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* AwesomeMusic: Music/{{Helmet}}’s “Monochrome” is, as with [[Music/{{Mudvayne}} “Forget To Remember”]] in the previous film, a kickass AlternativeMetal way to end the movie. [[https://youtu.be/tWA-gXd1USk?si=OB3jm1B8VGJRZD72 The video even has Billy The Puppet singing the track!]]

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Music/{{Helmet}}’s “Monochrome” is, as with [[Music/{{Mudvayne}} “Forget To Remember”]] in the previous film, a kickass AlternativeMetal way to end the movie. [[https://youtu.be/tWA-gXd1USk?si=OB3jm1B8VGJRZD72 The video even has Billy The Puppet singing the track!]]
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* AwesomeMusic: Music/{{Helmet}}’s “Monochrome” is, as with [[Music/{{Mudvayne}} “Forget To Remember”]] in the previous film, a kickass AlternativeMetal way to end the movie. [[https://youtu.be/tWA-gXd1USk?si=OB3jm1B8VGJRZD72 The video even has Billy The Puppet singing the track!]]
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* MemeticLoser: Jeff. Ever since WebVideo/DeadMeat's kill count video for ''Saw III'' coined the nickname, quite a few people within the fanbase have referred to him as "Slow-Ass Motherfuckin' Jeff" for making dumb decision after dumb decision, like taking ''way'' too much time to decide whether to save the people in the traps or let them die, [[spoiler:killing John and causing Lynn's death]], and even [[spoiler:pointing his gun ''at an armed FBI agent'' and getting himself killed]] in [[Film/SawIV the next movie]].

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* MemeticLoser: Jeff. Ever since WebVideo/DeadMeat's kill count video for ''Saw III'' coined the nickname, quite a few people within the fanbase have referred to him as "Slow-Ass Motherfuckin' Jeff" for making dumb decision after dumb decision, decision and seeming lack of urgency in a life and death situation, like taking ''way'' too much time to decide whether to save the people in the traps or let them die, [[spoiler:killing John and causing Lynn's death]], and even [[spoiler:pointing his gun ''at an armed FBI agent'' and getting himself killed]] in [[Film/SawIV the next movie]].
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: And that is ''really'' saying something given this series, which just makes the film all the more divisive (granted, it was originally meant to close the series before ExecutiveMeddling turned it around). Jeff is a stubborn, mopey jerk who never appears to learn his lesson, likable characters like Kerry and Lynn are killed off horribly, Amanda becomes a full on sadistic monster, and John per usual is a psychopathic hypocrite. There are so little people to root for here it's almost a relief when we reach the predictable DownerEnding.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: And that is ''really'' saying something given this series, which just makes the film all the more divisive (granted, it was originally meant to close the series before ExecutiveMeddling turned it around). Jeff is a stubborn, mopey jerk who never appears to learn his lesson, likable characters like Kerry [[spoiler:Kerry and Lynn Lynn]] are killed off horribly, Amanda becomes a full on sadistic monster, and John per usual is a psychopathic hypocrite. There are so little people to root for here it's almost a relief when we reach the predictable DownerEnding.
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as the link points out, the blooper is from a flashback scene in Saw 3D, not in Saw III itself


* SpecialEffectFailure: It's not easy to notice, but during the brain surgery, [[https://i.redd.it/482a5sd6xwl41.jpg a pair of fingers from a prop actor can be seen throwing blood on Lynn's face]].
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** What’s left of [[spoiler:Lynn in the Shotgun Collar]] when it activates. [[YourHeadAsplode Eurgh!]]

