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* HilariousInHindsight: when Bella in ''Beauty and the Werewolf'' first learns about the Tradition, she thinks she's stumbled into 'the Monster in the Labyrinth', with Sebastian doubling roles as both the Magician (Daedalus) and the Monster (the minotaur). Elena informs her that she's actually living out 'the Monster and the Maiden' (ie Beauty and the Beast). But for Bella, this is actually a good thing: it means that since there is no room whatsoever for the Maiden to become a Monster herself, the Tradition will ensure that she isn't infected with Sebastian's lycanthropy. But now, for those of us playing at home... anyone remember how things ended in '''Shrek'''?

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\n* HilariousInHindsight: when When Bella in ''Beauty and the Werewolf'' first learns about the Tradition, she thinks she's stumbled into 'the Monster in the Labyrinth', with Sebastian doubling roles as both the Magician (Daedalus) and the Monster (the minotaur). Elena informs her that she's actually living out 'the Monster and the Maiden' (ie Beauty and the Beast). But for Bella, this is actually a good thing: it means that since there is no room whatsoever for the Maiden to become a Monster herself, the Tradition will ensure that she isn't infected with Sebastian's lycanthropy. But now, for those of us playing at home... anyone remember how things ended in '''Shrek'''?
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* CompleteMonster: ''One Good Knight'' brings us [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Cassiopeia]], who conspires with her [[EvilChancellor adviser]], [[EvilSorcerer Solon]], to [[WeatherManipulation summon storms to wrack the coast of her country]], sinking dozens of ships and drowning hundreds of sailors so that she can claim the salvage for the crown. When her citizenry become dissatisfied with her rule, Cassiopeia has Solon mind control the (otherwise harmless) dragon Adamant, forcing him to ravage the countryside, so that she may set up a {{lottery|Of Doom}} and feed the daughters of her political enemies to the dragon. After her own daughter, Andromeda, begins to suspect that someone is controlling the storms, Cassiopeia arranges (in a move that [[EvenEvilHasStandards revolts even Solon]]) to [[OffingTheOffspring have her sacrificed to the dragon]], and take advantage of the [[WoundedGazelleGambit public wave of sympathy that will follow]]. Totally convinced that the common folk should just put up with her capricious rule, Cassiopeia is plotting to [[spoiler: have Solon assassinated when he [[TheStarscream finally makes his own move against her]], ending her role in the story]].

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* CompleteMonster: ''One Good Knight'' brings us [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Cassiopeia]], who conspires with her [[EvilChancellor adviser]], [[EvilSorcerer Solon]], to [[WeatherManipulation summon storms to wrack the coast of her country]], sinking dozens of ships and drowning hundreds of sailors so that she can claim the salvage for the crown. When her citizenry become dissatisfied with her rule, Cassiopeia has Solon mind control the (otherwise harmless) dragon Adamant, forcing him to ravage the countryside, so that she may set up a {{lottery|Of Doom}} and feed the daughters of her political enemies to the dragon. After her own daughter, Andromeda, begins to suspect that someone is controlling the storms, Cassiopeia arranges (in a move that [[EvenEvilHasStandards revolts even Solon]]) to [[OffingTheOffspring have her sacrificed to the dragon]], and take advantage of the [[WoundedGazelleGambit public wave of sympathy that will follow]]. Totally convinced that the common folk should just put up with her capricious rule, Cassiopeia is plotting to [[spoiler: have Solon assassinated when he [[TheStarscream finally makes his own move against her]], ending her role in the story]].story]].

* HilariousInHindsight: when Bella in ''Beauty and the Werewolf'' first learns about the Tradition, she thinks she's stumbled into 'the Monster in the Labyrinth', with Sebastian doubling roles as both the Magician (Daedalus) and the Monster (the minotaur). Elena informs her that she's actually living out 'the Monster and the Maiden' (ie Beauty and the Beast). But for Bella, this is actually a good thing: it means that since there is no room whatsoever for the Maiden to become a Monster herself, the Tradition will ensure that she isn't infected with Sebastian's lycanthropy. But now, for those of us playing at home... anyone remember how things ended in '''Shrek'''?

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* CompleteMonster: ''One Good Knight'' brings us [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Cassiopeia]], who conspires with her [[EvilChancellor adviser]], [[EvilSorcerer Solon]], to [[WeatherManipulation summon storms to wrack the coast of her country]], sinking dozens of ships and drowning hundreds of sailors so that she can claim the salvage for the crown. When her citizenry become dissatisfied with her rule, Cassiopeia has Solon mind control the (otherwise harmless) dragon Adamant, forcing him to ravage the countryside, so that she may set up a {{lottery|Of Doom}} and feed the daughters of her political enemies to the dragon. After her own daughter, Andromeda, begins to suspect that someone is controlling the storms, Cassiopeia arranges (in a move that [[EvenEvilHasStandards revolts even Solon]]) to [[OffingTheOffspring have her sacrificed to the dragon]], and take advantage of the [[WoundedGazelleGambit public wave of sympathy that will follow]]. Totally convinced that the common folk should just put up with her capricious rule, Cassiopeia is plotting to have Solon assassinated when he [[TheStarscream finally makes his own move against her]], ending her role in the story.

