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* MagnificentBastard:
** Nahuseresh, who suavely convinces the Queen of Attolia to cut off the Thief of Eddis's (Eugenides's) hand in order to instigate a war between Attolia and Eddis, which would give the [[TheEmpire Medean Empire]] an excuse to intervene and get a foothold on the Continent. And he does this all while taking care of his delicate skin and fine, sexy oiled hair.
--> ''Attolia uncharacteristically said the first thing that came to mind. "He sharpens his beard into points like a fork," she said of her ambassador, "and uses cheap hair oil."''
** Also, Attolia who managed to take over a kingdom with no help and no training while using only her jewelry and some poisoned berries. And then managed to hold on to it. And while Nahuseresh does the above, she completely out-bastards him by the end when she turns on him and says that she's taking his gifts of gold and troops as just that: ''gifts'', not payment for any kind of service, tells him she knows exactly how he's been trying to undermine her, and ejects him from the country.
** Last but not lest, Gen. ''In spades.'' Especially in the first book, when he tricks the magus into thinking he lost the gift and keeps it hidden in his own braid until the very end.

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* MagnificentBastard:
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MagnificentBitch: Irene, also known as Attolia, appears to be a shy, dim girl, which hides her calculating mind. Following her brother's death in a suspicious accident, she is married off to a contemptuous noble, only to dispatch him on their wedding day via clever use of poison. Using her jewelry to buy the support of soldiers and mercenaries, when Irene's barons attempt to choose a husband for her, she has him summarily killed in front of them, announcing she will rule in her own right and choose her own way. Ruthlessly ruling her own domain, she plays the ambassador Nahuseresh, who suavely convinces the Queen of Attolia allowing him to cut off the Thief of Eddis's (Eugenides's) hand in order to instigate a war between Attolia and Eddis, which would give the [[TheEmpire Medean Empire]] an excuse to intervene and get a foothold on the Continent. And think he does this all controls her while taking care setting him up to his defeat, even arranging for the fall of his delicate skin and fine, sexy oiled hair.
--> ''Attolia uncharacteristically said the first thing that came
army to mind. "He sharpens his beard into points like a fork," she said of strengthen her ambassador, "and uses cheap hair oil."''
** Also, Attolia who managed to take over a kingdom with no help and no training while using only her jewelry and some poisoned berries. And then managed to hold on to it. And while Nahuseresh does the above, she completely out-bastards him by the end when she turns on him and says that she's taking his gifts of gold and troops as just that: ''gifts'', not payment for any kind of service, tells him she knows exactly how he's been trying to undermine her, and ejects him from the country.
** Last but not lest, Gen. ''In spades.'' Especially in the first book, when he tricks the magus into thinking he lost the gift and keeps it hidden in his
own braid until the very end.position.

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* HoYay: Costis and Kamet a practically swimming in it during ''Thick as Thieves''. The fact that they essentially sail off into the sunset together at the end of the book only fueled things.


* GeniusBonus: In ''The Thief'', when Gen and the Magus talk about the old gods, Gen makes a disparaging remark about the "new" gods; which is a pretty accurate description of the gods of Greek mythology. Specifically Zeus and Hera.
* HarsherInHindsight: The early scenes in ''The Queen of Attolia'' where Gen is tortured and maimed are much more horrifying to read after the revelations at the end of the book.

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* GeniusBonus: GeniusBonus:
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In ''The Thief'', when Gen and the Magus talk about the old gods, Gen makes a disparaging remark about the "new" gods; which is a pretty accurate description of the gods of Greek mythology. Specifically Zeus and Hera.
** The stories of Immakuk and Ennikar in ''Thick as Thieves''. The characters themselves are the universe's own version of [[Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh Gilgamesh and Enkidu]] (though not exact parallels). The style of writing is much different than the myths told in previous books; Kamet tells them as poems which emphasize through repetition, just as ''Gilgamesh'' does, and they allude to the unknown portions of ''Gilgamesh'' when Kamet explains that some of the tablets have been lost, leaving modern playwrights to either skip or make up those bits.
* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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The early scenes in ''The Queen of Attolia'' where Gen is tortured and maimed are much more horrifying to read after the revelations at the end of the book.


