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** Creator/GarthEnnis ''really'', hates the IRA. And he wants you to hate them as well. Throughout the ''Kitchen Irish'' arc, he has several characters call them out over how stupid and cowardly they are. Understandable, as Ennis grew up in UsefulNotes/StrokeCountry during the height of the religious violence in the region.

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** Creator/GarthEnnis ''really'', hates the IRA. And he wants you to hate them as well. Throughout the ''Kitchen Irish'' arc, he has several characters call them out over how stupid and cowardly they are. Understandable, as Ennis grew up in UsefulNotes/StrokeCountry during the height of the religious violence in the region.


** And ''again''.

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** And ''again''.again.



** [[spoiler:Bullseye]] arguably qualifies as a villainous example. After all, can you think of ''any'' other character who successfully managed to give Frank even a ''brief'' HeroicBSOD?


** Creator/GarthEnnis really, ''really'', '''''really''''' hates the IRA. And he wants ''you'' to hate them as well. Throughout the ''Kitchen Irish'' arc, he has several characters call them out over how stupid and cowardly they are. Understandable, as Ennis grew up in UsefulNotes/StrokeCountry during the height of the religious violence in the region.

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** Creator/GarthEnnis really, ''really'', '''''really''''' hates the IRA. And he wants ''you'' you to hate them as well. Throughout the ''Kitchen Irish'' arc, he has several characters call them out over how stupid and cowardly they are. Understandable, as Ennis grew up in UsefulNotes/StrokeCountry during the height of the religious violence in the region.



*** Interestingly enough, the lower ranking grunts and common soldiers ''[[DefiedTrope do not]]'' fall into this category; Ennis saves all his rancor for the feeble old men who send young men off to [[WarIsHell fight and die for them]], ''especially'' Armchair Generals who coasted through their careers while seeing virtually no combat between Vietnam and the first Gulf War. Even the evil Zakharov gets more respect, despite the horrible things he's done, because of his veteran status.

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*** Interestingly enough, the lower ranking grunts and common soldiers ''[[DefiedTrope [[DefiedTrope do not]]'' not]] fall into this category; Ennis saves all his rancor for the feeble old men who send young men off to [[WarIsHell fight and die for them]], ''especially'' Armchair Generals who coasted through their careers while seeing virtually no combat between Vietnam and the first Gulf War. Even the evil Zakharov gets more respect, despite the horrible things he's done, because of his veteran status.



** You can apply this trope to just about ''any'' criminal organization: the TheMafia, TheCartel, the [[TheMafiya Russian Mafia]], GangBangers, RuthlessModernPirates, [[AllBikersAreHellsAngels bikers]], white collar criminals...

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** You can apply this trope to just about ''any'' any criminal organization: the TheMafia, TheCartel, the [[TheMafiya Russian Mafia]], GangBangers, RuthlessModernPirates, [[AllBikersAreHellsAngels bikers]], white collar criminals...



* {{Anvilicious}}: Given that this is a series penned mostly by Garth Ennis, it should come as no surprise that the subject material in various story arcs occasionally lapses into this territory. When it comes to ''[[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil The Slavers]]'' and ''[[WarIsHell Valley Forge]]'', however, such subjects ''[[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped really should be taken seriously.]]''

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Given that this is a series penned mostly by Garth Ennis, it should come as no surprise that the subject material in various story arcs occasionally lapses into this territory. When it comes to ''[[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil The Slavers]]'' and ''[[WarIsHell Valley Forge]]'', however, such subjects ''[[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped really should be taken seriously.]]'']]



* CrazyAwesome: Bullseye ''lives and breathes this trope''. Best exemplified in his introductory scene, where we see him ''shit out a gun'' and kill a pair of Russian thugs with it. Not long after, he asks Frank what his favorite color is while the latter is preparing to blow him up with a stick of C4. The man is pretty much this trope personified.
* CrossesTheLineTwice: As expected from an adults-only series written primarily by Creator/GarthEnnis, it should come as no surprise that the series crosses the boundaries of good taste with [[PunctuatedForEmphasis every. Single. Arc]]. ''Seriously''. Even [[Creator/MarkMillar Mark]] [[UpToEleven freaking Millar]] would churn his stomach at some of the more darkly humorous bits in the series.