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** What’s left of [[spoiler:Lynn [[spoiler:[[YourHeadAsplode Lynn in the Shotgun Collar]] Collar]]]] when it activates. [[YourHeadAsplode Eurgh!]]Eurgh!
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** What’s left of [[spoiler:Lynn in the Shotgun Collar]] when it activates. [[YourHeadAsplode Eurgh!]]
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: And that is ''really'' saying something given this series, which just makes the film all the more divisive (granted, it was meant to be the original finale before ExecutiveMeddling turned it around). Jeff is a stubborn, mopey jerk who never appears to learn his lesson, likable characters like Kerry and Lynn are killed off horribly, Amanda becomes a full on sadistic monster, and John per usual is a psychopathic hypocrite. There are so little people to root for here it's almost a relief when we reach the predictable DownerEnding.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: And that is ''really'' saying something given this series, which just makes the film all the more divisive (granted, it was originally meant to be close the original finale series before ExecutiveMeddling turned it around). Jeff is a stubborn, mopey jerk who never appears to learn his lesson, likable characters like Kerry and Lynn are killed off horribly, Amanda becomes a full on sadistic monster, and John per usual is a psychopathic hypocrite. There are so little people to root for here it's almost a relief when we reach the predictable DownerEnding.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: And that is ''really'' saying something given these movies, which just made the film all the more divisive. Jeff is a stubborn, mopey Jerkass who never learns his lesson, likable characters like Kerry and Lynn are killed off horribly, Amanda becomes a full on sadistic monster, and John per usual is a psychopathic hypocrite. There are so little people to root for here it's almost a relief when we reach the predictable DownerEnding.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: And that is ''really'' saying something given these movies, this series, which just made makes the film all the more divisive. divisive (granted, it was meant to be the original finale before ExecutiveMeddling turned it around). Jeff is a stubborn, mopey Jerkass jerk who never learns appears to learn his lesson, likable characters like Kerry and Lynn are killed off horribly, Amanda becomes a full on sadistic monster, and John per usual is a psychopathic hypocrite. There are so little people to root for here it's almost a relief when we reach the predictable DownerEnding.
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* TheScrappy: Even before WebVideo/DeadMeat made him a further joke, Jeff was very disliked for taking way too much time to do literally anything and for screwing things up once he eventually got down to doing them, resulting in the deaths of six people including [[spoiler: his own wife]].

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* TheScrappy: Even before WebVideo/DeadMeat made him a further joke, joke by coining the FanNickname "Slow-Ass Motherfucking Jeff", Jeff was very disliked for taking way too much time to do literally anything and for screwing things up once he eventually got down to doing them, resulting in the deaths of six people including [[spoiler: his own wife]].

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The series' Franchise Original Sin examples have been moved to their own page.


* FranchiseOriginalSin:
** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply escape or survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula (be it entirely or partially in proportion to their runtime) with minimal changes to its basis (at most just playing around with it while prioritizing differences on the surrounding circumstances instead), eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.
** Then there's Jeff's constant inaction and mistakes, which result in the deaths of several of the people he's tasked with saving. While it doesn't do much to make him a likeable or sympathetic protagonist, it at least makes sense in the context of the film itself, given that Jeff is shown to be a broken-down wreck of a man when the plot starts, and the people in the traps are ones he has a personal grudge against. By contrast, future ''Saw'' film protagonists are people who should theoretically be competent, and they actually ''would'' want to save the victims caught in the traps, making their own similar failures much more glaring.
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''YMMV/SawI'' | ''YMMV/SawII'' | '''''Saw III''''' | ''YMMV/SawIV'' | ''YMMV/SawV'' | ''YMMV/SawVI'' | ''YMMV/Saw3D'' | ''YMMV/{{Jigsaw}}'' | ''[[YMMV/Spiral2021 Spiral]]'' | ''Film/SawX''-]]]]]

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''YMMV/SawI'' | ''YMMV/SawII'' | '''''Saw III''''' | ''YMMV/SawIV'' | ''YMMV/SawV'' | ''YMMV/SawVI'' | ''YMMV/Saw3D'' | ''YMMV/{{Jigsaw}}'' | ''[[YMMV/Spiral2021 Spiral]]'' | ''Film/SawX''-]]]]]''YMMV/SawX''-]]]]]
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* FoeYayShipping: Despite Lynn being married to Jeff and Amanda being very confrontational towards her, many like to ship Lynn and Amanda together.

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* FoeYayShipping: Despite Lynn being married to Jeff and Amanda being very confrontational towards her, many fans like to ship Lynn and Amanda together.
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''YMMV/SawI'' | ''YMMV/SawII'' | '''''Saw III''''' | ''YMMV/SawIV'' | ''YMMV/SawV'' | ''YMMV/SawVI'' | ''YMMV/Saw3D'' | ''YMMV/{{Jigsaw}}'' | ''[[YMMV/Spiral2021 Spiral]]''-]]]]]

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''YMMV/SawI'' | ''YMMV/SawII'' | '''''Saw III''''' | ''YMMV/SawIV'' | ''YMMV/SawV'' | ''YMMV/SawVI'' | ''YMMV/Saw3D'' | ''YMMV/{{Jigsaw}}'' | ''[[YMMV/Spiral2021 Spiral]]''-]]]]]Spiral]]'' | ''Film/SawX''-]]]]]



* FoeYayShipping: Despite Lynn being married to Jeff, many prefer to ship her with Amanda instead.

