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* FridgeBrilliance: During the Third Kalpa of the Labyrinth of Amala while Dante is in there, the place is noticably devoid of demons to face. One might put it to DevelopersForesight so as you wouldn't be distracted when fighting against Dante, but think about it: '''[[DemonSlaying Dante]]''' has been all over those floors of the Third Kalpa! It makes sense as to why there's no demons lurking there, he killed them already! Which is quite a feat given the hordes you face in game. Naturally, once Dante leaves after you defeat him, the demons are suddenly back in those floors.

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During the Third Kalpa of the Labyrinth of Amala while Dante is in there, the place is noticably devoid of demons to face. One might put it to DevelopersForesight so as you wouldn't be distracted when fighting against Dante, but think about it: '''[[DemonSlaying Dante]]''' has been all over those floors of the Third Kalpa! It makes sense as to why there's no demons lurking there, he killed them already! Which is quite a feat given the hordes you face in game. Naturally, once Dante leaves after you defeat him, the demons are suddenly back in those floors.floors.
** The Freedom Ending is abit odd in that it's said multiple times in the game that a Demon cannot conceive a Reason and thus cannot play a part in making a new world. You either have to side with one of the Reason holders, choose to keep the Vortex World active, or destroy it altogether. However, this is only in the terms of a "new" world. [[ExactWords You can still try forcing Kagutsuchi to bring back the "old" world.]]


** "I swear, by my sword and capote, that I will once again prove victorious!" A rather spectacular PreAssKickingOneLiner that is one of the last lines before the fight properly begins. Among other things, it's the image for Atlus's That One Boss page.

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** "I swear, by my sword and capote, that I will once again prove victorious!" A rather spectacular PreAssKickingOneLiner that is one of the last lines before the fight properly begins. Among other things, it's the image for Atlus's That One Boss page.



** '''[[WakeUpCallBoss Matador]]''', who gets the honor of being pictured in the Atlus ThatOneBoss page. With the right strategy, he's not too difficult, but he's the first boss in the game that you won't be able to beat without fusing a party specifically to counter him. And even if you do he's still [[GoddamnedBoss a pain in the ass]], replenishing his Evasion faster than you can drain it.

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** '''[[WakeUpCallBoss Matador]]''', who gets the honor of being pictured in the Atlus ThatOneBoss page.Matador]]'''. With the right strategy, he's not too difficult, but he's the first boss in the game that you won't be able to beat without fusing a party specifically to counter him. And even if you do he's still [[GoddamnedBoss a pain in the ass]], replenishing his Evasion faster than you can drain it.


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** Say it with us now, "ONE MORE GOD REJECTED! Strike without grace!" The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6LWQhvzRw Fierce Battle]] theme will be stuck in your brain given how often it comes up.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHMoICw2uc Chiaki's theme]], and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZorifQNLOYY&t=116s the second variant]] when you briefly rejoin in the Mantra Headquarters. Surprisingly pretty themes for an otherwise creepy and abrasive soundtrack.

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** The Freedom Route for the most part. The Demi-fiend ''was'' [[WasOnceAMan originally human in the first place]] living a normal life until the Conception came, and suddenly he's tasked with changing the world by the forces above him while his friends go crazy. Going in this route implies he has no desire of changing it, would rather have his old world and his friends back the way they were despite their flaws, and thus decides to [[spoiler:force the FinalBoss Kagutsuchi]] to undo everything that transpired. And it works in the end. [[spoiler:Everything is returned to him at once without any catches, and Yuko thanks him for restoring the world while deciding to live for real.]]


* MagnificentBastard: Lucifer. He grants you the power of the Magatama as part of a combat test trial. It really doesn't matter ''what'' you do with it - ''literally anything you do with it'' [[XanatosGambit ends with a net gain for him]]. You go and make sure any of the three main Reasons wins, you prove the product is workable. You leave the Vortex World as-is, you spit on the Great Will's face. You restore the world as was, you spit on the Great Will's face ''and'' he gets a warrior that in due time will fight again against Him. You accept the offer to reach him in the Labyrinth's lowest level, he gets a worthy successor and new general...

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** Especially on Website/{{Reddit}}, replying "cturne" to people saying "no".


** As of 2019, Dante has returned to the franchise in VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiLiberationDx2, as part of a cross promotion between that game and VideoGame/DevilMayCryV.

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** As of 2019, Dante has returned to the franchise in VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiLiberationDx2, as part of a cross promotion between that game and VideoGame/DevilMayCryV.VideoGame/DevilMayCry5.

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** In a weird way, the TrueFinalBoss, [[spoiler: Lucifer]]. Which he's more challenging than Kagutsuchi, getting to him requires going through the BrutalBonusLevel and multiple sadistic BonusBoss fights, so he can't help but feel easy by comparison. You're also likely to have Pierce on the main character by then.


