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* NeverLiveItDown: Detractors of Goh generally hold to a few select periods of the series where Goh takes up a larger balance of the show's focus than Ash and hold it as an ongoing criticism of the series and of Goh specifically, specifically to the status of being a SpotlightStealingSquad to Ash. The first period of the show considered a SlowPacedBeginning (see below) is one such moment, while another is the period of time in the mid thirties to somewhere in the fifties of episode where Ash's World Coronation Series goal is either in the background or played for comedy, Ash has a visible lack of roster changes while Goh captures not just ''many'' more Pokemon but several ones that the fans had hoped Ash would obtain (such as Aerodactyl, Flygon, and Grookey) while many of Ash's own Pokemon are also out of focus, the [[https://serebii.net/anime/pictures/pokemon/1140/DP14.jpg montage of several offscreen Ash battles while Goh's captures are rarely offscreen]], and Goh's goals and interests directed the pace of the series significantly more than Ash's. While both of these stretches eventually remedied themselves, many detractors tend to see these periods as their definitive reference for the series, often citing the fact that many of these problems still exist out of them, just as lesser levels, to further their criticisms.

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Detractors of Goh generally hold to a few select periods of the series where Goh takes up a larger balance of the show's focus than Ash and hold it as an ongoing criticism of the series and of Goh specifically, specifically to the status of being a SpotlightStealingSquad to Ash. The first period of the show considered a SlowPacedBeginning (see below) is one such moment, while another is the period of time in the mid thirties to somewhere in the fifties of episode where Ash's World Coronation Series goal is either in the background or played for comedy, Ash has a visible lack of roster changes while Goh captures not just ''many'' more Pokemon but several ones that the fans had hoped Ash would obtain (such as Aerodactyl, Flygon, and Grookey) while many of Ash's own Pokemon are also out of focus, the [[https://serebii.net/anime/pictures/pokemon/1140/DP14.jpg montage of several offscreen Ash battles while Goh's captures are rarely offscreen]], and Goh's goals and interests directed the pace of the series significantly more than Ash's. While both of these stretches eventually remedied themselves, many detractors tend to see these periods as their definitive reference for the series, often citing the fact that many of these problems still exist out of them, just as lesser levels, to further their criticisms.
** When discussing the relevance of Chloe, critics tend to focus on the forty-odd episodes before Eevee's capture than afterwards where her focus has been more frequent.



** Ash defeats ''A Champion'' in the form of Iris caught the fanbase off guard as Champions have traditionally been shown as basically untouchable by Ash or those at his level.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: While ''Journeys'' incorporating elements from ''VideoGame/PokemonGo'' has been somewhat controversial (especially in regards to how Goh is handled), the fact that Eggs were changed from having unique designs to being only the generic colors and shades seen in ''Go'' (and to a degree, the main series games) was one of the worst-received results of this by a part of the fanbase as it was one of the better received elements of the anime that had been consistent for more than two decades before ''Journeys''.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: While ''Journeys'' incorporating elements from ''VideoGame/PokemonGo'' has been somewhat controversial (especially in regards to how Goh is handled), the fact that Eggs were changed from having unique designs to being only the generic colors and shades seen in ''Go'' (and to a degree, the main series games) was one of the worst-received results of this by a part of the fanbase as it the variation in egg colorations was one of the better received elements of the anime over the games that had been consistent for more than two decades before ''Journeys''.


* When [=JN087=] aired, some were disappointed that May was not brought back, considering she herself has a Glaceon and and that she and Chloe could've bonded over their initial disinterest in Pokemon.

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* ** When [=JN087=] aired, some were disappointed that May was not brought back, considering she herself has a Glaceon and and that she and Chloe could've bonded over their initial disinterest in Pokemon.

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* When [=JN087=] aired, some were disappointed that May was not brought back, considering she herself has a Glaceon and and that she and Chloe could've bonded over their initial disinterest in Pokemon.


