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* BadassDecay: Ares gets hit with this the hardest of all in the show, especially for someone known as the god of war. None of his very early appearances were played for laughs and whenever he was involved, his stories usually involved serious matters like recruiting child soldiers or human sacrifice. When he made his physical debut in the show in the Golden Hind trilogy, he was an outright KnightOfCerebus whose very presence took the show to a darker and more tragic level when he took away Hercules' strength, had Herc's new wife Serena killed, framed Hercules for her murder, and nearly took away everything from the demi-god. When they fought for the first time, Hercules struggled against him and only won a very narrow victory because he had a Hind's blood soaked dagger on him which he managed to use to his advantage and force Ares to surrender and submit to his demands. From the fourth season onwards, Ares pretty much gets turned into a punching bag for Hercules and almost every fight they have ends with Ares getting beat down. By the end of the series, Ares' dignity is completely gone and when Hercules and Iolaus make fun of him, the god of war's self-esteem is pretty much crushed and he walks off crying. In Xena, Ares appears to subvert his decay when he convinces Zeus to lift his ban on killing Hercules but nothing ever comes of it because he gets knocked out by Hera before he can even fight Hercules. And if the Hercules-in-modern-times episodes are anything to go by, Ares feuded with Hercules for centuries leading up to the late 90s and still had absolutely nothing to show for it.

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* BadassDecay: Ares gets hit with this the hardest of all in the show, hardest, especially for someone known as the god of war. None of his very early appearances were played for laughs and whenever he was involved, his stories usually involved serious matters like recruiting child soldiers or human sacrifice. When he made his physical debut in the show in the Golden Hind trilogy, he was an outright KnightOfCerebus whose very presence took the show to a darker and more tragic level when he took away Hercules' strength, had Herc's new wife Serena killed, framed Hercules him for her murder, and nearly took away everything from the demi-god. When they fought for the first time, Hercules struggled against him and only won a very narrow victory because he had a Hind's blood soaked dagger on him which that he managed to use to his advantage and force Ares to surrender and submit to his demands. From the fourth season onwards, Ares pretty much gets turned into a punching bag for Hercules and almost every fight they have ends with Ares getting beat down. By the end of the series, Ares' dignity is completely gone gone, and when Hercules and Iolaus make fun of him, the god of war's self-esteem is pretty much crushed and he walks off crying. In Xena, ''Xena'', Ares appears to subvert his decay when he convinces Zeus to lift his ban on killing Hercules Hercules, but nothing ever comes of it because he gets knocked out by Hera before he can even fight Hercules. And if the Hercules-in-modern-times episodes are anything to go by, Ares feuded with Hercules for centuries ''centuries'' leading up to the late 90s '90s and still had absolutely nothing to show for it.



** The 4th season episode "... And Fancy Free", in which Hercules enters a dance competition with a girl called Althea. Nothing rests on this competition other than his partner's self esteem, and a nice trophy. The town magistrate finds this competition important enough that he spends most of the episode sending assassins after Hercules and his partner to stop them from winning. No other motivation is given, he just wants his daughter to win. It guest stars Michael Hurst in drag as the dance instructor.
** "Stranger in a Strange World", which is referred to as a "Bizarro World episode" by the writer in the interviews feature on the DVD. This episode features an alternate universe with Hercules an evil tyrant marrying Aphrodite, the Xena cast in different roles, and a battle using a wedding cake. And Iolaus as a jester.
** There is a later episode featuring the same characters in struggle over fashion, which is about as goofy as "...And Fancy Free". Also, the same actor who played the magistrate in "...And Fancy Free" returns to play a completely different character as the lover of the girl who was Althea's rival, which could double as {{Squick}} for some people since he played her father in the previous episode.
** The episode set in the present day which is all about Creator/KevinSorbo having gone missing, the show's staff trying to find him while keeping the show from being cancelled and features the memorable and hysterical restroom whistling scene.
*** There was another one in the same setting where the staff go on a teamwork-building retreat hosted by Sunny Day (played by Creator/ReneeOConnor; normal role Gabrielle). It leads to a Scooby Doo ending where Sunny is revealed to be B.S. Hollinsfoffer (played by Robert Trebor, normal role Salmoneus), who is 1. a lot taller than Sunny, 2. at least a hundred pounds heavier, and 3. male, and concludes with Ares revealing himself to the cast. On top of that, most of them aren't even all that surprised to learn that Greek god of war is real; one of them even claims "I find the thought rather comforting myself."