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* CrazyAwesome: Bullseye ''lives and breathes is all about this trope''.trope. Best exemplified in his introductory scene, where we see him ''shit out a gun'' and kill a pair of Russian thugs with it. Not long after, he asks Frank what his favorite color is while the latter is preparing to blow him up with a stick of C4. The man is pretty much this trope personified.
* CrossesTheLineTwice: As expected from an adults-only series written primarily by Creator/GarthEnnis, it should come as no surprise that the series crosses the boundaries of good taste with [[PunctuatedForEmphasis every. Single. Arc]]. ''Seriously''.Seriously. Even [[Creator/MarkMillar Mark]] [[UpToEleven freaking Millar]] would churn his stomach at some of the more darkly humorous bits in the series.



* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Much like his mainstream counterpart, this is another issue that plagues this version of the character. Just about every writer (Garth Ennis, Jason Aaron) who has depicted the character on a long-term basis has established in their works that Frank Castle is a '''''deeply disturbed''''' and damaged man who barely even qualifies as "human" anymore, whose mass murders do nothing to actually improve society (see ''The Slavers''), whose activities only don't cause massive innocent casualties because of extreme authorial favoritism, and who should not be considered a role model by '''anyone'''. However, go anywhere in comics fandom and you'll stumble across people who think that Frank Castle is the coolest guy ever and it's a terrible pity that nobody's taking out the bad guys like that in the real world.

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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Much like his mainstream counterpart, this is another issue that plagues this version of the character. Just about every writer (Garth Ennis, Jason Aaron) who has depicted the character on a long-term basis has established in their works that Frank Castle is a '''''deeply disturbed''''' ''deeply disturbed'' and damaged man who barely even qualifies as "human" anymore, whose mass murders do nothing to actually improve society (see ''The Slavers''), whose activities only don't cause massive innocent casualties because of extreme authorial favoritism, and who should not be considered a role model by '''anyone'''.anyone. However, go anywhere in comics fandom and you'll stumble across people who think that Frank Castle is the coolest guy ever and it's a terrible pity that nobody's taking out the bad guys like that in the real world.



* GeniusBonus: During Garth Ennis' run the series was ''rife'' with these. Featuring everything from well researched military history, real world crime, geopolitics, in-depth descriptions of firearms and the damage that the human anatomy takes when under extreme duress. The best example of this would be during the Kitchen Irish arc where one of character gives what is essentially an abridged history of the conflict in Northern Ireland, complete with references to the Good Friday Agreement and so forth.

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* GeniusBonus: During Garth Ennis' run the series was ''rife'' rife with these. Featuring everything from well researched military history, real world crime, geopolitics, in-depth descriptions of firearms and the damage that the human anatomy takes when under extreme duress. The best example of this would be during the Kitchen Irish arc where one of character gives what is essentially an abridged history of the conflict in Northern Ireland, complete with references to the Good Friday Agreement and so forth.



* MemeticBadass: Frank Castle was ''already'' this in the main 616 Universe. This version only amplifies his reputation even further.

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* MemeticBadass: Frank Castle was ''already'' already this in the main 616 Universe. This version only amplifies his reputation even further.



* MemeticMutation: ''Behold'', Creator/SteveDillon's everlasting legacy, ''[[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/frank-castles-face Frank Face]]''.
* MisaimedFandom: If you've read the Punisher's main YMMV page already, then you'll know that the character has become very popular with members of the American armed forces as of late - much to the chagrin of creator Gerry Conway, who was a conscientious objector during The Vietnam War and explicitly wrote the Punisher as a ''bad guy''. How popular has he became? Well, in one scene early on in the controversial war movie, ''American Sniper'', one of the main characters' fellow [=SEAL=]s can be seen reading a Punisher comic. And if you look closely, you can see that it's issue #1 of ''ComicBook/ThePunisherMAX''. Later in the film, the main character and his SEAL platoon go on to call themselves "''the Punishers''" and spray-paint the skull logo on their gear as they go around laying waste to the enemy. A [[http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/american-sniper-comics-punisher.html Vulture article]] explains in depth how this homage is both eerily perfect and ''terrifying''.

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* MemeticMutation: ''Behold'', Behold Creator/SteveDillon's everlasting legacy, ''[[http://knowyourmeme.[[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/frank-castles-face Frank Face]]''.
Face]].
* MisaimedFandom: If you've read the Punisher's main YMMV page already, then you'll know that the character has become very popular with members of the American armed forces as of late - much to the chagrin of creator Gerry Conway, who was a conscientious objector during The Vietnam War and explicitly wrote the Punisher as a ''bad guy''.bad guy. How popular has he became? Well, in one scene early on in the controversial war movie, ''American Sniper'', one of the main characters' fellow [=SEAL=]s can be seen reading a Punisher comic. And if you look closely, you can see that it's issue #1 of ''ComicBook/ThePunisherMAX''. Later in the film, the main character and his SEAL platoon go on to call themselves "''the Punishers''" and spray-paint the skull logo on their gear as they go around laying waste to the enemy. A [[http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/american-sniper-comics-punisher.html Vulture article]] explains in depth how this homage is both eerily perfect and ''terrifying''.terrifying.



