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* ThatOneLevel: You ''will'' find one that you will have a lot of trouble with. Take your pick.

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* ThatOneLevel: You ''will'' find one that you will have a lot of trouble with. Take your pick. Maze levels are possibly the worst offender, requiring you to navigate a ''whole'' level jumping, with little to no breaks. [[SchizophrenicDifficulty It's possible to have less deaths in Chapter 5 than Chapter 4 or 3 due to it not having one.]]


* StrangledByTheRedString: Related to the above, but Creator/HaydenChristensen and Rachel Bilson ''really'' don't have a lot of chemistry together in their roles as David and Millie, and Millie herself comes across as a bit of a third wheel.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Related to the above, but Creator/HaydenChristensen and Rachel Bilson Creator/RachelBilson ''really'' don't have a lot of chemistry together in their roles as David and Millie, and Millie herself comes across as a bit of a third wheel.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Davey and Millie's daughter Cent has proven a rather divisive entry to the series. On the one hand, her introduction extended extended the story into a new generation with new teleportation techniques, jumping going public, and the conspiracy from the second book getting defeated. The space travel via teleportation in the fourth book in particular is considered well developed. On the other hand, Cent herself is viewed as a CreatorsPet who is both overpowered and underchallenged. She single-handedly defeats said conspiracy (which failed to consider their containment systems susceptibility to vacuum despite Cent publicly going to space for several months and had its sole head show himself for no apparent reason after being extremely careful to maintain multiple layers of separation beforehand). She also develops a new acceleration technique (the aforementioned space travel), serves as a mouthpiece for Gould's own views on identity politics, and goes public with their mortal secret with almost no consultation with the previous main characters (her parents), who are reduced to secondary cheerleaders. This last particularly sticks in the craws of some readers, as the CharacterFocus of the final two novels that complete the series focuses on Cent exclusively.


* {{Basebreaker}}: The Cent duology that completed the series proved divisive. On the one hand, it extended the story into a new generation with new teleportation techniques, jumping going public, and the conspiracy from the second book getting defeated. The space travel via teleportation in the fourth book in particular is considered well developed. On the other hand, for some these positive developments are overshadowed by the new generation member, Cent, viewed as overpowered and underchallenged. She single-handedly defeats said conspiracy (which failed to consider their containment systems susceptibility to vacuum despite Cent publicly going to space for several months and had its sole head show himself for no apparent reason after being extremely careful to maintain multiple layers of separation beforehand). She also develops a new acceleration technique, the aforementioned space travel, and goes public with their mortal secret with almost no consultation with the previous main characters (her parents), who are reduced to secondary cheerleaders.


* {{Basebreaker}}: The Cent duology that completed the series proved divisive. On the one hand, it extended the story into a new generation with new teleportation techniques, jumping going public, and the conspiracy from the second book getting defeated. The space travel via teleportation in the second book in particular is considered well developed. On the other hand, for some these positive developments are overshadowed by the new generation member, Cent, viewed as overpowered and underchallenged. She single handedly defeats said conspiracy (which failed to consider their containment systems susceptibility to vacuum despite Cent publicly going there for several months and had it's sole head show himself for no apparent reason after being extremely careful to maintain multiple layers of separation beforehand). She also develops a new acceleration technique, the aforementioned space travel, and goes public with their mortal secret with almost no consultation with the previous main characters (her parents), who are reduced to secondary cheerleaders.

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* {{Basebreaker}}: The Cent duology that completed the series proved divisive. On the one hand, it extended the story into a new generation with new teleportation techniques, jumping going public, and the conspiracy from the second book getting defeated. The space travel via teleportation in the second fourth book in particular is considered well developed. On the other hand, for some these positive developments are overshadowed by the new generation member, Cent, viewed as overpowered and underchallenged. She single handedly single-handedly defeats said conspiracy (which failed to consider their containment systems susceptibility to vacuum despite Cent publicly going there to space for several months and had it's its sole head show himself for no apparent reason after being extremely careful to maintain multiple layers of separation beforehand). She also develops a new acceleration technique, the aforementioned space travel, and goes public with their mortal secret with almost no consultation with the previous main characters (her parents), who are reduced to secondary cheerleaders.