* FranchiseOriginalSin:
** Ash has had a co-lead before, most famously in the form of Dawn. At several points Dawn would take the lead as the focus character even in the midst of what might be considered an Ash focused storyline, such as during the Maylene episodes where she took a lead in roughly half of the four episodes. Fans have more problems with Goh doing this than Dawn due to it being perceived as more often and more intrusive to Ash's focus.
** It has been in Ash's nature at several points to have the course of the journey dictated by those around him more than his own, notably with May and Dawn's Contests and Serena's Showcases. However this is perhaps the first series where such a occurrence has been widely criticized and disliked by a sizeable and vocal portion of the fanbase, with Goh's goals tending to dominate a large chunk of episode over Ash's being a frequent issue with such fans. Possible reasons for this being Goh's captures often occurring in episodes that would have once been considered filler thus giving the fans a feeling that Goh gets more focus than he actually is intended to, Goh's goal being relevant more frequently than the female companions and thus aggravating fans more, or just the fact that Goh's status as a designated co-lead means that any imbalance in focus is more tangible to the fanbase.


** Ash's capture of [[spoiler:Dracovish]] took many by surprise, not just because Ash never caught a [[spoiler:Fossil]] Pokémon before or already had a [[spoiler:Dragon]] Type on his team, but also because said Pokémon is just a ''really'' unconventional choice for Ash, in general.

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** Ash's capture of [[spoiler:Dracovish]] took many by surprise, not just because Ash never caught a [[spoiler:Fossil]] Pokémon before or already had a [[spoiler:Dragon]] Type [[spoiler:Dragon]]-type on his team, but also because said Pokémon is just a ''really'' unconventional choice for Ash, in general.


** It has been in Ash's nature at several points to have the course of the journey dictated by those around him more than his own, notably with May, Dawn, and Serena's contest and performances. However this is perhaps the first series where such a occurrence has been widely criticized and disliked by a sizeable and vocal portion of the fanbase, with Goh's goals tending to dominate a large chunk of episode over Ash's being a frequent issue with such fans. Possible reasons for this being Goh's captures often occurring in episodes that would have once been considered filler thus giving the fans a feeling that Goh gets more focus than he actually is intended to, Goh's goal being relevant more frequently than the female companions and thus aggravating fans more, or just the fact that Goh's status as a designated co-lead means that any imbalance in focus is more tangible to the fanbase.

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** It has been in Ash's nature at several points to have the course of the journey dictated by those around him more than his own, notably with May, Dawn, May and Dawn's Contests and Serena's contest and performances.Showcases. However this is perhaps the first series where such a occurrence has been widely criticized and disliked by a sizeable and vocal portion of the fanbase, with Goh's goals tending to dominate a large chunk of episode over Ash's being a frequent issue with such fans. Possible reasons for this being Goh's captures often occurring in episodes that would have once been considered filler thus giving the fans a feeling that Goh gets more focus than he actually is intended to, Goh's goal being relevant more frequently than the female companions and thus aggravating fans more, or just the fact that Goh's status as a designated co-lead means that any imbalance in focus is more tangible to the fanbase.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Throughout the anime series there has been numerous episodes where the topic of Pikachu's refusal to evolve into a Raichu gets brought up. However, Pikachu has the Gigantamax factor meaning he never had the ability to evolve in the first place, rendering all that drama about the subject pointless.


*** In episodes 6 and 14 Ash had expressed interest in catching Pokémonalongside Goh, but only Goh captured any during this episode despite no real showing of why Ash couldn't.

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*** In episodes 6 and 14 Ash had expressed interest in catching Pokémonalongside Pokémon alongside Goh, but only Goh captured any during this episode despite no real showing of why Ash couldn't.


** As said under BrokenBase, many believe the fact that Sobble and especially ''Grookey'' went to Goh instead of Ash is a waste of their potential as Goh is more of a catcher than a trainer.

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** As said under BrokenBase, many believe the fact that Sobble and especially ''Grookey'' ''especially'' Grookey went to Goh instead of Ash is a waste of their potential as Goh is more of a catcher than a trainer.Trainer.



** While the Alolan reunion episode is well-received, many fans are complaining that ''Chloe'' didn't get to enjoy it or that it was just one episode, with the only reason Ash and Goh are going there at all is so the latter can catch an Alolan Exeggutor. Ash being the Alola League Champion ''isn't even brought up'' until the second Alola episode
** While Ash not catching X Pokemon is a frequent case of wasting a character, Journeys at several points had set up clear interest to have Ash catch additional Pokemon, but did not follow up on it and thus contributed to the occasional periods of feeling like Goh was getting the lions share of the spotlight.
*** In episodes 6 and 14 Ash had expressed interest in catching Pokemon alongside Goh, but only Goh captured any during this episode despite no real showing of why Ash couldn't.
*** In episode 34 Goh expressed an interest in having Ash receive the Hitmon Pokemon that Goh did not choose as to trade it with Goh to have both registered to his Pokedex. This was a clear set up for Ash to obtain a Hitmonlee to match Goh's Hitmonchan and to advanced Goh's own goals, but it wasn't followed up on, with the excuse that Ash would need to heal Farfetch'd and Riolu after their loss to Bea being mitigated by the Karate Master requiring the same healing before his own match with Goh.