** After Pittsy [[spoiler:takes a shotgun slug to the face]], we are treated to a ''highly'' detailed image of of the aftermath. Words do the visual no justice, you'll just have to see it for yourself. Or don't...

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** After Pittsy [[spoiler:takes a shotgun slug to the face]], we are treated to a ''highly'' highly detailed image of of the aftermath. Words do the visual no justice, you'll just have to see it for yourself. Or don't...



* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Given the dark subject material of the series and most of the story arcs, sometimes being heavy-handed in one's approach is the ''only'' way to get an important message across. A few notable examples include.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Given the dark subject material of the series and most of the story arcs, sometimes being heavy-handed in one's approach is the ''only'' only way to get an important message across. A few notable examples include.



** In ''Up is Down and Black is White'', we are treated to a flashback to Nicky Cavella's backstory, and while most of what is featured there is easy NightmareFuel material, the ''real'' creepy part is the sight of Nicky's morbidly obese aunt, "Auntie Mo", forcing herself upon a ''twelve year old'' Cavella. Nicolas's mortified expression during the abhorrent act says it all.

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** In ''Up is Down and Black is White'', we are treated to a flashback to Nicky Cavella's backstory, and while most of what is featured there is easy NightmareFuel material, the ''real'' real creepy part is the sight of Nicky's morbidly obese aunt, "Auntie Mo", forcing herself upon a ''twelve year old'' Cavella. Nicolas's mortified expression during the abhorrent act says it all.



* VindicatedByHistory: Back when Ennis started writing the series, conservative reviewers [[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134145/posts were none to pleased]] over the comics critical view of the American Government; a key element of "In the Beginning", was Frank refusing to hunt Bin Laden for the CIA. He refers to his Vietnam war days as the last he'd ever waste fighting for the government, but what ''really'' set him off was wondering how the CIA could possibly pay for such an operation, let alone do it quietly enough to use a mass-murdering vigilante like himself as a catspaw. Later, Micro confirms Frank's suspicions; when Coalition forces opened up Afghanistan, the military gained access to world's primary opium producing areas -- Bethell planned to fund Frank's operations by trafficking Afghan heroin. Ennis based this on historical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking allegations of CIA_drug trafficking]] in Vietnam and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking Nicaragua]], and revisited it in Comicbook/FuryMyWarGoneBy as he felt [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped felt the need to say]] "Yes, this ''really did happen!''" In TheNewTens, he was proven to be prescient; not only did the [[http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053 US military traffic in heroin]], by doing so they [[https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/09/how-the-heroin-trade-explains-the-us-uk-failure-in-afghanistan completely converted the country's economy to its production.]]

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* VindicatedByHistory: Back when Ennis started writing the series, conservative reviewers [[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134145/posts were none to pleased]] over the comics critical view of the American Government; a key element of "In the Beginning", was Frank refusing to hunt Bin Laden for the CIA. He refers to his Vietnam war days as the last he'd ever waste fighting for the government, but what ''really'' really set him off was wondering how the CIA could possibly pay for such an operation, let alone do it quietly enough to use a mass-murdering vigilante like himself as a catspaw. Later, Micro confirms Frank's suspicions; when Coalition forces opened up Afghanistan, the military gained access to world's primary opium producing areas -- Bethell planned to fund Frank's operations by trafficking Afghan heroin. Ennis based this on historical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking allegations of CIA_drug trafficking]] in Vietnam and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking Nicaragua]], and revisited it in Comicbook/FuryMyWarGoneBy as he felt [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped felt the need to say]] "Yes, this ''really did happen!''" In TheNewTens, he was proven to be prescient; not only did the [[http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053 US military traffic in heroin]], by doing so they [[https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/09/how-the-heroin-trade-explains-the-us-uk-failure-in-afghanistan completely converted the country's economy to its production.]]



