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** There's also the frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel, not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric (which Waters claimed was unintentional), or by images that have circulated online showing [[https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N37X0TS/ one of the pig balloons flown at his concerts that was emblazoned with a Star of David]] amongst various symbols of oppression.

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** There's also the frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel, not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric (which Waters claimed was unintentional), or by images that have circulated online showing [[https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N37X0TS/ one of the pig balloons flown at his concerts that was emblazoned with included a Star of David]] amongst various symbols of oppression.
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** There's also the frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel, not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric, which Waters claimed was unintentional, or by images that have circulated online showing [[https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N37X0TS/ one of the pig balloons flown at his concerts that was emblazoned with a Star of David]] amongst various symbols of oppression.

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** There's also the frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel, not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric, which rhetoric (which Waters claimed was unintentional, unintentional), or by images that have circulated online showing [[https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N37X0TS/ one of the pig balloons flown at his concerts that was emblazoned with a Star of David]] amongst various symbols of oppression.
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** While Pink Floyd is still best known for their music, Waters himself is better known for his on-and-off feuding with his former bandmates.
** There's also the frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel (not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric, which Waters claimed was unintentional).

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** While Pink Floyd is still best known for their music, Waters himself is better known for his on-and-off feuding with his former bandmates.
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** There's also the frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel (not Israel, not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric, which Waters claimed was unintentional).unintentional, or by images that have circulated online showing [[https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N37X0TS/ one of the pig balloons flown at his concerts that was emblazoned with a Star of David]] amongst various symbols of oppression.
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** ''The Dark Side of the Moon Redux'' was made because in Waters' eyes, "not enough people recognised what [the Pink Floyd album was] about, what it was I was saying then". His re-recording of the entire album adds several monologues that spell out the messages of greed, conflict, religion, mortality and mental illness directly to the audience. Album opener "Speak to Me" even includes a recitation of the lyrics to a different Pink Floyd song, "Free Four", which itself is a summation of all of ''Dark Side'' in four minutes.
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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in UsefulNotes/{{Poland}}, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the (internationally condemned and by and large considered unprovoked) UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n invasion of UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine by accusing them and UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} of causing the invasion by "provoking" Russia, while Poland has provided a lot of material and humanitarian help to its direct neighbor country and welcomed millions of refugees. After Waters wrote an open letter encouraging Ukraine to surrender, the authorities of the city of Kraków canceled his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declared him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia, a country whose relationship with Poland has never been sunny.

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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in UsefulNotes/{{Poland}}, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the (internationally condemned and by and large considered unprovoked) UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n invasion of UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine by accusing them and UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} of causing the invasion by "provoking" Russia, while Poland has provided a lot of military material and humanitarian help to its direct neighbor country and welcomed millions of refugees. After Waters wrote an open letter encouraging Ukraine to surrender, the authorities of the city of Kraków canceled his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declared him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia, a country whose relationship with Poland has never been sunny.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Everything he has written, starting from Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon. Especially Music/TheFinalCut and Music/IsThisTheLifeWeReallyWant

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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in UsefulNotes/{{Poland}}, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the (internationally condemned and by and large considered unprovoked) UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n invasion of UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine by accusing them and UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} of causing the invasion by "provoking" Russia. After Waters wrote an open letter encouraging Ukraine to surrender, the authorities of the city of Kraków canceled his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declared him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia, a country whose relationship with Poland has never been sunny.

