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* QuestionableCasting: Cully is clearly intended to be young and rebellious, but is cast as a balding man apparently in his mid-forties.
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* WTHCastingAgency: Cully is clearly intended to be young and rebellious, but is cast as a balding man apparently in his mid-forties.
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* UnfortunateImplications: [[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/why-are-earth-people-so-parochial-the-dominators/ El Sandifer]] called out the story for being a cruel, mean-spirited attack on pacifism and the anti-war movement made during a time when protests were going on, even arguing that it supports people commiting PoliceBrutality.
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Word Of God is that the story isn't supposed to be pro-fascist, but more "the only way to defeat fascism is through armed violence."
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Rago repeatedly tells Toba to conserve their power by not just murdering everyone on the island like Toba wants - clearly, Rago is a canny leader and Toba's a paranoid psychopath, fair enough. Except Rago's plan absolutely would have worked if Toba had just murdered everyone on the island (which would have included the Doctor, Jamie, Zoe, and Cully, the only people on the island who want to fight back).
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Even Creator/PatrickTroughton doesn't bother putting in much of an effort in this atrocious, fascist nonsense, but Ronald Allen as Navigator Rago, in a giant foam collar and eyeliner, plays his part with such CreepyMonotone conviction he ''almost'' saves it.
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Even Creator/PatrickTroughton doesn't bother putting in much of an effort in this atrocious, fascist nonsense, but Ronald Allen as Navigator Rago, in a giant foam collar and eyeliner, plays his part with such CreepyMonotone conviction he ''almost'' saves it.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Rago repeatedly tells Toba to conserve their power by not just murdering everyone on the island like Toba wants - -- clearly, Rago is a canny leader and Toba's a paranoid psychopath, fair enough. Except Rago's plan absolutely would have worked if Toba had just murdered everyone on the island (which would have included the Doctor, Jamie, Zoe, and Cully, the only people on the island who want to fight back).
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Even Creator/PatrickTroughton doesn't bother putting in much of an effort in this atrocious,fascist militaristic nonsense, but Ronald Allen as Navigator Rago, in a giant foam collar and eyeliner, plays his part with such CreepyMonotone conviction he ''almost'' saves it.
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Even Creator/PatrickTroughton doesn't bother putting in much of an effort in this atrocious,
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* WTHCastingAgency: Cully is clearly intended to be young and rebellious, but is cast a a balding man apparently in his mid-forties.
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* WTHCastingAgency: Cully is clearly intended to be young and rebellious, but is cast a as a balding man apparently in his mid-forties.
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Natter.
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** The problem with that is that it wasn't the argument Toba was making at the time, and the fact that he would have been correct is only clear in hindsight. Given that Rago didn't know he was facing a Time Lord, his strategy was the appropriate one at the time.
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Misuse.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Pacificism, even if war-hungry ways have nearly wiped out the planet and left an island a whole island a nuclear wasteland full of corpses, is bad, because the first attacker will destroy you. Gun control is also bad. Arm the hippies.
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* UnfortunateImplications: [[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/why-are-earth-people-so-parochial-the-dominators/ El Sandifer]] called out the story for being cruel, mean-spirited attack on pacifism and the anti-war movement made during a time when protests were going on, even arguing that it supports people commiting PoliceBrutality.
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* UnfortunateImplications: [[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/why-are-earth-people-so-parochial-the-dominators/ El Sandifer]] called out the story for being a cruel, mean-spirited attack on pacifism and the anti-war movement made during a time when protests were going on, even arguing that it supports people commiting PoliceBrutality.
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* WTHCastingAgency: Cully is clearly intended to be young and rebellious, but is cast a a balding man apparently in his mid-forties.
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* UnfortunateImplications: [[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/why-are-earth-people-so-parochial-the-dominators/ El Sandifer]] called out the story for being cruel, mean-spirited attack on pacifism and the anti-war movement made during a time when protests were going on, even arguing that it supports people commiting PoliceBrutality.
* WTHCastingAgency: Cully is clearly intended to be young and rebellious, but is cast a a balding man apparently in hismid-forties.mid-forties.
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* LawfulEvil: The Dominators are the Type 4 variant. Their [[PlanetOfHats hat]] is subjugating and enslaving other races out of racism and the desire for their own glorification, but they will follow very strict and rather bureaucratic protocol in order to achieve this, such as obsessively studying natives' physical and intelligence levels before sending them to toil in the mines. Toba, who [[PsychoForHire doesn't care about protocol and just wants to blow everything up]], is considered by Rago to be a contemptible moral deviant.
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** The problem with that is that it wasn't the argument Toba was making at the time, and the fact that he would have been correct is only clear in hindsight. Given that Rago didn't know he was facing a Time Lord, his strategy was the appropriate one at the time.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Even Creator/PatrickTroughton doesn't bother putting in much of an effort in this atrocious, fascist nonsense, but Ronald Allen as Navigator Rago, in a giant foam collar and eyeliner, plays his part with such CreepyMonotone conviction he ''almost'' saves it.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Even Creator/PatrickTroughton doesn't bother putting in much of an effort in this atrocious, fascist nonsense, but Ronald Allen as Navigator Rago, in a giant foam collar and eyeliner, plays his part with such CreepyMonotone conviction he ''almost'' saves it.it.
* WTHCastingAgency: Cully is clearly intended to be young and rebellious, but is cast a a balding man apparently in his mid-forties.
* WTHCastingAgency: Cully is clearly intended to be young and rebellious, but is cast a a balding man apparently in his mid-forties.
