History YMMV / ShadowsOverTheSouth

* ThatOneDisadvantage: Players who wanted to play [[TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion Wraiths]] were told up front that they would immediately run into problems communicating with non-Wraith players, as Wraiths either need an Arcanoi specifically for interacting with the Skinlands (which ran the risk of running afoul of the [[{{Masquerade}} Dictum Mortuum]]), or they could only communicate with characters who have powers like Necromancy or the Spirit Sphere, which [[WithFriendsLikeThese carry their own risks]]. While it did make Wraiths immune to what most of what other character types could throw at them, what ''could'' hurt them were an absolute AchillesHeel to them, and it made finding even basic social role play with other [=PCs=] into a chore. This resulted in all but the most hardcore ''Wraith'' fans simply refusing to play the splat, ultimately resulting in its closure until April of 2023, when a new [=ST=] wanted to give it a shot.
* TierInducedScrappy: Martial Arts; see ComplacentGamingSyndrome above. A character with high levels of Strength, Dexterity, and Martial Arts, especially when combined with certain powers like [[SuperSpeed Celerity]], [[SuperStrength Potence]], or [[TouchOfDeath Cauldron of Blood, Decay, or Holocaust]] can and will curb-stomp nearly any other kind of character and most of what a Storyteller will throw at them without resorting to [[DroppedABridgeOnHim deliberately trying to kill the character]]. Eventually, when characters started getting pigeon-holed into taking Martial Arts just to stand a fighting chance against other characters and began asking for a nerf, the Storytellers, caught between a MortonsFork of either {{nerf}}ing Martial Arts or doing nothing, decided to TakeAThirdOption and instead drastically buff the other fighting styles, including Kailindo and Dirty Fighting... but ''not'' [[PurposelyOverpowered Do]].

** As far as {{NPC}}s go, you won't find many more popular than [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Antonin Demeskin]], [[CoolOldGuy Gregory Handel]], or [[BrattyHalfPint Ada]] [[LittleMissBadass Hendricks]].

* ThatOneDisadvantage: Players who wanted to play [[TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion Wraiths]] were told up front that they would immediately run into problems communicating with non-Wraith players, as Wraiths either need an Arcanoi specifically for interacting with the Skinlands (which ran the risk of running afoul of the [[{{Masquerade}} Dictum Mortuum]]), or they could only communicate with characters who have powers like Necromancy or the Spirit Sphere, which [[WithFriendsLikeThese carry their own risks]]. While it did make Wraiths immune to what most of what other character types could throw at them, what ''could'' hurt them were an absolute AchillesHeel to them, and it made finding even basic social role play with other [=PCs=] into a chore. This resulted in all but the most hardcore ''Wraith'' fans simply refusing to play the splat, ultimately resulting in its closure at least for the foreseeable future.

* ThatOneDisadvantage: Players who wanted to play [[TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion Wraiths]] were told up front that they would immediately run into problems communicating with non-Wraith players, as Wraiths either need an Arcanoi specifically for interacting with the Skinlands (which ran the risk of running afoul of the [[{{Masquerade}} Dictum Mortuum]]), or they could only communicate with characters who have powers like Necromancy or the Spirit Sphere, which [[WithFriendsLikeThese carry their own risks]]. While it did make Wraiths immune to what most of what other character types could throw at them, what ''could'' hurt them were absolute an absolute AchillesHeel to them, and it made finding even basic social role play with other [=PCs=] into a chore. This resulted in all but the most hardcore ''Wraith'' fans simply refusing to play the splat, ultimately resulting in its closure at least for the foreseeable future.

