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* TierInducedScrappy: Some "Full Upgrade Bonuses" and "Ace Bonuses" for mecha and characters, respectively, are quite weird in ''UX''.
** [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Kenji Kondou's Mark Acht]] gains EN +150 as a Full Upgrade Bonus, except it primarily uses ammo-based weapons, whereas [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Mamoru Koudate's Mark Funf]] gets EN +50 and its attacks uses EN for a lot of things, such as a CombinationAttack that costs a plenty of EN. Naturally, you can see why it should be swapped around. Also, Kazuki's Level 3 "Assimilation" ability [[note]]When hit with an enemy attack, decrease enemy pilot's Will; when attacked and Will goes below a certain threshold, enemy will be absorbed and destroyed. Recover HP/EN; the effect increases the higher the pilot's Will[[/note]] in the Mark Sein can only be used against enemy Festum. While he ''could'' use it to assimilate AI-controlled enemy {{mook}}s such as Shamans and Banks from Tobikage, Kazuki doesn't want to assimilate humans, ELS and Vajra; the same applies to [[spoiler:Kurusu]] if you manage to recruit him, though by that time, there are no longer any Festum to assimilate.
** Certain characters like [[Manga/LinebarrelsOfIron Miu]] have questionable Spirit Command sets: for her, she has "Strike" [[note]]Gain perfect accuracy for one turn[[/note]], "Alert" [[note]]Successfully evade the next attack[[/note]], "Accelerate" [[note]]Increase pilot's movement range by three upon movement[[/note]], "Justice" [[note]]Reduce EN, Magic Points, and ammo costs to zero for one turn[[/note]], and "Love" [[note]]Gain the effects of the Accelerate, Strike, Alert, Valor, Spirit, Gain and Luck Spirit Commands for one turn[[/note]], yet the latter has the effects of the first three. Her Painkiller has EN+ as a Full Upgrade Bonus, even though "Justice" can render EN costs moot, as well as the Painkiller's "Super Full Upgrade Bonus" via achieving an Ace/Super Ace status of Mobility +5, which is basically useless since she has "Alert". Finally, the Painkiller only has small HP regeneration compared to the [[Manga/LinebarrelsOfIron Hind Kind]] and Deceive. This could be a very strong case of {{Nerf}}.
** Setsuna's 00 Qan[T] uses EN for all of its attacks and the EN costs are no joke. Sure it has 25% EN regeneration, but that's not enough, and is most noticeable during the DownloadableContent campaign scenarios where you have no upgrades. Lockon's Zabanya (and Zabanya Full Equip) also uses EN for the majority of its stronger attacks. While he was originally a sniper, this is probably expected, but he does not learn "Justice", so you can't really use him much. However, Setsuna and Lockon are still considered the ones in the higher end of the tier list.
** As a footnote though, the design philosophy of the partner systems in ''UX'' (and by extension, ''L'') is to urge players to use usually-unused units in their teams, as less powerful units will have a better bonus, not to mention that drain EN from weapons is increased by a sheer amount since ''L'' to discourage a OneManArmy.
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** Any Festum successfully hitting an allied unit drops the pilot's Will and armor value. While these StatusEffects aren't such a big problem, the "demonic" part lies with all Festum units having an ability that grants them greater accuracy and evasion rates against ''non-Fafner units'' (and Manga/{{Heroman}}, despite his size rating).

