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** Kramer's comments in "[[Recap/SeinfeldS4E18TheOldMan The Old Man]]" about needing to listen to "the alternative media" to get the truth is a little harder to listen to in the age of "alternative facts", where less humorous conspiracy theorists distrust mainstream media and will be more likely to believe fringe theories instead. This has even been [[WordOfSaintPaul acknowledged by Larry Charles]], who outright stated that "Kramer would be QAnon believer today" in an [[https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/seinfeld-kramer-qanon-larry-charles-b1850714.html interview]].
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** Kramer's comments in "[[Recap/SeinfeldS4E18TheOldMan The Old Man]]" about needing to listen to "the alternative media" to get the truth is a little harder to listen to in the age of "alternative facts", where less humorous conspiracy theorists distrust mainstream media and will be more likely to believe fringe theories instead. This has even been [[WordOfSaintPaul acknowledged by Larry Charles]], who outright stated that "Kramer would be QAnon [=QAnon=] believer today" in an [[https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/seinfeld-kramer-qanon-larry-charles-b1850714.html interview]].
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** Kramer's comments in "[[Recap/SeinfeldS4E18TheOldMan The Old Man]]" about needing to listen to "the alternative media" to get the truth is a little harder to listen to in the age of "alternative facts", where less humorous conspiracy theorists distrust mainstream media and will be more likely to believe fringe theories instead.
*** This has even been [[WordOfSaintPaul acknowledged by Larry Charles]], who outright stated that "Kramer would be QAnon believer today" in an [[https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/seinfeld-kramer-qanon-larry-charles-b1850714.html interview]].
*** This has even been [[WordOfSaintPaul acknowledged by Larry Charles]], who outright stated that "Kramer would be QAnon believer today" in an [[https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/seinfeld-kramer-qanon-larry-charles-b1850714.html interview]].
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** Kramer's comments in "[[Recap/SeinfeldS4E18TheOldMan The Old Man]]" about needing to listen to "the alternative media" to get the truth is a little harder to listen to in the age of "alternative facts", where less humorous conspiracy theorists distrust mainstream media and will be more likely to believe fringe theories instead.
***instead. This has even been [[WordOfSaintPaul acknowledged by Larry Charles]], who outright stated that "Kramer would be QAnon believer today" in an [[https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/seinfeld-kramer-qanon-larry-charles-b1850714.html interview]].
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*** This has even been [[WordOfSaintPaul acknowledged by Larry Charles]], who outright stated that "Kramer would be QAnon believer today" in an [[https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/seinfeld-kramer-qanon-larry-charles-b1850714.html interview]].
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** Jerry's subplot in "The Van Buren Boys" makes no sense. He drives himself crazy trying to understand why everyone is acting like something's horribly wrong with his seemingly perfect girlfriend and although he's momentarily validated when his parents think she's terrific, the more they gush about her, the more ''he'' starts to get turned off. Which is even more nonsensical, as he's had no problem with the liking previous girlfriends of his.
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** Kramer's comments in "[[Recap/SeinfeldS4E18TheOldMan The Old Man]]" about needing to listen to "the alternative media" to get the truth is a little harder to listen to in the age of "alternative facts", where less humorous conspiracy theorists distrust mainstream media and will be more likely to believe fringe theories instead.
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* FriendlyFandoms: With ''Series/{{TwinPeaks}}'', even though the genres of shows couldn't be further apart, due to the sheer amount of actors who played in both series. This has even led to the trend of "Seinpeaks" memes, which consists of image and video mashups of both shows[[note]]like [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/e9/7d/23e97dba8ebdeb6ddf4ac899264d154f.jpg here]], [[https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1280869677565120512/d6TpGiyG_400x400.jpg here]] and [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIpqxM9W4AAQ88y?format=jpg&name=large here]][[/note]].
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** [[https://youtu.be/-ZeQ_lGgabk?feature=shared&t=92 This Promo during the Super Bowl]] features George comin up with a football play that involves the Quarterback feigning a heart attack, with players gathering around, only to get up and pass. The oddball concept of the play seemed funny until a Monday Night Football game between the Buffalo Bills and the Cincinnati Bengals on January 2, 2023. During the first quarter, Bills safety Damar Hamlin suddenly collapsed after tackling Bengals' wide receiver Tee Higgins. Unlike George's hypothetical play, this was a real medical emergency, as Hamlin actually suffered cardiac arrest. The game was stopped and ultimately ended under a no contest. Thankfully, Hamlin would recover, but George's idea seems much less funny after such a harrowing scene.