* {{Basebreaker}}: The Cent duology that completed the series proved divisive. On the one hand, it extended the story into a new generation with new teleportation techniques, jumping going public, and the conspiracy from the second book getting defeated. The space travel via teleportation in the second book in particular is considered well developed. On the other hand, for some these positive developments are overshadowed by the new generation member, Cent, viewed as overpowered and underchallenged. She single handedly defeats said conspiracy (which failed to consider their containment systems susceptibility to vacuum despite Cent publicly going there for several months and had it's sole head show himself for no apparent reason after being extremely careful to maintain multiple layers of separation beforehand). She also develops a new acceleration technique, the aforementioned space travel, and goes public with their mortal secret with almost no consultation with the previous main characters (her parents), who are reduced to secondary cheerleaders.



* DorkAge: Readers who are not fans of the Cent duology consider it to be one of these, arguing that the series would have been better served had it ended at ''Reflex''. Subjecting the NebulousEvilOrganization built up in ''Reflex'' to an extreme case of VillainDecay solely to build up Cent did not help matters.
* HarsherInHindsight (or maybe FunnyAneurysmMoment if you're that sort): [[spoiler:Did he just... Drop a plane-hijacking terrorist from the World Trade Center...?]] Brr...

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* DorkAge: Readers who are not fans of the Cent duology consider it to be one of these, arguing that as the series would have been better served had it ended at ''Reflex''. Subjecting the NebulousEvilOrganization built up in ''Reflex'' to an extreme case of suffers from strong VillainDecay solely without much buildup and the two main characters of the first books, Davy and Millie, are essentially static backdrops to build up Cent did not help matters.
the story of their child, Cent.
* HarsherInHindsight (or maybe FunnyAneurysmMoment if you're that sort): [[spoiler:Did he just... Drop HarsherInHindsight: The back half of ''Jumper'' is centered around Davy interceding in hijackings, which happen every few weeks. This was indeed a reasonably common event in the real world at the time of publishing, due to lax security and generally being viewed as hostage taking on a larger scale. 9/11 put a hard brake on their frequency, with upgraded security and crew and passengers unwilling to cede control to anyone for fear of getting flown into a building. There's even a specific incident where Davy repeatedly drops a plane-hijacking terrorist from the World Trade Center...?]] Brr...Center to return the terror.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: As noted above, the second novel in the tetralogy is largely devoted to building up a NebulousEvilOrganization as the big new villains. This group is then ''immediately'' subjected to VillainDecay in the third book, making the reader one why Gould even went to all the trouble of building it up in the first place.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: As noted above, the second novel in the tetralogy is largely devoted to building up a NebulousEvilOrganization as the big new villains. This group is then ''immediately'' subjected to VillainDecay in the third book, book (one operative and some local criminals are the full extent of their presence in the plot), making the reader one why Gould even went to all the trouble of building it up in the first place.


* BreakoutCharacter: Despite being the secondary hero (and ultimately becoming a BrokenPedestal), Griffin more or less stole the show from main hero David in the eyes of viewers, to the point where he got both a book ''and'' a video game based around his adventures. David, by contrast, had to content himself with one measly prequel comic.



* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Despite becoming a BrokenPedestal, Griffin more or less stole the show from main hero David in the eyes of viewers, to the point where he got both a book ''and'' a video game based around his adventures. David, by contrast, had to content himself with one measly prequel comic.



