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* DracoInLeatherPants: While not ''fanfiction'' per se, many derivative works reimagine the Tsalal as being otherwise normal people who were unfairly slandered by xenophobic propaganda. {{Administrivia/Tropes Are Not Bad}} in this case, as the timeline is heavily criticised for being too over-the-top in its depiction of apparently normal Tsalal atrocities, and this concept can definitely serve as catharsis for horrified readers; especially for those who have found the depiction of a non-white people whose culture apparently revolves around grotesque acts of violence to be in extremely poor taste.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: While not ''fanfiction'' per se, many some derivative works works, such as [[https://www.deviantart.com/j-roge1/art/Sailpunk-850734445 this map by J-Roge1]], reimagine the Tsalal as being otherwise normal people who were unfairly slandered by xenophobic propaganda. {{Administrivia/Tropes Are Not Bad}} in this case, as the timeline is heavily criticised for being too over-the-top in its depiction of apparently normal Tsalal atrocities, and this concept can definitely serve as catharsis for horrified readers; especially for those who have found the depiction of a non-white people whose culture apparently revolves around grotesque acts of violence to be in extremely poor taste.
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* CondemnedByHistory: During its heyday in the early 2010s, ''Green Antarctica'' was viewed with something resembling an admiration born of horror. However, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers nowadays consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones of its depiction of a darked-skinned people who commit brutal and horrifying acts with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal, if not valuable cultural institutions of their society.
--> '''Constant Dreamer:''' ''Green Antarctica's natives were explicitly inspired by Edgar Allan Poe's The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket, in which the protagonist at one point sails towards the South Pole (Antartica being terra incognita at the time of writing) and finds an island called Tsalal populated by natives with pitch-black skin who are unfamiliar with the color white and are, of course, totally evil. Green Antarctica then goes on to lazily copy large swathes of Lovecraft's works as if there wasn't enough racism already.''
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* CondemnedByHistory: During its heyday in the early 2010s, ''Green Antarctica'' was viewed with something resembling an admiration born of horror. However, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers as of the writing of this entry in 2022 consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones of its depiction of a darked-skinned people who commit brutal and horrifying acts with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal, if not valuable cultural institutions of their society.

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* CondemnedByHistory: During its heyday in the early 2010s, ''Green Antarctica'' was viewed with something resembling an admiration born of horror. However, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers as of the writing of this entry in 2022 nowadays consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones of its depiction of a darked-skinned people who commit brutal and horrifying acts with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal, if not valuable cultural institutions of their society.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Soldiering through ''Green Antarctica'' requires a strong stomach and a lack of sensitivity to the extreme gruesomeness which is commonplace in the setting; qualities that many readers, who were first drawn to the work by its speculative evolution and in-depth cultural history, inevitably lack.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Soldiering through ''Green Antarctica'' requires a strong stomach and a lack of sensitivity to the extreme gruesomeness which is commonplace in the setting; qualities that many readers, who were first drawn to the work by its speculative evolution and in-depth cultural history, inevitably lack.lack.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The general consensus nowadays is that the author is too interested in shock for shock's sake to take full advantage of what's otherwise a genuinely interesting premise.
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* CondemnedByHistory: During its heyday in the early 2010s, ''Green Antarctica'' was viewed with something resembling an admiration born of horror. However, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers today consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones of its depiction of a darked-skinned people who commit brutal and horrifying acts with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal, if not valuable cultural institutions of their society.

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* CondemnedByHistory: During its heyday in the early 2010s, ''Green Antarctica'' was viewed with something resembling an admiration born of horror. However, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers today as of the writing of this entry in 2022 consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones of its depiction of a darked-skinned people who commit brutal and horrifying acts with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal, if not valuable cultural institutions of their society.

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* CondemnedByHistory: While being quite notorious in its heyday in the early 2010s, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones of its depiction of a darked-skinned people who commit brutal and horrifying acts with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal, if not valuable cultural institutions of their society.