** Nicolas Cavella, a smug mob chump who had the ''ingenious'' idea of digging up the remains of Frank's family and ''urinating on them'', then releasing footage of this to the news media in the hopes of infuriating Castle. This goes over about as well as you would imagine. For starters, ''it doesn't even work'': instead of going after Cavella, Frank instead murders the hell out of everyone ''but'' Cavella, demanding that the city re-bury his family's remains or he'll keep murder-spreeing until they do. When they finally do bury the remains, ''then'' Frank goes after Cavella, [[TranquilFury completely calm]] and '''''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge utterly vindictive]]'''''. Cavella spent the intervening time oscillating between gloating that the Punisher was terrified of him and doing his work of taking out other gangs, and batshit paranoid that Frank was going to kill him at any second.
** The Eight Generals ''exemplify'' this trope. Every single decision they make continues to get them in more and more trouble. By the end, they've given up on trying to advance their own self-interests and are just trying to save their own asses.

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** Nicolas Cavella, a smug mob chump who had the ''ingenious'' [[SarcasmMode ingenious]] idea of digging up the remains of Frank's family and ''urinating on them'', then releasing footage of this to the news media in the hopes of infuriating Castle. This goes over about as well as you would imagine. For starters, ''it doesn't even work'': instead of going after Cavella, Frank instead murders the hell out of everyone ''but'' but Cavella, demanding that the city re-bury his family's remains or he'll keep murder-spreeing until they do. When they finally do bury the remains, ''then'' then Frank goes after Cavella, [[TranquilFury completely calm]] and '''''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge ''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge utterly vindictive]]'''''.vindictive]]''. Cavella spent the intervening time oscillating between gloating that the Punisher was terrified of him and doing his work of taking out other gangs, and batshit paranoid that Frank was going to kill him at any second.
** The Eight Generals ''exemplify'' exemplify this trope. Every single decision they make continues to get them in more and more trouble. By the end, they've given up on trying to advance their own self-interests and are just trying to save their own asses.



** '''''Viorica'''''. ''Dear god'', the hell that that poor women endures can take up an entire character page.

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** '''''Viorica'''''. ''Dear god'', '''Viorica'''. Dear god, the hell that that poor women endures can take up an entire character page.


*** Interestingly enough, the lower ranking grunts and common soldiers ''[[DefiedTrope do not]]'' fall into this category; Ennis saves all his rancor for the feeble old men who send young men off to [[WarIsHell fight and die for them]], ''especially'' Armchair Generals who coasted through their careers while seeing virtually no combat between Vietnam and the first Gulf War. Even CompleteMonster Zakharov gets more respect, despite the horrible things he's done, because of his veteran status.

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*** Interestingly enough, the lower ranking grunts and common soldiers ''[[DefiedTrope do not]]'' fall into this category; Ennis saves all his rancor for the feeble old men who send young men off to [[WarIsHell fight and die for them]], ''especially'' Armchair Generals who coasted through their careers while seeing virtually no combat between Vietnam and the first Gulf War. Even CompleteMonster the evil Zakharov gets more respect, despite the horrible things he's done, because of his veteran status.


*** He also dislikes the Irish-Americans who superficially cling to their Irish roots even though they've been American for generations and are basically just obsessed with TheThemeParkVersion that gives them a reason to get drunk and act like idiots.



*** Interestingly enough, the lower ranking grunts and common soldiers ''[[DefiedTrope do not]]'' fall into this category; Ennis saves all his rancor for the feeble old men who send young men off to [[WarIsHell fight and die for them]].

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*** Interestingly enough, the lower ranking grunts and common soldiers ''[[DefiedTrope do not]]'' fall into this category; Ennis saves all his rancor for the feeble old men who send young men off to [[WarIsHell fight and die for them]].them]], ''especially'' Armchair Generals who coasted through their careers while seeing virtually no combat between Vietnam and the first Gulf War. Even CompleteMonster Zakharov gets more respect, despite the horrible things he's done, because of his veteran status.


* VindicatedByHistory: Back when Ennis started writing the series, conservative reviewers went [[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134145/posts were none to pleased]] over the comics critical view of the American Government; a key element of "In the Beginning", was Frank refusing to hunt Bin Laden for the CIA. He refers to his Vietnam war days as the last he'd ever waste fighting for the government, but what ''really'' set him off was wondering how the CIA could possibly pay for such an operation, let alone do it quietly enough to use a mass-murdering vigilante like himself as a catspaw. Later, Micro confirms Frank's suspicions; when Coalition forces opened up Afghanistan, the military gained access to world's primary opium producing areas -- Bethell planned to fund Frank's operations by trafficking Afghan heroin. Ennis based this on historical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking allegations of CIA_drug trafficking]] in Vietnam and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking Nicaragua]], and revisited it in Comicbook/FuryMyWarGoneBy as he felt [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped felt the need to say]] "Yes, this ''really did happen!''" In TheNewTens, he was proven to be prescient; not only did the [[http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053 US military traffic in heroin]], by doing so they [[https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/09/how-the-heroin-trade-explains-the-us-uk-failure-in-afghanistan completely converted the country's economy to its production.]]

