History YMMV / FarCry4

* FranchiseOriginalSin: Among the many problems players had with the endings of ''VideoGame/FarCry5'', one of them was with its secret ending, where if you [[spoiler:[[WinsByDoingAbsolutelyNothing stand around for about five minutes doing nothing]], the game plays a secret ending where your group decides it's a bad idea to arrest Joseph while surrounded by his congregation and leave quietly.]] ''Far Cry 4'' somewhat famously has a similar ending that can be achieved before any real gameplay: [[spoiler:wait around for about 13 minutes when Pagan leaves you alone at dinner and he will actually come back as he said he would.]] ''Far Cry 4''[='=]s secret ending was more well-received for a variety of reasons: for one, [[spoiler:it's an ''actual'' ending - waiting around for Pagan to come back results in him actually explaining everything Ajay's mother [[PoorCommunicationKills refused to for no reason]], including what would have been the big twist at the end of the regular story and accurate predictions of how the game plays out normally, and Ajay actually accomplishes his mission without any bloodshed. Conversely, refusing to arrest Joseph at the start of ''5'' simply has your group leave, and that's it - not even a hint that they recognized they were in over their heads and [[SummonBiggerFish deferred the problem to the National Guard]] or something, they apparently just [[BystanderSyndrome leave Hope County to its fate]]. Also, ''4''[='=]s secret ending acknowledges that it's an EasterEgg, with Pagan's last words during it [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall all but directly telling you]] that, now that you've seen it, you're free to go back and play the game normally; ''5'', meanwhile, wants to be ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine'' and suggests that taking this secret not-ending and never actually playing the game you paid money for is the "correct" course of action.]]

* FranchiseOriginalSin: Among the many problems players had with the endings of ''VideoGame/FarCry5'', one of them was with its secret ending, where if you [[spoiler:[[WinsByDoingAbsolutelyNothing stand around for about five minutes doing nothing]], the game plays a secret ending where your group decides it's a bad idea to arrest Joseph while surrounded by his congregation and leave quietly.]] ''Far Cry 4'' somewhat famously has a similar ending that can be achieved before any real gameplay: [[spoiler:wait around for about 13 minutes when Pagan leaves you alone at dinner and he will actually come back as he said he would.]] ''Far Cry 4''[='=]s secret ending was more well-received for a variety of reasons: for one, [[spoiler:it's an ''actual'' ending - waiting around for Pagan to come back results in him actually explaining everything Ajay's mother [[PoorCommunicationKills refused to for no reason]], including predictions of exactly how the game plays out normally and the big twist that comes at the end of the regular story, and Ajay actually accomplishes his mission without any bloodshed. Conversely, refusing to arrest Joseph at the start of ''5'' simply has your group leave, and that's it - not even a hint that they recognized they were in over their heads and [[SummonBiggerFish deferred the problem to the National Guard]] or something, they apparently just [[BystanderSyndrome leave Hope County to its fate]]. Also, ''4''[='=]s secret ending acknowledges that it's an EasterEgg, with Pagan's last words during it [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall all but directly telling you]] that, now that you've seen it, you're free to go back and play the game normally; ''5'', meanwhile, wants to be ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine'' and suggests that taking this secret not-ending and never actually playing the game you paid money for is the "correct" course of action.]]

* FranchiseOriginalSin: Among the many problems players had with the endings of ''VideoGame/FarCry5'', one of them was with its secret ending, where if you [[spoiler:[[WinsByDoingAbsolutelyNothing stand around for about five minutes doing nothing]], the game plays a secret ending where your group decides it's a bad idea to arrest Joseph after all and leave quietly.]] ''Far Cry 4'' somewhat famously has a similar ending that can be achieved before any real gameplay: [[spoiler:wait around for about 13 minutes when Pagan leaves you alone at dinner and he will actually come back as he said he would.]] ''Far Cry 4''[='=]s secret ending was more well-received for a variety of reasons: for one, [[spoiler:it's an ''actual'' ending - waiting around for Pagan to come back results in him actually explaining everything Ajay's mother [[PoorCommunicationKills refused to for no reason]], including predictions of exactly how the game plays out normally, and Ajay accomplishes his mission without any bloodshed. Conversely, refusing to arrest Joseph at the start of ''5'' simply has your group leave, and that's it - not even a hint that they recognized they were in over their heads and deferred the problem to [[SummonBiggerFish the National Guard]] or something, they apparently just [[BystanderSyndrome leave Hope County to its fate]]. Also, ''4''[='=]s secret ending acknowledges that it is a secret, with Pagan's last words during it [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall all but directly telling you]] that you're free to go back and play the game normally now that you've seen the EasterEgg; ''5'', meanwhile, wants to be ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine'' and suggests that taking this secret not-ending and never actually playing the game you paid money for is the "correct" course of action.]]

* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Pagan Min]] is the charismatic [[EvilOverlord dictator]] of Kyrat, who started off as the son of a mid-level crime boss. Inheriting his late father's resources and taking the name "Pagan Min", his ambitions led him to Kyrat, helping the Royalists drive out the Nationalists before killing the Royalists' heir and taking Kyrat for himself. Seducing the Golden Path's spy, Ishwari, the two fell in love and sired a daughter, Lakshmana, resulting in Golden Path leader, Mohan Ghale, killing Lakshmana, Ishwari then killing Mohan in retribution. When Ishwari's son, [[PlayerCharacter Ajay Ghale]], arrives in Kyrat to place her ashes next to Lakshmana, Pagan Min warmly welcomes Ajay before exposing Darpan as a Golden Path spy. He also has his body double travel throughout Kyrat, to distract the Golden Path into killing him, while he would later appear live on television to discredit them and expose the [[TheStarscream traitorous]] Yuma Lau's whereabouts so they can kill her for him. When Ajay confronts Pagan Min, the latter offers him a choice; he can kill him or allow Pagan take his mother's ashes to Lakshmana. Should Ajay choose the latter, Pagan Min tells him about the Golden Path's atrocities and gives Ajay Kyrat before making his exit.

* {{Fanon}}: A great deal of fans considered the shortcut ending where you [[spoiler:waited like a normal person for 13 minutes, then Pagan returned and took you to your sister's altar to place your mother's ashes]] the ''true'' ending. This is because of a combination of SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments in this ending and the ridiculous amount of TooBleakStoppedCaring in other endings.

* TooBleakStoppedCaring: As the plot progresses, it becomes increasingly clear that there is no best, or even just plain good, solution for Kyrat. The Golden Path's leaders are either pragmatic to a dangerous level or scarily traditionalist with all that implies, and Ajay himself may (at the player's discretion) be guided by a good heart, but he has no experience in politics or ruling a country. Any sense of grandeur or high conflict for the story is lost as it turns into a power struggle between two equally bad extremes. [[spoiler:Killing both of the Golden Path's leaders during the course of the game and getting handed Kyrat by Pagan Min is what could be seen as the best option, but we've no indication that Ajay isn't going down as dark a path as Pagan did, especially as he had to kill his way to the top to get here.]] There's no sense of tension or interesting conflict because no one is likeable, except Bhadra, maybe Ajay [[spoiler:and ironically Pagan Min once his past gets explained]], which removes any meaning from the endings.