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* EvilIsSexy: Dante is definitely this for some fans.
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** [[spoiler:Hilda, the supposed BigBad, is GoodAllAlong, and she and the other Harbingers joining the party. Simultaneously, Klaus being the true BigBad (or a possessed avatar of the true villain)]]. This is especially true if you've played the VideoGame/LuminousArc games, which tend to feature [[spoiler:Witches being GoodAllAlong alongside GodIsEvil- in particular, Hilda is an {{Expy}} of Fatima, who had a similar twist involving her]]. The only real surprise is that [[spoiler:Hrodulf dies before he gets to join, but even that isn't hugely shocking]].

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** [[spoiler:Hilda, the supposed BigBad, is GoodAllAlong, and she and the other Harbingers joining the party. Simultaneously, Klaus being the true BigBad (or a possessed avatar of the true villain)]]. This is especially true if you've played the VideoGame/LuminousArc ''VideoGame/LuminousArc'' games, which tend to feature [[spoiler:Witches being GoodAllAlong alongside GodIsEvil- in particular, Hilda is an {{Expy}} of Fatima, who had a similar twist involving her]]. The only real surprise is that [[spoiler:Hrodulf dies before he gets to join, but even that isn't hugely shocking]].



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Despite featuring cute magical girls that like to sing (though in one's case, she is actually evil) and the many cutesy character designs, it was given a T Rating from the ESRB regardless. This is because a central gameplay mechanic and story element revolves around what is pretty overtly intended to be a metaphor for sex, characters regularly get drunk at the local tavern, and the script is littered with innuendo. Not to mention having a really dark storyline and themes.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Despite featuring cute magical girls that like to sing (though in one's case, she is actually evil) and the many cutesy character designs, it was given a T Rating from the ESRB regardless. This is because a central gameplay mechanic and story element revolves around what is pretty overtly intended to be a metaphor for sex, characters regularly get drunk at the local tavern, and the script is littered with innuendo. Not to mention having a really dark The storyline and themes.themes are very dark as well.
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** [[spoiler:Making things worse are Giselle and Xeno themselves. Giselle can be provoked into actively jumping into the fray if your party gets within a certain radius of her (two Angels flank her, baiting players into walking up close to attack them to get Giselle involved or will simply stay put and attack with their spells anyway), and her long-ranged Redline attack is practically a OneHitKill, if not reducing the HP of the Witches to at least half, it's dangerous to be anywhere near her. Xeno himself will never join the battle and stand at the back of the room ''unless'' the player gets closer to attack the aforementioned two Angels, at which point he will simply make the battle unwinnable. Not only is he as fast as Giselle in terms of turn speed, but his Thousand Strikes and Blue Meteor attacks don't need him to be next to any of your characters to one-shot them. Does this all sound fun? The second phase involves you having to navigate Alto and the girls down a long hallway on the left side of the field to make them escape the enemies. This seems doable... except that Mordimort and Lisette are the slowest of the Witches and if Giselle is in play, you basically have to pray that she becomes more preoccupied with fighting Hilda and her crew than sniping you with Redline. There's also the fact that you are unable to Tune any of the witches with Alto here, meaning no chance to gain breathing room with Rusty Key or heal with To The Sea all around. Due to all of these factors, some relying on what the [[LuckBasedMission AI of the enemies decides to do]], this fight is generally regarded as being even harder than the TrueFinalBoss.]]
** What's more, one of the bonus conditions for the battle that awards Popo her Slumber Bow weapon involves [[spoiler:Alto needing to engage Giselle in battle at least once. This is tantamount to a SuicideMission, as unless luck is on your side with what Giselle does next, she will immediately turn to face Alto and shred him. Given his speed and the fact that she will have Angels around her, they can pick him off if he survives or soften him up for her to finish him off. A way to get around this is to simply wait for NewGamePlus to have Alto be a few levels strong enough to tank a hit for the next time around or to use his Gale Slash to strike her from afar. Even the latter is not without some risk, as Giselle can still Redline Alto or chase after him if the Harbingers aren't near enough to distract her.]]
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* NeverLiveItDown: [[spoiler:Even if they were {{Well-Intentioned Extremist}}s trying to prevent the Eclipse in retrospect, Hilda still let Dorothy try to set off a volcanic eruption right next to the capital of a country in the middle of a really big festival, as long as Dorothy doesn't hurt herself.]]

