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** Despite the movie's pretext to {{Demythification}}, it doesn't commit to it, with Hercules' SuperStrength showing up at points where the movie needs an easy way out of a tight spot. This is especially notable, since the 2005 Hallmark miniseries portrayed it as being an CharlesAtlasSuperpower brought on by TrainingFromHell, but this later adaptation gives no such explanation for it.

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** Despite the movie's pretext to {{Demythification}}, it doesn't commit to it, with Hercules' SuperStrength showing up at points where the movie needs an easy way out of a tight spot. This is especially notable, since the 2005 Hallmark miniseries portrayed it as being an a CharlesAtlasSuperpower brought on by TrainingFromHell, but this later adaptation gives no such explanation for it.

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* SpecialEffectFailure: While the effects are better than the ''other'' [[Film/TheLegendOfHercules Hercules film]] (especially in regards with the lion which looks pretty sweet), they're still rather unconvincing when placed with human actors. Most noticeably during the fight with the hydra. Granted, once you realize the [[TallTale purpose of those creatures]], the effect comes off as a little less jarring.

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While the effects are better than the ''other'' [[Film/TheLegendOfHercules Hercules film]] (especially in regards with the lion which looks pretty sweet), they're still rather unconvincing when placed with human actors. Most noticeably during the fight with the hydra. Granted, once you realize the [[TallTale purpose of those creatures]], the effect comes off as a little less jarring.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: This is a movie about Hercules that depicts his battles with famous monsters as nothing more than tall tales, rather than using them as major plot points.

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** Creator/IanMcShane in this film wants to die getting run through with a spear, only for it not to happen. He would ironically get his wish in Season 3 of ''Series/AmericanGods2017'', where Ian [=McShane's=] character Mr. Wednesday would die by [[LaserGuidedKarma getting run through with his own spear Gungnir by one of his past victims]].
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* MagnificentBastard: Rhesus is a RebelLeader allegedly pillaging the Thracian countryside. In reality fighting against the evil King Cotys, Rhesus takes any means possible to defend his country, even setting up an ambush to kill Cotys' armed farmers fighting him. Defeated after a grueling battle, Rhesus reveals Cotys' true intentions to Hercules and helps the hero break free of their captor, fighting through Cotys' men to kill the vile king and save Greece.

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** [[AmbitionIsEvil King Cotys of Thrace]] is a power-hungry monarch who [[ObnoxiousInLaws murdered his own son-in-law]] in order to [[TheUsurper take power]]. Cotys later gave Hercules the task of preparing an army for him which he could then use to fight Rhesus, a supposedly cruel rebel who had massacred several villages. It is revealed later on, however, that [[FalseFlagOperation Cotys himself had ordered those mass killings]], and that Rhesus himself was a revolutionary that Cotys shifted the blame to. Cotys later attempts to [[OffingTheOffspring murder his own daughter]] when he learns she has told Hercules the truth behind his rule, and means to [[TheCorrupter corrupt his grandson]] into becoming a cruel ruler to carry on his reign.

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** [[AmbitionIsEvil King Cotys of Thrace]] is a power-hungry monarch who [[ObnoxiousInLaws murdered his own son-in-law]] son-in-law in order to [[TheUsurper take power]]. Cotys later gave Hercules the task of preparing an army for him which he could then use to fight Rhesus, a supposedly cruel rebel who had massacred several villages. It is revealed later on, however, that [[FalseFlagOperation Cotys himself had ordered those mass killings]], and that Rhesus himself was a revolutionary that Cotys shifted the blame to. Cotys later attempts to [[OffingTheOffspring murder his own daughter]] when he learns she has told Hercules the truth behind his rule, and means to [[TheCorrupter corrupt his grandson]] into becoming a cruel ruler to carry on his reign.

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[BigBad King]] [[EvilOldFolks Cotys]] is a power-hungry monarch who murdered his own son-in-law in order to become king. He later gave Hercules the task of preparing an army for him which he could then use to fight Rheseus, a supposedly cruel ruler who had massacred several villages. [[TheReveal It is revealed later on, however]], that Cotys himself had ordered those mass killings, and that Rheseus himself was a [[GoodAllAlong revolutionary]] that Cotys shifted the blame to. He then tried to callously [[WouldHurtAChild murder his own grandson]] in front of Hercules's eyes, and later tried to [[OffingTheOffspring execute his own daughter]].]]