* {{Basebreaker}}: Though many old and new readers enjoyed them, a lot of fans of the first two books were less than enthused by the Cent duology that completed the series, with most complaints centered on the character herself, including calling her a MarySue. In that perspective, complaints include that she destroys the conspiracy that so strongly threatened her parents when its head inexplicably shows up to personally taunt her (after spending the rest of the series being extremely careful to stay several steps removed, and very careful to safeguard against all known parameters of teleportation) while she is sitting in a containment room susceptible to collapsing into a vacuum - IE space, the very place she had spent most of the book very publicly going to. She learns how to teleport and develops new techniques to employ within a few months that her parents with 4 decades of combined experience and intelligence never considered. In the last book, she launches an almost literally one woman space program while keeping her complete plan secret from everyone, including her parents (with minimal consequences and no demands for full disclosure when they learn she was going into space with no backup plan) - everyone else is only present for material, communications and positioning support. Everyone who meets her and isn't a full antagonist likes her; she's smart, funny, and brilliant, and gets acquiescence to every demand she makes. Her only flaw appears to be a desire to involve herself and help people at the risk of herself, which isn't a flaw.


* {{Anvilicious}}: If you drink, ''join AA''. If you know, are related to, or brush someone on the street who drinks, '''make them join AA''' and join Al-Anon yourself.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: If you drink, ''join AA''. If you know, are related to, or brush someone on the street who drinks, '''make them join AA''' and join Al-Anon yourself. In the later Cent novels, feminism takes the place of substance abuse as the author's pet cause of choice.


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* CreatorsPet: Author Gould is rather clearly enamored of his LegacyCharacter Cent in the third and fourth books, making her a mouthpiece for his political views to a much greater degree than Davy or Millie ever were. The reception of Cent was rather a bit ''mixed'' because of this, as noted above.
* DorkAge: Readers who are not fans of the Cent duology consider it to be one of these, arguing that the series would have been better served had it ended at ''Reflex''. Subjecting the NebulousEvilOrganization built up in ''Reflex'' to an extreme case of VillainDecay solely to build up Cent did not help matters.


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* LesYay: Cent and Hyacinth in ''Exo'', to the point where one wonders if Gould brought in Creator/ChrisClaremont for writing tips.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: As noted above, the second novel in the tetralogy is largely devoted to building up a NebulousEvilOrganization as the big new villains. This group is then ''immediately'' subjected to VillainDecay in the third book, making the reader one why Gould even went to all the trouble of building it up in the first place.

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* BreakoutCharacter: Despite being the secondary hero (and ultimately becoming a BrokenPedestal), Griffin more or less stole the show from main hero David in the eyes of viewers, to the point where he got both a book ''and'' a video game based around his adventures. David, by contrast, had to content himself with one measly prequel comic.


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* EscapistCharacter: David is set up as one of these before the Paladins are introduced. Come on, who didn't see that film and imagine what it would be like to live that kind of life?
* FridgeHorror: David leaves Roland at the end in a high cave deep in the Grand Canyon, far away from any tourists that might spot him and with no tools to climb down with. And Roland can't call for help, because his phone and any other devices he had on him just took an extended dunk in a river.... so unless Roland has a tracking device inside his body, he's been condemned to a slow, agonizing death of starvation or exposure. [[WhatTheHellHero What was that about not all Jumpers being evil]], David?
* HoYay: More than a few viewers have been noted to enjoy this trope between David and Griffin, only to be stymied by [[DieForOurShip that tagalong Millie who just keeps getting in the way]].
* MoralEventHorizon: Roland promising to send Griffin "home to mommy" is the moment when you realize that he truly is as much of an iredeemable monster as any evil Jumper he ever fought.


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* StrangledByTheRedString: Related to the above, but Creator/HaydenChristensen and Rachel Bilson ''really'' don't have a lot of chemistry together in their roles as David and Millie, and Millie herself comes across as a bit of a third wheel.


* LoveItOrHateIt: The movie adaptation. Fans seem to love the concept of teleportation, while the movie's detractors say that it does nothing interesting in attempting to subvert common superhero tropes and find the main character both deplorable and uninteresting.


* LoveItOrHateIt: The movie adaptation.

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* LoveItOrHateIt: The movie adaptation. Fans seem to love the concept of teleportation, while the movie's detractors say that it does nothing interesting in attempting to subvert common superhero tropes and find the main character both deplorable and uninteresting.