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** The 4th fourth season episode "... And Fancy Free", in which Hercules enters a dance competition with a girl called Althea. Nothing rests on this competition other than his partner's self esteem, and a nice trophy. The town magistrate finds this competition important enough that he spends most of the episode sending assassins after Hercules and his partner to stop them from winning. No other motivation is given, given; he just wants his daughter to win. It guest stars Michael Hurst in drag as the dance instructor.
** "Stranger in a Strange World", which is referred to as a "Bizarro World episode" by the writer in the interviews feature on the DVD. This episode features an alternate universe with Hercules as an evil tyrant marrying Aphrodite, the Xena ''Xena'' cast in different roles, and a battle using a wedding cake. And Iolaus as a jester.
** There is a later episode featuring the same characters in struggle over fashion, which is about as goofy as "...And Fancy Free". Also, the same actor who played the magistrate in "...And Fancy Free" returns to play a completely different character as the lover of the girl who was Althea's rival, which could double as {{Squick}} for some people since he played her father in the previous episode.
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** The episode set in the present day which is all about Creator/KevinSorbo having gone missing, the show's staff trying to find him while keeping the show from being cancelled cancelled, and features the memorable and hysterical restroom whistling scene.
*** There was another one in the same setting where the staff go on a teamwork-building retreat hosted by Sunny Day (played by Creator/ReneeOConnor; normal role Gabrielle). It leads to a Scooby Doo ending where Sunny is revealed to be B.S. Hollinsfoffer (played by Robert Trebor, normal role Salmoneus), who is 1. a lot taller than Sunny, 2. at least a hundred pounds heavier, and 3. male, male; and concludes with Ares revealing himself to the cast. On top of that, most of them aren't even all that surprised to learn that Greek god of war is real; one of them even claims "I find the thought rather comforting myself."



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Became so big in international syndication that it managed to surpass Baywatch to become the most watched show in the world at its peak. So much that in some countries it even surpassed Xena in popularity!

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Became so big in international syndication that it managed to surpass Baywatch ''Baywatch'' to become the most watched show in the world at its peak. So much that in In some countries it even surpassed Xena ''Xena'' in popularity!



** Iolaus for reasons stated in AscendedExtra on the main page. Autolycus and Salmoneus also became fan-favorites.
** Xena, who got popular enough to her own spinoff series that actually surpassed this one in popularity.

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** Iolaus Iolaus, for reasons stated in AscendedExtra on the main page. Autolycus and Salmoneus also became fan-favorites.
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** Xena, who got popular enough to get her own spinoff series that actually surpassed this one in popularity.



** In the ''Amazon Women'' TV-Movie, while talking about Iolaus' impending wedding, Hercules off-handedly brags that he might get a wife or two himself one day. His two marriages ended very badly, and he did not take any of that well.
** Any time Hercules and Xena teamed up have become this since [[WeUsedToBeFriends Sorbo and]] Creator/LucyLawless [[WeUsedToBeFriends are no longer friends since Sorbo's turn to conservatism]].

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** In the ''Amazon Women'' TV-Movie, TV movie, while talking about Iolaus' impending wedding, Hercules off-handedly brags that he might get a wife or two himself one day. His two marriages ended very badly, and he did not take any of that well.
** Any time Hercules and Xena teamed up have become this since [[WeUsedToBeFriends Sorbo and]] Creator/LucyLawless [[WeUsedToBeFriends are no longer friends since Sorbo's turn to conservatism]].



** In the fifth season, Hercules battled against Gilgamesh who was associated with Dahak, a dark god based off the Persian deity Azi Dahaka. Well over ten years later, the anime Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks featured another fight between different incarnations of Hercules and Gilgamesh, who this time was associated with the dark god Angra Mainyu, a Persian destroyer god who was known as the creator of Azi Dahaka. Also doubles as HarsherInHindsight because in both battles, both incarnations of Gilgamesh end up [[spoiler: killing the people closest to Hercules with Gilgamesh murdering Iolaus in the live action TV show and Gilgamesh slaughtering Illya, the little girl who happened to be Hercules' master in the anime]].