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* NeverLiveItDown: [[spoiler:Even if they were {{Well-Intentioned Extremist}}s [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremists]] trying to prevent the Eclipse in retrospect, Hilda still let Dorothy try to set off a volcanic eruption right next to the capital of a country in the middle of a really big festival, as long as Dorothy doesn't hurt herself.]]
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* NeverLiveItDown: [[spoiler:Even if they were WellIntentionedExtremists trying to prevent the Eclipse in retrospect, Hilda still let Dorothy try to set off a volcanic eruption right next to the capital of a country in the middle of a really big festival, as long as Dorothy doesn't hurt herself.]]

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* NeverLiveItDown: [[spoiler:Even if they were WellIntentionedExtremists {{Well-Intentioned Extremist}}s trying to prevent the Eclipse in retrospect, Hilda still let Dorothy try to set off a volcanic eruption right next to the capital of a country in the middle of a really big festival, as long as Dorothy doesn't hurt herself.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: Dorothy tries to set off a volcanic eruption right next to the capital of a country in the middle of a really big festival pretty early on. Hilda doesn't have any issues with her doing this, so long as Dorothy doesn't hurt herself.



* NeverLiveItDown: [[spoiler:Even if they were WellIntentionedExtremists trying to prevent the Eclipse in retrospect, Hilda still let Dorothy try to set off a volcanic eruption right next to the capital of a country in the middle of a really big festival, as long as Dorothy doesn't hurt herself.]]



** [[spoiler: Making things worse are Giselle and Xeno themselves- the former can become aggravated into actively jumping into the fray if your party gets within a certain radius of her (two Angels flank Giselle, which simply bait players into walking up close to attack them to get Giselle involved or will simply stay put and attack with their spells anyway), and as her long-ranged Redline attack is practically a OneHitKill, if not reducing the HP of the witches to at least half, it's dangerous to be anywhere near her. Xeno himself will never join the battle and stand at the back of the room... unless the player gets closer to attack the aforementioned two Angels, at which point he will simply make the battle unwinnable. Not only is he as fast as Giselle in terms of turn speed, but his Thousand Strikes and Blue Meteor attacks mean that he doesn't even have to be next to any of your characters to one-shot them. Does this all sound fun? The second phase involves you having to navigate Alto and the girls down a long hallway on the left side of the field to make them escape the enemies. This seems doable... except that Mordimort and Lisette are the slowest of the witches and if Giselle is in play, you basically have to pray that she becomes more preoccupied with fighting Hilda and her crew than sniping you with Redline. There's also the fact that you are unable to Tune any of the witches with Alto here, meaning no chance to gain breathing room with Rusty Key or heal with To The Sea all around. Due to all of these factors, some relying on what the [[LuckBasedMission AI of the enemies decides to do]], this fight is generally regarded as being even harder than the TrueFinalBoss.]]
** What's more, one of the bonus conditions for the battle that awards Popo her Slumber Bow weapon involves [[spoiler: Alto needing to engage Giselle in battle at least once. This is tantamount to a SuicideMission, as unless luck is on your side with what Giselle does next, Giselle will immediately turn to face Alto and shred him. Given his speed and the fact that she will have Angels around her, they can pick him off if he survives or soften him up for her to finish him off. A way to get around this is to simply wait for NewGamePlus to have Alto be a few levels strong enough to tank a hit for the next time around or to use his Gale Slash to strike her from afar. Even the latter is not without some risk, as Giselle can still Redline Alto or chase after him if the Harbingers aren't near enough to distract her.]]
* TheScrappy: Keith seems to be generally disliked by the fanbase due to his self-centered {{Jerkass}} nature and limited use in combat. This is likely intended by the writers, as the other characters [[TheFriendNobodyLikes frequently voice their annoyance with him.]]
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Despite featuring cute magical girls that like to sing (though in one's case, she is actually evil) and the many cutesy character designs, it was given a T Rating from the ESRB regardless. This is because a central gameplay mechanic and story element revolves around what is pretty overtly intended to be a metaphor for sex, characters regularly get drunk at the local tavern, and the script is littered with innuendo. Not to mention having a really dark story line and themes.
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Most villains actually, but [[spoiler:Eve]] is basically just a kid who never knew affection.