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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in UsefulNotes/{{Poland}}, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the (internationally condemned and by and large considered unprovoked) UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n invasion of UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine by accusing them and UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} of causing the invasion by "provoking" Russia.Russia, while Poland has provided a lot of material and humanitarian help to its direct neighbor country and welcomed millions of refugees. After Waters wrote an open letter encouraging Ukraine to surrender, the authorities of the city of Kraków canceled his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declared him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia, a country whose relationship with Poland has never been sunny.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: Waters was the bassist of Music/PinkFloyd who took the reins of the band in the '70s, being responsible for their most critically and commercially successful material before leaving in 1985. While Pink Floyd is still best known for their music, Waters himself is better known for his on-and-off feuding with his former bandmates, frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel (not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric, which Waters claimed was unintentional), and his support for Russia during the Russo-Ukrainian War. The latter especially came to define his reputation after the second leg of the war began in 2022 thanks to him being even more vocal in his accusations of Ukraine, leading to many people calling him a mouthpiece for UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin. He's also achieved notoriety as a serial monogamist, currently on his fifth marriage, though nowhere near Creator/LarryKing or Creator/ElizabethTaylor levels.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: Waters was the bassist of Music/PinkFloyd who took the reins of the band in the '70s, being responsible for their most critically and commercially successful material before leaving in 1985. OvershadowedByControversy:
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While Pink Floyd is still best known for their music, Waters himself is better known for his on-and-off feuding with his former bandmates, bandmates.
** There's also the
frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel (not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric, which Waters claimed was unintentional), and his support for Russia during unintentional).
** His vocal opinions on
the Russo-Ukrainian War. The latter war, especially came to define his reputation after since the second leg of Russian invasion that started in 2022, in which he has blamed UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} and UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} for "provoking" UsefulNotes/{{Russia}} and called Ukraine to surrender, embracing Russian narratives for the war began in 2022 thanks to him being even more vocal in his accusations of Ukraine, leading that is otherwise by and large considered an unprovoked Russian aggression by international law. It led to many people calling him a mouthpiece for UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin. UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin.
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He's also achieved notoriety as a serial monogamist, currently on his fifth marriage, though nowhere near Creator/LarryKing or Creator/ElizabethTaylor levels.
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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the (internationally condemned and by and large considered unprovoked) Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine by accusing them and NATO of causing the invasion by "provoking" Russia. After Waters wrote an open letter encouraging Ukraine to surrender, the authorities of the city of Kraków canceled his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declared him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia, a country whose relationship with Poland has never been sunny.

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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in Poland, UsefulNotes/{{Poland}}, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the (internationally condemned and by and large considered unprovoked) Russian UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n invasion of Ukraine UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine by accusing them and NATO UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} of causing the invasion by "provoking" Russia. After Waters wrote an open letter encouraging Ukraine to surrender, the authorities of the city of Kraków canceled his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declared him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia, a country whose relationship with Poland has never been sunny.



* OvershadowedByControversy: Waters was the bassist of Music/PinkFloyd who took the reins of the band in the '70s, being responsible for their most critically and commercially successful material before leaving in 1985. While Pink Floyd is still best known for their music, Waters himself is better known for his on-and-off feuding with his former bandmates, frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel (not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric, which Waters claimed was unintentional), and his support for Russia during the Russo-Ukrainian War. The latter especially came to define his reputation after the second leg of the war began in 2022 thanks to him espousing pro-Russian narratives, leading to many people calling him a mouthpiece for UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin. He's also achieved notoriety as a serial monogamist, currently on his fifth marriage, though nowhere near Creator/LarryKing or Creator/ElizabethTaylor levels.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: Waters was the bassist of Music/PinkFloyd who took the reins of the band in the '70s, being responsible for their most critically and commercially successful material before leaving in 1985. While Pink Floyd is still best known for their music, Waters himself is better known for his on-and-off feuding with his former bandmates, frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel (not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric, which Waters claimed was unintentional), and his support for Russia during the Russo-Ukrainian War. The latter especially came to define his reputation after the second leg of the war began in 2022 thanks to him espousing pro-Russian narratives, being even more vocal in his accusations of Ukraine, leading to many people calling him a mouthpiece for UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin. He's also achieved notoriety as a serial monogamist, currently on his fifth marriage, though nowhere near Creator/LarryKing or Creator/ElizabethTaylor levels.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Waters was the bassist of Music/PinkFloyd who took the reins of the band in the '70s, being responsible for their most critically and commercially successful material before leaving in 1985. While Pink Floyd is still best known for their music, Waters himself is better known for his on-and-off feuding with his former bandmates, frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel (not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric, which Waters claimed was unintentional), and his support for Russia during the Russo-Ukrainian War. The latter especially came to define his reputation after the second leg of the war began in 2022 thanks to him espousing pro-Russian narratives, leading to many people calling him a mouthpiece for UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: Waters was the bassist of Music/PinkFloyd who took the reins of the band in the '70s, being responsible for their most critically and commercially successful material before leaving in 1985. While Pink Floyd is still best known for their music, Waters himself is better known for his on-and-off feuding with his former bandmates, frequent accusations of antisemitism thanks to his vocal support for Palestinian liberation in Israel (not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric, which Waters claimed was unintentional), and his support for Russia during the Russo-Ukrainian War. The latter especially came to define his reputation after the second leg of the war began in 2022 thanks to him espousing pro-Russian narratives, leading to many people calling him a mouthpiece for UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin. He's also achieved notoriety as a serial monogamist, currently on his fifth marriage, though nowhere near Creator/LarryKing or Creator/ElizabethTaylor levels.