* CrackPairing: There's quite a lot of Pixie/Demi-Fiend art. This isn't quite as crazy as it sounds, she's the first demon to join you, she's friendly, and will stay by your side till the end, if you let her.



** "I challenge you to a duel!" Despite the fact that there's more to the sentence, this is all that shows up in the one text boss, but with a comma replacing the exclamation point. Pictures of Matador saying this is a fandom joke of things getting serious.

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** "I challenge you to a duel!" Despite the fact that there's more to the sentence, this is all that shows up in the one text boss, textbox, but with a comma replacing the exclamation point. Pictures of Matador saying this is a fandom joke of things getting serious.


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** The CG of the world being destroyed and its remains twisting into the Vortex, followed by a Magatama forcibly shoved into your eye in first-person view, not an hour in. This drives home the bleak atmosphere of the game that sets itself apart even from other ''Shin Megami Tensei'' titles. Here, there's not even a world of humanity left to struggle for survival, your friends and teacher are gone, the remaining humans can be counted on one hand, and you're now a demon on your own. Good luck.


* DracoInLeatherPants: Lucifer and the True Demon Demi-Fiend get this a lot. Sure, fighting in the name of free will and stopping the Conception from ever happening again is noble, but you have to remember that you do this by '''destroying an entire multiverse and killing more people than the human mind can possibly count.''' Just to reinforce how destructive you've become, Kagutsuchi isn't just dark during the fight with Lucifer. It's cracked in half. Instead of a phase counter, it's just listed as "Dead". Congratulations, you just [[WhatTheHellPlayer permanently destroyed all light in existence.]] [[SarcasmMode I'm sure getting Pierce was worth it.]]
** This got worse when the creators themselves made [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV SMT IV]]'s Bad Ending into pretty much the exact same thing and people '''still didn't get it.'''

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Lucifer and the True Demon Demi-Fiend get this a lot. Sure, fighting in the name of free will and stopping the Conception from ever happening again is noble, but you have to remember that you do this by '''destroying an entire multiverse and killing more people than the human mind can possibly count.''' Just to reinforce how destructive you've become, Kagutsuchi isn't just dark during the fight with Lucifer. It's cracked in half. Instead of a phase counter, it's just listed as "Dead". Congratulations, you just [[WhatTheHellPlayer permanently destroyed all light in existence.]] [[SarcasmMode I'm sure getting Pierce was worth it.]]
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]] This got worse when the creators themselves made [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV SMT IV]]'s Bad Ending into pretty much the exact same thing and people '''still didn't get it.''''''
* EarWorm:
** Say it with us now, "ONE MORE GOD REJECTED! Strike without grace!" The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6LWQhvzRw Fierce Battle]] theme will be stuck in your brain given how often it comes up.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHMoICw2uc Chiaki's theme]], and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZorifQNLOYY&t=116s the second variant]] when you briefly rejoin in the Mantra Headquarters. Surprisingly pretty themes for an otherwise creepy and abrasive soundtrack.



** If Matador challenges to a duel, get your buffs ready because he is dead serious.

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** If Matador challenges you to a duel, get your buffs ready because he is dead serious.



* ThatOneSidequest: The Labyrinth of Amala in its entirety. The mandatory parts put you through the wringer ''constantly'' and remind you it's particularly hard to assemble a powerful team capable of resisting continuous assaults (many back attacks, particularly) at the beginning. The optional Grave Run is also particularly tough, even with the endgame stats.
** Puzzle Boy, a young Manikin that makes you play a minigame of 20 increasingly difficult puzzles if you want to obtain all the Magatama in the game. He's practically required as the Magatama he gives you teaches the Demi-fiend all the second tier healing abilities.

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The Labyrinth of Amala in its entirety. The While the Shady Brokers will sell you demons with GameBreaker skills, the loot is amazing, and contains cutscenes that flesh out a large chunk of the plot, even the mandatory parts will put you through the wringer ''constantly'' and remind you it's particularly hard to assemble a powerful team capable of resisting continuous assaults (many back attacks, particularly) at the beginning. The optional Grave Run is also particularly especially tough, even with the endgame stats.
** Puzzle Boy, a young Manikin that makes you play a minigame of 20 [[UnexpectedGameplayChange increasingly difficult puzzles puzzles]] if you want to obtain all the Magatama in the game. He's practically required as the Magatama he gives you teaches the Demi-fiend all the second tier healing abilities.abilities, and is necessary if you want a shot at getting the secret [[InfinityPlusOneSword 25th Magatama]]. Hope you're good at complicated block puzzles, and you have to complete all 20 levels in one go, or barring that, can slavishly reproduce steps in a walkthrough.
*** This proved so frustrating in fact, that the [[HarderThanHard Hardtype hack]] changes it so you can just buy it in the shop. Yes, even a hack made to ramp up the difficulty thought it was unreasonable.