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** While the Alolan reunion episode is well-received, many fans are complaining that ''Chloe'' Chloe didn't get to enjoy it or that it was just one episode, with the only reason Ash and Goh are going there at all is so the latter can catch an Alolan Exeggutor. Ash being the Alola League Champion ''isn't even brought up'' until the second Alola episode
episode, in which the Melemele school crew doesn't even appear.
** While Ash not catching X Pokemon Pokémon is a frequent case of wasting a character, Journeys ''Journeys'' at several points had set up clear interest to have Ash catch additional Pokemon, Pokémon, but did not follow up on it and thus contributed to the occasional periods of feeling like Goh was getting the lions lions' share of the spotlight.
*** In episodes 6 and 14 Ash had expressed interest in catching Pokemon alongside Pokémonalongside Goh, but only Goh captured any during this episode despite no real showing of why Ash couldn't.
*** In episode 34 Goh expressed an interest in having Ash receive the Hitmon Pokemon Pokémon that Goh did not choose as to trade it with Goh to have both registered to his Pokedex.Pokédex. This was a clear set up for Ash to obtain a Hitmonlee to match Goh's Hitmonchan and to advanced Goh's own goals, but it wasn't followed up on, with the excuse that Ash would need to heal Farfetch'd and Riolu after their loss to Bea being mitigated by the Karate Master requiring the same healing before his own match with Goh.


* FranchiseOriginalSin: It has been in Ash's nature at several points to have the course of the journey dictated by those around him more than his own, notably with May, Dawn, and Serena's contest and performances. However this is perhaps the first series where such a occurrence has been widely criticized and disliked by a sizeable and vocal portion of the fanbase, with Goh's goals tending to dominate a large chunk of episode over Ash's being a frequent issue with such fans. Possible reasons for this being Goh's captures often occurring in episodes that would have once been considered filler thus giving the fans a feeling that Goh gets more focus than he actually is intended to, Goh's goal being relevant more frequently than the female companions and thus aggravating fans more, or just the fact that Goh's status as a designated co-lead means that any imbalance in focus is more tangible to the fanbase.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: FranchiseOriginalSin:
** Ash has had a co-lead before, most famously in the form of Dawn. At several points Dawn would take the lead as the focus character even in the midst of what might be considered an Ash focused storyline, such as during the Maylene episodes where she took a lead in roughly half of the four episodes. Fans have more problems with Goh doing this than Dawn due to it being perceived as more often and more intrusive to Ash's focus.
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It has been in Ash's nature at several points to have the course of the journey dictated by those around him more than his own, notably with May, Dawn, and Serena's contest and performances. However this is perhaps the first series where such a occurrence has been widely criticized and disliked by a sizeable and vocal portion of the fanbase, with Goh's goals tending to dominate a large chunk of episode over Ash's being a frequent issue with such fans. Possible reasons for this being Goh's captures often occurring in episodes that would have once been considered filler thus giving the fans a feeling that Goh gets more focus than he actually is intended to, Goh's goal being relevant more frequently than the female companions and thus aggravating fans more, or just the fact that Goh's status as a designated co-lead means that any imbalance in focus is more tangible to the fanbase.

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*** This went even farther in Sobble's case. It was given the dream of becoming an Inteleon after meeting one in episode 54, but on evolving itself in episode 62, it became depressed over having to go through the Drizzile stage first. It was then ''immediately'' PutOnABus, remaining at Cerise's Lab while Grookey became Goh's [[ReplacementGoldfish replacement shoulder pet]], and had no more major appearances until it evolved again 16 episodes later, at which point the audience were informed that it had been training in the background the whole time. This, alongside the "The Great Class Still Image Montage", fuelled further complaints about the series telling the audience the characters were developing rather than showing them.


** Ash using some of his old Pokémon, which he hasn't done since ''Black and White'' (with Charizard) and ''Diamond and Pearl'' (during the Sinnoh League). One of the first confirmed was fan favorite Infernape. This positive reception didn't last, however, as Infernape ended up having a rather disappointing showing in his episode being unable to defeat Moltres and being one-upped by Gary's Blastoise at fighting the Legendary Pokémon. To make matters worse was immediately left behind at Oak's again unceremoniously and there doesn't seems to be any indication that Ash is going to use him on any of the remaining PWC matches in either Hyper Class or Masters Eight (or any of Ash's old Pokémon for that matter).