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* OvershadowedByControversy:
** Since launching his solo career in the '80s, Waters has received a lot of negative press over his feud with the other members of Pink Floyd.
** Starting in TheNewTens, he was dogged by accusations of antisemitism, a highly contentious label due to his outspoken support of the Palestinian cause. Waters also claimed that the 2013 Ghouta chemical attack on civilians in Syria was a false flag operation.
** Waters subsequently attracted criticism for saying that the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine was provoked by NATO expansion into countries neighboring Russia and denounced Western military aid to Ukraine. For all of these reasons, some Pink Floyd fans have jokingly compared Waters to former [[Music/TheSmiths Smiths]] frontman Music/{{Morrissey}}.

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* OvershadowedByControversy:
** Since launching his solo career
OvershadowedByControversy: Waters was the bassist of Music/PinkFloyd who took the reins of the band in the '80s, '70s, being responsible for their most critically and commercially successful material before leaving in 1985. While Pink Floyd is still best known for their music, Waters has received a lot of negative press over himself is better known for his feud on-and-off feuding with the other members of Pink Floyd.
** Starting in TheNewTens, he was dogged by
his former bandmates, frequent accusations of antisemitism, a highly contentious label due antisemitism thanks to his outspoken vocal support of the for Palestinian cause. liberation in Israel (not helped by remarks on the Israeli government that paralleled antisemitic rhetoric, which Waters also claimed that the 2013 Ghouta chemical attack on civilians in Syria was a false flag operation.
** Waters subsequently attracted criticism
unintentional), and his support for saying that the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine was provoked by NATO expansion into countries neighboring Russia and denounced Western military aid during the Russo-Ukrainian War. The latter especially came to Ukraine. For all define his reputation after the second leg of these reasons, some Pink Floyd fans have jokingly compared Waters the war began in 2022 thanks to former [[Music/TheSmiths Smiths]] frontman Music/{{Morrissey}}.him espousing pro-Russian narratives, leading to many people calling him a mouthpiece for UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin.
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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the (internationally condemned and by and large considered unprovoked) Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine for "provoking" Russia and thus causing the invasion. This caused the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia.

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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the (internationally condemned and by and large considered unprovoked) Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine for by accusing them and NATO of causing the invasion by "provoking" Russia and thus causing the invasion. This caused Russia. After Waters wrote an open letter encouraging Ukraine to surrender, the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel canceled his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare declared him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia.Russia, a country whose relationship with Poland has never been sunny.



* TearJerker: Many, both in Pink Floyd and solo. Notable examples from his solo career include "5:06 AM (Every Stranger's Eyes)" from ''Pros and Cons'', the story of Bill Hubbard that BookEnds ''Amused to Death'' (although the ending section doubles as a SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}), and the images on the wall during "Bring the Boys Back Home" during ''The Wall'' tour.

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* TearJerker: Many, both in Pink Floyd and solo. Notable examples from his solo career include "5:06 AM (Every Stranger's Eyes)" from ''Pros and Cons'', the story of Bill Hubbard that BookEnds ''Amused to Death'' ''Music/AmusedToDeath'' (although the ending section doubles as a SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}), and the images on the wall during "Bring the Boys Back Home" during ''The Wall'' tour.



** ''Amused To Death'', nowadays seen as a worthy CreatorDrivenSuccessor to Waters' Floyd-era material (to the point where he himself rated in 2014 as equal to ''The Dark Side of the Moon'' and ''The Wall''), was pretty low-selling compared to the Gilmour-era Floyd releases, and the controversy of "What God Wants, Part 1" and its accompanying music video led to MTV and radio passing on promoting the album (Waters also refused to tour behind it). However, it has since gained in status, to the point where it received a high-resolution remaster in 2015.

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** ''Amused To Death'', ''Music/AmusedToDeath'', nowadays seen as a worthy CreatorDrivenSuccessor to Waters' Floyd-era material (to the point where he himself rated in 2014 as equal to ''The Dark Side of the Moon'' and ''The Wall''), was pretty low-selling compared to the Gilmour-era Floyd releases, and the controversy of "What God Wants, Part 1" and its accompanying music video led to MTV and radio passing on promoting the album (Waters also refused to tour behind it). However, it has since gained in status, to the point where it received a high-resolution remaster in 2015.
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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the (by and large condemned and considered unprovoked) Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine for "provoking" Russia and thus causing the invasion. This caused the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia.

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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the (by and large (internationally condemned and by and large considered unprovoked) Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine for "provoking" Russia and thus causing the invasion. This caused the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia.
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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine for "provoking" Russia and thus causing the invasion. This caused the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia.

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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he got this in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the (by and large condemned and considered unprovoked) Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine for "provoking" Russia and thus causing the invasion. This caused the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia.
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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he became this in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, where blames Ukraine for "provoking" Russia and thus causing the invasion. This caused the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a non-wanted person in the city. Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia.