*CatharsisFactor: This is a common reaction among readers to certain events in several of the books.
** After ''chapters'' of witnessing Gen's gradual slide into depression after losing his hand in ''The Queen of Attolia'', he suddenly comes roaring back into the action by blowing up the Sounisian navy in it's own harbor ''and'' stealing the Magus, twisting the knife as he does so by pointing out that the Magus had previously suggested that he stop sulking and do something productive. Much praise has been given to Turner for how well she timed his return to form, giving the reader just enough angst for them to really feel the weight of what he'd gone through, but taking care to put a stop to it before it got to be too much.
** After Gen spent the first two thirds of ''The King of Attolia'' being bullied by his own attendants and being seen as a blundering buffoon by everyone else, he destroys the entire farce in a single scene, utterly cowing his attendants and single-handedly taking down the greatest threat to his throne from his sick bed. Every character present is left dumbstruck and wondering how on earth they'd managed to forget that the king they'd all considered inept was also the same Thief of Eddis who had once kidnapped their own queen from under their very noses, which is exactly what readers had been wondering throughout the entire book.
** Thick as Thieves was finally released in 2017 after a seven year wait, the longest gap in the series. It featured the long awaited return of [[spoiler: fan favorite Costis]], who was at last depicted as being in his element and no longer the resident ButtMonkey, and it was also a bit of a BreatherEpisode, with less emphasis on political intrigue and returning more to the road trip elements from the first book and focusing on the growing friendship between the two main characters.



* FanNickname - Nahuserfish.
* FanPreferredCouple: Helen (the Queen of Eddis) and the Magus of Sounis, for some fans. Some of us are still happily shipping Helen/Sophos [[spoiler: ''encouraged by'' the latter's mysterious disappearance]]. [[spoiler: The latter one. Engagement's on the books.]]
* FanonDiscontinuity - It hasn't gone so far as to become a BrokenBase, but there's a clear split between the fans who think ''The Queen of Attolia'' is one of, if not, ''the'' best books in the series, and fans who like to pretend it doesn't exist because of the...unusual nature of the romance between [[spoiler:Eugenides and Attolia]].

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* FanNickname - FanNickname: Nahuserfish.
* FanPreferredCouple: Helen (the Queen of Eddis) and the Magus of Sounis, for some fans. Some of us fans are still happily shipping Helen/Sophos [[spoiler: however, ''encouraged by'' the latter's mysterious disappearance]]. [[spoiler: disappearance. The latter one. Engagement's on the books.]]
one becomes canon in book four.
* FanonDiscontinuity - FanonDiscontinuity: It hasn't gone so far as to become a BrokenBase, but there's a clear split between the fans who think ''The Queen of Attolia'' is one of, if not, ''the'' best books in the series, and fans who like to pretend it doesn't exist because of the...unusual nature of the romance between [[spoiler:Eugenides Eugenides and Attolia]].Attolia.



* HarsherInHindsight - The early scenes in ''The Queen of Attolia'' where Gen is [[spoiler:tortured]] and [[spoiler:maimed]] are much more horrifying to read after the revelations at the end of the book.

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* HarsherInHindsight - HarsherInHindsight: The early scenes in ''The Queen of Attolia'' where Gen is [[spoiler:tortured]] tortured and [[spoiler:maimed]] maimed are much more horrifying to read after the revelations at the end of the book.book.
** Costis' joke about the king's heir becomes this after [[spoiler: Irene's miscarriage]] in Thick as Thieves.



** Nahuseresh, who suavely convinces the Queen of Attolia to [[spoiler:cut off the Thief of Eddis's (Eugenides's) hand]] in order to [[spoiler:instigate a war between Attolia and Eddis]], which would give the [[TheEmpire Medean Empire]] an excuse to intervene and get a foothold on the Continent. And he does this all while taking care of his delicate skin and fine, sexy oiled hair.
-->Attolia uncharacteristically said the first thing that came to mind. "He sharpens his beard into points like a fork," she said of her ambassador, "and uses cheap hair oil."
** Also, Attolia who managed to take over a kingdom with no help and no training while using only her jewelry and some poisoned berries. And then managed to hold on to it. And while Nahuseresh does the above, she completely outbastards him by the end when [[spoiler:she turns on him and says that she's taking his gifts of gold and troops as just that: ''gifts'', not payment for any kind of service, tells him she knows exactly how he's been trying to undermine her, and ejects him from the country]].
** Last but not lest, Gen. ''In spades.'' Especially in the first book, when [[spoiler:he tricks the magus into thinking he lost the gift and keeps it hidden in his own braid]] until the very end.
* MemeticBadass - Eugenides. He's already plenty badass in canon, but the fans take his awesomeness to the ''n''th degree.

