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* FoeYay / [[HoYay Les Yay]]: Garza for Kiera in a kind of weird one-sided way. Along the way she also throws a smooch at Fonnegra. Then again, she likes trolling Kiera, who seems a bit straitlaced in the realm of sex.

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* FoeYay / [[HoYay Les Yay]]: HoYay: Garza for Kiera in a kind of weird one-sided way. Along the way she also throws a smooch at Fonnegra. Then again, she likes trolling Kiera, who seems a bit straitlaced in the realm of sex.
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Dewicking per TRS decision.


* FoeYay / [[HoYay Les Yay]] / BiTheWay: Garza for Kiera in a kind of weird one-sided way. Along the way she also throws a smooch at Fonnegra. Then again, she likes trolling Kiera, who seems a bit straitlaced in the realm of sex.

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* FoeYay / [[HoYay Les Yay]] / BiTheWay: Yay]]: Garza for Kiera in a kind of weird one-sided way. Along the way she also throws a smooch at Fonnegra. Then again, she likes trolling Kiera, who seems a bit straitlaced in the realm of sex.

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Spiritual Adaptation requires different mediums, both Continuum and Caprica were TV shows. Not to mention that these similarities are pretty superficial, making this Square Peg Round Trope anyway.


* SpiritualAdaptation: Strangely enough, this is an adaptation of ''Series/{{Caprica}}'' of all things. While at first glance, this may be chalked up to the many, MANY actors who crossover with both it and its parent series, there are simply too many similarities to be entirely coincidental. Let's count:
** Characters
*** A dark haired, aloof ActionGirl with superpowers and a very skewed sense of morality, exploring an alien environment. Are we talking about Kira Cameron or Zoey Graystone?
*** A ByTheBookCop who slowly jumps off the slippery slope of radicalism in his failing attempts to deal with a fanatical terrorist organization, and played by Brian Markinson. Jordan Durham or Jack Dillon?
*** Richard Harmon as angsty teenager who slowly TookALevelInBadass.
*** Wiliam B. Davis as a high ranking political figure in a dystopian sci-fi show?
** Themes
*** AIIsACrapshoot, CyberneticsEatYourSoul, ProtagonistCenteredMorality, AnyoneCanDie, hefty doses of GreyAndGrayMorality, many a CorruptCorporateExecutive, the list goes on...
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* CharacterDerailment: Kiera gets a nasty case of this in Season 4. Season's 1-3 deal with her slow realization that YouCantGoHomeAgain and just how messed up her time actually was, culminating with her finally accepting living in the present and dedicating herself to making sure her future never comes to pass. Come the first episode of Season 4, she receives a head injury and a brief hallucination, and snaps back to her previous goal of trying to get home, despite being told by everyone that this is impossible. [[ExactWords | They're right]].
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* CharacterDerailment: Kiera gets a nasty case of this in Season 4. Season's 1-3 deal with her slow realization that YouCantGoHomeAgain and just how messed up her time actually was, culminating with her finally accepting living in the present and dedicating herself to making sure her future never comes to pass. Come the first episode of Season 4, she receives a head injury and a brief hallucination, and snaps back to her previous goal of trying to get home, despite being told by everyone that this is impossible. [[ExactWords | They're right]].
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* KudzuPlot: Season 4 developed into this. TheGambitPileup of Liber8, the Traveler, Future Kellog's Commando's, Kellog, Theseus, Kiera, and the VPD, with loyalties and motivations changing per episode, it became incredibly frustrating to follow. And it only lasted 6 episodes.

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* KudzuPlot: Season 4 developed into this. TheGambitPileup The GambitPileup of Liber8, Liber 8, the Traveler, Future Kellog's Commando's, Kellog, Theseus, Kiera, and the VPD, with loyalties and motivations changing per episode, it became incredibly frustrating to follow. And it only lasted 6 episodes.

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* DesignatedHero: Kiera, especially since all she really cares about is going home to her family.