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* CondemnedByHistory: While being quite notorious in During its heyday in the early 2010s, ''Green Antarctica'' was viewed with something resembling an admiration born of horror. However, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers today consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones of its depiction of a darked-skinned people who commit brutal and horrifying acts with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal, if not valuable cultural institutions of their society.society.
--> '''Constant Dreamer:''' ''Green Antarctica's natives were explicitly inspired by Edgar Allan Poe's The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket, in which the protagonist at one point sails towards the South Pole (Antartica being terra incognita at the time of writing) and finds an island called Tsalal populated by natives with pitch-black skin who are unfamiliar with the color white and are, of course, totally evil. Green Antarctica then goes on to lazily copy large swathes of Lovecraft's works as if there wasn't enough racism already.''



* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Soldiering through ''Green Antarctica'' requires a strong stomach and a lack of sensitivity to the extreme gruesomeness which is commonplace in the setting; qualities that many readers, who were first drawn to the work by its speculative evolution and in-depth cultural history, inevitably lack.
--> '''Constant Dreamer:''' ''Green Antarctica's natives were explicitly inspired by Edgar Allan Poe's The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket, in which the protagonist at one point sails towards the South Pole (Antartica being terra incognita at the time of writing) and finds an island called Tsalal populated by natives with pitch-black skin who are unfamiliar with the color white and are, of course, totally evil. Green Antarctica then goes on to lazily copy large swathes of Lovecraft's works as if there wasn't enough racism already.''

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Soldiering through ''Green Antarctica'' requires a strong stomach and a lack of sensitivity to the extreme gruesomeness which is commonplace in the setting; qualities that many readers, who were first drawn to the work by its speculative evolution and in-depth cultural history, inevitably lack.
--> '''Constant Dreamer:''' ''Green Antarctica's natives were explicitly inspired by Edgar Allan Poe's The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket, in which the protagonist at one point sails towards the South Pole (Antartica being terra incognita at the time of writing) and finds an island called Tsalal populated by natives with pitch-black skin who are unfamiliar with the color white and are, of course, totally evil. Green Antarctica then goes on to lazily copy large swathes of Lovecraft's works as if there wasn't enough racism already.''
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* CondemnedByHistory: While being quite notorious in its heyday in the early 2010s, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones of its depiction of a darked-skinned people who commit brutal and horrifying acts with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal, if not valuable cultural institutions of their society. (See UnfortunateImplications below)

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* CondemnedByHistory: While being quite notorious in its heyday in the early 2010s, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones of its depiction of a darked-skinned people who commit brutal and horrifying acts with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal, if not valuable cultural institutions of their society. (See UnfortunateImplications below)
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* UnfortunateImplications: ''Green Antarctica'' draws on many works of 19th and early 20th century European and American literature such as those by {{Creator/Edgar Allan Poe}} and {{Creator/HP Lovecraft}}. [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/worst-cases-of-unfortunate-implications.831503/page-5?post=65591108#post-65591108 Subsequently,]] [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/race-in-sf-f.29004/?post=6060699#post-6060699 some]] [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/what-of-the-green-antarctica-timeline-was-real-or-the-land-of-the-h-p-lovecraft-humans-attacks.873229/?post=69431431#post-69431431 readers]] have discussed their belief that the Tsalal, a dark skinned race whose culture revolves around committing grotesque atrocities, unintentionally draws on racial and cultural stereotypes of non-white indigenous peoples as violent "savages" [[ValuesDissonance that were widely believed by white Europeans and Americans, including said authors who regularly incorporated them into their works, and were used to justify these natives' colonisation and dispossession]]. This was another reason why it fell out of favour by the end of the 2010s, especially as the second half of the decade saw an increase in sensitivity to racial issues in fiction.
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* CondemnedByHistory: While being quite notorious in its heyday in the early 2010s, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones of its depiction of a darked-skinned people who commit brutal atrocities with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal in their society. (See UnfortunateImplications below)

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* CondemnedByHistory: While being quite notorious in its heyday in the early 2010s, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones of its depiction of a darked-skinned people who commit brutal atrocities and horrifying acts with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal in normal, if not valuable cultural institutions of their society. (See UnfortunateImplications below)