* EnsembleDarkhorse: Griffin has the reputation to be far more popular than the main characters. His popularity resulted in a video game spinoff centered on him. Whether it's because he's such a CrazyPrepared Badass or because he's played by Jamie Bell or both is your choice. Becomes HarsherInHindsight when Jamie Bell revealed that he hated the production of the movie (More details on TheOtherWiki).

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Griffin has the reputation to be far more popular than the main characters. His popularity resulted in a video game spinoff centered on him. Whether it's because he's such a CrazyPrepared Badass or because he's played by Jamie Bell or both is your choice. Becomes HarsherInHindsight when Jamie Bell revealed that he hated the production of the movie (More details on TheOtherWiki).Wiki/TheOtherWiki).

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* {{Basebreaker}}: Though many old and new readers enjoyed them, a lot of fans of the first two books were less than enthused by the Cent duology that completed the series, with most complaints centered on the character herself, including calling her a MarySue. In that perspective, complaints include that she destroys the conspiracy that so strongly threatened her parents when its head inexplicably shows up to personally taunt her (after spending the rest of the series being extremely careful to stay several steps removed, and very careful to safeguard against all known parameters of teleportation) while she is sitting in a containment room susceptible to collapsing into a vacuum - IE space, the very place she had spent most of the book very publicly going to. She learns how to teleport and develops new techniques to employ within a few months that her parents with 4 decades of combined experience and intelligence never considered. In the last book, she launches an almost literally one woman space program while keeping her complete plan secret from everyone, including her parents (with minimal consequences and no demands for full disclosure when they learn she was going into space with no backup plan) - everyone else is only present for material, communications and positioning support. Everyone who meets her and isn't a full antagonist likes her; she's smart, funny, and brilliant, and gets acquiescence to every demand she makes. Her only flaw appears to be a desire to involve herself and help people at the risk of herself, which isn't a flaw.


!! The movie and book

* {{Anvilicious}}: If you drink, ''join AA''. If you know, are related to, or brush someone on the street who drinks, '''make them join AA''' and join Al-Anon yourself.

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!! The movie and book

* {{Anvilicious}}: If you drink, ''join AA''. If you know, are related to, or brush someone on the street who drinks, '''make them join AA''' and join Al-Anon yourself.
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* HarsherInHindsight (or maybe FunnyAneurysmMoment if you're that sort): [[spoiler:Did he just... Drop a plane-hijacking terrorist from the World Trade Center...?]] Brr...


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* TheWoobie: David at the beginning of the movie. His father later on, who is genuinely repentant and misses his son.

!!The book

* {{Anvilicious}}: If you drink, ''join AA''. If you know, are related to, or brush someone on the street who drinks, '''make them join AA''' and join Al-Anon yourself.
* HarsherInHindsight (or maybe FunnyAneurysmMoment if you're that sort): [[spoiler:Did he just... Drop a plane-hijacking terrorist from the World Trade Center...?]] Brr...


* StrawmanHasAPoint: The reasons stated for the Paladin's attempts to wipe out Jumpers may be religious, but judging by what David uses his powers for most of the movie as well as what else they're capable of wanting to stop Jumpers it isn't unwarranted.
*** Though that point is rendered very hollow and moot by the fact they don't hunt Jumpers for doing bad things. They hunt Jumpers for [[FantasticRacism ''the crime of existing'']], even if they are doing nothing wrong ([[DisproportionateRetribution or, at least, nothing that deserves being tasered, strung up like a crucification victim and gutted like a lamb]]). Also the fact that they kill everyone remotely related to the Jumper; in Griffin's case, [[WouldHurtAChild they hunted him and killed his parents when he was a kid]]. At no point do they justify themselves with excuses like stopping crime or saving lives(Roland himself doesn't care for the bank robberies beyond the fact David used his powers to do it, and what he wants is for David to tell him where he can find more Jumpers to kill), just killing Jumpers because.

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