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* DieForOurShip: The Susan/Caspian shippers, despite the fact that there's absolutely no mention of it in the books, they never see each other again, and Caspian marries Ramandu's daughter at the end of Voyage of the Dawn Treader. Curse you Andrew Adamson for [[ExecutiveMeddling including that kiss]].

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* DieForOurShip: The Susan/Caspian shippers, despite the fact that there's absolutely no mention of it in the books, they never see each other again, and Caspian marries Ramandu's daughter at the end of Voyage ''Voyage of the Dawn Treader.Treader''. Curse you Andrew Adamson for [[ExecutiveMeddling including that kiss]].

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This just doesn't seem to fit Alternative Character Interpretation. It's claiming that Miraz is stupid rather than offering an alternate slant on his actions, and the thing it's claiming he's stupid for is not stupid at all because he has to remove Caspian for his son to have any right to the throne and that's explicitly why he does it.


** Miraz himself comes across as rather stupid, especially when he plans to kill Caspian once Pruaprismia gives birth to a son. It shows a lack of contingency on his part, since a son and a nephew would be better at preventing a SuccessionCrisis, yet still wants to remove one of his heirs from the equation. On the other hand, Caspian was getting close to the age where he could make a bid for the throne, and had the better claim as the son of the previous king. So once a son is born to Miraz, Caspian could easily start rallying supporters to overthrow him, making it more proactive to take him out before he has a chance to.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Reepicheep the Mouse only plays a supporting role but became one of the most beloved characters.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Reepicheep the Mouse only plays a supporting role but became one of the most beloved characters.characters in the series for his status as a chivalrous knight and BoisterousBruiser despite his small size.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Susan and Lucy partying with Bacchus while the boys rescue Caspian. It has no impact on the plot, the mythology crossover is never explained, and it's never mentioned again.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Reepicheep the Mouse only plays a supporting role but became one of the most beloved characters.
* {{Sequelitis}}: This was the second book published (though the fourth chronologically), and it's commonly regarded as the weakest.



* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Susan and Lucy partying with Bacchus while the boys rescue Caspian. It has no impact on the plot, the mythology crossover is never explained, and it's never mentioned again.



* SophomoreSlump: Sort of. This was the second book published (though the fourth chronologically), and it's commonly regarded as the weakest. The film is a mixed bag. Some felt it was a step down, others loved it.

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* SophomoreSlump: Sort of. This was the second book published (though the fourth chronologically), and it's commonly regarded as the weakest. The film is a mixed bag. Some felt it was a step down, others loved it.
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** The film adds the possibility that Susan's [[spoiler: denial of Narnia]] later in the series is due to the romance that could never happen with Caspian.

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** The film adds the possibility that Susan's [[spoiler: denial [[spoiler:denial of Narnia]] later in the series is due to the romance that could never happen with Caspian.
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** The film adds the possibility that Susan's [[spoiler: eventual denial of Narnia]] is due to the romance that could never happen with Caspian.

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** The film adds the possibility that Susan's [[spoiler: eventual denial of Narnia]] later in the series is due to the romance that could never happen with Caspian.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Telmarines become a FantasyCounterpartCulture of Mediterranean cultures - WordOfGod wanting to emphasise their pirate origins. In order to avoid AlwaysChaoticEvil, Prunaprismia and Glozelle are given AdaptationalHeroism.



* SalvagedStory: The Telmarines become a FantasyCounterpartCulture of Mediterranean cultures - WordOfGod wanting to emphasise their pirate origins. In order to avoid AlwaysChaoticEvil, Prunaprismia and Glozelle are given AdaptationalHeroism.



* WhatAnIdiot: The assault on the castle in ''Prince Caspian'' (which did ''not'' happen in the book) gave huge helpings of this to Peter. To be fair, everyone from Caspian to ''[[TheHeart Lucy]]'' calls him out on it. Caspian also deserves a share of this one because it was ''his'' fault in the first place that they lost the element of surprise; he went into the castle with his own agenda and despite the obvious results of him changing the plan in the middle of a StealthBasedMission he shows no responsibility or remorse for his actions. To maintain order among the Narnian army, Peter has no choice but to let it go and share the blame.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: ''Prince Caspian'' was allegedly a children's movie and rated as PG. But despite that, ''Prince Caspian'' is probably the highest-bodycount, generally-dark movie to be given a PG rating since ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' spurred the creation of PG-13. In addition, the villains here are not just some fantastical creatures, but [[AdultFear men and women]] who WouldHurtAChild.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: ''Prince Caspian'' was allegedly a children's movie and rated as PG. But despite that, ''Prince Caspian'' is probably the highest-bodycount, generally-dark movie to be given a PG rating since ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' spurred the creation of PG-13. In addition, the villains here are not just some fantastical creatures, but [[AdultFear men and women]] women who WouldHurtAChild.

