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** Carla Maria Peroni, despite appearing on the poster, plays a small part in the movie and disappears following her seduction of Jerilee. This is a shame, as aside from Jerilee appearing uncomfortable at Carla coming onto her (which given the treatment Jerilee has received through the course of the film, is a reaction she would've given to ''anybody''), she actually treats her better than most of her male partners.
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** Carla Maria Peroni, despite appearing on the poster, plays a small part in the movie and disappears following her seduction of Jerilee. This is a shame, as aside from Jerilee appearing uncomfortable at Carla coming onto her (which given the treatment Jerilee has received through the course of the film, film from her romantic partners, is a reaction she would've given to ''anybody''), ''anybody'' coming onto her), she actually treats her better than most of her male partners.
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** Carla Maria Peroni, despite appearing on the poster, plays a small part in the movie and disappears following her seduction of Jerilee. This is a shame, as she treats her better than most of her male partners.
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** Carla Maria Peroni, despite appearing on the poster, plays a small part in the movie and disappears following her seduction of Jerilee. This is a shame, as aside from Jerilee appearing uncomfortable at Carla coming onto her (which given the treatment Jerilee has received through the course of the film, is a reaction she would've given to ''anybody''), she actually treats her better than most of her male partners.
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* HarsherInHindsight: ...or HilariousInHindsight, depending on your SlidingScaleOfCynicismVersusIdealism. The movie follows [[TheIngenue a talented, promising ingenue]] who finds herself in one sleazy, exploitive relationship after another until she walks away from Hollywood for good. It's an eerie echo of the career arc of Zadora herself, who started off as a promising child actress only to end up in one sleazy, exploitive role after another until she walked away from Hollywood for good (in no small part due to this film).
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* HarsherInHindsight: ...or HilariousInHindsight, depending on your SlidingScaleOfCynicismVersusIdealism. HarsherInHindsight: The movie follows [[TheIngenue a talented, promising ingenue]] who finds herself in one sleazy, exploitive relationship after another until she walks away from Hollywood for good. It's an eerie echo of the career arc of Zadora herself, who started off as a promising child actress only to end up in one sleazy, exploitive role after another until she walked away from Hollywood for good (in no small part due to this film).
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* {{Narm}}: The entire film.
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* ValuesResonance: A lot of the film's points about Hollywood having serious problems with sexual misconduct -- perpetrated by men and women alike -- actually come across as being very valid in the wake of the [=#MeToo=] movement. In practice, however, the film depicts this in such an absurd way that the message is almost totally obscured.
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** A lot of the film's points about Hollywood having serious problems with sexual misconduct -- perpetrated by men and women alike -- actually come across as being very valid in the wake of the [=#MeToo=] movement. In practice, however, the film depicts this in such an absurd way that the message is almost totallyobscured.obscured.
** Jerilee's behavior and decisions throughout the movie make a lot of sense now that trauma is more understood. Disassociation (which can come off as DullSurprise) and being an ExtremeDoormat are things commonly seen in trauma survivors.
** A lot of the film's points about Hollywood having serious problems with sexual misconduct -- perpetrated by men and women alike -- actually come across as being very valid in the wake of the [=#MeToo=] movement. In practice, however, the film depicts this in such an absurd way that the message is almost totally
** Jerilee's behavior and decisions throughout the movie make a lot of sense now that trauma is more understood. Disassociation (which can come off as DullSurprise) and being an ExtremeDoormat are things commonly seen in trauma survivors.
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* HarsherInHindsight: ...or HilariousInHindsight, depending on your SlidingScaleOfCynicismVersusIdealism. The movie follows [[TheIngenue a talented, promising ingenue]] who finds herself in one sleazy, exploitive relationship after another until she walks away from Hollywood for good. It's an eerie echo of the career arc of Zadora herself, who started off as a promising child actress only to end up in one sleazy, exploitive role after another until she walked away from Hollywood for good (in no small part due to this film).
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Carla Maria Peroni, despite appearing on the poster, plays a small part in the movie and disappears following her seduction of Jerilee. This is a shame, as she treats her better than most of her male partners.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Carla Maria Peroni, despite appearing on the poster, plays a small part in the movie and disappears following her seduction of Jerilee. This is a shame, as she treats her better than most of her malepartners.partners.
** Guy Jackson, the only person in the film who treats Jerilee like a human being, is so refreshingly average (compared to all the other characters) that he comes out the other side as charming and memorable. He has a larger part than Carla Maria but is ultimately unimportant to the plot.
** Carla Maria Peroni, despite appearing on the poster, plays a small part in the movie and disappears following her seduction of Jerilee. This is a shame, as she treats her better than most of her male
** Guy Jackson, the only person in the film who treats Jerilee like a human being, is so refreshingly average (compared to all the other characters) that he comes out the other side as charming and memorable. He has a larger part than Carla Maria but is ultimately unimportant to the plot.