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** [[spoiler: Making [[spoiler:Making things worse are Giselle and Xeno themselves- the former themselves. Giselle can become aggravated be provoked into actively jumping into the fray if your party gets within a certain radius of her (two Angels flank Giselle, which simply bait her, baiting players into walking up close to attack them to get Giselle involved or will simply stay put and attack with their spells anyway), and as her long-ranged Redline attack is practically a OneHitKill, if not reducing the HP of the witches Witches to at least half, it's dangerous to be anywhere near her. Xeno himself will never join the battle and stand at the back of the room... unless room ''unless'' the player gets closer to attack the aforementioned two Angels, at which point he will simply make the battle unwinnable. Not only is he as fast as Giselle in terms of turn speed, but his Thousand Strikes and Blue Meteor attacks mean that he doesn't even have don't need him to be next to any of your characters to one-shot them. Does this all sound fun? The second phase involves you having to navigate Alto and the girls down a long hallway on the left side of the field to make them escape the enemies. This seems doable... except that Mordimort and Lisette are the slowest of the witches Witches and if Giselle is in play, you basically have to pray that she becomes more preoccupied with fighting Hilda and her crew than sniping you with Redline. There's also the fact that you are unable to Tune any of the witches with Alto here, meaning no chance to gain breathing room with Rusty Key or heal with To The Sea all around. Due to all of these factors, some relying on what the [[LuckBasedMission AI of the enemies decides to do]], this fight is generally regarded as being even harder than the TrueFinalBoss.]]
** What's more, one of the bonus conditions for the battle that awards Popo her Slumber Bow weapon involves [[spoiler: Alto [[spoiler:Alto needing to engage Giselle in battle at least once. This is tantamount to a SuicideMission, as unless luck is on your side with what Giselle does next, Giselle she will immediately turn to face Alto and shred him. Given his speed and the fact that she will have Angels around her, they can pick him off if he survives or soften him up for her to finish him off. A way to get around this is to simply wait for NewGamePlus to have Alto be a few levels strong enough to tank a hit for the next time around or to use his Gale Slash to strike her from afar. Even the latter is not without some risk, as Giselle can still Redline Alto or chase after him if the Harbingers aren't near enough to distract her.]]
* TheScrappy: Keith seems to be generally disliked by the fanbase due to his self-centered {{Jerkass}} nature and limited use in combat. [[IntendedAudienceReaction This is likely intended by the writers, writers]], as the other characters [[TheFriendNobodyLikes frequently voice their annoyance with him.]]
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Despite featuring cute magical girls that like to sing (though in one's case, she is actually evil) and the many cutesy character designs, it was given a T Rating from the ESRB regardless. This is because a central gameplay mechanic and story element revolves around what is pretty overtly intended to be a metaphor for sex, characters regularly get drunk at the local tavern, and the script is littered with innuendo. Not to mention having a really dark story line storyline and themes.
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Most of the villains actually, (barring [[HateSink Mayor Bonanza]]), but [[spoiler:Eve]] is basically just a kid who never knew affection.
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*** While not able to perform status effects as well as Nonoka, Rusty is similar in his extreme mobility and competency in damage from afar or up close.

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*** ** While not able to perform status effects as well as Nonoka, Rusty is similar in his extreme mobility and competency in damage from afar or up close.
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*** While not able to perform status effects as well as Nonoka, Rusty is similar in his extremely mobility and competency in damage from afar or up close.

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*** While not able to perform status effects as well as Nonoka, Rusty is similar in his extremely extreme mobility and competency in damage from afar or up close.
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**** While not able to perform status effects as well as Nonoka, Rusty is similar in his extremely mobility and competency in damage from afar or up close.
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** Hrodulf has also proven to be popular with fans due to his RatedMForManly nature, status as a OneManArmy and [[spoiler: eventual DyingMomentOfAwesome]]

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** Hrodulf has also proven to be popular with fans due to his RatedMForManly nature, manliness, status as a OneManArmy and [[spoiler: eventual DyingMomentOfAwesome]]

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* TierInducedScrappy:
** Ewan. Every character is salvageable without needing to be babied... except him. While he's good if you spend a lot of time grinding in Mordimort's Tuning fights, he quickly falls behind normally (and will still be outperformed if you don't give him a ''lot'' of levels and nobody else any) and never even manages to establish a niche that other slow characters have.
** Among the Witches, Mordimort herself is this. Disregarding the inability to bring her to her own Tuning fights to level grind, she has numerous flaws that hold her back. Notable examples include her slowness, questionable at best support skills, and that her song induces Sleep...which is not only outclassed by Popo's despite being obtained far later, but has her second song also inflict damage that wakes up every enemy that was put to sleep by her singing. The main point of the song seems to be to not root the more powerful Witches in place rather than actually provide a niche, as [[spoiler:her ability to stop enemies from moving is soon outclassed by Hilda, who outright inflicts Stop]]. Fortunately, unlike Ewan, she does have a number of pretty good qualities - just not offensive ones.