* CompleteMonster:
** Few villains in the game have had as much notoriety as [[TheCaligula Judas Illyrium]], the Camarilla Prince of Jacksonville and Starke. Being ultimately responsible for the deaths of several player characters (some of which were their players' own fault, granted), Judas has on multiple occasions proven himself to be the consummate [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder backstabber]], betraying not just any player character dumb enough to trust him, but the ''entire Camarilla'', callously sacrificing his own court, along with countless innocents in Gainesville, in an attempt to kill any Sabbat in Gainesville who knew of his true identity, while at the same time intentionally trying to get the other player characters killed in the process, leaving him the sole power in the area. He cares nothing for anyone or anything except his own ego. The only reason the player characters couldn't go after him was because, for the longest time, despite his nature he was still recognized by the Camarilla as the rightful Prince, so even if they ''did'' manage to defeat him and his legions of lackeys, they'd be starting a war by doing so. This finally changed when they discovered proof that he was in bed with the Black Hand, resulting in the Ivory Tower dispatching a Red Alastor to investigate the charges, and Judas ended up on the Red List because of it.
** Gabriel Martinez of Clan Ravnos. Coming up with the admittedly ingenious idea of using a Mage to alchemically synthesize vampiric vitae into a pill-based club drug, he concocted a plot to saturate the surrounding areas in drugs based off of his own blood, thus turning everyone who got hooked into his own blood-bound slaves. When the player characters caught on to his scheme, what did he do? What else but brutally slaughter an entire tenement full of innocent people, and then do it ''again'', only the second time, the player characters were ForcedToWatch. While Judas may be the game's most long-running villain, for the one-off plots, Martinez might very well have been the [[HateSink most hated]] overall.
** [[OmnicidalManiac Valkyrie]] topped them both. An utterly insane Imbued who was [[EvenEvilHasStandards too crazy even for the Society of Leopold]], she intentionally tried to cause not one, not two, but ''three'' mass-casualty biological attacks, for no other reason than because she wanted to bring about the Biblical End Times. Her enemies, her own men, innocent bystanders, not a single life mattered; the more casualties and collateral damage, the better, as every death was, in her view, just another step toward Armageddon. Though she may have tried to dress up her OmnicidalManiac tendencies in religious language and [[PutThemAllOutOfTheirMisery claims of being for the greater good]], it was painfully obvious to every character in the game that she was just another sadistic mass murderer. When even the ''Technocratic Union'' was willing to risk inadvertently aiding their enemies (at the time; this was before the EnemyMine truce with Starke) to deal with her, you ''know'' she's bad news.

** As far as {{NPC}}s go, you won't find many more popular than [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Antonin Demeskin]], [[BrattyHalfPint Ada]] [[LittleMissBadass Hendricks]], or [[TheFaceless The Ranger]]. Especially after the latter's true identity was finally revealed.

* TierInducedScrappy: Martial Arts; see ComplacentGamingSyndrome above. A character with high levels of Strength, Dexterity, and Martial Arts, especially when combined with certain powers like [[SuperSpeed Celerity]], [[SuperStrength Potence]], or [[TouchOfDeath Cauldron of Blood, Decay, or Holocaust]] can and will curb-stomp nearly any other kind of character and most of what a Storyteller will throw at them without resorting to [[DroppedABridgeOnHim deliberately trying to kill the character]]. Eventually, when characters started getting pigeon-holed into taking Martial Arts just to stand a fighting chance against other characters and began asking for a nerf, the Storytellers, caught between a MortonsFork of either {{nerf}}ing Martial Arts or doing nothing, decided to TakeAThirdOption and instead drastically buff the other fighting styles, including Kailindo and Dirty Fighting... but ''not'' [[PurposelyOverpowered Do]].
* TheWoobie: Geoff Ramsay. Already a ShellShockedVeteran, his first husband committed suicide, and then he ends up Imbued, with all of the [[BrokenMasquerade problems]] [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow that]] [[GoMadFromTheRevelation go]] [[DoomedMoralVictor with]] [[HopelessWar it]]. Just when it looks like he has a chance at happiness with Dante, a Mage, he's accused of being a CategoryTraitor for revealing what the other Imbued were doing behind the Starke Council's back, and as if that wasn't bad enough, Dante is nearly killed (left with only single health point left following one scene) right when Geoff is trying to settle into his new role outside of the Imbued... and then [[DroppedABridgeOnHim died of cancer]], only to be [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie brought back as a Mummy]], one of the very supernaturals he was supposed to fight as an Imbued. Poor guy just can't catch a break.

* PlayerPunch: The in-character death of a player character, especially one that was well-liked by other characters (and more often than not, by their players as well). While it's a bit rarer than in some other games, it can and does happen.

** [[OmnicidalManiac Valkyrie]] topped them both. An utterly insane Imbued who was too crazy even for the Society of Leopold, she intentionally tried to cause not one, not two, but ''three'' mass-casualty biological attacks, for no other reason than because she wanted to bring about the Biblical End Times. Her enemies, her own men, innocent bystanders, not a single life mattered; the more casualties and collateral damage, the better, as every death was, in her view, just another step toward Armageddon. Though she may have tried to dress up her OmnicidalManiac tendencies in religious language and [[PutThemAllOutOfTheirMisery claims of being for the greater good]], it was painfully obvious to every character in the game that she was just another sadistic mass murderer. When even the ''Technocratic Union'' was willing to risk inadvertently aiding their enemies (at the time; this was before the EnemyMine truce with Starke) to deal with her, you ''know'' she's bad news.