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** In the fifth season, Hercules battled against Gilgamesh Gilgamesh, who was associated with Dahak, a dark god based off the Persian deity Azi Dahaka. Well over ten years later, the anime Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'' featured another fight between different incarnations of Hercules and Gilgamesh, who this time was associated with the dark god Angra Mainyu, a Persian destroyer god who was known as the creator of Azi Dahaka. Also doubles as HarsherInHindsight because in both battles, both incarnations of Gilgamesh end up [[spoiler: killing the people closest to Hercules Hercules, with Gilgamesh murdering Iolaus in the live action TV show and Gilgamesh slaughtering Illya, the little girl who happened to be Hercules' master in the anime]]. anime]].



** Hercules and Iolaus are pretty damn prominent in the HoYay department ''without'' the fanfic. For example, every time Iolaus dies, Hercules is at first grief-stricken (insert BigNo) and then he immediately goes to whatever Underworld is nearest to get him back. Iolaus' death in season 5 puts him in the biggest HeroicBSOD ''ever'', with him not eating, sleeping or shaving for 3 days, and then him getting angry at the fact that Nebula and Iolaus were together and that ''her'' grief isn't as great as his, and then, after failing to get him back from the Underworld, he ''gives up helping people entirely'' and takes Nebula's ship for a suicide run into a storm screaming "I don't care anymore!" The fact that Iolaus' death is more damaging and painful for Herc than the deaths of both Serena and ''his own family'', moving him to nigh suicidal depression and making him say that he never wants to go back to Greece again is pretty damn suspicious.
*** And then, when [[spoiler:Dahak]] traps Iolaus inside his own dead body and won't let him move on, he comes to try to seduce him into opening his heart to him. First he tries the form of Iolaus' father to try to make Iolaus think he is in the Elesian fields. And then he tries a number of forms to appeal to him. First he tries Nebula with "is this what you want, lover?" And then tries ''Hercules'', which he stays in. The entire sequence is so full of subtext that even writers of ''Xena'' would be applauding. YMMV whether you consider Hercules going ''inside Iolaus'' [[spoiler:when he's trying to exorcise Dahak]] means anything.
*** Afterwards, when Herc takes Iolaus' double to Iolaus' grave (yeah, bringing Iolaus' double back from another universe in order to partner up with him doesn't look suspicious...), Iolaus' double says "I'll leave you to spend some time alone with him" and Herc says "I've had hundreds of those." However you interpret that, it at the very least means he has come back to Iolaus' grave a ridiculous number of times.
** Even in the earlier, campy series, there are constant references to how close they are. They are always "partners", each "part of each other", and even at one point when Iolaus goes off for a quick one-night stand with a sex friend of his, Aphrodite quips "what, you and Herc don't do that for each other?" with both of them just smiling knowingly. Even Iolaus' long list of short one-night-stands with women but never any real relationships looks suspicious (and Hercules has no casual sex whatsoever, and no real relationships until ''after'' Iolaus is dead and he's grieved).

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** Hercules and Iolaus are pretty damn prominent in the HoYay department ''without'' the fanfic. For example, every time Iolaus dies, Hercules is at first grief-stricken (insert BigNo) and then he immediately goes to whatever Underworld is nearest to get him back. Iolaus' death in season 5 puts him in the biggest HeroicBSOD ''ever'', with him not eating, sleeping or shaving for 3 three days, and then him getting angry at the fact that Nebula and Iolaus were together and that ''her'' grief isn't as great as his, and then, his. Then, after failing to get him back from the Underworld, he ''gives up helping people entirely'' and takes Nebula's ship for a suicide run into a storm storm, screaming "I don't care anymore!" The fact that Iolaus' death is more damaging and painful for Herc than the deaths of both Serena and ''his own family'', moving him to nigh suicidal nigh-suicidal depression and making him say that he never wants to go back to Greece again is pretty damn suspicious.
*** And then, when [[spoiler:Dahak]] traps Iolaus inside his own dead body and won't let him move on, he comes to try to seduce him into opening his heart to him. First he tries the form of Iolaus' father to try to make Iolaus think he is in the Elesian Elysian fields. And then Then he tries a number of forms to appeal to him. First he He tries Nebula with "is this what you want, lover?" And lover?", and then he tries ''Hercules'', which he stays in. The entire sequence is so full of subtext that even writers of ''Xena'' would be applauding. YMMV whether you consider Hercules going ''inside Iolaus'' [[spoiler:when he's trying to exorcise Dahak]] means anything.
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*** Afterwards, when Herc takes Iolaus' double to Iolaus' grave (yeah, bringing Iolaus' double back from another universe in order to partner up with him doesn't look suspicious...), Iolaus' double says "I'll leave you to spend some time alone with him" and Herc says "I've had hundreds of those." However you interpret that, it at the very least means he has come back to Iolaus' grave a ridiculous number of times.
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** Even in the earlier, campy series, there are constant references to how close they are. They are always "partners", each "part of each other", and even at one point when Iolaus goes off for a quick one-night stand with a sex friend hookup of his, Aphrodite quips "what, you and Herc don't do that for each other?" with both of them just smiling knowingly. Even Iolaus' long list of short one-night-stands one-night stands with women but never any real relationships looks suspicious (and Hercules has no casual sex whatsoever, and no real relationships until ''after'' Iolaus is dead and he's grieved). grieved).