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* CaptainObviousReveal: [[spoiler:Hilda, the supposed BigBad, is GoodAllAlong, and she and the other Harbingers joining the party. Simultaneously, Klaus being the true BigBad (or a possessed avatar of the true villain)]]. This is especially true if you've played the VideoGame/LuminousArc games, which tend to feature [[spoiler:Witches being GoodAllAlong alongside GodIsEvil- in particular, Hilda is an {{Expy}} of Fatima, who had a similar twist involving her]]. The only real surprise is that [[spoiler:Hrodulf dies before he gets to join, but even that isn't hugely shocking]].

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[[spoiler:Hilda, the supposed BigBad, is GoodAllAlong, and she and the other Harbingers joining the party. Simultaneously, Klaus being the true BigBad (or a possessed avatar of the true villain)]]. This is especially true if you've played the VideoGame/LuminousArc games, which tend to feature [[spoiler:Witches being GoodAllAlong alongside GodIsEvil- in particular, Hilda is an {{Expy}} of Fatima, who had a similar twist involving her]]. The only real surprise is that [[spoiler:Hrodulf dies before he gets to join, but even that isn't hugely shocking]].
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Surviving Kashmistan left Mordimort with some serious issues, and she seems to have a bit of an arrested-development problem from that point onward. Most of her Affinity scenes are her attempts to be "normal."
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** Among the Witches, Mordimort herself is this. Disregarding the inability to bring her to her own Tuning fights to level grind, she has numerous flaws that hold her back. Notable examples include her slowness, questionable at best support skills, and that her song induces Sleep...which is not only outclassed by Popo's despite being obtained far later, but has her second song also inflict damage that wakes up every enemy that was put to sleep by her singing. Fortunately, unlike Ewan, she does have a number of pretty good qualities - just not offensive ones.

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** Among the Witches, Mordimort herself is this. Disregarding the inability to bring her to her own Tuning fights to level grind, she has numerous flaws that hold her back. Notable examples include her slowness, questionable at best support skills, and that her song induces Sleep...which is not only outclassed by Popo's despite being obtained far later, but has her second song also inflict damage that wakes up every enemy that was put to sleep by her singing. The main point of the song seems to be to not root the more powerful Witches in place rather than actually provide a niche, as [[spoiler:her ability to stop enemies from moving is soon outclassed by Hilda, who outright inflicts Stop]]. Fortunately, unlike Ewan, she does have a number of pretty good qualities - just not offensive ones.
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* ClicheStorm: The plot is generally predictable, with even the late game ShockingSwerve being rather obvious, but the entertaining cast and enjoyable gameplay make up for it.

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* ClicheStorm: The plot is generally predictable, with even the late game ShockingSwerve twist being rather obvious, but the entertaining cast and enjoyable gameplay make up for it.
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** [[spoiler: Making things worse are Giselle and Xeno themselves- the former can become aggravated into actively jumping into the fray if your party gets within a certain radius of her (two Angels flank Giselle, which simply bait players into walking up close to attack them to get Giselle involved or will simply stay put and attack with their spells anyway), and as her long-ranged Redline attack is practically a OneHitKill, if not reducing the HP of the witches to at least half, it's dangerous to be anywhere near her. Xeno himself will never join the battle and stand at the back of the room... unless the player gets closer to attack the aforementioned two Angels, at which point he will simply make the battle unwinnable. Not only is he as fast as Giselle in terms of turn speed, but his Thousand Strikes and Blue Meteor attacks mean that he doesn't even have to be next to any of your characters to one-shot them. Does this all sound fun? The second phase involves you having to navigate Alto and the girls down a long hallway on the left side of the field to make them escape the enemies. This seems doable... except that Mordimort and Lisette are the slowest of the witches and if Giselle is in play, you basically have to pray that she becomes more preoccupied with fighting Hilda and her crew than sniping you with Redline. There's also the fact that you are unable to Tune any of the witches with Alto here, meaning no chance to gain breathing room with Rusty Key or heal with To the Sea all around. Due to all of these factors, some relying on what the [[LuckBasedMission AI of the enemies decides to do]], this fight is generally regarded as being even harder than the TrueFinalBoss.]]

