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*** It's also very irritating that Ales Kot, in his ''Secret Avengers'' run, understood Clint Barton better than Lemire did. Clint is presented as a goofball and most people, including Jessica and Natasha, don't think much of him at times -- but Maria Hill points out that is precisely why he's so dangerous and effective. The same run also portrays Clint as the subject of a great deal of HeroWorship from Deadpool, who finds his BadassNormal ArcherArchetype gimmick to be ''awesome''.
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*** It's also very irritating that Ales Kot, in his ''Secret Avengers'' run, understood Clint Barton better than Lemire did. Clint is presented as a goofball and most people, including Jessica and Natasha, don't think much of him at times -- but Maria Hill points out that is precisely why he's so dangerous and effective. The same run also portrays Clint as the subject of a great deal of HeroWorship from Deadpool, who finds his BadassNormal ArcherArchetype archer gimmick to be ''awesome''.
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* FandomRivalry: [[AlternateCompanyEquivalent Naturally]], with the Marvel/DC rivalry, Hawkeye and ComicBook/GreenArrow, by virtue of being the two most notable ArcherArchetype superheroes, resulting in many "who's better" debates. These can get pretty toxic at times too, especially when it comes to fans who are only actually familiar with the MCU and CW versions.
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* FandomRivalry: [[AlternateCompanyEquivalent Naturally]], with the Marvel/DC rivalry, Hawkeye and ComicBook/GreenArrow, by virtue of being the two most notable ArcherArchetype archer superheroes, resulting in many "who's better" debates. These can get pretty toxic at times too, especially when it comes to fans who are only actually familiar with the MCU and CW versions.
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* NotBadassEnoughForFans: Despite being one of the Avengers' earliest members, and the longest lasting BadassNormal member, Clint has struggled to get the same kind of respect Captain America or Iron Man get outside of universe.
** He gets it especially bad in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, though mostly from critics rather than fans. Basically, since he couldn't take Loki on in a fight (bear in mind, Loki caught him by surprise & held his own in fights against Thor & Captain America), got brainwashed, and was something of a DistressedDude for Black Widow to save, combined with not having superpowers and running out of arrows in the final fight, a lot of critics took to dismissing him as the lame member of the team, ignoring how he almost single-handedly took down the Helicarrier. It hasn't been helped by his lack of focus in the films, being almost completely absent from Phase 2 thanks to scheduling difficulties with Jeremy Renner. This was especially damaging since he was originally scheduled to appear in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'', where he likely would have been given a more impressive showing than in ''The Avengers'' (since the lack of other high-powered superheroes would have removed the OvershadowedByAwesome factor). This has been somewhat mitigated by [[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron later]] [[Film/AvengersEndgame films]] in the MCU where Clint gets more focus and better demonstrates his personality and capabilities as a BadassNormal, resulting in a somewhat more positive reception.
** To a similar extent, this has affected Mockingbird too, by virtue of being AdaptedOut of the MCU films and only appearing in ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', the most overlooked outing in the MCU and one now rendered largely non-canon. Essentially, as she's only known to comic audiences, and even there is quite an obscure character [[NeverLiveItDown mostly known for wearing a "Ask Me About My Feminist Agenda" T-shirt]], it's not uncommon for her to be dismissed. This got particularly bad after MCU Black Widow took to using Bobbi's signature weapons, leading to the popular perception that staves are ''Widow's'' weapons, and thus lead to Bobbi being accused of ItsTheSameNowItSucks, despite this being ''her'' weapon first[[note]]which is quite literal; she actually predates Nightwing's use of this fighting style by several years; Daredevil predates her, but even there, his baton/billy club works considerably differently than hers[[/note]]. With Bobbi listed on the data-mined list of upcoming characters for ''VideoGame/MarvelsAvengers'', some people were remiss at the idea due to a perception she'd just be a worse Natasha, who is also seen as the weakest character in the game.
** He gets it especially bad in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, though mostly from critics rather than fans. Basically, since he couldn't take Loki on in a fight (bear in mind, Loki caught him by surprise & held his own in fights against Thor & Captain America), got brainwashed, and was something of a DistressedDude for Black Widow to save, combined with not having superpowers and running out of arrows in the final fight, a lot of critics took to dismissing him as the lame member of the team, ignoring how he almost single-handedly took down the Helicarrier. It hasn't been helped by his lack of focus in the films, being almost completely absent from Phase 2 thanks to scheduling difficulties with Jeremy Renner. This was especially damaging since he was originally scheduled to appear in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'', where he likely would have been given a more impressive showing than in ''The Avengers'' (since the lack of other high-powered superheroes would have removed the OvershadowedByAwesome factor). This has been somewhat mitigated by [[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron later]] [[Film/AvengersEndgame films]] in the MCU where Clint gets more focus and better demonstrates his personality and capabilities as a BadassNormal, resulting in a somewhat more positive reception.
** To a similar extent, this has affected Mockingbird too, by virtue of being AdaptedOut of the MCU films and only appearing in ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', the most overlooked outing in the MCU and one now rendered largely non-canon. Essentially, as she's only known to comic audiences, and even there is quite an obscure character [[NeverLiveItDown mostly known for wearing a "Ask Me About My Feminist Agenda" T-shirt]], it's not uncommon for her to be dismissed. This got particularly bad after MCU Black Widow took to using Bobbi's signature weapons, leading to the popular perception that staves are ''Widow's'' weapons, and thus lead to Bobbi being accused of ItsTheSameNowItSucks, despite this being ''her'' weapon first[[note]]which is quite literal; she actually predates Nightwing's use of this fighting style by several years; Daredevil predates her, but even there, his baton/billy club works considerably differently than hers[[/note]]. With Bobbi listed on the data-mined list of upcoming characters for ''VideoGame/MarvelsAvengers'', some people were remiss at the idea due to a perception she'd just be a worse Natasha, who is also seen as the weakest character in the game.
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Despite being one of the Avengers' earliest members, and the longest lasting BadassNormal member, Clint has struggled to get the same kind of respect Captain America or Iron Man get outside of universe.
** He gets it especially bad in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, though mostly from critics rather than fans. Basically, since he couldn't take Loki on in a fight (bear in mind, Loki caught him by surprise & held his own in fights against Thor & Captain America), got brainwashed, and was something of a DistressedDude for Black Widow to save, combined with not having superpowers and running out of arrows in the final fight, a lot of critics took to dismissing him as the lame member of the team, ignoring how he almost single-handedly took down the Helicarrier. It hasn't been helped by his lack of focus in the films, being almost completely absent from Phase 2 thanks to scheduling difficulties with Jeremy Renner. This was especially damaging since he was originally scheduled to appear in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'', where he likely would have been given a more impressive showing than in ''The Avengers'' (since the lack of other high-powered superheroes would have removed the OvershadowedByAwesome factor). This has been somewhat mitigated by [[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron later]] [[Film/AvengersEndgame films]] in the MCU where Clint gets more focus and better demonstrates his personality and capabilities as a BadassNormal, resulting in a somewhat more positive reception.