'''Iolaus:''' Well I'm glad you approve.\\

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'''Iolaus:''' Well Well, I'm glad you approve.\\



* OlderThanTheyThink: The portrayal of Heracles/Hercules and Iphicles with the latter being the elder maternal half-brother of the former rather than his younger maternal twin half-brother has a forerunner in the Edison Marshall novel "Earth Giant", which portrayed Iphicles as Heracles' elder by a year.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: The portrayal of Heracles/Hercules and Iphicles Iphicles, with the latter being the elder maternal half-brother of the former rather than his younger maternal twin half-brother half-brother, has a forerunner in the Edison Marshall novel "Earth Giant", which portrayed Iphicles as Heracles' elder by a year.



* SeasonalRot: Season six is considered to be the weakest season, due to a combo of season five being regarded as the high point for the series and Creator/KevinSorbo wanting to retire the character. Reportedly, Sorbo wasn't too happy with how the final season went down and also felt that the SeriesFinale was rushed.

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* SeasonalRot: Season six 6 is considered to be the weakest season, due to a combo of season five 5 being regarded as the high point for the series and Creator/KevinSorbo wanting to retire the character. Reportedly, Sorbo wasn't too happy with how the final season went down and also felt that the SeriesFinale was rushed.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A late episode has Zeus raise Hercules to full godhood after [[spoiler: the death of his mother]]. When Hercules finally confronts him over some odd behavior Zeus admits that he did this because [[spoiler: he wanted Hercules to protect him from the other gods]]. After Hera is banished to Tartarus this plot point is never brought up again and we never see much to suggest that the [[spoiler: other gods are considering getting rid of him]].
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The centaur Deric and his human lover Lyla, despite being portrayed as victims of hatred and bigotry, manage to come off as this in the episode ''Outcast''. We were clearly meant to sympathize with them as the new town they move to is easily stirred into an anti-centaur mob frenzy and in all fairness, their son was actually innocent of wrongdoing and didn't deserve any of the persecution. However, by no means were Deric and Lyla innocent victims themselves. In their previous appearance, the two blinded Hercules for much of the episode and they even helped another centaur Nemis to kidnap some brides at a wedding. While the two did perform a minor HeelFaceTurn and decided to leave the service of Nemis, they didn't even bother giving much help to Hercules despite having helped cause much of the episode's troubles in the first place. Not once did they at least try to do anything to remedy the situation, like help Hercules rescue the brides they helped to steal to begin with. Because of their actions (and even inactions) in their previous appearance, both Deric and Lyla can come off as less the sympathetic victims of racism that the writers intended them to be and more of a JerkAss couple who [[LaserGuidedKarma deserved all the persecution they received]] considering the two helped to terrorize innocent families, blinded Hercules, and couldn't even be bothered to do the bare minimum to right their wrongs.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A late episode has Zeus raise Hercules to full godhood after [[spoiler: the death of his mother]]. When Hercules finally confronts him over some odd behavior behavior, Zeus admits that he did this because [[spoiler: he wanted Hercules to protect him from the other gods]]. After Hera is banished to Tartarus Tartarus, this plot point is never brought up again and we never see much to suggest that the [[spoiler: other gods are considering getting rid of him]].
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The centaur Deric and his human lover Lyla, despite being portrayed as victims of hatred and bigotry, manage to come off as this in the episode ''Outcast''. We were clearly meant to sympathize with them as the new town they move to is easily stirred into an anti-centaur mob frenzy and and, in all fairness, their son was actually innocent of wrongdoing and didn't deserve any of the persecution. However, by no means were Deric and Lyla innocent victims themselves. In their previous appearance, the two blinded Hercules for much of the episode and they even helped another centaur Nemis to kidnap some brides at a wedding. While the two did perform a minor HeelFaceTurn and decided to leave the service of Nemis, they didn't even bother giving much help to Hercules despite having helped cause causing much of the episode's troubles in the first place. Not once did they at least try to do anything to remedy the situation, like help Hercules rescue the brides they helped to steal to begin with. Because of their actions (and even inactions) in their previous appearance, both Deric and Lyla can come off as less the sympathetic victims of racism that the writers intended them to be and more of a JerkAss couple who [[LaserGuidedKarma deserved all the persecution they received]] considering the two helped to terrorize innocent families, blinded Hercules, and couldn't even be bothered to do the bare minimum to right their wrongs.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The portrayal of Heracles/Hercules and Iphicles with the latter being the elder maternal half-brother of the former rather than maternal twin half-brother has a forerunner in the Edison Marshall novel "Earth Giant", which portrayed Iphicles as Heracles' elder by a year.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: The portrayal of Heracles/Hercules and Iphicles with the latter being the elder maternal half-brother of the former rather than his younger maternal twin half-brother has a forerunner in the Edison Marshall novel "Earth Giant", which portrayed Iphicles as Heracles' elder by a year.