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** [[spoiler: Making things worse are Giselle and Xeno themselves- the former can become aggravated into actively jumping into the fray if your party gets within a certain radius of her (two Angels flank Giselle, which simply bait players into walking up close to attack them to get Giselle involved or will simply stay put and attack with their spells anyway), and as her long-ranged Redline attack is practically a OneHitKill, if not reducing the HP of the witches to at least half, it's dangerous to be anywhere near her. Xeno himself will never join the battle and stand at the back of the room... unless the player gets closer to attack the aforementioned two Angels, at which point he will simply make the battle unwinnable. Not only is he as fast as Giselle in terms of turn speed, but his Thousand Strikes and Blue Meteor attacks mean that he doesn't even have to be next to any of your characters to one-shot them. Does this all sound fun? The second phase involves you having to navigate Alto and the girls down a long hallway on the left side of the field to make them escape the enemies. This seems doable... except that Mordimort and Lisette are the slowest of the witches and if Giselle is in play, you basically have to pray that she becomes more preoccupied with fighting Hilda and her crew than sniping you with Redline. There's also the fact that you are unable to Tune any of the witches with Alto here, meaning no chance to gain breathing room with Rusty Key or heal with To the The Sea all around. Due to all of these factors, some relying on what the [[LuckBasedMission AI of the enemies decides to do]], this fight is generally regarded as being even harder than the TrueFinalBoss.]]

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Natsuko didn't work on Stella Glow, she moved on to Squenix back in like 2013 or something


* RetroactiveRecognition: ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'''s final arc in Endwalker basically turns into Stella Glow's. Turns out? Natsuko Ishikawa was involved in ''both''.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'''s final arc in Endwalker basically turns into Stella Glow's. Turns out? Natsuko Ishikawa was involved in ''both''.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Popo's character arc has her continuously unable to recover from her constant abuse by the mayor of Port Noir despite all Alto's help and even multiple Tunings. As anyone who's suffered abuse can tell you, taking a while to move past it despite having plenty of help is a very realistic depiction of victims of abusive behaviour.
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* DifficultySpike: Happens towards the end of Chapter 10 where the game begins to throw bosses that are immune to ailments, and thus cannot be stopped with crippling ailments like Stop or Paralysis. Prior to this, one could get by through keeping roughly in-line with the recommended levels and by abusing [[DiscOneNuke Rusty Key]] [[spoiler: or Ice World]], but the sheer strength of the end bosses might force one to stop to level grind.

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* AngstWhatAngst: [[spoiler:Hilda doesn't really show much care about her old kingdom of Fahrenheit, even after Giselle - right in front of Hilda - states to Xeno that she destroyed it. It's never brought up again, and Hilda's ending has her have a child with Alto instead of anything tied to her kingdom.]]

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* AngstWhatAngst: [[spoiler:Hilda doesn't really show much care about her old kingdom of Fahrenheit, even after Giselle - -- right in front of Hilda - -- states to Xeno that she destroyed it. It's never brought up again, and Hilda's ending has her have a child with Alto instead of anything tied to her kingdom.]]



* TierInducedScrappy: Ewan. Every character is salvageable without needing to be babied... except him. While he's good if you spend a lot of time grinding in Mordimort's Tuning fights, he quickly falls behind normally (and will still be outperformed if you don't give him a ''lot'' of levels and nobody else any) and never even manages to establish a niche that other slow characters have.

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Ewan. Every character is salvageable without needing to be babied... except him. While he's good if you spend a lot of time grinding in Mordimort's Tuning fights, he quickly falls behind normally (and will still be outperformed if you don't give him a ''lot'' of levels and nobody else any) and never even manages to establish a niche that other slow characters have.
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** What's more, one of the bonus conditions for the battle that awards Popo her Slumber Bow weapon involves [[spoiler: Alto needing to engage Giselle in battle at least once. This is tantamount to a SuicideMission, as unless luck is on your side with what Giselle does next, Giselle will immediately turn to face Alto and shred him. Given his speed and the fact that she will have Angels around her, they can pick him off if he survives or soften him up for her to finish him off. A way to get around this is to simply wait for NewGamePlus to have Alto be a few levels strong enough to tank a hit for the next time around or to use his Gale Slash to strike her from afar. Even the latter is without some risk, as Giselle can still Redline Alto or chase after him if the Harbingers aren't near enough to distract her.]]

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** What's more, one of the bonus conditions for the battle that awards Popo her Slumber Bow weapon involves [[spoiler: Alto needing to engage Giselle in battle at least once. This is tantamount to a SuicideMission, as unless luck is on your side with what Giselle does next, Giselle will immediately turn to face Alto and shred him. Given his speed and the fact that she will have Angels around her, they can pick him off if he survives or soften him up for her to finish him off. A way to get around this is to simply wait for NewGamePlus to have Alto be a few levels strong enough to tank a hit for the next time around or to use his Gale Slash to strike her from afar. Even the latter is not without some risk, as Giselle can still Redline Alto or chase after him if the Harbingers aren't near enough to distract her.]]

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