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** Any Festum successfully hitting an allied unit drops the pilot's Will and armor value. While these StatusEffects aren't such a big problem, the "demonic" part lies with all Festum units having an ability that grants them greater accuracy and evasion rates against ''non-Fafner units'' (and Manga/{{Heroman}}, despite his size rating).(except Manga/{{Heroman}}).
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** [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Shinn Asuka]], the pilot of [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Fafner Mark Destiny]].[[note]]Post-''Anime/MobileGundamSEEDDestiny'' Shinn, who lost Stellar Louissier and Rey Za Burrel by canon, becomes a mentor figure to the ''Fafner'' cast in ''UX'', especially to Kazuki Makabe. Since ''SEED Destiny'' and ''Fafner'' has the same character designer, along with Shinn's SEED ability (which looks awfully akin to the assimilation effect for late-''Fafner'' Kazuki) and his Destiny Gundam, this makes him a perfect Festum buster like the Fafner pilots. It doesn't help that ''all'' events involving his Destiny Gundam (got damaged, receiving the repaired Destiny, and revealing his CombinationAttack with Lunamaria) in ''UX'' happened on Tatsumiyajima.[[/note]]

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** [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Shinn Asuka]], the pilot of [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Fafner Mark Destiny]].[[note]]Post-''Anime/MobileGundamSEEDDestiny'' [[note]]Post-''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' Shinn, who lost Stellar Louissier and Rey Za Burrel by canon, becomes a mentor figure to the ''Fafner'' cast in ''UX'', especially to Kazuki Makabe. Since ''SEED Destiny'' and ''Fafner'' has the same character designer, along with Shinn's SEED ability (which looks awfully akin to the assimilation effect for late-''Fafner'' Kazuki) and his Destiny Gundam, this makes him a perfect Festum buster like the Fafner pilots. It doesn't help that ''all'' events involving his Destiny Gundam (got damaged, receiving the repaired Destiny, and revealing his CombinationAttack with Lunamaria) in ''UX'' happened on Tatsumiyajima.[[/note]]
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** In the ''Manga/LinebarrelsOfIron'' manga's ending, the final fight against Deus Ex Machina started with [[spoiler: Katou spreading Override-jamming powder all over the battlefield, severely limiting what it could do.]] This meant that Deus' appearance in ''UX'' became the only time we see it fighting at full strength.

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* ThatOneBoss: Don't let the [[HeroicSecondWind full recovery event]] fool you, but [[spoiler:Kali Yuga]] is probably one of the hardest bosses for [=SRW=] handhelds. First off, all of her attacks inflict status effects (one of which will halve your pilot's stats), meaning without someone like [[VideoGame/VirtualOn Fei-Yen HD]] using her Tactician Bonus "Spiritual Fortitude" [[note]]Negate Spirit Point, stat and Will decrease and can still perform any action[[/note]], you're screwed. Second, due to most of your allied units' having a size rating from SS- to M- (with just a few being L-sized), [[spoiler:Kali Yuga]] towers with a size of ''3L'', which means dealing additional damage while receiving less in return. Combined with a list of pilot skills such as a max level "[[CriticalStatusBuff Prevail]]" [[note]]The lower the HP, the greater the increase to accuracy/evasion/critical/armor stats[[/note]], "Guard" [[note]]At 130 Will, -20% to damage received[[/note]] and "Counter" [[note]]Chance of attacking first before the enemy strikes first[[/note]], alongside high armor and stats for everything, even if you fully commit Spirit Commands against her, without a high enough evasion rate, she can attack first via Counter and reduce your attackers' stats by half, rendering their attacks next to useless. The catch of the fight is that you have to fight another boss unit beforehand (which is no cakewalk, either) ''and'' you have to deal 30% damage to [[spoiler:Kali Yuga]] in order to trigger the recovery event. Of course, no [=SRW=] boss is unbeatable, but due to the gameplay structure of ''UX'' (no equippable parts and fewer Spirit Points for sub-pilots), even [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Gaiou]] appears easier.