** To a similar extent, this has affected Mockingbird too, by virtue of being AdaptedOut of the MCU films and only appearing in ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', the most overlooked outing in the MCU and one now rendered largely non-canon. Essentially, as she's only known to comic audiences, and even there is quite an obscure character [[NeverLiveItDown mostly known for wearing a "Ask Me About My Feminist Agenda" T-shirt]], it's not uncommon for her to be dismissed. This got particularly bad after MCU Black Widow took to using Bobbi's signature weapons, leading to the popular perception that staves are ''Widow's'' weapons, and thus lead to Bobbi being accused of ItsTheSameNowItSucks, despite this being ''her'' weapon first[[note]]which is quite literal; she actually predates Nightwing's use of this fighting style by several years; Daredevil predates her, but even there, his baton/billy club works considerably differently than hers[[/note]]. With Bobbi listed on the data-mined list of upcoming characters for ''VideoGame/MarvelsAvengers'', some people were remiss at the idea due to a perception she'd just be a worse Natasha, who is also seen as the weakest character in the game.
** He gets it especially bad in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, though mostly from critics rather than fans. Basically, since he couldn't take Loki on in a fight (bear in mind, Loki caught him by surprise & held his own in fights against Thor & Captain America), got brainwashed, and was something of a DistressedDude for Black Widow to save, combined with not having superpowers and running out of arrows in the final fight, a lot of critics took to dismissing him as the lame member of the team, ignoring how he almost single-handedly took down the Helicarrier. It hasn't been helped by his lack of focus in the films, being almost completely absent from Phase 2 thanks to scheduling difficulties with Jeremy Renner. This was especially damaging since he was originally scheduled to appear in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'', where he likely would have been given a more impressive showing than in ''The Avengers'' (since the lack of other high-powered superheroes would have removed the OvershadowedByAwesome factor). This has been somewhat mitigated by [[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron later]] [[Film/AvengersEndgame films]] in the MCU where Clint gets more focus and better demonstrates his personality and capabilities as a BadassNormal, resulting in a somewhat more positive reception.
** To a similar extent, this has affected Mockingbird too, by virtue of being AdaptedOut of the MCU films and only appearing in ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', the most overlooked outing in the MCU and one now rendered largely non-canon. Essentially, as she's only known to comic audiences, and even there is quite an obscure character [[NeverLiveItDown mostly known for wearing a "Ask Me About My Feminist Agenda" T-shirt]], it's not uncommon for her to be dismissed. This got particularly bad after MCU Black Widow took to using Bobbi's signature weapons, leading to the popular perception that staves are ''Widow's'' weapons, and thus lead to Bobbi being accused of ItsTheSameNowItSucks, despite this being ''her'' weapon first[[note]]which is quite literal; she actually predates Nightwing's use of this fighting style by several years; Daredevil predates her, but even there, his baton/billy club works considerably differently than hers[[/note]]. With Bobbi listed on the data-mined list of upcoming characters for ''VideoGame/MarvelsAvengers'', some people were remiss at the idea due to a perception she'd just be a worse Natasha, who is also seen as the weakest character in the game.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Kelly Thompson's [[Comicbook/HawkeyeKateBishop Kate-centered run]] in its handling of the Clint/Kate partnership is this in comparison to Lemire's run, which portrayed Clint and Kate's partnership as rather harsh and one-sided, with Kate often remarking on how "washed-up" Clint is and repeatedly outdoing him. In Thompsons's run, Kate is the first to defend Clint's reputation as a hero, they are both portrayed as equally BadassNormal, and while the two of them do bicker, they still support each other and remain good friends throughout.
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Misuse. They Wasted A Perfectly Good Plot is when the author introduces interesting plot points that are underdeveloped or not touched upon. This entry is only complaining that a story didn't match readers' experctations.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** For the most part Kate's ongoing is pretty solid, but one thing many were annoyed by was how the series ''could'' have given an opportunity to crossover with the LA-local heroes like ComicBook/{{Runaways}} or [[ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider Robbie Reyes]], which never happened (in Kate's book, at least; she and Robbie ''did'' team-up in ''ComicBook/TheUnbelievableGwenpool'' though). Not to mention, none of the Young Avengers got to appear either (at best, America and Kate teamed-up in America's ongoing), which given how many had been in limbo during this time (Eli Bradley and Tommy Shepherd, for instance), would have been welcomed, but instead Kate gets a new supporting cast and the only hero to drop by, besides Clint, is ComicBook/JessicaJones.
** The numerous AbortedArc stories noted on the main page, particularly ones from ''Hawkeye and Mockingbird''. Most notably, the fact Bobbi and Clint's break-up at the end of ''Ghosts'' was only intended to be a temporary break-up, and there was obvious seeds for a reconciliation, they just needed to work through some personal demons. As Clint then just hooks up with Spider-Woman, and subsequent writers have chosen to ignore Bobbi's PTSD and Clint's growing anger issues, one can't help but regret that we never got to see them overcome these issues.
** For the most part Kate's ongoing is pretty solid, but one thing many were annoyed by was how the series ''could'' have given an opportunity to crossover with the LA-local heroes like ComicBook/{{Runaways}} or [[ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider Robbie Reyes]], which never happened (in Kate's book, at least; she and Robbie ''did'' team-up in ''ComicBook/TheUnbelievableGwenpool'' though). Not to mention, none of the Young Avengers got to appear either (at best, America and Kate teamed-up in America's ongoing), which given how many had been in limbo during this time (Eli Bradley and Tommy Shepherd, for instance), would have been welcomed, but instead Kate gets a new supporting cast and the only hero to drop by, besides Clint, is ComicBook/JessicaJones.