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** [[AmbitionIsEvil King Cotys of Thrace]]
is a power-hungry monarch who [[ObnoxiousInLaws murdered his own son-in-law son-in-law]] in order to become king. He [[TheUsurper take power]]. Cotys later gave Hercules the task of preparing an army for him which he could then use to fight Rheseus, Rhesus, a supposedly cruel ruler rebel who had massacred several villages. [[TheReveal It is revealed later on, however]], however, that [[FalseFlagOperation Cotys himself had ordered those mass killings, killings]], and that Rheseus Rhesus himself was a [[GoodAllAlong revolutionary]] revolutionary that Cotys shifted the blame to. He then tried to callously [[WouldHurtAChild murder his own grandson]] in front of Hercules's eyes, and Cotys later tried attempts to [[OffingTheOffspring murder his own daughter]] when he learns she has told Hercules the truth behind his rule, and means to [[TheCorrupter corrupt his grandson]] into becoming a cruel ruler to carry on his reign.
** [[AdaptationalVillainy King Eurystheus of Athens]] allegedly banished Hercules for murdering his own family. In reality, Eurystheus is a jealous ruler who had Hercules's wife and children torn apart by wolves and [[FrameUp framed him]] to ruin his reputation. Allying with King Cotys and sponsoring his razing of Thrace's villages to shift blame onto the rebel Rhesus, Eurystheus seeks to conquer Greece in bloody conquest with his cohort.
** [[InsaneAdmiral General Sitacles]] is King Cotys's thuggish military leader. Intent on seeing his king take Greece by bloodshed, Sitacles aids in his plot to take Thrace from the righteous Rhesus, at one point personally trying to [[BadBoss
execute his own daughter]].]]innocent scouts]] to cover up a rushed error.
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad King]] [[EvilOldFolks Cotys]] is a power-hungry monarch who murdered his own son-in-law in order to become king. He later gave Hercules the task of preparing an army for him which he could then use to fight Rheseus, a supposedly cruel ruler who had massacred several villages. [[TheReveal It is revealed later on, however]], that Cotys himself had ordered those mass killings, and that Rheseus himself was a [[GoodAllAlong revolutionary]] that Cotys shifted the blame to. He then tried to callously [[WouldHurtAChild murder his own grandson]] in front of Hercules's eyes, and later tried to [[OffingTheOffspring execute his own daughter]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad [[spoiler:[[BigBad King]] [[EvilOldFolks Cotys]] is a power-hungry monarch who murdered his own son-in-law in order to become king. He later gave Hercules the task of preparing an army for him which he could then use to fight Rheseus, a supposedly cruel ruler who had massacred several villages. [[TheReveal It is revealed later on, however]], that Cotys himself had ordered those mass killings, and that Rheseus himself was a [[GoodAllAlong revolutionary]] that Cotys shifted the blame to. He then tried to callously [[WouldHurtAChild murder his own grandson]] in front of Hercules's eyes, and later tried to [[OffingTheOffspring execute his own daughter]].]]
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: While the effects are better than the ''other'' [[Film/TheLegendOfHercules Hercules film]] (especially in regards with the lion which looks pretty sweet), they're still rather unconvincing when placed with human actors. Most noticeably during the fight with the hydra. Granted, once you realize the [[TallTale purpose of those creatures]], the effect comes off as a little less jarring.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: SpecialEffectFailure: While the effects are better than the ''other'' [[Film/TheLegendOfHercules Hercules film]] (especially in regards with the lion which looks pretty sweet), they're still rather unconvincing when placed with human actors. Most noticeably during the fight with the hydra. Granted, once you realize the [[TallTale purpose of those creatures]], the effect comes off as a little less jarring.
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** The Rock is now playing an actual superpowered demigod in an [[WesternAnimation/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} another film involving Hercules.]]