* WhatAnIdiot: Ongyo-ki. As long as you keep hitting the real one, he'll do very little besides buff himself. He even does this after the effects are maxed out.

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Ongyo-ki. As long as you keep hitting the real one, he'll do very little besides buff himself. He even does this after the effects are maxed out.out.
** Chiaki and Isamu. Seeing how strong their school friend has become, you'd think they'd consider coming with you. Even if they recognized the Demi-Fiend has changed, given how horrific the new world is, they're not exactly in a position to be picky. Especially the case for Chiaki, who you encounter early on before she or Isamu have found their Reasons, she could've avoided a lot of hardship if she hadn't decided to go it alone.

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** This got worse when the creators themselves made [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV SMT IV]]'s Bad Ending into pretty much the exact same thing and people '''still didn't get it.'''


** To a much greater extent, Mithra is often considered by players to be the easiest boss of the game ([[NintendoHard not particularly saying much]]). The majority of his turns are wasted on Expel or Death spells, which are inaccurate and easily blocked by that point, meaning that even after using Dragon Eye, he'll end up not doing much. He is also quite frail for such a late-game boss, as he can be killed within less than 4 turns with little trouble. The only thing that can (not necessarily) mess you up in this battle is that you can't be immune to Death AND Expel at the same time at this point of the game (though your demons certainly can).
** Black Rider is one of the easier Fiends due to not having any way to deal with buffs and debuffs and having no other gimmick like Daisoujou and Trumpeter other than being a FlunkyBoss. Don't be too complacent though, as he does have Megidolaon.

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** To a much greater extent, Mithra is often considered by players to be the easiest boss of the game ([[NintendoHard not particularly saying much]]). The majority of his turns are wasted on Expel or Death spells, which are inaccurate and easily blocked by that point, meaning that even after using Dragon Eye, he'll end up not doing much. He is also quite frail for such a late-game boss, as he can be killed within less than 4 turns with little trouble. The only thing that can (not necessarily) mess you up in this battle is that you can't be immune to Death AND Expel at the same time at this point of the game (though your demons certainly can).
can). And unlike when you unlock him for fusion, Mithra does not reflect Physical attacks when you fight him.
** Black Rider is one of the easier Fiends due to not having any way to deal with buffs and debuffs and having no other gimmick like Daisoujou and Trumpeter other than being a FlunkyBoss. Don't be get too complacent though, as he does have Megidolaon.

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** As of 2019, Dante has returned to the franchise in VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiLiberationDx2, as part of a cross promotion between that game and VideoGame/DevilMayCryV.


* FridgeBrilliance: During the Third Kalpa of the Labyrinth of Amala whilw Dante is in there, the place is noticably devoid of demons to face. One might put it to DevelopersForesight so as you wouldn't be distracted when fighting against Dante, but think about it: '''[[DemonSlaying Dante]]''' has been all over those floors of the Third Kalpa! It makes sense as to why there's no demons lurking there, he killed them already! Which is quite a feat given the hordes you face in game. Naturally, once Dante leaves after you defeat him, the demons are suddenly back in those floors.

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* FridgeBrilliance: During the Third Kalpa of the Labyrinth of Amala whilw while Dante is in there, the place is noticably devoid of demons to face. One might put it to DevelopersForesight so as you wouldn't be distracted when fighting against Dante, but think about it: '''[[DemonSlaying Dante]]''' has been all over those floors of the Third Kalpa! It makes sense as to why there's no demons lurking there, he killed them already! Which is quite a feat given the hordes you face in game. Naturally, once Dante leaves after you defeat him, the demons are suddenly back in those floors.


* FridgeBrilliance: During the Third Kalpa of the Labyrinth of Amala, the place is noticably devoid of demons to face. One might put it to DevelopersForesight so as you wouldn't be distracted when fighting against Dante, but think about it: '''[[DemonSlaying Dante]]''' has been all over those floors of the Third Kalpa! It makes sense as to why there's no demons lurking there, he killed them already! Which is quite a feat given the hordes you face in game.

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* FridgeBrilliance: During the Third Kalpa of the Labyrinth of Amala, Amala whilw Dante is in there, the place is noticably devoid of demons to face. One might put it to DevelopersForesight so as you wouldn't be distracted when fighting against Dante, but think about it: '''[[DemonSlaying Dante]]''' has been all over those floors of the Third Kalpa! It makes sense as to why there's no demons lurking there, he killed them already! Which is quite a feat given the hordes you face in game. Naturally, once Dante leaves after you defeat him, the demons are suddenly back in those floors.

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