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make it less flame baity and partiasan


** The disclaimer included in [[ChristmasEpisode "A Star to Guide Them"]] becomes a lot less funny knowing of Creator/KevinSorbo's later turn to fundamentalist Christianity.
--->'''Disclaimer:''' "No unnamed Baby of key biblical and mythological importance was harmed during the production of this motion picture"



** Any time Hercules and Xena teamed up have become this since [[WeUsedToBeFriends Sorbo and]] Creator/LucyLawless [[WeUsedToBeFriends are no longer friends since Sorbo's embrace of ultraconservatism]]. Notably, Lawless chastised Sorbo for blaming far-left anarchists for the U.S. Capitol siege in January 2021.

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** Any time Hercules and Xena teamed up have become this since [[WeUsedToBeFriends Sorbo and]] Creator/LucyLawless [[WeUsedToBeFriends are no longer friends since Sorbo's embrace of ultraconservatism]]. Notably, Lawless chastised Sorbo for blaming far-left anarchists for the U.S. Capitol siege in January 2021.turn to conservatism]].
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--> '''Disclaimer:''' "No unnamed Baby of key biblical and mythological importance was harmed during the production of this motion picture"

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--> '''Disclaimer:''' --->'''Disclaimer:''' "No unnamed Baby of key biblical and mythological importance was harmed during the production of this motion picture"



----> '''Nebula''': Quite a firm handshake between you two.
----> '''Iolaus''': Yeah, so?
----> '''Nebula''': So I think it's great.
----> '''Iolaus''': Well I'm glad you approve.
----> '''Nebula''': Yeah. So, how long you two've been together?
----> '''Iolaus''': We've been ''partners'' since we were kids.
----> '''Nebula''': Oh, "partners."

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----> '''Nebula''': ---->'''Nebula:''' Quite a firm handshake between you two.
----> '''Iolaus''':
two.\\
'''Iolaus:'''
Yeah, so?
----> '''Nebula''':
so?\\
'''Nebula:'''
So I think it's great.
----> '''Iolaus''':
great.\\
'''Iolaus:'''
Well I'm glad you approve.
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approve.\\
'''Nebula:'''
Yeah. So, how long you two've been together?
----> '''Iolaus''':
together?\\
'''Iolaus:'''
We've been ''partners'' since we were kids.
----> '''Nebula''':
kids.\\
'''Nebula:'''
Oh, "partners."

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment:
** The disclaimer included in [[ChristmasEpisode "A Star to Guide Them"]] becomes a lot less funny knowing that Creator/KevinSorbo has become reputed for hard-line religious fundamentalism.
--> '''Disclaimer:''' "No unnamed Baby of key biblical and mythological importance was harmed during the production of this motion picture"
** In the ''Amazon Women'' TV-Movie, while talking about Iolaus' impending wedding, Hercules off-handedly brags that he might get a wife or two himself one day. His two marriages ended very badly, and he did not take any of that well.
** Any time Hercules and Xena teamed up have become this since [[WeUsedToBeFriends Sorbo and Creator/LucyLawless are no longer friends since Sorbo's embrace of ultraconservatism]]. Notably, Lawless chastised Sorbo for blaming far-left anarchists for the U.S. Capitol siege in January 2021.