* HypeBacklash: A minor example with episode 68. When a special preview was released showing a brief glimpse of Ash's Infernape battling a Moltres, fans of Diamond and Pearl were hyped to see the return of one of Ash's most popular Pokemon in such grandiose fashion after being absent for over a decade, especially when Infernape had never gotten a battle against a Legendary Pokemon unlike Charizard and Sceptile despite being widely regarded as one of Ash's strongest Pokemon. When the episode aired however, Infernape turned out to be an advertised extra, only very briefly fighting Moltres for less than a minute (Half of the battle practically fit into the preview) and dealing no noticeable damage against it, while the episode was actually more focused on reintroducing Ash's old rival Gary, who's Pokemon had a more noteworthy showing against Moltres. While fans were largely happy with Gary's showing, many DP fans ended up feeling baited by Infernape's role in the episode, declaring it underwhelming, especially in comparison to the aforementioned Charizard and Sceptile who actually won their battles against legendary Pokemon. That Infernape has only been referenced once since then, before Ash's battle with Volkner, with no clear indication it will return for a more active role later in the series didn't help.


* HypeBacklash: A minor example with episode 68. When a special preview was released showing a brief glimpse of Ash's Infernape battling a Moltres, fans of Diamond and Pearl were hyped to see the return of one of Ash's most popular Pokemon in such grandiose fashion after being absent for over a decade, especially when Infernape had never gotten a battle against a Legendary Pokemon unlike Charizard and Sceptile despite being widely regarded as one of Ash's strongest Pokemon. When the episode aired however, Infernape turned out to be an advertised extra, only very briefly fighting Moltres for less than a minute (Half of the battle practically fit into the preview) and dealing no noticeable damage against it, while the episode was actually more focused on reintroducing Ash's old rival Gary, who's Pokemon had a more noteworthy showing against Moltres. While fans were largely happy with Gary's showing, many DP fans ended up feeling baited by Infernape's role in the episode, declaring it underwhelming, especially in comparison to the aforementioned Charizard and Sceptile who actually won their battles against legendary Pokemon. That Infernape has only been referenced once since then, before Ash's battle with Volkner, since then with no clear indication it will return for a more active role later in the series didn't help.

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* HypeBacklash: A minor example with episode 68. When a special preview was released showing a brief glimpse of Ash's Infernape battling a Moltres, fans of Diamond and Pearl were hyped to see the return of one of Ash's most popular Pokemon in such grandiose fashion after being absent for over a decade, especially when Infernape had never gotten a battle against a Legendary Pokemon unlike Charizard and Sceptile despite being widely regarded as one of Ash's strongest Pokemon. When the episode aired however, Infernape turned out to be an advertised extra, only very briefly fighting Moltres for less than a minute (Half of the battle practically fit into the preview) and dealing no noticeable damage against it, while the episode was actually more focused on reintroducing Ash's old rival Gary, who's Pokemon had a more noteworthy showing against Moltres. While fans were largely happy with Gary's showing, many DP fans ended up feeling baited by Infernape's role in the episode, declaring it underwhelming, especially in comparison to the aforementioned Charizard and Sceptile who actually won their battles against legendary Pokemon. That Infernape has only been referenced once since then, before Ash's battle with Volkner, since then with no clear indication it will return for a more active role later in the series didn't help.


** Ash using some of his old Pokémon, which he hasn't done since ''Black and White'' (with Charizard) and ''Diamond and Pearl'' (during the Sinnoh League). One of the first confirmed was fan favorite Infernape.

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** Ash using some of his old Pokémon, which he hasn't done since ''Black and White'' (with Charizard) and ''Diamond and Pearl'' (during the Sinnoh League). One of the first confirmed was fan favorite Infernape. This positive reception didn't last, however, as Infernape ended up having a rather disappointing showing in his episode being unable to defeat Moltres and being one-upped by Gary's Blastoise at fighting the Legendary Pokémon. To make matters worse was immediately left behind at Oak's again unceremoniously and there doesn't seems to be any indication that Ash is going to use him on any of the remaining PWC matches in either Hyper Class or Masters Eight (or any of Ash's old Pokémon for that matter).

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