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** Miraz himself comes across as rather stupid, especially when he plans to kill Caspian once Pruaprismia gives birth to a son. It shows a lack of contingency on his part, since a son and a nephew would be better at preventing a SuccessionCrisis, yet still wants to remove one of his heirs from the equation.

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** Miraz himself comes across as rather stupid, especially when he plans to kill Caspian once Pruaprismia gives birth to a son. It shows a lack of contingency on his part, since a son and a nephew would be better at preventing a SuccessionCrisis, yet still wants to remove one of his heirs from the equation. On the other hand, Caspian was getting close to the age where he could make a bid for the throne, and had the better claim as the son of the previous king. So once a son is born to Miraz, Caspian could easily start rallying supporters to overthrow him, making it more proactive to take him out before he has a chance to.



* HarsherInHindsight: The use of "The Call" at the end of ''Prince Caspian'' will likely become this if a film adaptation of ''The Last Battle'' is made.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The use of "The Call" at the end of ''Prince Caspian'' will likely become this if a film adaptation of ''The Last Battle'' is made. And since it's unlikely the film adaptation will ever be made with this series's cast and crew, Peter and Susan as we know them here will never be seen in Narnia again.



* {{Narm}}: Some of the film's attempt at SnarkToSnarkCombat seems especially forced.
--> '''Reepicheep:''' I was expecting someone...taller.
--> '''Trumpkin:''' You're one to talk.
--> '''Reepicheep:''' Was that supposed to be irony?



* RetroactiveRecognition: [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]] is slightly grumpier, but quite recognizable.

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[[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]] is slightly grumpier, but quite recognizable.
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** Were Sopespian and the other Telmarines who went along with the FinalBattle really that invested in its outcome? They were [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating more than happy to let Peter kill Miraz]], and only pin his death on the Narnians to cover their own asses. Had Caspian averted the need for BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork, they might well have accepted his sovereignty with no further bloodshed.

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* OneSceneWonder: Tilda Swinton returns as Jadis for one scene, as an expansion of a point in the book where they consider resurrecting her.

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* OneSceneWonder: Tilda Swinton Creator/TildaSwinton returns as Jadis for one scene, as an expansion of a point in the book where they consider resurrecting her. her.
* PresumedFlop: The film was declared a flop due to its Box Office performance leading Disney to drop ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' as a franchise, and 20th Century Fox adapting ''Film/TheVoyageOfTheDawnTreader'' instead. It did perform slightly lower than expected, since it was released as a summer blockbuster and ended up competing with ''Film/IronMan1'', but it still grossed $419 million (nearly twice its budget).
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** Miraz himself comes across as rather stupid, especially when he plans to kill Caspian once Pruaprismia gives birth to a son. It shows a lack of contingency on his part, since a son and a nephew would be better at preventing a SuccessionCrisis, yet still wants to remove one of his heirs from his equation.

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** Miraz himself comes across as rather stupid, especially when he plans to kill Caspian once Pruaprismia gives birth to a son. It shows a lack of contingency on his part, since a son and a nephew would be better at preventing a SuccessionCrisis, yet still wants to remove one of his heirs from his the equation.
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** Miraz himself comes across as rather stupid, especially when he plans to kill Caspian once Pruaprismia gives birth to a son. It shows a lack of contingency on his part, since a son and a nephew would be better at preventing a SuccessionCrisis, yet still wants to remove one of his heirs from his equation.
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* HilariousInHindsight: On the one hand, you have Ben Barnes, whose portrayal of Prince Caspian drew upon Inigo Montoya; and on the other you have Eddie Izzard, who based his [[{{Flynning}} sword-fighting]] mouse Reepicheep on Creator/ErrolFlynn, who also famously inspired Cary Elwes' performance. So their first meeting is really a ''Film/ThePrincessBride'' reunion by way of {{Captain Ersatz}}es.