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* ThatOneBoss: Don't [[Manga/LinebarrelsOfIron Deus Ex Machina]] is a surprisingly tough boss. It can move twice in one turn, has Level 3 HP Regen, a MAP attack, and an attack that drains your energy and lowers your aim. Most frustratingly, it can dodge even guaranteed hits with Override. To top it all off, the first phase of his fight takes place after an event that causes your entire team to suffer -30 Morale, making your strongest attacks not immediately available.
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let the [[HeroicSecondWind full recovery event]] fool you, but [[spoiler:Kali Yuga]] is probably one of the hardest bosses for [=SRW=] handhelds. First off, all of her attacks inflict status effects (one of which will halve your pilot's stats), meaning without someone like [[VideoGame/VirtualOn Fei-Yen HD]] using her Tactician Bonus "Spiritual Fortitude" [[note]]Negate Spirit Point, stat and Will decrease and can still perform any action[[/note]], you're screwed. Second, due to most of your allied units' having a size rating from SS- to M- (with just a few being L-sized), [[spoiler:Kali Yuga]] towers with a size of ''3L'', which means dealing additional damage while receiving less in return. Combined with a list of pilot skills such as a max level "[[CriticalStatusBuff Prevail]]" [[note]]The lower the HP, the greater the increase to accuracy/evasion/critical/armor stats[[/note]], "Guard" [[note]]At 130 Will, -20% to damage received[[/note]] and "Counter" [[note]]Chance of attacking first before the enemy strikes first[[/note]], alongside high armor and stats for everything, even if you fully commit Spirit Commands against her, without a high enough evasion rate, she can attack first via Counter and reduce your attackers' stats by half, rendering their attacks next to useless. The catch of the fight is that you have to fight another boss unit beforehand (which is no cakewalk, either) ''and'' you have to deal 30% damage to [[spoiler:Kali Yuga]] in order to trigger the recovery event. Of course, no [=SRW=] boss is unbeatable, but due to the gameplay structure of ''UX'' (no equippable parts and fewer Spirit Points for sub-pilots), even [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Gaiou]] appears easier.

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This trope is for when Common Knowledge is wrong. It's not about Common Opinion not taking certain facts into account.


* CommonKnowledge: Back when the game was first announced, Western fans flipped when they saw that ''[[Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden SD Gundam Sangokuden: Brave Battle Warriors]]'' was part of the series cast. This is mostly due to ''Anime/SDGundamForce'' [[AmericansHateTingle leaving a bad taste in their mouths]], and as such [[SmallReferencePools wrote this off as more of the same]], as well as claim that it "doesn't fit" something like ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars''. What these fans didn't seem to realize is that ''Franchise/SDGundam'' as a whole is the reason ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' exists in the first place, as [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars1 the very first game]] was basically a ''Franchise/SDGundam'' game (Being an [[ExcusePlot extremely light plot]] with the mechs as characters), just with the ''Anime/MazingerZ'' and ''Manga/GetterRobo'' franchises added in. Hell, the first couple of ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' games used the ''Franchise/SDGundam'' designs for the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' mechs, until they shifted to designs more akin to the ''VideoGame/SDGundamGGeneration'' series starting with ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha Alpha]]''.
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** Any Festum successfully hitting an allied unit drops the pilot's Will and armor value. While these StandardStatusEffects aren't such a big problem, the "demonic" part lies with all Festum units having an ability that grants them greater accuracy and evasion rates against ''non-Fafner units'' (and Manga/{{Heroman}}, despite his size rating).

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** Any Festum successfully hitting an allied unit drops the pilot's Will and armor value. While these StandardStatusEffects StatusEffects aren't such a big problem, the "demonic" part lies with all Festum units having an ability that grants them greater accuracy and evasion rates against ''non-Fafner units'' (and Manga/{{Heroman}}, despite his size rating).
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** The FinalBoss, [[spoiler:Kali Yuga]], is [[spoiler:[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga based on a cycle of Hindu cosmology]], though it refers to the "age of vice", and has nothing to do with [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_(Demon) the apocalyptic demon "Kali"]] (as this Kali is a male) nor [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali the Hindu goddess "Kali"]]; instead, Banpresto borrowed the image of "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durga Durga]]", one of the possible manifestations of the goddess Kali. Like Durga, Kali Yuga has multiple arms, snakes and a trident as a weapon, just like what Durga is portrayed]].