** The numerous AbortedArc stories noted on the main page, particularly ones from ''Hawkeye and Mockingbird''. Most notably, the fact Bobbi and Clint's break-up at the end of ''Ghosts'' was only intended to be a temporary break-up, and there was obvious seeds for a reconciliation, they just needed to work through some personal demons. As Clint then just hooks up with Spider-Woman, and subsequent writers have chosen to ignore Bobbi's PTSD and Clint's growing anger issues, one can't help but regret that we never got to see them overcome these issues.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** For the most part Kate's ongoing is pretty solid, but one thing many were annoyed by was how the series ''could'' have given an opportunity to crossover with the LA-local heroes like ComicBook/{{Runaways}} or [[ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider Robbie Reyes]], which never happened (in Kate's book, at least; she and Robbie ''did'' team-up in ''ComicBook/TheUnbelievableGwenpool'' though). Not to mention, none of the Young Avengers got to appear either (at best, America and Kate teamed-up in America's ongoing), which given how many had been in limbo during this time (Eli Bradley and Tommy Shepherd, for instance), would have been welcomed, but instead Kate gets a new supporting cast and the only hero to drop by, besides Clint, is ComicBook/JessicaJones.
**TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The numerous AbortedArc stories noted on the main page, particularly ones from ''Hawkeye and Mockingbird''. Most notably, the fact Bobbi and Clint's break-up at the end of ''Ghosts'' was only intended to be a temporary break-up, and there was obvious seeds for a reconciliation, they just needed to work through some personal demons. As Clint then just hooks up with Spider-Woman, and subsequent writers have chosen to ignore Bobbi's PTSD and Clint's growing anger issues, one can't help but regret that we never got to see them overcome these issues.
** For the most part Kate's ongoing is pretty solid, but one thing many were annoyed by was how the series ''could'' have given an opportunity to crossover with the LA-local heroes like ComicBook/{{Runaways}} or [[ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider Robbie Reyes]], which never happened (in Kate's book, at least; she and Robbie ''did'' team-up in ''ComicBook/TheUnbelievableGwenpool'' though). Not to mention, none of the Young Avengers got to appear either (at best, America and Kate teamed-up in America's ongoing), which given how many had been in limbo during this time (Eli Bradley and Tommy Shepherd, for instance), would have been welcomed, but instead Kate gets a new supporting cast and the only hero to drop by, besides Clint, is ComicBook/JessicaJones.
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** Strangely averted with how he treated Mockingbird when he found out she killed Phantom Rider. Though even his most ardent fans consider him ''unquestionably wrong'', most also appreciate how he had CharacterDevelopment that made him realise he was being a tool. Outside of the worst detractors, most forgive him for being such an asshole and it doesn't come up that often. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for Bobbi herself, since Phantom Rider has since became her most reoccurring nemesis.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Clint's dynamic with Steve Rogers during their early Avengers tenure (which many view as UnresolvedSexualTension on his part), and his history of flirting with men (see the HoYay section), many read Clint as bisexual, albeit probably in the closet. There's the noteworthy fact Clint primarily wears blue, purple, and pink on his costume, as in the colours of the bisexual pride flag, adding to this, and his IdiotHero characterisation just adding to the image of him as a 'disaster bi'.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Clint's dynamic with Steve Rogers during their early Avengers tenure (which many view as UnresolvedSexualTension on his part), and his history of flirting with men (see the HoYay section), men, many read Clint as bisexual, albeit probably in the closet. There's the noteworthy fact Clint primarily wears blue, purple, and pink on his costume, as in the colours of the bisexual pride flag, adding to this, and his IdiotHero characterisation just adding to the image of him as a 'disaster bi'.
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* HoYay: Clint has buckets of this with [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve Rogers]], [[ComicBook/AntMan Henry Pym]], ComicBook/BuckyBarnes (some circles even like the two paired with Natasha and Bobbi as an [[{{OT3}} OT4]]), and in recent years with ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'' of all people. The latter is more one-sided from Deadpool's side, but Clint is one of the few people who seems more amused by Deadpool's antics rather than the typical annoyed response most have.
** Clint and [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] have more then their fair share of [[https://s27.postimg.org/um04ninrn/skfoijosd.jpg moments]]
** Matthew Rosenberg, who wrote ''Freefall'' and ''Tales of Suspense'', has admitted he ships Clint and Bucky, and that much of the HoYay between them was deliberate. What's more, he claims he'd make it canon if Marvel would let him.
** Clint and [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] have more then their fair share of [[https://s27.postimg.org/um04ninrn/skfoijosd.jpg moments]]
** Matthew Rosenberg, who wrote ''Freefall'' and ''Tales of Suspense'', has admitted he ships Clint and Bucky, and that much of the HoYay between them was deliberate. What's more, he claims he'd make it canon if Marvel would let him.
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* HoYay: Clint has buckets of this with [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve Rogers]], [[ComicBook/AntMan Henry Pym]], ComicBook/BuckyBarnes (some circles even like the two paired with Natasha and Bobbi as an [[{{OT3}} OT4]]), and in recent years with With ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'' of all people. The latter is more one-sided from Deadpool's side, but people, as fans noticed Clint is one of the few people who seems more amused by Deadpool's antics rather than the typical annoyed response most have.
** %%Admnistrivia/WeblinksAreNotExamples** Clint and [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] have more then their fair share of [[https://s27.postimg.org/um04ninrn/skfoijosd.jpg moments]]
** Matthew Rosenberg, who wrote ''Freefall'' and ''Tales of Suspense'', has admitted he ships Clint and Bucky, and that much of the HoYay between them was deliberate. What's more, he claims he'd make it canon if Marvel would let him.moments]]
** Matthew Rosenberg, who wrote ''Freefall'' and ''Tales of Suspense'', has admitted he ships Clint and Bucky, and that much of the HoYay between them was deliberate. What's more, he claims he'd make it canon if Marvel would let him.
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* FandomRivalry:
** As time has gone on, fans of the comic character have grown ''increasingly'' bitter about the MCU and how it's adapted Clint. TheyChangedItNowItSucks is a large sticking point, but him being OutOfFocus is also drawn on. Being played by Creator/JeremyRenner, who over time became an increasingly polarising choice due to both looking nothing like the character and his actor gaining a lot of controversy off-screen, doesn't help. Nor, does the fact the comics' attempt at synergy with the films meant that much of the changes made to Hawkeye in the films got imposed over the comics, such as erasing his costume and canonising the MemeticLoser status. This tends to be quite one-sided though, as the MCU version is so unpopular, fans of it just don't care enough about Hawkeye to protest, and very few would argue the films have done anything to ''improve'' his character.
*** This directly plays into the ShipToShipCombat going on between Hawkeye/Mockingbird and Hawkeye/Black Widow. Comic fans are overwhelmingly in-favour of Clint and Bobbi, because they were married for a decade, are still in love now and only broke up because of issues they just needed more time to resolve, and how ''fun'' they were together. MCU fans though are overwhelmingly in-favour of Clint and Natasha, largely because their comic loves aren't adapted and the love stories they were given in the movies weren't very strong, while their own friendship and bond is so strong many adored it.