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** The Rock is now playing an actual would later play another superpowered demigod in an [[WesternAnimation/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} another film involving starring Hercules.]]
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: While the effects are better than the ''other'' [[Film/TheLegendOfHercules Hercules film]] (especially in regards with the lion which looks pretty sweet), they're still rather unconvincing when placed with human actors. Most noticeably during the fight with the hydra.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: While the effects are better than the ''other'' [[Film/TheLegendOfHercules Hercules film]] (especially in regards with the lion which looks pretty sweet), they're still rather unconvincing when placed with human actors. Most noticeably during the fight with the hydra. Granted, once you realize the [[TallTale purpose of those creatures]], the effect comes off as a little less jarring.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: This a movie about Hercules, where his exploits are hit with {{Demythification}}, resulting in a Hercules movie that has none of the events that made the character famous. Of course, none of the events that made him famous were in the original comic book, either (but since the movie omits the comic's subtitle ''Thracian Wars'' and makes no mention of it being based on a comic, the audience is left clueless).



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: As noted under AudienceAlienatingPremise, this is a movie about Hercules that depicts his battles with famous monsters as nothing more than tall tales, rather than using them as major plot points.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: As noted under AudienceAlienatingPremise, this This is a movie about Hercules that depicts his battles with famous monsters as nothing more than tall tales, rather than using them as major plot points.
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* ClicheStorm: According to [[http://io9.com/brett-ratners-hercules-is-a-lie-dont-fall-for-it-1610881361 this unfavorable review]] by Rob Bricken, which also includes [[JustForFun/NotableReferencesToTVTropes a mention of TV Tropes]] and a link to our TrainingThePeacefulVillagers page.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: This a movie about Hercules, where his exploits are hit a {{Demythification}}, resulting in a Hercules movie that has none of the events that made the character famous. Of course, none of the events that made him famous were in the original comic book, either.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: This a movie about Hercules, where his exploits are hit a with {{Demythification}}, resulting in a Hercules movie that has none of the events that made the character famous. Of course, none of the events that made him famous were in the original comic book, either.either (but since the movie omits the comic's subtitle ''Thracian Wars'' and makes no mention of it being based on a comic, the audience is left clueless).

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* HilariousInHindsight: The Rock is now playing an actual superpowered demigod in an [[WesternAnimation/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} another film involving Hercules.]]

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** Tydeus is played by Norwegian actor Creator/AkselHennie, who also voiced teenage Hercules in the Norwegian dub of [[WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} the Disney version.
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** Joe Anderson as Phineas is also memorable, especially since, again his performance helping him from being a one-note character.

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** Joe Anderson as Phineas is also memorable, especially since, again his performance helping helps him from being a one-note character.

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** Despite being what he is, John Hurt makes Cotys a very memorable villain.

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** Despite being what he is, John Hurt makes Cotys a very memorable villain. Joseph Fiennes likewise makes Eurystheus memorable. Had they been portrayed by any other actors, the two would have been one-note and not as memorable, ultimately being indistinguishable from other sword and sandal villains.


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** Joe Anderson as Phineas is also memorable, especially since, again his performance helping him from being a one-note character.
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** Despite the movie's pretext to {{Demythification}}, it doesn't commit to it, with Hercules' SuperStrength showing up at points where the movie needs an easy way out of a tight spot.

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** Despite the movie's pretext to {{Demythification}}, it doesn't commit to it, with Hercules' SuperStrength showing up at points where the movie needs an easy way out of a tight spot. This is especially notable, since the 2005 Hallmark miniseries portrayed it as being an CharlesAtlasSuperpower brought on by TrainingFromHell, but this later adaptation gives no such explanation for it.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: This a movie about Hercules, where his exploits are hit a {{Demythification}}, resulting in a Hercules movie that has none of the events that made the character famous.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: This a movie about Hercules, where his exploits are hit a {{Demythification}}, resulting in a Hercules movie that has none of the events that made the character famous. Of course, none of the events that made him famous were in the original comic book, either.
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** Despite the movie's pretext to {{Demythification}}, it doesn't commit to it, with Hercules' SuperStrength showing up at points where the movie needs an easy why out of a tight spot.