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* FoeYayShipping: Despite Lynn being married to Jeff, Jeff and Amanda being very confrontational towards her, many prefer like to ship her with Lynn and Amanda instead.together.
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** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula (be it entirely or partially in proportion to their runtime) with minimal changes to its basis (at most just playing around with it while prioritizing differences on the surrounding circumstances instead), eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.

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** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply escape or survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula (be it entirely or partially in proportion to their runtime) with minimal changes to its basis (at most just playing around with it while prioritizing differences on the surrounding circumstances instead), eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: And that is ''really'' saying something given these movies, which just made the film all the more divisive. Jeff is a stubborn, mopey Jerkass who never learns his lesson, likable characters like Kerry and Lynn are killed off horribly, Amanda becomes a full on sadistic monster, and John per usual is a psychopathic hypocrite. There are so little people to root for here it's almost a relief when we reach the predictable DownerEnding.
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* {{Wangst}}: Jeff suffers from this badly. Understandably, he is still grieving the death of his young son two years after the accident that caused it happened, but to the point that he can't function properly, ignores his still-living daughter and isn't able complete ''any'' of his tasks by himself, which results in getting several people killed, [[spoiler:including his wife. He also directly kills John, believing that he actually did some good as a means to an end. He eventually gets his from Strahm in ''Saw IV'']].

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* {{Wangst}}: Jeff suffers from this badly. Understandably, he is still grieving the death of his young son two years after the accident that caused it happened, but to the point that he can't function properly, ignores his still-living daughter and isn't able to complete ''any'' of his tasks by himself, which results in getting several people killed, [[spoiler:including his wife. He also directly kills John, believing that he actually did some good as a means to an end. He eventually gets his from Strahm in ''Saw IV'']].
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** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula (be it entirely or partially in proportion to their runtime) with minimal changes to its basis (at most just playing around with it while prioritizing differences on the surrounding circumstance instead), eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.

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** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula (be it entirely or partially in proportion to their runtime) with minimal changes to its basis (at most just playing around with it while prioritizing differences on the surrounding circumstance circumstances instead), eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.
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** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula with minimal changes (be it entirely or partially in proportion to their runtime), eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.

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** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula with minimal changes (be it entirely or partially in proportion to their runtime), runtime) with minimal changes to its basis (at most just playing around with it while prioritizing differences on the surrounding circumstance instead), eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.
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** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves are generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula with minimal changes (be it entirely or partially in proportion to their runtime), eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.

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** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves are generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula with minimal changes (be it entirely or partially in proportion to their runtime), eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.
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** Jeff's constant inaction and mistakes, which result in the deaths of several of the people he's tasked with saving. While it doesn't do much to make him a likeable or sympathetic protagonist, it at least makes sense in the context of the film itself, given that Jeff is shown to be a broken-down wreck of a man when the plot starts, and the people in the traps are ones he has a personal grudge against. By contrast, future ''Saw'' film protagonists are people who should theoretically be competent, and they actually ''would'' want to save the victims caught in the traps, making their own similar failures much more glaring.

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** Then there's Jeff's constant inaction and mistakes, which result in the deaths of several of the people he's tasked with saving. While it doesn't do much to make him a likeable or sympathetic protagonist, it at least makes sense in the context of the film itself, given that Jeff is shown to be a broken-down wreck of a man when the plot starts, and the people in the traps are ones he has a personal grudge against. By contrast, future ''Saw'' film protagonists are people who should theoretically be competent, and they actually ''would'' want to save the victims caught in the traps, making their own similar failures much more glaring.
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** Jeff's constant inaction and mistakes, which result in the deaths of several of the people he's tasked with saving. While it doesn't do much to make him a likeable or sympathetic protagonist, it at least makes sense in the context of the film itself, given that Jeff is shown to be a broken-down wreck of a man when the present plot starts, and the people in the traps are ones he has a personal grudge against. By contrast, future ''Saw'' film protagonists are people who should theoretically be competent, and they actually ''would'' want to save the victims caught in the traps, making their own similar failures much more glaring.