** [[AlternateCompanyEquivalent Naturally]], with the Marvel/DC rivalry, Hawkeye and ComicBook/GreenArrow, by virtue of being the two most notable ArcherArchetype superheroes, resulting in many "who's better" debates. These can get pretty toxic at times too, especially when it comes to fans who are only actually familiar with the MCU and CW versions.
** As time has gone on, fans of the comic character have grown ''increasingly'' bitter about the MCU and how it's adapted Clint. TheyChangedItNowItSucks is a large sticking point, but him being OutOfFocus is also drawn on. Being played by Creator/JeremyRenner, who over time became an increasingly polarising choice due to both looking nothing like the character and his actor gaining a lot of controversy off-screen, doesn't help. Nor, does the fact the comics' attempt at synergy with the films meant that much of the changes made to Hawkeye in the films got imposed over the comics, such as erasing his costume and canonising the MemeticLoser status. This tends to be quite one-sided though, as the MCU version is so unpopular, fans of it just don't care enough about Hawkeye to protest, and very few would argue the films have done anything to ''improve'' his character.
*** This directly plays into the ShipToShipCombat going on between Hawkeye/Mockingbird and Hawkeye/Black Widow. Comic fans are overwhelmingly in-favour of Clint and Bobbi, because they were married for a decade, are still in love now and only broke up because of issues they just needed more time to resolve, and how ''fun'' they were together. MCU fans though are overwhelmingly in-favour of Clint and Natasha, largely because their comic loves aren't adapted and the love stories they were given in the movies weren't very strong, while their own friendship and bond is so strong many adored it.
** [[AlternateCompanyEquivalent Naturally]], with the Marvel/DC rivalry, Hawkeye and ComicBook/GreenArrow, by virtue of being the two most notable ArcherArchetype superheroes, resulting in many "who's better" debates. These can get pretty toxic at times too, especially when it comes to fans who are only actually familiar with the MCU and CW versions.
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* FandomRivalry:
** As time has gone on, fans of the comic character have grown ''increasingly'' bitter about the MCU and how it's adapted Clint. TheyChangedItNowItSucks is a large sticking point, but him being OutOfFocus is also drawn on. Being played by Creator/JeremyRenner, who over time became an increasingly polarising choice due to both looking nothing like the character and his actor gaining a lot of controversy off-screen, doesn't help. Nor, does the fact the comics' attempt at synergy with the films meant that much of the changes made to Hawkeye in the films got imposed over the comics, such as erasing his costume and canonising the MemeticLoser status. This tends to be quite one-sided though, as the MCU version is so unpopular, fans of it just don't care enough about Hawkeye to protest, and very few would argue the films have done anything to ''improve'' his character.
*** This directly plays into the ShipToShipCombat going on between Hawkeye/Mockingbird and Hawkeye/Black Widow. Comic fans are overwhelmingly in-favour of Clint and Bobbi, because they were married for a decade, are still in love now and only broke up because of issues they just needed more time to resolve, and how ''fun'' they were together. MCU fans though are overwhelmingly in-favour of Clint and Natasha, largely because their comic loves aren't adapted and the love stories they were given in the movies weren't very strong, while their own friendship and bond is so strong many adored it.
**FandomRivalry: [[AlternateCompanyEquivalent Naturally]], with the Marvel/DC rivalry, Hawkeye and ComicBook/GreenArrow, by virtue of being the two most notable ArcherArchetype superheroes, resulting in many "who's better" debates. These can get pretty toxic at times too, especially when it comes to fans who are only actually familiar with the MCU and CW versions.
** As time has gone on, fans of the comic character have grown ''increasingly'' bitter about the MCU and how it's adapted Clint. TheyChangedItNowItSucks is a large sticking point, but him being OutOfFocus is also drawn on. Being played by Creator/JeremyRenner, who over time became an increasingly polarising choice due to both looking nothing like the character and his actor gaining a lot of controversy off-screen, doesn't help. Nor, does the fact the comics' attempt at synergy with the films meant that much of the changes made to Hawkeye in the films got imposed over the comics, such as erasing his costume and canonising the MemeticLoser status. This tends to be quite one-sided though, as the MCU version is so unpopular, fans of it just don't care enough about Hawkeye to protest, and very few would argue the films have done anything to ''improve'' his character.
*** This directly plays into the ShipToShipCombat going on between Hawkeye/Mockingbird and Hawkeye/Black Widow. Comic fans are overwhelmingly in-favour of Clint and Bobbi, because they were married for a decade, are still in love now and only broke up because of issues they just needed more time to resolve, and how ''fun'' they were together. MCU fans though are overwhelmingly in-favour of Clint and Natasha, largely because their comic loves aren't adapted and the love stories they were given in the movies weren't very strong, while their own friendship and bond is so strong many adored it.
**
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* HilariousInHindsight: Pizza Dog/Lucky's original name was Series/{{Arrow}}.
** In Magazine/{{MAD}}'s parody of the 2012 ''Avengers'' movie, Hawkeye notes what a stupid idea a boomerang arrow is. One Fraction story involves Clint using a boomerang arrow and it actually works.
** In Magazine/{{MAD}}'s parody of the 2012 ''Avengers'' movie, Hawkeye notes what a stupid idea a boomerang arrow is. One Fraction story involves Clint using a boomerang arrow and it actually works.
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** [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-hawkeye-initiative The Hawkeye Initiative]], with hilarious results. (NSFW.)
** From the Comicbook/MarvelNOW series, "Hawkguy" (which is even used for one of Clint's versions in ''Videogame/MarvelPuzzleQuest'') and "[[VerbalTic bro]]".
** From the Comicbook/MarvelNOW series, "Hawkguy" (which is even used for one of Clint's versions in ''Videogame/MarvelPuzzleQuest'') and "[[VerbalTic bro]]".
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** "Gosh, I love arrows."
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%%Administrivia/WeblinksAreNotExamples** [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-hawkeye-initiative The Hawkeye Initiative]], with hilarious results. (NSFW.)
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* FanNickname:
** Pizza Dog. (The dog's real name is Arrow, but he's been rechristened as Lucky.)
** Hawkguy; see MemeticMutation below.
*** On the same lines, Kate gets "Lady Hawkguy" to a lesser extent.
** Pizza Dog. (The dog's real name is Arrow, but he's been rechristened as Lucky.)
** Hawkguy; see MemeticMutation below.
*** On the same lines, Kate gets "Lady Hawkguy" to a lesser extent.
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**FanNickname: Pizza Dog. (The dog's real name is Arrow, but he's been rechristened as Lucky.)