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* HilariousInHindsight: On the one hand, you have Ben Barnes, whose portrayal of Prince Caspian drew upon Inigo Montoya; and on the other you have Eddie Izzard, who based his her [[{{Flynning}} sword-fighting]] mouse Reepicheep on Creator/ErrolFlynn, who also famously inspired Cary Elwes' performance. So their first meeting is really a ''Film/ThePrincessBride'' reunion by way of {{Captain Ersatz}}es.
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** [[Creator/BenBarnes Prince Caspian himself]] is [[Series/ThePunisher Billy Russo]].

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** [[Creator/BenBarnes Prince Caspian himself]] is [[Series/ThePunisher [[Series/ThePunisher2017 Billy Russo]].
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** [[Creator/BenBarnes Prince Caspian himself]] is [[Series/ThePunisher Billy Russo]].

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Music/ReginaSpektor 's "The Call" at the end of the movie.



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Music/ReginaSpektor 's "The Call" at the end of the movie.
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* SophomoreSlump: Sort of. This was the second book published - though the fourth chronologically - and it's commonly regarded as the weakest. The film is a mixed bag. Some felt it was a step down, others loved it.
* StrangledByTheRedString: The romance between Susan and Caspian is accused of this. There was none in the book and it was DoomedByCanon anyway. The whole thing is very chaste and never progresses beyond simple flirtation - culminating in a small kiss at the end. WordOfGod is that the romance was more detailed in the original script, but cut down to a more chaste thing because they wanted to avoid it taking over the movie.

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* SophomoreSlump: Sort of. This was the second book published - though (though the fourth chronologically - chronologically), and it's commonly regarded as the weakest. The film is a mixed bag. Some felt it was a step down, others loved it.
* StrangledByTheRedString: The romance between Susan and Caspian is accused of this. There was none in the book and it was DoomedByCanon anyway. The whole thing is very chaste and never progresses beyond simple flirtation - culminating flirtation--culminating in a small kiss at the end. WordOfGod is that the romance was more detailed in the original script, but cut down to a more chaste thing because they wanted to avoid it taking over the movie.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The film adds the possibility that Susan's [[spoiler: eventual denial of Narnia]] is due to the romance that could never happen with Caspian.

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The film adds the possibility that Susan's [[spoiler: eventual denial of Narnia]] is due to the romance that could never happen with Caspian.Caspian.
** In contrast to her stance as Queen Susan the Gentle, do Susan's rather aggressive tendencies on the battlefield come from somewhere else? She ruled as a Queen for fifteen years in what appears to be a progressive society - and then had to return to 1940s England where women were still in StayInTheKitchen roles. That's bound to make her long for the power and freedom she once had. Likewise women did serve roles in the war, but Susan as a teenage girl probably wouldn't be able to - thus frustrating her even more.
* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Telmarines become a FantasyCounterpartCulture of Mediterranean cultures - WordOfGod wanting to emphasise their pirate origins. In order to avoid AlwaysChaoticEvil, Prunaprismia and Glozelle are given AdaptationalHeroism.



* BrokenBase: The Caspian and Susan romance. Some invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks and StrangledByTheRedString. Others were happy Susan had something to actually do in the film (as she did very little in the book) and liked the foreshadowing to her eventual fate.

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The Caspian and Susan romance. Some invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks and StrangledByTheRedString. Others were happy Susan had something to actually do in the film (as she did very little in the book) and liked the foreshadowing to her eventual fate.fate.
** There's also Susan becoming an ActionGirl. In the book her adult self is described as not liking fighting [[NeutralFemale "like an ordinary grown up lady"]], which is why she was named Queen Susan the Gentle. On the other hand both Anna Popplewell and Andrew Adamson said "if she was going to StayInTheKitchen she should have been given a slab of bread and some butter, and not a bow and arrow."



* EnsembleDarkHorse: The geek at the train station ([[FanNickname Warren]]) gained a fan club when some fans decided they didn't like the way Susan's and Caspian's [[PromotedToLoveInterest relationship was treated]] and that "[[FanNickname Phyllis]]" was a much better pairing.

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The geek at the train station ([[FanNickname Warren]]) gained a fan club when some fans decided they didn't like the way Susan's and Caspian's [[PromotedToLoveInterest relationship was treated]] and that "[[FanNickname Phyllis]]" was a much better pairing.

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