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** The FinalBoss, [[spoiler:Kali Yuga]], Yuga, is [[spoiler:[[http://en.[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga based on a cycle of Hindu cosmology]], though it refers to the "age of vice", and has nothing to do with [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_(Demon) the apocalyptic demon "Kali"]] (as this Kali is a male) nor [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali the Hindu goddess "Kali"]]; instead, Banpresto Creator/{{Banpresto}} borrowed the image of "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durga Durga]]", one of the possible manifestations of the goddess Kali. Like Durga, Kali Yuga has multiple arms, snakes and a trident as a weapon, just like what how Durga is usually portrayed]].



** Jin Haganeya, the writer for ''VisualNovel/{{Demonbane}}'', admitted on his Twitter feed his first use of that name was naming the Grungust when playing ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars4'' as a kid.
--->Man, I can't even begin to imagine what expression I'd have had if I'd heard about this when I was a kid.

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** Jin Haganeya, the writer for ''VisualNovel/{{Demonbane}}'', admitted on his Twitter Website/{{Twitter}} feed his first use of that name was naming the Grungust when playing ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars4'' as a kid.
--->Man, --->[[https://twitter.com/J_hagane/status/278904466240057346?s=19 Man, I can't even begin to imagine what expression I'd have had if I'd heard about this when I was a kid.]]
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** The most well-known, but unexpected example happens on Scenario 23, "[[Anime/MacrossFrontier The False Songstress]]". This is your usual "defend a certain area" scenario (except half of the terrain is water) and it's mostly easy, until [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Ranka Lee]] is captured by a [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Hound Vajra]], adding the objective "reduce the Hound Vajra's HP to 10%". First off, it only has ''slightly'' better stats than other Vajra (it's one of the late-game {{mook}}s), so accidents do happen if one doesn't check its HP first (for example, Jin Hagane, the writer of ''VisualNovel/{{Demonbane}}'', [[https://twitter.com/J_hagane/status/314305807334379520 had personally kicked Ranka to hell via an Atlantis Strike]]). Second, if you accidentally summon [[Anime/NinjaSenshiTobikage Tobikage]] to the field, due to its AI patterns, it'll directly go for that Hound Vajira and achieve a OneHitKO. Third, even if you don't summon the Tobikage, [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Brera Stern]], who is supposed to help you as an NPC, will do the same thing to Ranka if you don't act fast enough. This scenario is so frustrating it has created numerous new memes, like "Killing Ranka without mercy", "Victory Condition Thief" for Tobikage[[note]]In addition to its infamy of stealing your credits, experience and conditions to unlock secrets[[/note]], and "Ranka Slayer" for Tobikage and Brera.

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** The most well-known, but unexpected example happens on Scenario 23, "[[Anime/MacrossFrontier The False Songstress]]". This is your usual "defend a certain area" scenario (except half of the terrain is water) and it's mostly easy, until [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Ranka Lee]] is captured by a [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Hound Vajra]], adding the objective "reduce the Hound Vajra's HP to 10%". First off, it only has ''slightly'' better stats than other Vajra (it's one of the late-game {{mook}}s), so accidents do happen if one doesn't check its HP first (for example, Jin Hagane, Haganeya, the writer of ''VisualNovel/{{Demonbane}}'', [[https://twitter.com/J_hagane/status/314305807334379520 had personally kicked Ranka to hell via an Atlantis Strike]]). Second, if you accidentally summon [[Anime/NinjaSenshiTobikage Tobikage]] to the field, due to its AI patterns, it'll directly go for that Hound Vajira and achieve a OneHitKO. Third, even if you don't summon the Tobikage, [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Brera Stern]], who is supposed to help you as an NPC, will do the same thing to Ranka if you don't act fast enough. This scenario is so frustrating it has created numerous new memes, like "Killing Ranka without mercy", "Victory Condition Thief" for Tobikage[[note]]In addition to its infamy of stealing your credits, experience and conditions to unlock secrets[[/note]], and "Ranka Slayer" for Tobikage and Brera.

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