** Hawkguy; see MemeticMutation below.
*** On the same lines, Kate gets "Lady Hawkguy" to a lesser extent.)
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** Hawkguy; see MemeticMutation below.
*** On the same lines, Kate gets "Lady Hawkguy" to a lesser extent.
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** Sometimes Clint's appearances in other books will simply cast him as the PluckyComicRelief, no matter what trauma he's experienced recently in whatever his main title is at the time. FridgeBrilliance in that this is usually how depression works, as people who are suffering will appear perfectly fine, even fun-loving and full of energy, around others, with little to no hint at what's going on with them.
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* CantUnhearIt: Though it's been several years, ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' solidified Creator/ChrisCox as the voice for many as Clint's, especially when combined with him voicing the character in several subsequent video games. Creator/TroyBaker, who voiced him in ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' and several subsequent works is also quite popular.
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** Though it's been several years,''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' solidified Creator/ChrisCox as the voice for many as Clint's, especially when combined with him voicing the character in several subsequent video games. Creator/TroyBaker, who voiced him in ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' and several subsequent works is also quite popular.
** Though it's been several years,
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** It's pretty much agreed that Hawkeye is the one of the few characters who can be shipped with almost anyone and it wouldn't be weird. [[ComicBook/BlackWidow Natasha]], [[ComicBook/ScarletWitch Wanda]], [[ComicBook/{{Mockingbird}} Bobbi]], [[ComicBook/SheHulk Jenn]], [[ComicBook/TheWasp Jan]], and [[ComicBook/SpiderWoman Jess]] are the current canon pairings, but he's also been shipped with [[Series/AgentsOfSHIELD Phil Coulson]] (MCU version), [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve]], [[ComicBook/{{BuckyBarnes}} Bucky]], [[ComicBook/AntMan Hank]], [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol]], and [[MayDecemberRomance Kate]], along with many others.
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** It's pretty much agreed that Hawkeye is the one of the few characters who can be shipped with almost anyone and it wouldn't be weird. [[ComicBook/BlackWidow Natasha]], [[ComicBook/ScarletWitch Wanda]], [[ComicBook/{{Mockingbird}} Bobbi]], [[ComicBook/SheHulk Jenn]], [[ComicBook/TheWasp Jan]], and [[ComicBook/SpiderWoman Jess]] Jess]], and [[Characters/ThunderboltsFoundingMembers Karla]] are the current canon pairings, but he's also been shipped with [[Series/AgentsOfSHIELD Phil Coulson]] (MCU version), [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve]], [[ComicBook/{{BuckyBarnes}} Bucky]], [[ComicBook/AntMan Hank]], [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol]], and [[MayDecemberRomance Kate]], along with many others.
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** From the Comicbook/MarvelNOW series, "Hawkguy" and "[[VerbalTic bro]]".
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** There is a small but vocal number of fans of the character who are also members of the deaf community who hold Clint up as "their" hero due to his own deafness. To say the least, these fans were '''''not amused in the least''''' by Marvel suddenly shilling Kate Bishop. These people weren't completely mollified when Clint appeared in the MCU, either, since Renner-Hawkeye is ''hearing''.
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*** Also on the topic of Kate and negative reactions, much of the complaints against her character's personality from some fans of Clint can feel hollow and hypocritical, given that her behaviour mirrors Clint's own when he was her age. Many seem to forget when Clint was first introduced, he was a 19/20-year-old punk who repeatedly snarked and butted heads with Captain America, and was a ''much'' more disrespectful jerk to Steve. Kate at least demonstrates she genuinely respects and likes Clint, while Clint took a while before his snark evolved from genuine dislike to the VitriolicBestBuds dynamic it became, but the fact Kate is held at such derision from people for things Clint was doing first can make it appear a DoubleStandard on the part of some fans.
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Matt Fraction's run featured a few scenes that comically played the SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome of being a superhero without powers, namely Clint being banged up constantly and the fact he has the LogicalWeakness of being easily overpowered by mooks not obeying MookChivalry. This continued into Jeff Lemire's run, and to Hawkeye's appearances in over comics, much to fan derision despite Fraction's run being so acclaimed. In-part, this is because it failed to take into account the tone of the comic being a deconstructive parody, and by playing this depiction seriously they just depict Clint as a MemeticLoser. Lemire's run also had the problem that it played this with Clint to an even worse extent, to the point a ''single'' mook could knock him down, but ignored that Fraction's run demonstrated this was a problem for ''Kate'' too, and instead depicted her as a OneWomanArmy and HyperCompetentSidekick, leading to the BrokenBase between the two.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[LightIsNotGood Kazimierz "Kazi" Kazimierczak]], aka "[[SadClown Clown]]", is a deadly mercenary who has covered his identity and tracks so well over the years that he operates with impunity in showing his face and leaving his trademarks at crime scenes. With dozens of successful assassinations to his name, Clown personally takes on Hawkeye and his brother, crippling the latter while leaving Hawkeye deaf from the thrashing Clown dispenses. [[TheCharmer So charming]] that Kate Bishop crushes on his public guise and so efficient that his employers [[HypercompetentSidekick trust him with total control of their assets]], Clown takes on both Hawkeye and Kate at once even after having his arm wounded, nearly killing them both with his tactics and skill.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: For the most part Kate's ongoing is pretty solid, but one thing many were annoyed by was how the series ''could'' have given an opportunity to crossover with the LA-local heroes like ComicBook/{{Runaways}} or [[ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider Robbie Reyes]], which never happened (in Kate's book, at least; she and Robbie ''did'' team-up in ''ComicBook/TheUnbelievableGwenpool'' though). Not to mention, none of the Young Avengers got to appear either (at best, America and Kate teamed-up in America's ongoing), which given how many had been in limbo during this time (Eli Bradley and Tommy Shepherd, for instance), would have been welcomed, but instead Kate gets a new supporting cast and the only hero to drop by, besides Clint, is ComicBook/JessicaJones.
* The numerous AbortedArc stories noted on the main page, particularly ones from ''Hawkeye and Mockingbird''. Most notably, the fact Bobbi and Clint's break-up at the end of ''Ghosts'' was only intended to be a temporary break-up, and there was obvious seeds for a reconciliation, they just needed to work through some personal demons. As Clint then just hooks up with Spider-Woman, and subsequent writers have chosen to ignore Bobbi's PTSD and Clint's growing anger issues, one can't help but regret that we never got to see them overcome these issues.