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* TheWoobie: Technically averted. Jerilee goes through all sorts of crap and fits the bill of a "Woobie" to a tee, but [[EightDeadlyWords the audience may find it hard to care]].
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: As silly as most of the film is, Jerilee using her award win to deliver a brutal and profane TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to the entire entertainment industry is hard not to cheer for, and in the wake of Me Too comes off as far ahead of its time.
* EsotericHappyEnding: As Mister X pointed out in [[https://geekjuicemedia.com/?s=the+lonely+lady Geek Juice's Random Riff of the film]], Jerillee's shocking speech would likely result in her career in Hollywood being sunk and her life being worse.
* EsotericHappyEnding: As Mister X pointed out in [[https://geekjuicemedia.com/?s=the+lonely+lady Geek Juice's Random Riff of the film]], Jerillee's shocking speech would likely result in her career in Hollywood being sunk and her life being worse.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: As silly as most of the film is, when Jerilee using uses her award win to deliver a brutal and profane TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to the entire entertainment industry industry, it is hard not to cheer for, and in for her. In the wake of the Me Too movement, the scene comes off as far ahead of its time.
* EsotericHappyEnding: As Mister X pointed out in [[https://geekjuicemedia.com/?s=the+lonely+lady Geek Juice's Random Riff of the film]], Jerillee's shocking speech would likely result in her career in Hollywood being sunk and her life being worse. But the film implies that reclaiming her own life and publicly confronting her abusers is well-worth the cost of her career.
* EsotericHappyEnding: As Mister X pointed out in [[https://geekjuicemedia.com/?s=the+lonely+lady Geek Juice's Random Riff of the film]], Jerillee's shocking speech would likely result in her career in Hollywood being sunk and her life being worse. But the film implies that reclaiming her own life and publicly confronting her abusers is well-worth the cost of her career.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Mrs. Randall is like the worst mother ever to Jerilee and ''the movie does not see it''.
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* ValuesResonance: A lot of the film's points about Hollywood having serious problems with sexual misconduct -- perpetrated by men and women alike -- actually come across as being very valid in the wake of the [=#MeToo=] movement, at least in principle. In practice, however, the film depicts this in such an absurd way that the message is almost totally obscured.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Mrs. Randall is like the worst Jerilee's mother ever is a terrible person on almost every level, attempting to downplay and undermine her daughter's gift for writing and even--and most unforgivably--convincing Jerilee not to report her own sexual assault because of the embarrassment it will be for to the family ''and for her rapist''...and ''the the movie does not see it''.
treats her as if she's being reasonable and protective of her daughter.
* ValuesResonance: A lot of the film's points about Hollywood having serious problems with sexual misconduct -- perpetrated by men and women alike -- actually come across as being very valid in the wake of the [=#MeToo=]movement, at least in principle.movement. In practice, however, the film depicts this in such an absurd way that the message is almost totally obscured.
* ValuesResonance: A lot of the film's points about Hollywood having serious problems with sexual misconduct -- perpetrated by men and women alike -- actually come across as being very valid in the wake of the [=#MeToo=]
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* ValuesResonance: A lot of the film's points about how women tend to be mistreated in Hollywood -- even by other women -- actually come across as being very valid in the wake of the [=#MeToo=] movement, at least in principle. In practice, however, the film depicts this in such an absurd way that the message is almost totally obscured.
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* ValuesResonance: A lot of the film's points about how women tend to be mistreated in Hollywood having serious problems with sexual misconduct -- even perpetrated by other men and women alike -- actually come across as being very valid in the wake of the [=#MeToo=] movement, at least in principle. In practice, however, the film depicts this in such an absurd way that the message is almost totally obscured.
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* PolishTheTurd: In a subversion, Usefulnotes/GoldenRaspberryAward founder [[https://books.google.com/books?id=bLpJHjGFNk8C&pg=PT231 John Wilson says one of his proudest achievements as a publicist]] is working in the ''The Lonely Lady'' campaign knowing he would later shower the movie with Razzies. In a straighter example, he says Universal attempted some polishing after a disastrous test screening - but Wilson was still able to convince the producers not to cut [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbn39Gocero the infamous breakdown scene]], a bizarre clip he frequently shows in the Razzie ceremonies!
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* EsotericHappyEnding: As Mister X pointed out in [[https://geekjuicemedia.com/?s=the+lonely+lady Geek Juice's Random Riff of the film]], Jerillee's shocking speech would likely result in her career in Hollywood being sunk and her life being worse.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Carla Maria Peroni, despite appearing on the poster, plays a small part in the movie and disappears following her seduction of Jerilee. This is a shame, as she treats her better than most of her male partners.