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* HarsherInHindsight:
** The disclaimer included in [[ChristmasEpisode "A Star to Guide Them"]] becomes a lot less funny knowing of Creator/KevinSorbo's later turn to fundamentalist Christianity.
--> '''Disclaimer:''' "No unnamed Baby of key biblical and mythological importance was harmed during the production of this motion picture"
** In the ''Amazon Women'' TV-Movie, while talking about Iolaus' impending wedding, Hercules off-handedly brags that he might get a wife or two himself one day. His two marriages ended very badly, and he did not take any of that well.
** Any time Hercules and Xena teamed up have become this since [[WeUsedToBeFriends Sorbo and]] Creator/LucyLawless [[WeUsedToBeFriends are no longer friends since Sorbo's embrace of ultraconservatism]]. Notably, Lawless chastised Sorbo for blaming far-left anarchists for the U.S. Capitol siege in January 2021.
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** Any time Hercules and Xena teamed up have become this since Sorbo and Creator/LucyLawless are no longer friends since Sorbo's embrace of ultraconservatism. Notably, Lawless chastised Sorbo for blaming far-left anarchists for the U.S. Capitol siege in January 2021.

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** Any time Hercules and Xena teamed up have become this since [[WeUsedToBeFriends Sorbo and Creator/LucyLawless are no longer friends since Sorbo's embrace of ultraconservatism.ultraconservatism]]. Notably, Lawless chastised Sorbo for blaming far-left anarchists for the U.S. Capitol siege in January 2021.

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Didn't think about it before, but since Hera is the villain of the series, her being unsympathetic is the intended reaction. Second example in TWAPGP appears to be natter responding to the first.


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** A late episode has Zeus raise Hercules to full godhood after [[spoiler: the death of his mother]]. When Hercules finally confronts him over some odd behavior Zeus admits that he did this because [[spoiler: he wanted Hercules to protect him from the other gods]]. After Hera is banished to Tartarus this plot point is never brought up again and we never see much to suggest that the [[spoiler: other gods are considering getting rid of him]].
** On the other hand, it might not have been a problem afterwords. It would take all the gods including Hera to confidently overthrow Zeus. She was one of the most powerful so without her they did not have the raw power. Her getting thrown into Tartarus would have scared the others into falling back in line. Finally, the gods quarrel with each other as Zeus. Without a strong leader to unite them they could not get their act together to do anything to Hera.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** The centaur Deric and his human lover Lyla, despite being portrayed as victims of hatred and bigotry, manage to come off as this in the episode ''Outcast''. We were clearly meant to sympathize with them as the new town they move to is easily stirred into an anti-centaur mob frenzy and in all fairness, their son was actually innocent of wrongdoing and didn't deserve any of the persecution. However, by no means were Deric and Lyla innocent victims themselves. In their previous appearance, the two blinded Hercules for much of the episode and they even helped another centaur Nemis to kidnap some brides at a wedding. While the two did perform a minor HeelFaceTurn and decided to leave the service of Nemis, they didn't even bother giving much help to Hercules despite having helped cause much of the episode's troubles in the first place. Not once did they at least try to do anything to remedy the situation, like help Hercules rescue the brides they helped to steal to begin with. Because of their actions (and even inactions) in their previous appearance, both Deric and Lyla can come off as less the sympathetic victims of racism that the writers intended them to be and more of a JerkAss couple who [[LaserGuidedKarma deserved all the persecution they received]] considering the two helped to terrorize innocent families, blinded Hercules, and couldn't even be bothered to do the bare minimum to right their wrongs.
** Hera. True, Zeus' infidelities are overlooked and outright disregarded by almost every character, and she is after all, ''the Goddess of Marriage'', to whom marital fidelity would matter more than anyone. If she had chosen to direct her ire at Zeus, who is responsible for the infidelity, she would be the wounded party. Instead, she chooses to direct it at Hercules and other mortals who are associated with Zeus' illegitimate children, for committing the terrible crime of...being born? And the even more terrible crime of...being sorta associated with her husband's children?