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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he became got this in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, where blames as he essentially victim-blamed Ukraine for "provoking" Russia and thus causing the invasion. This caused the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a [[PersonaNonGrata non-wanted person in the city. city.]] Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia.
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* AcceptableTargets: Waters makes frequent digs at Creator/SylvesterStallone as a symbol of warmongering American culture for his portrayal of John Rambo in the ''Franchise/{{Rambo}}'' movies.

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* AmericansHateTingle: In a sad turn of events, he became this in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, where blames Ukraine for "provoking" Russia and thus causing the invasion. This caused the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a non-wanted person in the city. Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia.



* PersonaNonGrata: In a sad turn of events, he became one in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His views on the Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, where blames Ukraine for "provoking" Russia and thus causing the invasion. This caused the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a non-wanted person in the city. Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The song "Each Small Candle" about the suffering caused by UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars, in light of Waters' own critical views on UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} since the full scale unprovoked invasion of the country in 2022 by UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}, which he blamed Ukraine for "provoking".

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* HarsherInHindsight: The song "Each Small Candle" about the suffering caused by UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars, in light of Waters' own critical views opinions on UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} since the full scale unprovoked invasion of the country in 2022 by UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}, which he blamed Ukraine and UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} for "provoking".
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* HarsherInHindsight: The song "Each Small Candle" about the suffering caused by UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars, in light of Waters' own critical views on UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} since the full scale invasion of the country in 2022 by UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}, which he blamed Ukraine for "provoking".

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* HarsherInHindsight: The song "Each Small Candle" about the suffering caused by UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars, in light of Waters' own critical views on UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} since the full scale unprovoked invasion of the country in 2022 by UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}, which he blamed Ukraine for "provoking".

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* HarsherInHindsight: The song "Each Small Candle" about the suffering caused by UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars, in light of Waters' own pro-Russian opinions about and victim-shaming of UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} since the full scale unprovoked invasion of the country in 2022 by UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The song "Each Small Candle" about the suffering caused by UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars, in light of Waters' own pro-Russian opinions about and victim-shaming of critical views on UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} since the full scale unprovoked invasion of the country in 2022 by UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}.UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}, which he blamed Ukraine for "provoking".



* OvershadowedByControversy: Since launching his solo career in the '80s, Waters has received a lot of negative press over his feud with the other members of Pink Floyd. Starting in TheNewTens, he was dogged by accusations of antisemitism. Waters also claimed that the 2013 Ghouta chemical attack on civilians in Syria was a false flag operation. Waters subsequently attracted criticism for saying that the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine was provoked by NATO expansion into countries neighboring Russia and denounced Western military aid to Ukraine. For all of these reasons, some Pink Floyd fans have jokingly compared Waters to former [[Music/TheSmiths Smiths]] frontman Music/{{Morrissey}}.
* PersonaNonGrata: In a sad turn of events, he became one in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His pro-Russian stance and victim-shaming Ukraine for being invaded by Russia caused the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a non-wanted person in the city. Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly pro-Russian.

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Since launching his solo career in the '80s, Waters has received a lot of negative press over his feud with the other members of Pink Floyd. Floyd.
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Starting in TheNewTens, he was dogged by accusations of antisemitism.antisemitism, a highly contentious label due to his outspoken support of the Palestinian cause. Waters also claimed that the 2013 Ghouta chemical attack on civilians in Syria was a false flag operation.
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Waters subsequently attracted criticism for saying that the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine was provoked by NATO expansion into countries neighboring Russia and denounced Western military aid to Ukraine. For all of these reasons, some Pink Floyd fans have jokingly compared Waters to former [[Music/TheSmiths Smiths]] frontman Music/{{Morrissey}}.
* PersonaNonGrata: In a sad turn of events, he became one in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His pro-Russian stance and victim-shaming views on the Russian invasion of Ukraine attracted controversy, where blames Ukraine for being invaded by "provoking" Russia and thus causing the invasion. This caused the authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a non-wanted person in the city. Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly pro-Russian.critical of Ukraine and defensive of Russia.
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* PersonaNonGrata: In a sad turn of events, he became one in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His pro-Russian stance and victim-shaming Ukraine for being invaded by Russia caused the autorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a non-wanted person in the city. Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly pro-Russian.