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** [[https://youtu.be/-ZeQ_lGgabk?feature=shared&t=92 This Promo during the Super Bowl]] features George comin coming up with a football play that involves the Quarterback feigning a heart attack, with players gathering around, only to get up and pass. The oddball concept of the play seemed funny until a Monday Night Football game between the Buffalo Bills and the Cincinnati Bengals on January 2, 2023. During the first quarter, Bills safety Damar Hamlin suddenly collapsed after tackling Bengals' wide receiver Tee Higgins. Unlike George's hypothetical play, this was a real medical emergency, as Hamlin actually suffered cardiac arrest. The game was stopped and ultimately ended under a no contest. Thankfully, Hamlin would recover, but George's idea seems much less funny after such a harrowing scene.
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** In "The Voice," Jerry and George have an argument about Iron Man, concerning whether or not he wears clothes under his armor. Jerry believes he's clothed, while George insists that "He's naked under there!" Well, George lost that one. [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse He's not naked under there.]]
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** In "The Voice," Jerry and George have an argument about Iron Man, concerning whether or not he wears clothes under his armor. Jerry believes he's clothed, while George insists that "He's naked under there!" Well, George lost that one. [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse He's not naked under there.]]]]Phoney.
** In "The Finale", Jerry and George tell Elaine that it's a social faux pas to call someone asking about the health of their family member in the hospital from a cell phone, and it's much more respectful to use a landline. These days, almost nobody has a landline phone.
** In "The Finale", Jerry and George tell Elaine that it's a social faux pas to call someone asking about the health of their family member in the hospital from a cell phone, and it's much more respectful to use a landline. These days, almost nobody has a landline phone.
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* MisBlamed: In the finale, Babu's story of how Jerry ruined his life is treated InUniverse as a MoralEventHorizon by the jury and seals the group's fate. The {{irony}} being that it's one of the few things that ''wasn't'' Jerry's fault. Babu failed at running a restaurant because he was a poor businessman and he got deported because the mailman was incompetent. Plus, Babu apparently never even tried to get replacement visa renewal papers.
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** In "[[Recap/SeinfeldS5E6TheLipReader The Lip Reader]]", viewers who know American Sign Language note that Creator/MarleeMatlin correctly indicated that the two characters they were eavesdropping on said, "we'll sweep together" and it was ''Kramer'' (who wasn't a fluent in sign language as he claimed to be) that was at fault for the line being misinterpreted as "we'll sleep together", leading to disaster for George.
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** In "[[Recap/SeinfeldS5E6TheLipReader The Lip Reader]]", viewers who know American Sign Language note that Creator/MarleeMatlin correctly indicated that the two characters they were eavesdropping on said, "we'll sweep together" and it was ''Kramer'' (who wasn't a fluent in sign language as he claimed to be) that was at fault for the line being misinterpreted as "we'll sleep together", leading to disaster for George. Kramer also signs gibberish when he meets her--his signs are correct, but they're for random words--"know ", "monkey", "dance"--and he isn't forming a coherent sentence, hence her confusedly signing back "I don't know what you're saying". Though they can later be seen conversing easily.
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* MemeticBadass: George Costanza of all people is this. Since the Yankees won their first World Series in two decades after George Costanza started working for them, people like to jokingly claim various failing sports teams need to hire him.
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** While George and Jerry's panicked, self-conscious NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat response to being MistakenForGay in "[[Recap/SeinfeldS4E17TheOuting The Outing]]" makes the two seem more homophobic [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny by today's standards]], the sentiments expressed were groundbreaking for a series in the '90s -- making the joke about the two male friends' insecurity in a time and place that they acknowledged as being homophobic, stressing that the problem was their own. There’s also some decent examples of ValuesResonance in the episode, especially with how Kramer is upset that Jerry and George didn’t tell him about being gay, showing that he is supportive. “I thought we were friends!” The scene with the gay soldier is also obviously critical of the US military’s homophobic policies at the time. Season 7's "The Wig Master" outright has a man ask another man on a date, and it's depicted as a perfectly normal thing for two people to do (Jerry even gets offended by the assumption that ''he's not'' seeing one of the men in question).