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* DesignatedHero: Kiera, especially since who starts off as basically ANaziByAnyOtherName, though a very sympathetic one. It doesn't help that, for all her trying to do the right thing, at the end of the day all she really cares about is going home to her family.getting home, which is impossible.



* KudzuPlot: Season 4 developed into this. TheGambitPileup of Liber8, the Traveler, Future Kellog's Commando's, Kellog, Theseus, Kiera, and the VPD, with loyalties and motivations changing per episode, it became incredibly frustrating to follow. And it only lasted 6 episodes.



* SeasonalRot: While things were getting a little murky come the second season, it still managed to attract fans and keep telling a relatively compelling storyline. Season 3, however, is where most fans agree the show really started falling apart, with many plots seeming only half-developed or rushed, and everyone turning on each other at the drop of the hat, making the heroes ''and'' the villains pretty unlikable for once. It also doesn't help this season decided to play heavy with a time travel plot to RetGone the ending of Season 2 and played up an obvious EvilTwin plot with [[spoiler: Alec]]. It's also a major sticking point this was the season that caused the network to cancel the show, approving just one more mini-season (only 6 episodes) to wrap things up.

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* SeasonalRot: While things were getting a little murky come the second season, it still managed to attract fans and keep telling a relatively compelling storyline. Season 3, however, is where most fans agree the show really started falling apart, with many plots seeming only half-developed or rushed, and everyone turning on each other at the drop of the hat, making the heroes ''and'' the villains pretty unlikable for once. It also doesn't help this season decided to play heavy with a time travel plot to RetGone the ending of Season 2 and played up an obvious EvilTwin plot with [[spoiler: Alec]]. It's also a major sticking point this was the season that caused the network to cancel the show, approving just one more mini-season (only 6 episodes) to wrap things up. However, as much as Season 3 is disliked, it did give the series a decent ending with, which only became a SeriesFauxnale by the final scene. Then Season 4 came along and basically through the character's growth AND all of the carefully established rules of time travel completely out the window. Basically, while Season 3 is not beloved, Season 4 is reviled.

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* FoeYay / LesYay / BiTheWay: Garza for Kiera in a kind of weird one-sided way. Along the way she also throws a smooch at Fonnegra. Then again, she likes trolling Kiera, who seems a bit straitlaced in the realm of sex.

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* FoeYay / LesYay [[HoYay Les Yay]] / BiTheWay: Garza for Kiera in a kind of weird one-sided way. Along the way she also throws a smooch at Fonnegra. Then again, she likes trolling Kiera, who seems a bit straitlaced in the realm of sex.



* SpecialEffectsFailure: For a show that usually has decent special effects by the network's standards, [[spoiler: the completely CG [[SpaceMarine power-armored future soldiers]]]] pursuing Kiera in the fourth season opening look laughably bad. It's especially jarring given how good they looked standing still at the end of Season 3.
* {{Squick}}:
** The incinerated remains of the [[PeoplePuppets mind-controlled bank robbers]] in "Minute to Win It".
** "Minute of Silence" gives us ''Amateur Autopsy Hour'' with our host, [[spoiler:Alec Sadler]]. Who needs proper tools when you have a power drill and a hole saw?
* SpiritualLicensee: Strangely enough, to ''Series/{{Caprica}}'' of all things. While at first glance, this may be chalked up to the many, MANY actors who crossover with both it and its parent series, there are simply too many similarities to be entirely coincidental. Let's count:

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: SpecialEffectFailure: For a show that usually has decent special effects by the network's standards, [[spoiler: the completely CG [[SpaceMarine power-armored future soldiers]]]] pursuing Kiera in the fourth season opening look laughably bad. It's especially jarring given how good they looked standing still at the end of Season 3.
* {{Squick}}:
** The incinerated remains of the [[PeoplePuppets mind-controlled bank robbers]] in "Minute to Win It".
** "Minute of Silence" gives us ''Amateur Autopsy Hour'' with our host, [[spoiler:Alec Sadler]]. Who needs proper tools when you have a power drill and a hole saw?
* SpiritualLicensee:
SpiritualAdaptation: Strangely enough, to this is an adaptation of ''Series/{{Caprica}}'' of all things. While at first glance, this may be chalked up to the many, MANY actors who crossover with both it and its parent series, there are simply too many similarities to be entirely coincidental. Let's count:



*** AIIsACrapshoot, CyberneticsEatYourSoul, ProtagonistCenteredMorality, AnyoneCanDie, hefty doses of GreyAndGrayMorality, many a CorruptCorporateExecutive, the list goes on...