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** Jeff's constant inaction and mistakes, which result in the deaths of several of the people he's tasked with saving. While it doesn't do much to make him a likeable or sympathetic protagonist, it at least makes sense in the context of the film itself, given that Jeff is shown to be a broken-down wreck of a man when the present plot starts, and the people in the traps are ones he has a personal grudge against. By contrast, future ''Saw'' film protagonists are people who should theoretically be competent, and they actually ''would'' want to save the victims caught in the traps, making their own similar failures much more glaring.
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** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves are generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula with minimal changes, eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.

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** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves are generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula with minimal changes, changes (be it entirely or partially in proportion to their runtime), eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.
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** Jeff's constant inaction and mistakes, which result in the deaths of several of the people he's tasked with saving. While it doesn't do much to make him a likeable or sympathetic protagonist, it at least makes sense in the context of the film itself, given that Jeff is shown to be a broken-down wreck of a man when the storyline starts, and the people in the traps are ones he has a personal grudge against. By contrast, future ''Saw'' film protagonists are people who should theoretically be competent, and the people caught in the traps are ones they actually ''would'' want to save, making their own similar failures much more glaring.

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** Jeff's constant inaction and mistakes, which result in the deaths of several of the people he's tasked with saving. While it doesn't do much to make him a likeable or sympathetic protagonist, it at least makes sense in the context of the film itself, given that Jeff is shown to be a broken-down wreck of a man when the storyline present plot starts, and the people in the traps are ones he has a personal grudge against. By contrast, future ''Saw'' film protagonists are people who should theoretically be competent, and the people caught in the traps are ones they actually ''would'' want to save, save the victims caught in the traps, making their own similar failures much more glaring.
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* FranchiseOriginalSin:
** This was the first entry in the series to adopt the formula of a person undertaking a series of traps in which they themselves are generally aren't in any mortal danger, but have to save the lives of people who are somehow connected to them, while learning some sort of life lesson on the way. Here, it made for a new approach after the first two ''Saw'' films, in which the goal was for the protagonists to simply survive the situation they were in. Many of the future sequels would fall back on this formula with minimal changes, eventually causing fans to complain that the series had grown stale.
** Jeff's constant inaction and mistakes, which result in the deaths of several of the people he's tasked with saving. While it doesn't do much to make him a likeable or sympathetic protagonist, it at least makes sense in the context of the film itself, given that Jeff is shown to be a broken-down wreck of a man when the storyline starts, and the people in the traps are ones he has a personal grudge against. By contrast, future ''Saw'' film protagonists are people who should theoretically be competent, and the people caught in the traps are ones they actually ''would'' want to save, making their own similar failures much more glaring.
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* {{Wangst}}: Jeff suffers from this badly. Understandably, he is still grieving the death of his young son two years after the accident that caused it happened, but to the point that he can't function, ignores his still-living daughter or isn't able complete ''any'' of his tasks by himself, which results in getting several people killed, [[spoiler:including his wife. He also directly kills John, believing that he actually did some good as a means to an end. He eventually gets his from Strahm in ''Saw IV'']].

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* {{Wangst}}: Jeff suffers from this badly. Understandably, he is still grieving the death of his young son two years after the accident that caused it happened, but to the point that he can't function, function properly, ignores his still-living daughter or and isn't able complete ''any'' of his tasks by himself, which results in getting several people killed, [[spoiler:including his wife. He also directly kills John, believing that he actually did some good as a means to an end. He eventually gets his from Strahm in ''Saw IV'']].
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* {{Wangst}}: Jeff suffers from this badly. Understandably, he is still grieving the death of his young son, but to the point that he can't function, ignores his surviving daughter or complete ''any'' of his tasks, which results in getting several people killed, [[spoiler:including his wife. He also kills John Kramer via a SlashedThroat, believing that he actually did some good as a means to an end. He eventually gets his from Strahm in ''Saw IV'']].

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* {{Wangst}}: Jeff suffers from this badly. Understandably, he is still grieving the death of his young son, son two years after the accident that caused it happened, but to the point that he can't function, ignores his surviving still-living daughter or isn't able complete ''any'' of his tasks, tasks by himself, which results in getting several people killed, [[spoiler:including his wife. He also directly kills John Kramer via a SlashedThroat, John, believing that he actually did some good as a means to an end. He eventually gets his from Strahm in ''Saw IV'']].

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