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* LawfulEvil: The Dominators are the Type 4 variant. Their [[PlanetOfHats hat]] is subjugating and enslaving other races out of racism and the desire for their own glorification, but they will follow very strict and rather bureaucratic protocol in order to achieve this, such as obsessively studying natives' physical and intelligence levels before sending them to toil in the mines. Toba, who [[PsychoForHire doesn't care about protocol and just wants to blow everything up]], is considered by Rago to be a contemptible moral deviant.
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Not YMMV
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* BrokenAesop: Two. The WordOfGod aim was an allegory about how the hippie movement is bad because they would have got their arses kicked if they'd been in control when the Nazis had invaded. However, the oppressed, pacifistic Dulcians don't work as a hippie allegory, as they're characterised either as elderly politicians or as attractive young people who unthinkingly repeat the elders' lessons by rote until the Doctor and companions turn them against their racist, fascist oppressors, while the old Dulcians get slaughtered through trying to negotiate with Always ChaoticEvil aliens. The result is that it comes off as an allegory about how student activism is the future because the apathetic old politicians are only concerned with keeping superficial comfort and not with fixing big societal problems, and have engineered their own destruction. The second is in the B-plot: The villains have an internal conflict, between Rago, who favours caution and condemns meaningless destruction, and Toba, a Psycho for Hire who just loves destroying things. The problem is that everything Toba says is right - if he just had blown everyone up on sight (including the Doctor and Jamie) the Dominators would have succeeded in their plan. The result of this is that the story is simultaneously far more left-wing than intended and far more right-wing than intended.
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* BrokenAesop: Two. The WordOfGod aim was an allegory about how the hippie movement is bad because they would have got their arses kicked if they'd been in control when the Nazis had invaded. However, the oppressed, pacifistic Dulcians don't work as a hippie allegory, as they're characterised either as elderly politicians or as attractive young people who unthinkingly repeat the elders' lessons by rote until the Doctor and companions turn them against their racist, fascist oppressors, while the old Dulcians get slaughtered through trying to negotiate with Always ChaoticEvil aliens. The result is that it comes off as an allegory about how student activism is the future because the apathetic old politicians are only concerned with keeping superficial comfort and not with fixing big societal problems, and have engineered their own destruction. The second is in the B-plot: The villains have an internal conflict, between Rago, who favours caution and condemns meaningless destruction, and Toba, a Psycho for Hire who just loves destroying things. The problem is that everything Toba says is right - if he just had blown everyone up on sight (including the Doctor and Jamie) the Dominators would have succeeded in their plan. The result of this is that the story is simultaneously far more left-wing than intended and far more right-wing than intended.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Rago repeatedly tells Toba to conserve their power by not just murdering everyone on the island like Toba wants - clearly, Rago is a canny leader and Toba's a paranoid psychopath, fair enough. Except Rago's plan absolutely would have worked if Toba had just murdered everyone on the island (which would have included the Doctor, Jamie, Zoe, and Cully, the only people on the island who want to fight back).
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Rago repeatedly tells Toba to conserve their power by not just murdering everyone on the island like Toba wants - clearly, Rago is a canny leader and Toba's a paranoid psychopath, fair enough. Except Rago's plan absolutely would have worked if Toba had just murdered everyone on the island (which would have included the Doctor, Jamie, Zoe, and Cully, the only people on the island who want to fight back).back).
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Even Creator/PatrickTroughton doesn't bother putting in much of an effort in this atrocious, fascist nonsense, but Ronald Allen as Navigator Rago, in a giant foam collar and eyeliner, plays his part with such CreepyMonotone conviction he ''almost'' saves it.
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Even Creator/PatrickTroughton doesn't bother putting in much of an effort in this atrocious, fascist nonsense, but Ronald Allen as Navigator Rago, in a giant foam collar and eyeliner, plays his part with such CreepyMonotone conviction he ''almost'' saves it.
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* InferredHolocaust: The Dominators have sent for their fleet. The Doctor only foiled their current plan.
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* InferredHolocaust: The Dominators have sent for their fleet. The Doctor only foiled their current plan.plan.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Rago repeatedly tells Toba to conserve their power by not just murdering everyone on the island like Toba wants - clearly, Rago is a canny leader and Toba's a paranoid psychopath, fair enough. Except Rago's plan absolutely would have worked if Toba had just murdered everyone on the island (which would have included the Doctor, Jamie, Zoe, and Cully, the only people on the island who want to fight back).
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Rago repeatedly tells Toba to conserve their power by not just murdering everyone on the island like Toba wants - clearly, Rago is a canny leader and Toba's a paranoid psychopath, fair enough. Except Rago's plan absolutely would have worked if Toba had just murdered everyone on the island (which would have included the Doctor, Jamie, Zoe, and Cully, the only people on the island who want to fight back).
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* HamAndCheese: Troughton spent most of the story overacting for his own entertainment.
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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: The story was intentionally written with an anti-pacifist message. However, it's also possible to read it as encouraging student activists to fight for justice, rejecting rote learning and irrational laws.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Pacificism, even if war-hungry ways have nearly wiped out the planet and left an island a whole island a nuclear wasteland full of corpses, is bad, because the first attacker will destroy you. Gun control is also bad. Arm the hippies.
* HamAndCheese:Troughton Creator/PatrickTroughton spent most of the story overacting for his own entertainment.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Pacificism, even if war-hungry ways have nearly wiped out the planet and left an island a whole island a nuclear wasteland full of corpses, is bad, because the first attacker will destroy you. Gun control is also bad. Arm the hippies.
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* HamAndCheese: Troughton spent most of the story overacting for his own entertainment.
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* InferredHolocaust: The Dominators have sent for their fleet. The Doctor only foiled their current plan.