History YMMV / Ever17

* GeniusBonus: Tsugumi's associated ride is the Jellyfish Gondola. [[spoiler:There's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_dohrnii a certain species of jellyfish]] that is biologically immortal due to the ability to continually transition between its larval and adult forms, effectively giving it eternal youth. This is similar to Tsugumi's own circumstances as TheAgeless.]] Uchikoshi has come out and said that this was a case of AccidentallyCorrectWriting.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: This game is more popular in foreign markets than it is in Japan, since it's one of the few commercial VisualNovel releases in their countries.
** To be more specific, while it's still very popular in Japan, it's just one out of many different Visual Novels, and so has pretty much found its own niche. In other countries, where very few Visual Novels are translated, it's considered a classic and one of the greatest Visual Novels of all time.
** Has lessened over the years, as the West has received more Visual Novels in English combined with the fact that it's an older game now with a minimal initial English print and no digital rerelease, with newer fans being attracted to these more recent games.

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: Nearly twenty years after release, Uchikoshi has confessed that the reason 17 is the arc number is because his birthday is on the 17th. Even Nakazawa was surprised to learn this.

* OnceOriginalNowOverdone: At the time of its release, the game was one of the first plot twist heavy visual novels that used the conventions of the medium to its advantage to stand out amongst visual novels, which at-the-time were known almost entirely for romance titles, earning much praise from audiences. However, nowadays, where plot and twist-heavy visual novels are much more commonplace, and with many of its twists and story elements being replicated in many other visual novels, the game is considered by modern audiences to be a dull, slow-paced visual novel with twists that are far less innovative nowadays.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: While not exactly a Scrappy, [[spoiler:Kaburaki]] was fairly unremarkable in the original game. The remake fixes this up by giving [[spoiler:him]] a lot more CharacterDevelopment and personality, an actual backstory, and a much closer relationship with [[spoiler:Takeshi.]]

** In the true ending, [[spoiler:Coco]] simultaneously declares [[spoiler:''you, the player'']] as both her adoptive older brother ''and'' [[IncestSubtext her boyfriend]]. ''Nope nope nope.''
* TearJerker: [[TearJerker/Ever17 Has it's own page]]. This game isn't an {{Utsuge}} for nothing.
* TheyChangedItSoItSucks: The X360 remake divided fans with the way it changed certain elements of the story, using a completely new scenario writer that wasn't involved in any of the other Infinity series projects nor in the Science Adventure series. Lack of fan support, along with the bankrupcy of Cyberfront, one of the two companies involved in its development, killed any chances of the game getting ported to any more platforms.

** Takeshi making a backup of Sora's data with a compact disc; in 2017, the year the first part of the game takes place, he likely would have used a flash drive (depending on how large her data file was) or uploaded her data to a cloud server.[[note]]In the game, he uploads her to a terabyte disc; the largest flash drives available in 2002 had less than a gigabyte of storage capacity.[[/note]]

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: At the time of its release, the game was one of the first plot twist heavy visual novels that used the conventions of the medium to its advantage to stand out amongst visual novels, which at-the-time were known almost entirely for romance titles, earning much praise from audiences. However, nowadays, where plot and twist-heavy visual novels are much more commonplace, and with many of its twists and story elements being replicated in many other visual novels, the game is considered by modern audiences to be a dull, slow-paced visual novel with twists that are far less innovative nowadays.
** In addition to that, the translation is fairly lacking and has numerous issues from bringing the Japanese terms to more well-known English ones, such as changing meters to feet (thus losing the 17 meters ArcNumber aspect) and Urashima Taro to Rip van Winkle. This aged terribly because nowadays, VN localisations tend to keep the more Japanese aspects and simply provide additional text if it's meaningful and less commonly known. It also has numerous text mistakes in it, which is much less acceptable nowadays. While both of these were perfectly fine back in the day due to the absence of [=VNs=] and Americanisation being more common back then (even if it was dying off by the time it was translated), neither of these are acceptable now, with the latter standing out as particularly unacceptable.
*** This particular element was fixed in the Himmel fan patch released in 2018, which apart from making the game work better in modern [=PCs =]also fixes the text mistakes and the Americanised elements (such as the infamous translation from tuna sandwiches to chicken sandwiches).

* {{Wangst}} / {{Narm}}: Some of the intended TearJerker moments may be a bit over-the-top or cliche for some. [[RoboShip Sora's route]], [[{{Tsundere}} Tsu]][[StrawNihilist gumi]], and [[spoiler:You'haru]] angsting about how cloning themselves was an [[ScaleOfScientificSins unforgivable sin]] are all particularly bad offenders.
** None of those compare to how they portray HollywoodHacking. [[spoiler: It involves duplicates of Sora battling each other with one Sora trying to buy time for the protagonists]].
** [[spoiler:Hokuto somehow projecting himself into the past, resurrecting Takeshi through ThePowerOfLove, and then gushing over him and repeatedly calling him "dad" throughout the entire rest of the ending]] can easily fall under {{Narm}} or NarmCharm depending on the player.