* The numerous AbortedArc stories noted on the main page, particularly ones from ''Hawkeye and Mockingbird''. Most notably, the fact Bobbi and Clint's break-up at the end of ''Ghosts'' was only intended to be a temporary break-up, and there was obvious seeds for a reconciliation, they just needed to work through some personal demons. As Clint then just hooks up with Spider-Woman, and subsequent writers have chosen to ignore Bobbi's PTSD and Clint's growing anger issues, one can't help but regret that we never got to see them overcome these issues.
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** For the most part Kate's ongoing is pretty solid, but one thing many were annoyed by was how the series ''could'' have given an opportunity to crossover with the LA-local heroes like ComicBook/{{Runaways}} or [[ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider Robbie Reyes]], which never happened (in Kate's book, at least; she and Robbie ''did'' team-up in ''ComicBook/TheUnbelievableGwenpool'' though). Not to mention, none of the Young Avengers got to appear either (at best, America and Kate teamed-up in America's ongoing), which given how many had been in limbo during this time (Eli Bradley and Tommy Shepherd, for instance), would have been welcomed, but instead Kate gets a new supporting cast and the only hero to drop by, besides Clint, is ComicBook/JessicaJones.
* ** The numerous AbortedArc stories noted on the main page, particularly ones from ''Hawkeye and Mockingbird''. Most notably, the fact Bobbi and Clint's break-up at the end of ''Ghosts'' was only intended to be a temporary break-up, and there was obvious seeds for a reconciliation, they just needed to work through some personal demons. As Clint then just hooks up with Spider-Woman, and subsequent writers have chosen to ignore Bobbi's PTSD and Clint's growing anger issues, one can't help but regret that we never got to see them overcome these issues.
** For the most part Kate's ongoing is pretty solid, but one thing many were annoyed by was how the series ''could'' have given an opportunity to crossover with the LA-local heroes like ComicBook/{{Runaways}} or [[ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider Robbie Reyes]], which never happened (in Kate's book, at least; she and Robbie ''did'' team-up in ''ComicBook/TheUnbelievableGwenpool'' though). Not to mention, none of the Young Avengers got to appear either (at best, America and Kate teamed-up in America's ongoing), which given how many had been in limbo during this time (Eli Bradley and Tommy Shepherd, for instance), would have been welcomed, but instead Kate gets a new supporting cast and the only hero to drop by, besides Clint, is ComicBook/JessicaJones.
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** Sometimes Clint's appearances in other books will simply cast him as the PluckyComicRelief, no matter what trauma he's experienced recently in whatever his main title is at the time. FridgeBrilliance in that this is usually how depression works, as people who are suffering will appear perfectly fine, even fun-loving and full of energy, around others, with little to no hint at what's going on with them.
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* ContestedSequel: Fans of Fraction's run don't like Lemire's run very much. Some have accused Lemire's writing of Clint and Kate as reading more like exaggerated {{Fanon}} version of [[MemeticLoser the]] [[MemeticBadass two]] than their actual previous interpretations. It didn't help that writer [[Comicbook/{{Deadpool}} Gerry Duggan]] had previously released the well liked ''Hawkeye Vs Deadpool'' miniseries, demonstrating it was possible to write a more "goofy" Hawkeye while still staying faithful to the characters, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen leading some to wish ''he'' was writing the main book instead of Lemire.]]
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** The 90s miniseries is this to both his earlier miniseries and ''ComicBook/WestCoastAvengers'', as it suffers heavy DarkerAndEdgier treatment as it deals with Clint's man-angst after Bobbi's death. The result is a miniseries that most fans tend to forget and ignore.
** ''Hawkeye and Mockingbird'' was this to ''New Avengers: The Reunion''. On the one hand, it continued many of the elements people enjoyed about the previous miniseries, particularly the strong writing of both characters and their relationship. However, some felt that the use of Phantom Rider as the BigBad essentially dug up old wounds that were best moving on from, and though it started off strong the story just became too depressing as it had Bobbi once again treated as a CosmicPlaything. The result was unfortunately an AudienceAlienatingPremise, as what was ''intended'' as an ongoing instead became a six-issue series. The two follow-up miniseries', ''Widowmaker'' and ''Blindspot'', likewise, while fairly well-written Clint stories, unfortunately had Bobbi being OutOfFocus (the latter, she's not even in) enough that anyone who was attracted to the original for shipping reasons likely dropped off.
** Fans of Fraction's run don't like Lemire's run very much. Some have accused Lemire's writing of Clint and Kate as reading more like exaggerated {{Fanon}} version of [[MemeticLoser the]] [[MemeticBadass two]] than their actual previous interpretations. It didn't help that writer [[Comicbook/{{Deadpool}} Gerry Duggan]] had previously released the well liked ''Hawkeye Vs Deadpool'' miniseries, demonstrating it was possible to write a more "goofy" Hawkeye while still staying faithful to the characters, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen leading some to wish ''he'' was writing the main book instead of Lemire.]]
** The 90s miniseries is this to both his earlier miniseries and ''ComicBook/WestCoastAvengers'', as it suffers heavy DarkerAndEdgier treatment as it deals with Clint's man-angst after Bobbi's death. The result is a miniseries that most fans tend to forget and ignore.
** ''Hawkeye and Mockingbird'' was this to ''New Avengers: The Reunion''. On the one hand, it continued many of the elements people enjoyed about the previous miniseries, particularly the strong writing of both characters and their relationship. However, some felt that the use of Phantom Rider as the BigBad essentially dug up old wounds that were best moving on from, and though it started off strong the story just became too depressing as it had Bobbi once again treated as a CosmicPlaything. The result was unfortunately an AudienceAlienatingPremise, as what was ''intended'' as an ongoing instead became a six-issue series. The two follow-up miniseries', ''Widowmaker'' and ''Blindspot'', likewise, while fairly well-written Clint stories, unfortunately had Bobbi being OutOfFocus (the latter, she's not even in) enough that anyone who was attracted to the original for shipping reasons likely dropped off.
** Fans of Fraction's run don't like Lemire's run very much. Some have accused Lemire's writing of Clint and Kate as reading more like exaggerated {{Fanon}} version of [[MemeticLoser the]] [[MemeticBadass two]] than their actual previous interpretations. It didn't help that writer [[Comicbook/{{Deadpool}} Gerry Duggan]] had previously released the well liked ''Hawkeye Vs Deadpool'' miniseries, demonstrating it was possible to write a more "goofy" Hawkeye while still staying faithful to the characters, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen leading some to wish ''he'' was writing the main book instead of Lemire.]]
* IronWoobie: Clint, Bobbi, and Kate have all suffered immensely, the former two especially (see below for details), but despite that remain steadfast heroes who tend to get back up and get back to it, no matter how hard they get knocked down. Or how often.