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* VindicatedByHistory: Back when Ennis started writing the series, conservative reviewers went [[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134145/posts were none to pleased]] over the comics critical view of the American Government; a key element of "In the Beginning", was Frank refusing to hunt Bin Laden for the CIA. He refers to his Vietnam war days as the last he'd ever waste fighting for the government, but what ''really'' set him off was wondering how the CIA could possibly pay for such an operation, let alone do it quietly enough to use a mass-murdering vigilante like himself as a catspaw. Later, Micro confirms Frank's suspicions; when Coalition forces opened up Afghanistan, the military gained access to world's primary opium producing areas -- Bethell planned to fund Frank's operations by trafficking Afghan heroin. Ennis based this on historical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking allegations of CIA_drug trafficking]] in Vietnam and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking Nicaragua]], and revisited it in Comicbook/FuryMyWarGoneBy as he felt [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped felt the need to say]] "Yes, this ''really did happen!''" In TheNewTens, he was proven to be prescient; not only did the [[http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053 US military traffic in heroin]], by doing so they [[https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/09/how-the-heroin-trade-explains-the-us-uk-failure-in-afghanistan completely converted the country's economy to its production.]]


** From ''Long Cold Dark'', Frank Castle torturing the fuck out of [[spoiler:Barracuda]] by hooking up a car battery to his testicles. '''''[[http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/uvula_fr_b4/3817514/91845/91845_900.jpg For an hour]]'''''.

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** From ''Long Cold Dark'', Frank Castle torturing the fuck out of [[spoiler:Barracuda]] by hooking up a car battery to his testicles. '''''[[http://ic.''[[http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/uvula_fr_b4/3817514/91845/91845_900.jpg For an hour]]'''''.hour]]''.



** In ''Mother Russia'', we have [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Fury taking off his belt and whipping the everloving fuck out of a crooked military General]] who came up with the whole [[spoiler:"fake terrorists crashing a passenger jet full of innocent people as a distraction" plan]]. Descriptions do it no justice - it needs to be [[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FvQxK1ZhRQQ/VfngKr4U_jI/AAAAAAAADXo/xZdcpFIpGHg/s1600/punishermaxrussia11.jpg seen to be fully appreciated]].

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** In ''Mother Russia'', we have [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Fury taking off his belt and whipping the everloving fuck life out of a crooked military General]] who came up with the whole [[spoiler:"fake terrorists crashing a passenger jet full of innocent people as a distraction" plan]]. Descriptions do it no justice - it needs to be [[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FvQxK1ZhRQQ/VfngKr4U_jI/AAAAAAAADXo/xZdcpFIpGHg/s1600/punishermaxrussia11.jpg seen to be fully appreciated]].



* VindicatedByHistory: Back when Ennis started writing the series, conservative reviewers went '''[[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134145/posts BATSHIT]]''' over "Liberal Punisher"; a key element of "In the Beginning", was Frank refusing to hunt Bin Laden for the CIA. He refers to his Vietnam war days as the last he'd ever waste fighting for the government, but what ''really'' set him off was wondering how the CIA could possibly pay for such an operation, let alone do it quietly enough to use a mass-murdering vigilante like himself as a catspaw. Later, Micro confirms Frank's suspicions; when Coalition forces opened up Afghanistan, the military gained access to world's primary opium producing areas -- Bethell planned to fund Frank's operations by trafficking Afghan heroin. Ennis based this on historical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking allegations of CIA_drug trafficking]] in Vietnam and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking Nicaragua]], and revisited it in Comicbook/FuryMyWarGoneBy as he felt [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped felt the need to say]] "Yes, this ''really did happen!''" In TheNewTens, he was proven to be prescient; not only did the [[http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053 US military traffic in heroin]], by doing so they ''[[https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/09/how-the-heroin-trade-explains-the-us-uk-failure-in-afghanistan completely converted the country's economy to its production!]]''