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** While George and Jerry's panicked, self-conscious NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat response to being MistakenForGay in "[[Recap/SeinfeldS4E17TheOuting The Outing]]" makes the two seem more homophobic [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny [[OnceOriginalNowCommon by today's standards]], the sentiments expressed were groundbreaking for a series in the '90s -- making the joke about the two male friends' insecurity in a time and place that they acknowledged as being homophobic, stressing that the problem was their own. There’s also some decent examples of ValuesResonance in the episode, especially with how Kramer is upset that Jerry and George didn’t tell him about being gay, showing that he is supportive. “I thought we were friends!” The scene with the gay soldier is also obviously critical of the US military’s homophobic policies at the time. Season 7's "The Wig Master" outright has a man ask another man on a date, and it's depicted as a perfectly normal thing for two people to do (Jerry even gets offended by the assumption that ''he's not'' seeing one of the men in question).
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* ValuesResonance: Part of the reason it has so much staying power despite the inevitable SeinfeldIsUnfunny is that every generation can find something about the comedy that they can relate to, no matter how much has changed since TheNineties.
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* ValuesResonance: Part of the reason it has so much staying power despite the inevitable SeinfeldIsUnfunny OnceOriginalNowCommon is that every generation can find something about the comedy that they can relate to, no matter how much has changed since TheNineties.
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* OnceOriginalNowCommon: So much so, that the trope was formerly known as "Seinfeld Is Unfunny". The show was revolutionary in its day--but everything revolutionary about it, from its observational humor to its UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist cast, is now the standard for [[SitCom sitcoms]] made since. Many of the innovations that seem obvious today nearly fell victim to ExecutiveMeddling, and the show also had to deal with more conventions like the LaughTrack that modern shows dispense with. Among other things:
** The "show about nothing" refrain may not have been how the show was actually pitched, but it was sure seen that way in its heyday. In UsefulNotes/TheEighties, most {{sitcom}}s lived and died by their gimmicks; most were family comedies distinguished by an unusual idea like [[Series/GrowingPains a generational divide]] or [[Series/{{Alf}} a wacky alien]]. ''Seinfeld'' had no such gimmicks, which is what made it stand out: it was intended to work entirely on the strength of its plots, jokes, and characters. Nowadays, there are a ton of shows that are just a SliceOfLife about a circle of friends who have [[SeinfeldianConversation random conversations]] and never undergo any real CharacterDevelopment.
** The concept of having the multiple running plots somehow intersect with each other in the climax was extremely novel at the time (and indeed, it seems to have become a self-imposed challenge for the writers to make the subplots as disparate as humanly possible but ''still'' manage to connect them somehow). Previously, A plots and B plots were almost completely segregated from each other.
** The frank discussions of sexuality were beyond the norm for sitcoms of the era. Nowadays, it's not a big deal for a primetime comedy to discuss (and joke about) homosexuality, pornography, masturbation, and contraception.
** The famous bass-heavy musical cues were groundbreaking for their minimalism; back then, sitcoms tended to use more elaborate scene transition music. Nowadays, most sitcoms tend to be even more reserved with their musical transitions, and ''Seinfeld'''s are not particularly special. ''Seinfeld'' was also one of the first sitcoms to relegate its musical cues entirely to scene transitions; sitcoms of the era had special {{Sentimental Music Cue}}s for dramatic moments, which ''Seinfeld'' dispensed with almost entirely.
** ProductPlacement on television was pioneered in part by ''Seinfeld''. Back then, the idea of name-dropping real brands instead of using a BlandNameProduct was so foreign that ''Seinfeld'''s producers paid the ''companies'' for the right to use their products. Nowadays, it's so common that it's the other way around; companies are paying the producers. At the very least, ''Seinfeld'' can take solace in its insistence of the real-life products always being used in bizarre and not always flattering scenarios.