* DracoInLeatherPants: While not ''fanfiction'' per se, many derivative works reimagine the Tsalal as being otherwise normal people who were unfairly slandered by xenophobic propaganda. {{Administrivia/Tropes Are Not Bad}} in this case, as the timeline is heavily criticised for being too over-the-top in its depiction of apparently normal Tsalal atrocities, and this concept can definitely serve as catharsis for horrified readers; especially for those who have questioned the depiction of a non-white people whose culture apparently revolves around grotesque acts of violence.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: While not ''fanfiction'' per se, many derivative works reimagine the Tsalal as being otherwise normal people who were unfairly slandered by xenophobic propaganda. {{Administrivia/Tropes Are Not Bad}} in this case, as the timeline is heavily criticised for being too over-the-top in its depiction of apparently normal Tsalal atrocities, and this concept can definitely serve as catharsis for horrified readers; especially for those who have questioned found the depiction of a non-white people whose culture apparently revolves around grotesque acts of violence.violence to be in extremely poor taste.
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* CondemnedByHistory: While being quite notorious in its heyday in the early 2010s, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones in writing about a darked-skinned people whose culture apparently entails regularly committing brutal atrocities to the point that they are considered normal. (See UnfortunateImplications below)

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* CondemnedByHistory: While being quite notorious in its heyday in the early 2010s, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the racial undertones in writing about of its depiction of a darked-skinned people whose culture apparently entails regularly committing who commit brutal atrocities with such regularity to the point that they are considered normal.normal in their society. (See UnfortunateImplications below)



* UnfortunateImplications: ''Green Antarctica'' draws on many works of late 19th and early 20th century European and American literature such as those by {{Creator/Edgar Allan Poe}} and {{Creator/HP Lovecraft}}. [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/worst-cases-of-unfortunate-implications.831503/page-5?post=65591108#post-65591108 Subsequently,]] [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/race-in-sf-f.29004/?post=6060699#post-6060699 some]] [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/what-of-the-green-antarctica-timeline-was-real-or-the-land-of-the-h-p-lovecraft-humans-attacks.873229/?post=69431431#post-69431431 readers]] have discussed their belief that the Tsalal, a dark skinned race whose culture revolves around committing grotesque atrocities, unintentionally draws on racial and cultural stereotypes of non-white indigenous peoples [[ValuesDissonance that were widely believed by white Europeans and Americans, including said authors, when these works were first published]]. This was another reason why it fell out of favour by the end of the 2010s, especially as the second half of the decade saw an increase in sensitivity to racial issues in fiction.

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* UnfortunateImplications: ''Green Antarctica'' draws on many works of late 19th and early 20th century European and American literature such as those by {{Creator/Edgar Allan Poe}} and {{Creator/HP Lovecraft}}. [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/worst-cases-of-unfortunate-implications.831503/page-5?post=65591108#post-65591108 Subsequently,]] [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/race-in-sf-f.29004/?post=6060699#post-6060699 some]] [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/what-of-the-green-antarctica-timeline-was-real-or-the-land-of-the-h-p-lovecraft-humans-attacks.873229/?post=69431431#post-69431431 readers]] have discussed their belief that the Tsalal, a dark skinned race whose culture revolves around committing grotesque atrocities, unintentionally draws on racial and cultural stereotypes of non-white indigenous peoples as violent "savages" [[ValuesDissonance that were widely believed by white Europeans and Americans, including said authors, when authors who regularly incorporated them into their works, and were used to justify these works were first published]].natives' colonisation and dispossession]]. This was another reason why it fell out of favour by the end of the 2010s, especially as the second half of the decade saw an increase in sensitivity to racial issues in fiction.
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* CondemnedByHistory: While being quite notorious in its heyday in the early 2010s, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the logic behind writing a story about darked-skinned people whose culture apparently entails regularly committing brutal atrocities to the point that they are considered normal. (See UnfortunateImplications below)

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* CondemnedByHistory: While being quite notorious in its heyday in the early 2010s, the project became heavily criticised by the decade's end. Many readers consider it to be pointlessly edgy in its attempts to {{Squick}} the reader; often to the extent of becoming either [[NightmareRetardent unintentional comedy]] or [[TooBleakStoppedCaring being just too disgusting for them to really engage in]], depending on who you ask. Finally, more than a few readers have questioned the logic behind racial undertones in writing a story about a darked-skinned people whose culture apparently entails regularly committing brutal atrocities to the point that they are considered normal. (See UnfortunateImplications below)

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