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* VindicatedByHistory: Back when Ennis started writing the series, conservative reviewers went '''[[http://www.[[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134145/posts BATSHIT]]''' were none to pleased]] over "Liberal Punisher"; the comics critical view of the American Government; a key element of "In the Beginning", was Frank refusing to hunt Bin Laden for the CIA. He refers to his Vietnam war days as the last he'd ever waste fighting for the government, but what ''really'' set him off was wondering how the CIA could possibly pay for such an operation, let alone do it quietly enough to use a mass-murdering vigilante like himself as a catspaw. Later, Micro confirms Frank's suspicions; when Coalition forces opened up Afghanistan, the military gained access to world's primary opium producing areas -- Bethell planned to fund Frank's operations by trafficking Afghan heroin. Ennis based this on historical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking allegations of CIA_drug trafficking]] in Vietnam and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking Nicaragua]], and revisited it in Comicbook/FuryMyWarGoneBy as he felt [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped felt the need to say]] "Yes, this ''really did happen!''" In TheNewTens, he was proven to be prescient; not only did the [[http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053 US military traffic in heroin]], by doing so they ''[[https://www.[[https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/09/how-the-heroin-trade-explains-the-us-uk-failure-in-afghanistan completely converted the country's economy to its production!]]''production.]]


* LoveToHate: Although the writers may not have [[MisaimedFandom intended for this effect,]] it's hard not to find the more charismatic villains in the series (such as Tiberiu Bulat, Barracuda, the Kingpin, and Bullseye) to be extraordinarily badass, even if they are [[AxCrazy vile and deranged psychopaths]].

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* LoveToHate: Although the writers may not have [[MisaimedFandom intended for this effect,]] it's It's hard not to find the more charismatic villains in the series (such series--such as Nicky Cavella, William Rawlins, General Zakharov, Tiberiu Bulat, Barracuda, The Heavy, the Kingpin, and Bullseye) to Bullseye--to be entertainingly despicable or [[EvilIsCool extraordinarily badass, badass]], even if they are [[AxCrazy vile and deranged psychopaths]].awful people.


* MoralEventHorizon: Quite a few examples:

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* MoralEventHorizon: Quite MoralEventHorizon:
** Nicky Cavella was at first just
a few examples:more sadistic and efficient mafiosi than what Frank is used to, then he pissed on Frank's family's grave to cement how tasteless he is and his backstory revealed he killed his whole family at eight, just to show how depraved psychotic he was.



** The cabal of generals first introduced in ''Mother Russia''. [[spoiler:To provide a smokescreen for an illegal operation in Russia, they have a team of Arab terrorists they secretly trained for taking out targets inside friendly countries hijack a passenger plane and attempt a suicide bombing on Moscow, only for the plane to be shot down by the missile defenses.]]
** If William Rawlins didn't cross it when he threw his wife overboard to the Taliban--resulting in her being repeatedly raped--he definitely crossed it when he creates a terrorist cell to create false flag attacks.



** The cabal of generals first introduced in ''Mother Russia''. [[spoiler:To provide a smokescreen for an illegal operation in Russia, they have a team of Arab terrorists they secretly trained for taking out targets inside friendly countries hijack a passenger plane and attempt a suicide bombing on Moscow, only for the plane to be shot down by the missile defenses.]]
** Kingpin has one of the worst in the series. [[spoiler: Faced with his old enemies holding his son at knifepoint and forced to choose between saving his little boy's life and killing the last people standing in his way, he coldly shoots them, not showing a hint of emotion as his rival cuts the boy's throat. He then embraces his wife and tells her "''we can have another''"]]. Even allowing that Kingpin didn't actually had much of a choice there, Kingpin's ''reaction'' to the SadisticChoice was not IDidWhatIHadToDo or a DrowningMySorrows but rather a reflection on [[ItsAllAboutMe how much he didn't really love his son after all]].
** Bullseye takes it even further; he was created ''beyond'' the Moral Event Horizon.
** Nicky Cavella was at first just a more sadistic and efficient mafiosi than what Frank is used to, then he pissed on Frank's family's grave to cement how tasteless he is and his backstory revealed he killed his whole family at eight, just to show how depraved psychotic he was.

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** The cabal of generals first introduced in ''Mother Russia''. [[spoiler:To provide a smokescreen for an illegal operation in Russia, they Barracuda may have crossed so many times that it's difficult to mention a team of Arab terrorists they secretly trained for taking out targets inside friendly countries hijack a passenger plane and attempt a suicide bombing on Moscow, only for single example; however, most could agree that his most monstrous actions were during his time in Nicaragua, where the plane to be shot down by corruption gave him the missile defenses.]]
chance to go completely wild. Other fans believe that he became completely unsympathetic when he kidnapped Frank's infant daughter with the intention of torturing her to death.
** Kingpin has one of the worst in the series. -- [[spoiler: Faced with his old enemies holding his son at knifepoint and forced to choose between saving his little boy's life and killing the last people standing in his way, he coldly shoots them, not showing a hint of emotion as his rival cuts the boy's throat. He then embraces his wife and tells her "''we can have another''"]]. Even allowing that Kingpin didn't actually had much of a choice there, Kingpin's ''reaction'' to the SadisticChoice was not IDidWhatIHadToDo or a DrowningMySorrows but rather a reflection on [[ItsAllAboutMe how much he didn't really love his son after all]].
** Bullseye takes it even further; he was created ''beyond'' the Moral Event Horizon.
** Nicky Cavella was at first just a more sadistic and efficient mafiosi than what Frank is used to, then he pissed on Frank's family's grave to cement how tasteless he is and his backstory revealed he killed his whole family at eight, just to show how depraved psychotic he was.
all]].


* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In ''In the Beginning'', Frank refuses to hunt terrorists for the CIA because he ''really'' wants to know how they'd pay for it; turns out the handler is already funding his operations with Afghan heroin. Ennis took a lot of heat from conservative reviewers for this, causing him to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking revisit]] the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking subject]] ''[[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped repeatedly]]'' in Comicbook/FuryMyWarGoneBy - and, well... [[http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053 see for yourself.]]



--> '''Nick Fury''': Fuck... we invent a war and we invade. And how many of them are dead now? Half a mil or something like that?
--> '''Frank Castle''': Depends on who you believe.
--> '''Fury''': Leaves a lot of pissed-off people with nothing to lose. I don't know what it'll be. Guy with something in a briefcase wandering into Times Square. A plane again. But we've got something coming, that I know.

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--> '''Nick Fury''': Fuck... we invent a war and we invade. And how many of them are dead now? Half a mil or something like that?
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that?\\
'''Frank Castle''': Depends on who you believe.
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believe.\\
'''Fury''': Leaves a lot of pissed-off people with nothing to lose. I don't know what it'll be. Guy with something in a briefcase wandering into Times Square. A plane again. But we've got something coming, that I know.



* UnintentionallySympathetic: Zakharov is introduced as the OnlySaneMan who sees through the "Arab terrorists" deception and is later seen luring Castle to Afghanistan to capture him so the generals' plot can be revealed. He's also seen killing a nosy reporter, is willing to wipe out a village to capture Frank, and we get to see how he earned his Man of Stone nickname... but he displays a lot of EvilVirtues, and of course the fact that he's up against ''[[HateSink Rawlins]]'' automatically makes him look better in comparison. [[spoiler:Frank gives him a MercyKill when he could just as easily left him to bake to death.]]

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Zakharov is introduced as the OnlySaneMan who sees through the "Arab terrorists" deception and is later seen luring Castle to Afghanistan to capture him so the generals' plot can be revealed. He's also seen killing a nosy reporter, is willing to wipe out a village to capture Frank, and we get to see how he earned his Man of Stone nickname... but he displays a lot of EvilVirtues, and of course the fact that he's up against ''[[HateSink Rawlins]]'' automatically makes him look better in comparison. [[spoiler:Frank gives him a MercyKill when he could just as easily left him to bake to death.]]death]].
* VindicatedByHistory: Back when Ennis started writing the series, conservative reviewers went '''[[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134145/posts BATSHIT]]''' over "Liberal Punisher"; a key element of "In the Beginning", was Frank refusing to hunt Bin Laden for the CIA. He refers to his Vietnam war days as the last he'd ever waste fighting for the government, but what ''really'' set him off was wondering how the CIA could possibly pay for such an operation, let alone do it quietly enough to use a mass-murdering vigilante like himself as a catspaw. Later, Micro confirms Frank's suspicions; when Coalition forces opened up Afghanistan, the military gained access to world's primary opium producing areas -- Bethell planned to fund Frank's operations by trafficking Afghan heroin. Ennis based this on historical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking allegations of CIA_drug trafficking]] in Vietnam and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking Nicaragua]], and revisited it in Comicbook/FuryMyWarGoneBy as he felt [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped felt the need to say]] "Yes, this ''really did happen!''" In TheNewTens, he was proven to be prescient; not only did the [[http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053 US military traffic in heroin]], by doing so they ''[[https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/09/how-the-heroin-trade-explains-the-us-uk-failure-in-afghanistan completely converted the country's economy to its production!]]''