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** Despite the movie's pretext to {{Demythification}}, it doesn't commit to it, with Hercules' SuperStrength showing up at points where the movie needs an easy why way out of a tight spot.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: This a movie about Hercules, where his exploits are hit a {{Demythification}}, resulting in a Hercules movie that has none of the events that made the character famous.


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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: As noted under AudienceAlienatingPremise, this is a movie about Hercules that depicts his battles with famous monsters as nothing more than tall tales, rather than using them as major plot points.
** Despite the movie's pretext to {{Demythification}}, it doesn't commit to it, with Hercules' SuperStrength showing up at points where the movie needs an easy why out of a tight spot.
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** Rufus Sewell's performance as Autolycus is one of the most memorable in the film.
** Christopher Fairbank as minor character Gryza.

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** Rufus Sewell's Creator/RufusSewell's performance as Autolycus is one of the most memorable in the film.
** Christopher Fairbank Creator/ChristopherFairbank as minor character Gryza.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Rock is now playing an actual superpowered demigod in an [[Disney/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[Disney/{{Hercules}} another film involving Hercules.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: The Rock is now playing an actual superpowered demigod in an [[Disney/{{Moana}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[Disney/{{Hercules}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} another film involving Hercules.]]
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: While the effects are better than the ''other'' [[Film/TheLegendOfHercules Hercules film]] (especially in regards with the lion which looks pretty sweet), they're still pretty fake-looking. Most noticeably during the fight with the hydra.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: While the effects are better than the ''other'' [[Film/TheLegendOfHercules Hercules film]] (especially in regards with the lion which looks pretty sweet), they're still pretty fake-looking.rather unconvincing when placed with human actors. Most noticeably during the fight with the hydra.
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* NarmCharm: The Rock's line, "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis I. Am. HERCULES!!]]" has this effect due to its overly-dramatic delivery. It becomes a real-life CrowningMomentOfFunny when you realize that Rock, according to an interview with Conan O'Brien, went so [[LargeHam over the top]] with that line that he ''literally blacked out'' when he was done screaming.

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* NarmCharm: The Rock's line, "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis I. Am. HERCULES!!]]" has this effect due to its overly-dramatic delivery. It becomes a real-life CrowningMomentOfFunny SugarWiki/{{Funny Moment|s}} when you realize that Rock, according to an interview with Conan O'Brien, went so [[LargeHam over the top]] with that line that he ''literally blacked out'' when he was done screaming.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Amphiaraus, due to being one of the funniest character and being played by Creator/IanMcShane.

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due to being one of the funniest character and being played by Creator/IanMcShane.Creator/IanMcShane.
** Despite being what he is, John Hurt makes Cotys a very memorable villain.
** Rufus Sewell's performance as Autolycus is one of the most memorable in the film.
** Christopher Fairbank as minor character Gryza.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Rock is now playing another superpowered demigod in an [[Disney/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[Disney/{{Hercules}} another film involving Hercules.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: The Rock is now playing another an actual superpowered demigod in an [[Disney/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[Disney/{{Hercules}} another film involving Hercules.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Rock is now playing another superpowered demigod in an [[Disney/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[Disney/{{Hercules}} another film adaptation of the Herculean myth.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: The Rock is now playing another superpowered demigod in an [[Disney/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[Disney/{{Hercules}} another film adaptation of the Herculean myth.involving Hercules.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Rock is now playing another superpowered demigod in an [[Disney/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[Disney/{{Hercules}} one of the more famous adaptations of the Herculean myth.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: The Rock is now playing another superpowered demigod in an [[Disney/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[Disney/{{Hercules}} one of the more famous adaptations another film adaptation of the Herculean myth.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Rock is now playing another superpowered demigod in an [[Disney/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[Disney/{{Hercules}} one of the more famous versions of the Herculean myth.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: The Rock is now playing another superpowered demigod in an [[Disney/{{Moana}} animated film,]] brought to you by the same company that produced [[Disney/{{Hercules}} one of the more famous versions adaptations of the Herculean myth.]]

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