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* AwesomeMoments: As silly as most of the film is, Jerilee using her award win to deliver a brutal and profane TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to the entire entertainment industry is hard not to cheer for, and in the wake of Me Too comes off as far ahead of its time.
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* AwesomeMoments: SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: As silly as most of the film is, Jerilee using her award win to deliver a brutal and profane TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to the entire entertainment industry is hard not to cheer for, and in the wake of Me Too comes off as far ahead of its time.
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* AwesomeMoments: As silly as most of the film is, Jerilee using her award win to deliver a brutal and profane TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to the entire entertainment industry is hard not to cheer for, and in the wake of Me Too comes off as far ahead of its time.
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* TheWoobie: Technically averted. Jerilee goes through all sorts of crap and fits the bill of a "Woobie" to a tee, but the audience may find it hard to care.
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* TheWoobie: Technically averted. Jerilee goes through all sorts of crap and fits the bill of a "Woobie" to a tee, but [[EightDeadlyWords the audience may find it hard to care. care]].
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* JustForFun/XMeetsY:[[invoked]] While on the promotional circuit, Pia Zadora repeatedly described this movie as a cross between ''Film/{{Rocky}}'' and ''{{Film/Emmanuelle}}''.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/RayLiotta makes his film debut as Joe Heron.
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* ValuesResonance: A lot of the film's points about how women tend to be mistreated in Hollywood -- even by other women -- actually come across as being very valid in the wake of the [=#MeToo=] movement, at least in principle. In practice, however, the film depicts this in such an absurd way that the message is almost totally obscured.
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* PolishTheTurd: In a subversion, Usefulnotes/GoldenRaspberryAward founder [[https://books.google.com/books?id=bLpJHjGFNk8C&pg=PT231 John Wilson says one of his proudest achievements as a publicist]] is working in the ''The Lonely Lady'' campaign knowing he would later shower the movie with Razzies. In a straighter example, he says Universal attempted some polishing after a disastrous test screening - but Wilson was still able to convince the producers not to cut the infamous breakdown scene, a bizarre clip he frequently shows in the Razzie ceremonies!
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* PolishTheTurd: In a subversion, Usefulnotes/GoldenRaspberryAward founder [[https://books.google.com/books?id=bLpJHjGFNk8C&pg=PT231 John Wilson says one of his proudest achievements as a publicist]] is working in the ''The Lonely Lady'' campaign knowing he would later shower the movie with Razzies. In a straighter example, he says Universal attempted some polishing after a disastrous test screening - but Wilson was still able to convince the producers not to cut [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbn39Gocero the infamous breakdown scene, scene]], a bizarre clip he frequently shows in the Razzie ceremonies!
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* PolishTheTurd: In a subversion, Usefulnotes/GoldenRaspberryAward founder [[https://books.google.com/books?id=bLpJHjGFNk8C&pg=PT231 John Wilson says one of his proudest achievements as a publicist]] is working in the ''The Lonely Lady'' campaign knowing he would later shower the movie with Razzies. In a straighter example, he says Universal attempted some polishing after a disastrous test screening - but Wilson was still able to convince the producers not to cut the infamous breakdown scene, a bizarre clip he frequently shows in the Razzie ceremonies!
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* TheWoobie: Technically averted. Jerilee goes through all sorts of crap and fits the bill of a "Woobie" to a tee, [[EightDeadlyWords but the audience just finds may find it really hard to give a rat's ass...]]care.
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* SoBadItsGood: It's been called the ''Film/{{Showgirls}}'' of TheEighties for a reason.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Basically the movie says that every single woman who has made it big in Hollywood--whether as an actress or a writer--has done so by flopping on her back and spreading her legs.
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* TheWoobie: Technically averted. Jerilee goes through all sorts of crap and fits the bill of a "Woobie" to a tee, but the audience just finds it really hard to give a rat's ass...
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* HollywoodHomely: Jerilee for the first half hour or so. Her frumpy dresses and pigtails do little to mask the fact that she's quite pretty.
* {{Narm}}: The entire film.
--> "If I write for anyone, Vinnie, I write for ''MMEEEEEE!!!''"
* UnfortunateImplications: Basically the movie says that every single woman who has made it big in Hollywood--whether as an actress or a writer--has done so by flopping on her back and spreading her legs.
* {{Narm}}: The entire film.
--> "If I write for anyone, Vinnie, I write for ''MMEEEEEE!!!''"
* UnfortunateImplications: Basically the movie says that every single woman who has made it big in Hollywood--whether as an actress or a writer--has done so by flopping on her back and spreading her legs.