* JerkassWoobie:
** At his worst, Clint can be a real jerk, but it's usually when his own self-loathing has boiled to the point he's lashing out, and even when it's not, he gets so much shit that one can't help but understand why he'd be so obnoxious. To a lesser extent, both Bobbi and Kate, largely for similar reasons.
** Barney is even moreso one, being he used to take out his own misery on Clint when they were children, abandoned him for being too idealistic, then fell into a life of crime. He was killed, then later revived, which he blamed Clint for, becoming a supervillain solely to hurt him, and though they patched things up, he was nearly killed protecting Clint and as a result decided to rob his brother so he could escape and start a new life.
** Swordsman and Trick-Shot, Clint's former mentors, were both assassins and supervillains who enjoyed a lengthy life of crime, and both respectively abused and mistreated Clint while he was studying with them, both in an attempt to beat him into becoming a useful accomplice. However, Swordsman had suffered a traumatic life beforehand that left him cynical and jaded, and though he tried to become a legitimate hero he struggled with his own vices and eventually committed a HeroicSacrifice. Trick-Shot, meanwhile, enjoyed his life of crime until his vices caught up with him and he developed serious cancer, causing him to struggle with his own mortality for years, eventually being manipulated into training Barney with the promise of treatment, only to instead be beaten, left untreated, and finally dumped on Clint's doorstep so he could die. They were ''real'' sons-of-bitches in their lives, but they both suffered enough and died in such ways one can't help but pity them, and their deaths were still hard on Clint despite what they did.
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** At his worst, Clint can be a real jerk, but it's usually when his own self-loathing has boiled to the point he's lashing out, and even when it's not, he gets so much shit that one can't help but understand why he'd be so obnoxious. To a lesser extent, both Bobbi and Kate, largely for similar reasons.
** Barney is even moreso one, being he used to take out his own misery on Clint when they were children, abandoned him for being too idealistic, then fell into a life of crime. He was killed, then later revived, which he blamed Clint for, becoming a supervillain solely to hurt him, and though they patched things up, he was nearly killed protecting Clint and as a result decided to rob his brother so he could escape and start a new life.
** Swordsman and Trick-Shot, Clint's former mentors, were both assassins and supervillains who enjoyed a lengthy life of crime, and both respectively abused and mistreated Clint while he was studying with them, both in an attempt to beat him into becoming a useful accomplice. However, Swordsman had suffered a traumatic life beforehand that left him cynical and jaded, and though he tried to become a legitimate hero he struggled with his own vices and eventually committed a HeroicSacrifice. Trick-Shot, meanwhile, enjoyed his life of crime until his vices caught up with him and he developed serious cancer, causing him to struggle with his own mortality for years, eventually being manipulated into training Barney with the promise of treatment, only to instead be beaten, left untreated, and finally dumped on Clint's doorstep so he could die. They were ''real'' sons-of-bitches in their lives, but they both suffered enough and died in such ways one can't help but pity them, and their deaths were still hard on Clint despite what they did.
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** Clint. Oh, boy. Abused as a child, constantly screwed over by the people he cared about, tried to become a hero and was branded a criminal. He was later killed by the Scarlet Witch, but resurrected in House of M and had his memories restored, which meant that he knew that he had died, and stayed alive even after Wanda changed almost everything back. Mockingbird, who had been killed, was found alive during Secret Invasion, but it turned out that she was a skrull. The real Mockingbird also turned out to be alive, but they still ended up getting divorced. Cemented in the Hawkeye and Mockingbird [[ScrewedByTheNetwork short lived]] ongoing, where a subplot is that she's in a dark place right now, and there's nothing he can do to get her out of it and it's killing him that he can't help her, all the while being around her is pulling him into a bad place too.
** Mockingbird counts too, due to the aforementioned death/Skrull abduction and the related angst, her being raped by Phantom Rider, the dark places she went during the series, and the fact her mom gets nearly killed because of her and her brother hates her guts for faking her death.
** IronWoobie: Both of them. It's why they work together.
** Mockingbird counts too, due to the aforementioned death/Skrull abduction and the related angst, her being raped by Phantom Rider, the dark places she went during the series, and the fact her mom gets nearly killed because of her and her brother hates her guts for faking her death.
** IronWoobie: Both of them. It's why they work together.
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** Clint. Oh, boy. Abused as a child, constantly mistreated and screwed over by the people he cared about, tried about up until adulthood, and as a result of becoming a superhero at 20, he's never gained life skills outside of heroics and so has little to no life outside of it. His romantic life is a long list of heartbreaks from short-lived messy relationships, with him losing the love of his life because of his own stubbornness, and being unable to make things work when they got back together. The traumas he's experienced as a hero (which include losing friends, lovers, children he'd came to see as his own, and even his own death once or twice) have left him suffering quietly from serious depression, which he suffers alone because he's too stubborn to seek help when he needs it.
** Mockingbird. Was a nerdy scientist before being recruited to become ahero and was branded a criminal. He was later killed by the Scarlet Witch, but resurrected in House of M and had his memories restored, which meant super-spy, something that he knew that he had died, and stayed alive even after Wanda changed almost everything back. Mockingbird, who had been killed, was found alive during Secret Invasion, but it turned out that she was a skrull. The real Mockingbird also turned out lead to be alive, but they still ended up getting divorced. Cemented in the Hawkeye and Mockingbird [[ScrewedByTheNetwork short lived]] ongoing, where a subplot is that she's in a dark place right now, and there's nothing he can do to get her out of it and it's killing him that he can't help her, all the while being around her is pulling him into a bad place too.
** Mockingbird counts too, due to the aforementioned death/Skrull abduction and the related angst,her being taken hostage, framed as a rogue agent and hunted like a dog, shot and nearly killed, before going solo and becoming a superhero. Her marriage to Hawkeye broke down after she was raped by another superhero, Phantom Rider, who has haunted her ever since she killed him, meanwhile she's also been abducted by skrulls, shot and nearly killed, suffer MindRape after SHIELD abandoned her in an AIM base, had multiple attempts at rebuilding her life implode, all the dark places while also having her skills as a scientist and a hero downplayed and ignored by others who only see her as a pretty figure.
** Kate. She's [[RetCon either]] a [[RapeAsBackstory survivor of rape]] at 14 who trained herself to be a hero after, or someone who was abducted by supervillains at a much younger age who then took up training. After becoming a Young Avenger, shewent during saw the series, and the fact team implode, then after Clint drove her mom gets away, her attempt to be a solo "Hero for Hire" lead to her being financially cut off by her father, repeatedly being beaten up by Life Model Decoys, nearly killed because several times by an extremely petty supervillain way out of her league, and discovered her brother hates father was a supervillain. She later had her guts for faking mother's death drug back up, discovering later that her death.