** Some specific episodes that were considered groundbreaking at the time but nothing special nowadays:
*** Season 2's "The Chinese Restaurant" was the point where the show first started GrowingTheBeard -- it's 23 minutes of nothing but the characters waiting, complaining, and bantering in the eponymous restaurant while they wait for a table. Nowadays, it's fairly standard. But in 1990, it was unheard of -- to the point that [[ExecutiveMeddling the executives]] thought there were pages missing from the script and fought tooth and nail against it, all the way to the airdate, fearing that [[ItWillNeverCatchOn it would be a disaster]]. It was groundbreaking and well-received; even compared to later seasons of ''Seinfeld'', it wasn't particularly brilliant, but the humor and quality of all those later episodes owe a lot to this one.
*** "The Betrayal" went BackToFront, telling the story backwards. At the time, no TV episode had done it. Nowadays, it's been done to death. While it was rare and surprising back then, it wasn't entirely unknown; indeed, it's an homage to Harold Pinter's 1978 play ''Betrayal'' and its 1983 film adaptation, both of which use the same reverse-chronological plot structure.
** The "show about nothing" refrain may not have been how the show was actually pitched, but it was sure seen that way in its heyday. In UsefulNotes/TheEighties, most {{sitcom}}s lived and died by their gimmicks; most were family comedies distinguished by an unusual idea like [[Series/GrowingPains a generational divide]] or [[Series/{{Alf}} a wacky alien]]. ''Seinfeld'' had no such gimmicks, which is what made it stand out: it was intended to work entirely on the strength of its plots, jokes, and characters. Nowadays, there are a ton of shows that are just a SliceOfLife about a circle of friends who have [[SeinfeldianConversation random conversations]] and never undergo any real CharacterDevelopment.
** The concept of having the multiple running plots somehow intersect with each other in the climax was extremely novel at the time (and indeed, it seems to have become a self-imposed challenge for the writers to make the subplots as disparate as humanly possible but ''still'' manage to connect them somehow). Previously, A plots and B plots were almost completely segregated from each other.
** The frank discussions of sexuality were beyond the norm for sitcoms of the era. Nowadays, it's not a big deal for a primetime comedy to discuss (and joke about) homosexuality, pornography, masturbation, and contraception.
** The famous bass-heavy musical cues were groundbreaking for their minimalism; back then, sitcoms tended to use more elaborate scene transition music. Nowadays, most sitcoms tend to be even more reserved with their musical transitions, and ''Seinfeld'''s are not particularly special. ''Seinfeld'' was also one of the first sitcoms to relegate its musical cues entirely to scene transitions; sitcoms of the era had special {{Sentimental Music Cue}}s for dramatic moments, which ''Seinfeld'' dispensed with almost entirely.
** ProductPlacement on television was pioneered in part by ''Seinfeld''. Back then, the idea of name-dropping real brands instead of using a BlandNameProduct was so foreign that ''Seinfeld'''s producers paid the ''companies'' for the right to use their products. Nowadays, it's so common that it's the other way around; companies are paying the producers. At the very least, ''Seinfeld'' can take solace in its insistence of the real-life products always being used in bizarre and not always flattering scenarios.
** Some specific episodes that were considered groundbreaking at the time but nothing special nowadays:
*** Season 2's "The Chinese Restaurant" was the point where the show first started GrowingTheBeard -- it's 23 minutes of nothing but the characters waiting, complaining, and bantering in the eponymous restaurant while they wait for a table. Nowadays, it's fairly standard. But in 1990, it was unheard of -- to the point that [[ExecutiveMeddling the executives]] thought there were pages missing from the script and fought tooth and nail against it, all the way to the airdate, fearing that [[ItWillNeverCatchOn it would be a disaster]]. It was groundbreaking and well-received; even compared to later seasons of ''Seinfeld'', it wasn't particularly brilliant, but the humor and quality of all those later episodes owe a lot to this one.
*** "The Betrayal" went BackToFront, telling the story backwards. At the time, no TV episode had done it. Nowadays, it's been done to death. While it was rare and surprising back then, it wasn't entirely unknown; indeed, it's an homage to Harold Pinter's 1978 play ''Betrayal'' and its 1983 film adaptation, both of which use the same reverse-chronological plot structure.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: {{Trope Namer|s}}. It's hard to believe that this was considered ''pushing the boundaries of network censorship and sitcom conventions'' back in the day, not to mention how most sitcoms today copy the show's premise of {{jerkass}} city-dwellers getting into trouble (cf. ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'') or a neurotic comedian doing stand-up and having awkward encounters with others (''Series/{{Louie}}'').