* SpiritualSuccessor: ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'' is usually seen as one, and [[TimeTravel for a good reason]] (both games also shared the same composer, and S;G's soundtracks are filled with [[SuspiciouslySimilarSong suspiciously similar sounds]]). The fact that one of E17's writers (Kotarou Uchikoshi) are also involved in the GaidenGame probably helps. And then there's the fact that the remake was developed by the same developer themselves (5pb./MAGES.)
** ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'' is this moreso as it was written by Uchikoshi and shared similar themes.

* JerkassWoobie: Tsugumi, once you know her full story. [[spoiler:As a kid she was infected with a rare virus and spent a significant part of her childhood being a lab rat, with Chami as pretty much her only friend. After she got traped in [=LeMU=] the first time, she fell in love only to lose said love after just a few days. She then spent years on the run from Leibnich Pharmaceutical. When she gave birth to the kids she found happiness for a while, but then was forced by circumstances to give them up. When she finally meets them again she's tricked into reliving the same incident that made her lose Takeshi in the first place with some random guy pretending to BE Takeshi and everyone else acting like nothing ever happened.]] She may be a bitch but her life certainly wasn't easy.

** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkvQte7JWpw&fmt=18 Karma]] a song that plays in the most [[TearJerker/Ever17 emotional parts of the VN]] and the title screen really complements these moments a lot.
** [[http://tindeck.com/listen/yuow Drittes Auge Nehmen]][[note]]Very roughly, "Take the Third Eye"[[/note]] does an excellent job of simultaneously conveying the tone of both [[MindScrew mindblowing revelations]] and unhinged, unsettling creepiness.
** [[http://tindeck.com/listen/ljyj Tief Blau.]] That is all.

* HarsherInHindsight: Many interactions between, Tsugumi, Sara and Kid, especially the armument in the infirmary are put in much harsher light when you know that [[spoiler: Tsugumi is their mother]].
* HilariousInHindsight: When everyone is down after learning the time limit until the implosion in Kid's Routes, You tries to cheer everyone up, saying [[VisualNovel/{{Remember11}} "It's not like we're on a snowy mountain in the winter!"]]

* HoYay: You and Sara have a pretty close relationship. A little too close at times. Most evident in Kid/Coco's route, when refusing to smile or laugh in front of You (in response to getting over his amnesia) results in her picking Mayo's nose in order to get Kid to lighten up. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Cue Sara sensually reacts to You's finger being inserted into her nostril, followed by the words "And at that moment, Senpai and I became one."]] Everyone laughs it off afterwards, though Sara isn't quite as amused as the others.

* JerkassWoobie: Tsugumi, once you know her full story. [[spoiler:As a kid she was infected with rare virus and spent significant part of her childhood being a lab rat, with Chami as her pretty much only friend. After she got traped in [=LeMU=] the first time she fell in love only to lose said love after just a few days. She then spent years on the run from Leibnich Pharmaceutical. When she gave birth to the kids she found happiness for a while, but then was forced by circumstances to give them up. When she finally meets them again she's tricked into reliving the same incident that made her lose Takeshi in the first place with some random guy pretending to BE Takeshi and everyone else acting like nothing ever happened.]] She may be a bitch but her life certainly wasn't easy.

** Takeshi's use of a [[DataPad PDA]], whose usage peaked during the early and mid-2000s before the advent of the iPhone and other smartphones.

** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkvQte7JWpw&fmt=18 Karma]] a song that plays in the most [[TearJerker emotional parts of the VN]] and the title screen really complements these moments a lot.

* SpiritualSuccessor: ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'' is usually seen as one, and [[TimeTravel for a good reason]] (both games also shared the same composer, and S;G's soundtracks are filled with [[SuspiciouslySimilarSong suspiciously similar sounds]]). The fact that one of E17's writers (Kotarou Uchikoshi) are also involved in the GaidenGame probably helps. And then there's the fact that the remake was developed by the same developer themselves (5pb./MAGES.
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*** This particular element was fixed in the Himmel fan patch released in 2018, which apart from making the game work better in modern PCs also fixes the text mistakes and the Americanised elements (such as the infamous translation from tuna sandwiches to chicken sandwiches).

** In the remake, this becomes a RunningGag: Sara and You frequently act out dialogue similar to cliché SchoolgirlLesbians at a boarding school (speaking to each other very tenderly, mind you) in order to tease Kid, and at the end, just when it looks like they're going to take it to the next level, they break off and laugh, usually leaving Kid blushing.

** "WHOOOO [[VisualNovel/SteinsGate BANANA BANAAAAANAAAAAAA]]"

* SpiritualSuccessor: ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'' is usually seen as one, and [[TimeTravel for a good reason]] (both games also shared the same composer, and S;G's soundtracks are filled with [[SuspiciouslySimilarSong suspiciously similar sounds]]). The fact that one of E17's writers (Kotarou Uchikoshi) are also involved in the GaidenGame probably helps. And then there's the fact that the remake was developed by the same developer themselves (5pb.)