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* CompleteMonster: ''One Good Knight'' brings us [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Cassiopeia]], who conspires with her [[EvilChancellor adviser]], [[EvilSorcerer Solon]], to [[WeatherManipulation summon storms to wrack the coast of her country]], sinking dozens of ships and drowning hundreds of sailors so that she can claim the salvage for the crown. When her citizenry become dissatisfied with her rule, Cassiopeia has Solon mind control the (otherwise harmless) dragon Adamant, forcing him to ravage the countryside, so that she may set up a {{lottery|Of Doom}} and feed the daughters of her political enemies to the dragon. After her own daughter, Andromeda, begins to suspect that someone is controlling the storms, Cassiopeia arranges (in a move that [[EvenEvilHasStandards revolts even Solon]]) to [[OffingTheOffspring have her sacrificed to the dragon]], and take advantage of the [[WoundedGazelleGambit public wave of sympathy that will follow]]. Totally convinced that the common folk should just put up with her capricious rule, Cassiopeia is plotting to [[spoiler: have Solon assassinated when he [[TheStarscream finally makes his own move against her]], ending her role in the story.story]].

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*CompleteMonster: ''One Good Knight'' brings us [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Cassiopeia]], who conspires with her [[EvilChancellor adviser]], [[EvilSorcerer Solon]], to [[WeatherManipulation summon storms to wrack the coast of her country]], sinking dozens of ships and drowning hundreds of sailors so that she can claim the salvage for the crown. When her citizenry become dissatisfied with her rule, Cassiopeia has Solon mind control the (otherwise harmless) dragon Adamant, forcing him to ravage the countryside, so that she may set up a {{lottery|Of Doom}} and feed the daughters of her political enemies to the dragon. After her own daughter, Andromeda, begins to suspect that someone is controlling the storms, Cassiopeia arranges (in a move that [[EvenEvilHasStandards revolts even Solon]]) to [[OffingTheOffspring have her sacrificed to the dragon]], and take advantage of the [[WoundedGazelleGambit public wave of sympathy that will follow]]. Totally convinced that the common folk should just put up with her capricious rule, Cassiopeia is plotting to have Solon assassinated when he [[TheStarscream finally makes his own move against her]], ending her role in the story.
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* CompleteMonster
** A lot of the villains, by way of the Tradition. Arguably the Tradition itself, though that seems to operate more under BlueAndOrangeMorality.
** Yeah. What offends and angers the protagonists is that the Tradition just doesn't ''care''. It has no preference for what the all-too-human characters want -- it is just as satisfied with tragedy as with a happy ending, and it ''uses'' people, pressing them into the most convenient roles without any consideration for the lives they've tried to build up until that point.
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** Yeah. What offends and angers the protagonists is that the Tradition just doesn't ''care''. It has no preference for what the all-too-human characters want -- it is just as satisfied with tragedy as with a happy ending, and it ''uses'' people, pressing them into the most convenient roles without any consideration for the lives they've tried to build up until that point.
* PlotInducedStupidity
** An ''in-universe'' example. Some fairy tales rely on characters picking up the IdiotBall, so the Tradition can sometimes force characters into doing stupid things. (Usually minor ones, though. Case in point: the husband of the former fair Rosalind character who was getting set up to be the mother of a Rapunzel ''knew'' the mysterious woman who moved in next door to them was a really bad idea to mess with, but such was the power of the Tradition that he ended up stealing from her garden ''anyway''.)

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** Yeah. What offends and angers the protagonists is that the Tradition just doesn't ''care''. It has no preference for what the all-too-human characters want -- it is just as satisfied with tragedy as with a happy ending, and it ''uses'' people, pressing them into the most convenient roles without any consideration for the lives they've tried to build up until that point.
* PlotInducedStupidity
** An ''in-universe'' example. Some fairy tales rely on characters picking up the IdiotBall, so the Tradition can sometimes force characters into doing stupid things. (Usually minor ones, though. Case in point: the husband of the former fair Rosalind character who was getting set up to be the mother of a Rapunzel ''knew'' the mysterious woman who moved in next door to them was a really bad idea to mess with, but such was the power of the Tradition that he ended up stealing from her garden ''anyway''.)
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** Yeah. What offends and angers the protagonists is that the Tradition just doesn't ''care''. It has no preference for what the all-too-human characters want -- it is just as satisfied with tragedy as with a happy ending, and it ''uses'' people, pressing them into the most convenient roles without any consideration for the lives they've tried to build up until that point.

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** Yeah. What offends and angers the protagonists is that the Tradition just doesn't ''care''. It has no preference for what the all-too-human characters want -- it is just as satisfied with tragedy as with a happy ending, and it ''uses'' people, pressing them into the most convenient roles without any consideration for the lives they've tried to build up until that point.point.
*PlotInducedStupidity
**An ''in-universe'' example. Some fairy tales rely on characters picking up the IdiotBall, so the Tradition can sometimes force characters into doing stupid things. (Usually minor ones, though. Case in point: the husband of the former fair Rosalind character who was getting set up to be the mother of a Rapunzel ''knew'' the mysterious woman who moved in next door to them was a really bad idea to mess with, but such was the power of the Tradition that he ended up stealing from her garden ''anyway''.)
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** A lot of the villains, by way of the Tradition. Arguably the Tradition itself, though that seems to operate more under BlueAndOrangeMorality.

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** A lot of the villains, by way of the Tradition. Arguably the Tradition itself, though that seems to operate more under BlueAndOrangeMorality.BlueAndOrangeMorality.
** Yeah. What offends and angers the protagonists is that the Tradition just doesn't ''care''. It has no preference for what the all-too-human characters want -- it is just as satisfied with tragedy as with a happy ending, and it ''uses'' people, pressing them into the most convenient roles without any consideration for the lives they've tried to build up until that point.
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Speel-chuck. Also, Tradition is capitalized, but the is not.


** Alot of the villains, by way of The Tradition. Arguable The Tradition itself, though that seems to opperate more under BlueAndOrangeMorality.

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** Alot A lot of the villains, by way of The the Tradition. Arguable The Arguably the Tradition itself, though that seems to opperate operate more under BlueAndOrangeMorality.

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