** IronWoobie: Both of them. It's why they work together.mom was alive but had become a vampire.
** Mockingbird. Was a nerdy scientist before being recruited to become a
** Mockingbird counts too, due to the aforementioned death/Skrull abduction and the related angst,
** Kate. She's [[RetCon either]] a [[RapeAsBackstory survivor of rape]] at 14 who trained herself to be a hero after, or someone who was abducted by supervillains at a much younger age who then took up training. After becoming a Young Avenger, she
** IronWoobie: Both of them. It's why they work together.
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** Back in the West Coast Avengers days, there was a notable push-pull going on between writers of that book and writers of ''Solo Avengers'' and anything else including Clint, namely regarding how Clint was handling Bobbi killing Phantom Rider. WCA's writers insisted on Clint being as obtuse about it as possible to the point of HolierThanThou self-righteousness, and him and Bobbi were pretty clearly on the verge of divorce. Elsewhere, writers were depicting Clint as being much more understanding, empathetic, and subsequently him and Bobbi on the verge of reconciliation, essentially writing them how they were before the Phantom Rider story.
** During the years Brian Michael Bendis spent as Marvel's top writer, Clint was a notable CreatorsPest, and this is pretty observable in how he's written (most prominently, having Clint TookALevelInJerkass, portraying him as less competent and ignoring Clint's strict ThouShaltNotKill beliefs). As a result, there's been a noticeable trend of writers having to push back or explain how/why Clint had acted the way he did, and re-align his character. The first time was by Jim [=McCann=], who had Clint go through extensive CharacterDevelopment to explain ''why'' he'd been acting so hostile and trigger happy, ultimately settling on the idea Clint was aware of the fact [[TheseHandsHaveKilled he was now capable of killing and being scared of it]]. His work also lead to Clint abandoning the Ronin identity and becoming Hawkeye again, though even before that he made sure to include a scene where Bobbi presents Clint with a bow and set of arrows (elsewhere, other writers were also finding excuses for "Ronin" to pick up a bow during big battles).
*** Later, David Walker, Nick Spencer, and several others tried to resolve the fallout of Bendis having Clint murder Bruce Banner in ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'', with Clint himself being shown as incredibly torn up by the fact he did this. That Bendis tried to portray Clint [[RippedFromTheHeadlines as akin to a police officer murdering an unarmed black man]], writers subsequently made sure to write Clint as being socially aware and left-of-centre, as he was previously.
** Matt Fraction's run has a significant BrokenBase in how it handled Clint in general, but one notable trait is the reintroduction of Clint's deafness, something that was "cured" back in ''Heroes Reborn''. Though he now has a new origin for it, the main result is Clint is now a hearing aid-user again.
** After Jeff Lemire's ''All-New Hawkeye'' run, which infamously canonised the MemeticLoser characterisation for Clint and MemeticBadass characterisation for Kate (while also having her TookALevelInJerkass), subsequent writers worked to portray Clint as being much more stable and competent, more akin to how he was pre-Fraction while still retaining the DentedIron aspect Fraction introduced, and also making Kate kinder and more quirky once again. Gerry Duggan and Kelly Thompson especially worked to ensure the two were much more balanced and cohesive.
** Back in the West Coast Avengers days, there was a notable push-pull going on between writers of that book and writers of ''Solo Avengers'' and anything else including Clint, namely regarding how Clint was handling Bobbi killing Phantom Rider. WCA's writers insisted on Clint being as obtuse about it as possible to the point of HolierThanThou self-righteousness, and him and Bobbi were pretty clearly on the verge of divorce. Elsewhere, writers were depicting Clint as being much more understanding, empathetic, and subsequently him and Bobbi on the verge of reconciliation, essentially writing them how they were before the Phantom Rider story.
** During the years Brian Michael Bendis spent as Marvel's top writer, Clint was a notable CreatorsPest, and this is pretty observable in how he's written (most prominently, having Clint TookALevelInJerkass, portraying him as less competent and ignoring Clint's strict ThouShaltNotKill beliefs). As a result, there's been a noticeable trend of writers having to push back or explain how/why Clint had acted the way he did, and re-align his character. The first time was by Jim [=McCann=], who had Clint go through extensive CharacterDevelopment to explain ''why'' he'd been acting so hostile and trigger happy, ultimately settling on the idea Clint was aware of the fact [[TheseHandsHaveKilled he was now capable of killing and being scared of it]]. His work also lead to Clint abandoning the Ronin identity and becoming Hawkeye again, though even before that he made sure to include a scene where Bobbi presents Clint with a bow and set of arrows (elsewhere, other writers were also finding excuses for "Ronin" to pick up a bow during big battles).
*** Later, David Walker, Nick Spencer, and several others tried to resolve the fallout of Bendis having Clint murder Bruce Banner in ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'', with Clint himself being shown as incredibly torn up by the fact he did this. That Bendis tried to portray Clint [[RippedFromTheHeadlines as akin to a police officer murdering an unarmed black man]], writers subsequently made sure to write Clint as being socially aware and left-of-centre, as he was previously.
** Matt Fraction's run has a significant BrokenBase in how it handled Clint in general, but one notable trait is the reintroduction of Clint's deafness, something that was "cured" back in ''Heroes Reborn''. Though he now has a new origin for it, the main result is Clint is now a hearing aid-user again.
** After Jeff Lemire's ''All-New Hawkeye'' run, which infamously canonised the MemeticLoser characterisation for Clint and MemeticBadass characterisation for Kate (while also having her TookALevelInJerkass), subsequent writers worked to portray Clint as being much more stable and competent, more akin to how he was pre-Fraction while still retaining the DentedIron aspect Fraction introduced, and also making Kate kinder and more quirky once again. Gerry Duggan and Kelly Thompson especially worked to ensure the two were much more balanced and cohesive.
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** It's not uncommon for Hawkeye/Mockingbird shippers to ignore the Phantom Rider incident, if not their divorce entirely, due to Clint being such a jerk during the entirety of it, and/or because they're uncomfortable with RapeAsDrama. Even if some acknowledge it, they usually try to emphasise Clint realising how much of a jerk he was. Inversely, pretty much every fan chooses to ignore Chelsea Cain's attempt at retconning it out, as rather then just erase the event from history she chose to keep it but make the relationship consensual, with Bobbi merely "letting" Clint think it was rape; as this causes extensive UnintentionallyUnsympathetic issues by trivialising rape, even fans who enjoyed/defended the rest of the run or didn't like the original event choose to ignore this.