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
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TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A late episode has Zeus raise Hercules to full godhood after [[spoiler: the death of his mother]]. When Hercules finally confronts him over some odd behavior Zeus admits that he did this because [[spoiler: he wanted Hercules to protect him from the other gods]]. After Hera is banished to Tartarus this plot point is never brought up again and we never see much to suggest that the [[spoiler: other gods are considering getting rid of him]].
** On the other hand, it might not have been a problem afterwords. It would take all the gods including Hera to confidently overthrow Zeus. She was one of the most powerful so without her they did not have the raw power. Her getting thrown into Tartarus would have scared the others into falling back in line. Finally, the gods quarrel with each other as Zeus. Without a strong leader to unite them they could not get their act together to do anything to Hera.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
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UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The centaur Deric and his human lover Lyla, despite being portrayed as victims of hatred and bigotry, manage to come off as this in the episode ''Outcast''. We were clearly meant to sympathize with them as the new town they move to is easily stirred into an anti-centaur mob frenzy and in all fairness, their son was actually innocent of wrongdoing and didn't deserve any of the persecution. However, by no means were Deric and Lyla innocent victims themselves. In their previous appearance, the two blinded Hercules for much of the episode and they even helped another centaur Nemis to kidnap some brides at a wedding. While the two did perform a minor HeelFaceTurn and decided to leave the service of Nemis, they didn't even bother giving much help to Hercules despite having helped cause much of the episode's troubles in the first place. Not once did they at least try to do anything to remedy the situation, like help Hercules rescue the brides they helped to steal to begin with. Because of their actions (and even inactions) in their previous appearance, both Deric and Lyla can come off as less the sympathetic victims of racism that the writers intended them to be and more of a JerkAss couple who [[LaserGuidedKarma deserved all the persecution they received]] considering the two helped to terrorize innocent families, blinded Hercules, and couldn't even be bothered to do the bare minimum to right their wrongs.
** Hera. True, Zeus' infidelities are overlooked and outright disregarded by almost every character, and she is after all, ''the Goddess of Marriage'', to whom marital fidelity would matter more than anyone. If she had chosen to direct her ire at Zeus, who is responsible for the infidelity, she would be the wounded party. Instead, she chooses to direct it at Hercules and other mortals who are associated with Zeus' illegitimate children, for committing the terrible crime of...being born? And the even more terrible crime of...being sorta associated with her husband's children?
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* MoralEventHorizon: The murder of Hercules' family was this for Hera. Before, their antagonistic relationship was more like business as usual. Afterwards, it became personal.

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The murder of Hercules' family was this for Hera. Before, their antagonistic relationship was more like business as usual. Afterwards, it became personal.



* SeasonalRot: Season six is considered to be the weakest season, due to a combo of season five being regarded as the high point for the series and Kevin Sorbo wanting to retire the character. Reportedly, Creator/KevinSorbo wasn't too happy with how the final season went down and also felt that the SeriesFinale was rushed.

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* SeasonalRot: Season six is considered to be the weakest season, due to a combo of season five being regarded as the high point for the series and Kevin Sorbo Creator/KevinSorbo wanting to retire the character. Reportedly, Creator/KevinSorbo Sorbo wasn't too happy with how the final season went down and also felt that the SeriesFinale was rushed.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A late episode has Zeus raise Hercules to full godhood after [[spoiler: the death of his mother]]. When Hercules finally confronts him over some odd behavior Zeus admits that he did this because [[spoiler: he wanted Hercules to protect him from the other gods]]. After Hera is banished to Tartarus this plot point is never brought up again and we never see much to suggest that the [[spoiler: other gods are considering getting rid of him]].

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A late episode has Zeus raise Hercules to full godhood after [[spoiler: the death of his mother]]. When Hercules finally confronts him over some odd behavior Zeus admits that he did this because [[spoiler: he wanted Hercules to protect him from the other gods]]. After Hera is banished to Tartarus this plot point is never brought up again and we never see much to suggest that the [[spoiler: other gods are considering getting rid of him]].
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** The disclaimer included in "A Star to Guide Them" becomes a lot less funny knowing that Creator/KevinSorbo has become reputed for hard-line religious fundamentalism.

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** The disclaimer included in [[ChristmasEpisode "A Star to Guide Them" Them"]] becomes a lot less funny knowing that Creator/KevinSorbo has become reputed for hard-line religious fundamentalism.

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