through the use of genetically-altered bears that are conditioned to eat themselves to death.
** The introduction of "War Thor" has the line "meet the War Thor, and prepared to bleed".
** The fire demons of Muspelheim using "flaming" as a curse word in a ClusterFBomb just gets silly, as they use it in just about every spot one could traditionally use the normal F.



* ReplacementScrappy: Due to many readers preferring the original Thor to continue helming the book, Female Thor was this before her story even started. There's issue about her using the name (Unlike Steve Rogers and Captain America, Thor is the character's legitimate name), the controversial set-up to have Thor lose his hammer (an ''Original Sin'' plot point that kinda came out of nowhere and wasn't explained for years), and the design of her costume.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: In ''The Unworthy Thor'', both [[spoiler:Black Swan]] and [[spoiler:Proxima Midnight]], both popular characters from ''ComicBook/JonathanHickmansAvengers'', are offed nonchalantly by [[spoiler:Hela]]. It doesn't help that why [[spoiler:Black Swan]] was even ''working'' with Thanos anymore was left unexplained, given her entire motivation being a moot point after ''Secret Wars''.
** This was ignored by ''ComicBook/AvengersNoSurrender'', where the entire Black Order shows up alive and well.
* VanillaProtagonist: When she first appeared, detractors cited that the Female Thor's run spent much more time on the mystery of her identity rather than trying to flesh her out as a character. Fans noted that nothing of Female Thor really stood out from her predecessor in terms of personality and felt more of a blank slate. Fortunately, she's far more fleshed out later in Aaron's run [[spoiler:once her identity as Jane Foster has been revealed, delving into her backstory and making her more interesting compared to her initial characterisation as a SatelliteLoveInterest to Thor.]] Some fans however found the attempt too little too late.
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** Marvel's attitude toward the character grated on some people. Specifically, the insistence that the female Thor wasn't intended as "a woman who has Thor's powers" in the same way that Beta-Ray Bill is "an alien with Thor's powers" but rather "she's the new Thor; she's actually Thor." As Linkara put it:
--->'''Linkara:''' The problem is, Thor isn't a costumed identity, its the name he was born with! It would be a bit like Sam Wilson putting on the red-white-and-blue tights, picking up the shield, and calling himself 'Steve Rogers' instead of Captain America! And that's just wrong!"

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