** Nicolas Cavella, a smug mob chump who had the ''ingenious'' idea of digging up the remains of Frank's family and ''urinating on them'', then releasing footage of this to the news media in the hopes of infuriating Castle. [[{{UnderStatement}} This goes over about as well as you would imagine]]. For starters, ''it doesn't even work'': instead of going after Cavella, Frank instead murders the hell out of everyone ''but'' Cavella, demanding that the city re-bury his family's remains or he'll keep murder-spreeing until they do. When they finally do bury the remains, ''then'' Frank goes after Cavella, [[TranquilFury completely calm]] and '''''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge utterly vindictive]]'''''. Cavella spent the intervening time oscillating between gloating that the Punisher was terrified of him and doing his work of taking out other gangs, and batshit paranoid that Frank was going to kill him at any second.

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** Nicolas Cavella, a smug mob chump who had the ''ingenious'' idea of digging up the remains of Frank's family and ''urinating on them'', then releasing footage of this to the news media in the hopes of infuriating Castle. [[{{UnderStatement}} This goes over about as well as you would imagine]].imagine. For starters, ''it doesn't even work'': instead of going after Cavella, Frank instead murders the hell out of everyone ''but'' Cavella, demanding that the city re-bury his family's remains or he'll keep murder-spreeing until they do. When they finally do bury the remains, ''then'' Frank goes after Cavella, [[TranquilFury completely calm]] and '''''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge utterly vindictive]]'''''. Cavella spent the intervening time oscillating between gloating that the Punisher was terrified of him and doing his work of taking out other gangs, and batshit paranoid that Frank was going to kill him at any second.


* EvilIsCool: Although the writers may not have [[MisaimedFandom intended for this effect,]] it's hard not to find the more charismatic villains in the series (particularly Barracuda, the Kingpin, and Bullseye) to be extraordinarily badass, even if they are vile and deranged human beings.


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* LoveToHate: Although the writers may not have [[MisaimedFandom intended for this effect,]] it's hard not to find the more charismatic villains in the series (such as Tiberiu Bulat, Barracuda, the Kingpin, and Bullseye) to be extraordinarily badass, even if they are [[AxCrazy vile and deranged psychopaths]].


* AwesomeArt: This series really couldn't have chosen a better cover artist than Tim Bradstreet. The man's cover art is truly a sight to behold, haunting and mesmerizing at the same time.

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This series really couldn't have chosen a better cover artist than Tim Bradstreet. The man's cover art is truly a sight to behold, haunting and mesmerizing at the same time.

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* GeniusBonus: During Garth Ennis' run the series was ''rife'' with these. Featuring everything from well researched military history, real world crime, geopolitics, in-depth descriptions of firearms and the damage that the human anatomy takes when under extreme duress. The best example of this would be during the Kitchen Irish arc where one of character gives what is essentially an abridged history of the conflict in Northern Ireland, complete with references to the Good Friday Agreement and so forth.


* MagnificentBastard: Frank Castle, ComicBook/ThePunisher, has waged a one man war on crime for decades as a way to punish both the guilty and himself. At one point, Frank even gets himself arrested and sent to Riker's Island, just so he can put into play a scheme to murder the men who killed his family. Constantly demonstrating a wicked intelligence, Frank constantly manipulates criminals into traps and [[OutGambitted Out-Gambits]] others who try to get the best of him, before finishing his enemies off, not afraid to expose himself to injury, torture or death in the process. Even when faced with the unexpected, Frank is constantly able to rebound and get the better of his enemies, often tolerated by the police for his inflexible moral standards even as he leaves a [[PayEvilUntoEvil mountain of guilty corpses behind him]]. In the final arc, Frank goes against ComicBook/TheKingpin himself, who now owns the criminal underworld of New York, deprived of much of his own former assets, and ends up completely destroying his operation before finishing him off, remarking only "Your city, my world."

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* MagnificentBastard: Frank Castle, ComicBook/ThePunisher, [[Characters/ThePunisherMAXThePunisher The Punisher]], has waged a one man war on crime for decades as a way to punish both the guilty and himself. At one point, Frank even gets himself arrested and sent to Riker's Island, just so he can put into play a scheme to murder the men who killed his family. Constantly demonstrating a wicked intelligence, Frank constantly manipulates criminals into traps and [[OutGambitted Out-Gambits]] others who try to get the best of him, before finishing his enemies off, not afraid to expose himself to injury, torture or death in the process. Even when faced with the unexpected, Frank is constantly able to rebound and get the better of his enemies, often tolerated by the police for his inflexible moral standards even as he leaves a [[PayEvilUntoEvil mountain of guilty corpses behind him]]. In the final arc, Frank goes against ComicBook/TheKingpin himself, who now owns the criminal underworld of New York, deprived of much of his own former assets, and ends up completely destroying his operation before finishing him off, remarking only "Your city, my world."

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