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* PersonaNonGrata: In a sad turn of events, he became one in Poland, where he always had a very large fanbase. His pro-Russian stance and victim-shaming Ukraine for being invaded by Russia caused the autorities authorities of the city of Kraków to cancel his forthcoming 2023 concerts on the spot and declare him a non-wanted person in the city. Waters tried to have his concerts moved to another Polish city, but no local promoter was interested in cooperating with someone so outspokenly pro-Russian.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Since launching his solo career in the '80s, Waters has received a lot of negative press over his feud with the other members of Pink Floyd. Starting in TheNewTens, he was dogged by accusations of antisemitism. Waters also claimed that the 2013 Ghouta chemical attack on civilians was a false flag operation. Waters subsequently attracted criticism for saying that the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine was provoked by NATO expansion into countries neighboring Russia and denounced Western military aid to Ukraine. For all of these reasons, some Pink Floyd fans have jokingly compared Waters to former [[Music/TheSmiths Smiths]] frontman Music/{{Morrissey}}.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: Since launching his solo career in the '80s, Waters has received a lot of negative press over his feud with the other members of Pink Floyd. Starting in TheNewTens, he was dogged by accusations of antisemitism. Waters also claimed that the 2013 Ghouta chemical attack on civilians in Syria was a false flag operation. Waters subsequently attracted criticism for saying that the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine was provoked by NATO expansion into countries neighboring Russia and denounced Western military aid to Ukraine. For all of these reasons, some Pink Floyd fans have jokingly compared Waters to former [[Music/TheSmiths Smiths]] frontman Music/{{Morrissey}}.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Since launching his solo career in the '80s, Waters has received a lot of negative press over his feud with the other members of Pink Floyd. The TheNewTens, he was dogged by accusations of antisemitism. Waters also claimed that the 2013 Ghouta chemical attack on civilians was a false flag operation. Waters subsequently attracted criticism for saying that the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine was provoked by NATO expansion into countries neighboring Russia and denounced Western military aid to Ukraine. For all of these reasons, some Pink Floyd fans have jokingly compared Waters to former [[Music/TheSmiths Smiths]] frontman Music/{{Morrissey}}.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: Since launching his solo career in the '80s, Waters has received a lot of negative press over his feud with the other members of Pink Floyd. The Starting in TheNewTens, he was dogged by accusations of antisemitism. Waters also claimed that the 2013 Ghouta chemical attack on civilians was a false flag operation. Waters subsequently attracted criticism for saying that the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine was provoked by NATO expansion into countries neighboring Russia and denounced Western military aid to Ukraine. For all of these reasons, some Pink Floyd fans have jokingly compared Waters to former [[Music/TheSmiths Smiths]] frontman Music/{{Morrissey}}.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Since launching his solo career in the '80s, Waters has received a lot of negative press over his feud with the other members of Pink Floyd. The TheNewTens, he was dogged by accusations of antisemitism. Waters also claimed that the 2013 Ghouta chemical attack on civilians was a false flag operation. Waters subsequently attracted criticism for saying that the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine was provoked by NATO expansion into countries neighboring Russia and denounced Western military aid to Ukraine. For all of these reasons, some Pink Floyd fans have jokingly compared Waters to former [[Music/TheSmiths Smiths]] frontman Music/{{Morrissey}}.
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* NeverLiveItDown:
** Spitting on a fan in 1977.
** He's the poster child for IAmTheBand, to the point where the back cover of ''Music/TheFinalCut'' with the infamous credit, "By Roger Waters, Performed by Pink Floyd" was the page image for a time. The bad blood between himself and the Waters-less Floyd over the rights to the name "Pink Floyd"; 30+ years and plenty of mellowing out, reconciliation and reunions/semi-reunions later, Waters is still asked questions in interviews about the feud in the 2020s.
** His statements regarding the 2022 UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n invasion of UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}}, basically victim-shaming Ukraine for the war and aping whatever the Russian official propaganda said (even though Waters once claimed he hates UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin), especially since Music/PinkFloyd (Gilmour and Mason) supports humanitarian efforts for Ukraine and the country's resistance to Russia, notably with their single "Hey, Hey, Rise Up" made with local musician Andriy Khlyvnyuk. This already cost him a large fanbase in UsefulNotes/{{Poland}} (a neighbor of Ukraine and a country heavily involved in humanitarian and military aid to Ukrainians).
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* HarsherInHindsight: The pacifist song "Each Small Candle" made after the first UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars, in light of Waters' own opinions about and victim-shaming of UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} since the full scale unprovoked invasion of the country in 2022 by UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The pacifist song "Each Small Candle" made after about the first suffering caused by UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars, in light of Waters' own pro-Russian opinions about and victim-shaming of UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} since the full scale unprovoked invasion of the country in 2022 by UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The pacifist song "Each Small Candle" made after the first UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars, in light of Waters' own opinions about and victim-shaming of UsefulNotes/{{Ukraine}} since the full scale unprovoked invasion of the country in 2022 by UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}.

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