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** Nahuseresh, who suavely convinces the Queen of Attolia to [[spoiler:cut cut off the Thief of Eddis's (Eugenides's) hand]] hand in order to [[spoiler:instigate instigate a war between Attolia and Eddis]], Eddis, which would give the [[TheEmpire Medean Empire]] an excuse to intervene and get a foothold on the Continent. And he does this all while taking care of his delicate skin and fine, sexy oiled hair.
-->Attolia --> ''Attolia uncharacteristically said the first thing that came to mind. "He sharpens his beard into points like a fork," she said of her ambassador, "and uses cheap hair oil."
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** Also, Attolia who managed to take over a kingdom with no help and no training while using only her jewelry and some poisoned berries. And then managed to hold on to it. And while Nahuseresh does the above, she completely outbastards out-bastards him by the end when [[spoiler:she she turns on him and says that she's taking his gifts of gold and troops as just that: ''gifts'', not payment for any kind of service, tells him she knows exactly how he's been trying to undermine her, and ejects him from the country]].
country.
** Last but not lest, Gen. ''In spades.'' Especially in the first book, when [[spoiler:he he tricks the magus into thinking he lost the gift and keeps it hidden in his own braid]] braid until the very end.
* MemeticBadass - MemeticBadass: Eugenides. He's already plenty badass in canon, but the fans take his awesomeness to the ''n''th degree.



* TheWoobie: Sophos. [[spoiler: Gen after the second book.]]
** Gen in the first two books can hardly go five pages without falling over from something or other.

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* TheWoobie: Sophos. [[spoiler: Gen after the second book.]]\n
** Gen in the first two books can hardly go five pages in the first two books without falling over from something or other.other, and even without that he ''undeniably'' becomes this in book two.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome : It's pretty much agreed on by [[strike:most]] '''all''' of the fans that everything Gen does qualifies for this. He eats Awesome Flakes for breakfast... in your rafters. He's not the only one. "Diplomacy, in my own name."
** Has several throughout the series. Face it, where this CrazyAwesome, BunnyEarsLawyer thief goes, awesome immediately follows.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming - ''The King of Attolia'' is '''full''' of these.



* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: It's pretty much agreed on by the fans that everything Gen does qualifies for this. He eats Awesome Flakes for breakfast... in your rafters. He's not the only one. "Diplomacy, in my own name." Face it, where this CrazyAwesome, BunnyEarsLawyer thief goes, awesome immediately follows.



* SoCoolItsAwesome - Words like "cool" and "awesome" don't even begin do it justice.


* RewatchBonus: Everything in the early parts ''The Thief'' the first time you reread it, from Gen's behavior towards the magus to the simple act of glancing at a display of earrings.



** Gen in the first two books can hardly go five pages without falling over from something or other.

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** Gen in the first two books can hardly go five pages without falling over from something or other.


* MagnificentBastard: Nahuseresh, who suavely convinces the Queen of Attolia to [[spoiler:cut off the Thief of Eddis's (Eugenides's) hand]] in order to [[spoiler:instigate a war between Attolia and Eddis]], which would give the [[TheEmpire Medean Empire]] an excuse to intervene and get a foothold on the Continent. And he does this all while taking care of his delicate skin and fine, sexy oiled hair.

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* MagnificentBastard: MagnificentBastard:
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Nahuseresh, who suavely convinces the Queen of Attolia to [[spoiler:cut off the Thief of Eddis's (Eugenides's) hand]] in order to [[spoiler:instigate a war between Attolia and Eddis]], which would give the [[TheEmpire Medean Empire]] an excuse to intervene and get a foothold on the Continent. And he does this all while taking care of his delicate skin and fine, sexy oiled hair.



** Also, Attolia who managed to take over a kingdom with no help and no training while using only her jewelry and some poisoned berries. And then managed to hold on to it.
** Last but not lest, Gen. ''In spades.'' Especially in the first book

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** Also, Attolia who managed to take over a kingdom with no help and no training while using only her jewelry and some poisoned berries. And then managed to hold on to it.
it. And while Nahuseresh does the above, she completely outbastards him by the end when [[spoiler:she turns on him and says that she's taking his gifts of gold and troops as just that: ''gifts'', not payment for any kind of service, tells him she knows exactly how he's been trying to undermine her, and ejects him from the country]].
** Last but not lest, Gen. ''In spades.'' Especially in the first bookbook, when [[spoiler:he tricks the magus into thinking he lost the gift and keeps it hidden in his own braid]] until the very end.


** Also Gen, especially in the first book

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** Also Gen, especially Last but not lest, Gen. ''In spades.'' Especially in the first book

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* EvilIsSexy: Or so Nahuseresh thinks. Other characters [[LampshadeHanging comment on it]].


* TheMasochismTango: Gen loves the extremely ruthless [[spoiler: Queen of Attolia even after she has his hand chopped off]]


* EarWorm - "The King's Wedding Night," apparently.


* TheMasochismTango: Gen loves the somewhat sadistic [[spoiler: Queen of Attolia even after she has his hand chopped off]]

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* TheMasochismTango: Gen loves the somewhat sadistic extremely ruthless [[spoiler: Queen of Attolia even after she has his hand chopped off]]

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** Also Gen, especially in the first book

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** Has several throughout the series. Face it, where this CrazyAwesome, BunnyEarsLawyer thief goes, awesome immediately follows.

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