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*** AIIsACrapshoot, CyberneticsEatYourSoul, ProtagonistCenteredMorality, AnyoneCanDie, hefty doses of GreyAndGrayMorality, many a CorruptCorporateExecutive, the list goes on...on...
* {{Squick}}:
** The incinerated remains of the [[PeoplePuppets mind-controlled bank robbers]] in "Minute to Win It".
** "Minute of Silence" gives us ''Amateur Autopsy Hour'' with our host, [[spoiler:Alec Sadler]]. Who needs proper tools when you have a power drill and a hole saw?
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*** AIIsACrapshoot, CyberneticsEatYourSoul, ProtagonistCenteredMorality, AnyoneCanDie, hefty doses of GreyAndGrayMorality, many a CorruptCorporateExecutive, the list goes on...

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* GeniusBonus: Courtesy of the section "Time Travel in the Real World".
* ParanoiaFuel:
** Any leveller in history or even other spanners could be replaced by a Thespian.
** For crashers: First, anyone could be a Continuum plant, ''especially'' a future or past you. Second, if you know both the Continuum side of the story and the Narcissist side, the possibility occurs that ''any time you crash out of the main universe'', you're just being lied to by the Inheritors.

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*** AIIsACrapshoot, CyberneticsEatYourSoul, ProtagonistCenteredMorality, AnyoneCanDie, hefty doses of GreyAndGrayMorality, many a CorruptCorporateExecutive, the list goes on...

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* GeniusBonus: Courtesy of the section "Time Travel in the Real World".
* ParanoiaFuel:
** Any leveller in history or even other spanners could be replaced by a Thespian.
** For crashers: First, anyone could be a Continuum plant, ''especially'' a future or past you. Second, if you know both the Continuum side of the story and the Narcissist side, the possibility occurs that ''any time you crash out of the main universe'', you're just being lied to by the Inheritors.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: The series had to give [=Liber8=] a truly ''astromonical'' death toll right from the start to prevent this, given that they're a RagtagBunchOfMisfits trying to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, whereas Kiera's EstablishingCharacterMoment involves her beating up a young man who's wanted for [[FelonyMisdemeanor minor vandalism]]. Even then it's hard to resist this trope at times, since AMillionIsAStatistic.
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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler: Agent Gardiner]] could qualify, although this depends on whether one considers him either [[spoiler: a loyal CSIS Agent doing his job to investigate a mysterious woman whose story doesn't hold up, or simply an InspectorJavert deliberately seeking ways to antagonize and implicate Kiera for ''any'' crime whatsoever]].
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fixed a wick for a split trope, and I'm moving it out of YMMV, since Annoying Video Game Helper is YMMV but Unwanted Assistance is not.


* StopHelpingMe: More than once, a hostage has professed to agree with [=Liber8=] and gotten shot by Travis for doing so.


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* JerkassWoobie: Kellog seems to be a classic ConMan, ManipulativeBastard and PunchClockVillain abusing time travel for his own gains. [[spoiler:Then he had to watch the woman he thought/might be was his grandmother die in his arms due to his former comrades trying to blackmail him and his own back story implies he only joined up with Liber8 after he was wrongfully arrested because he stayed with his dying sister (the real Liber8 member at the time) in her last moments when the arresting officers fired upon them]] it is really hard to not feel bad for the guy. [[spoiler:And he gets to witness the Charlie Foxtrot that the Liber8 inspired timeline becomes, as he becomes one of the last holdouts after a series of devastating inter-corporate civil wars.]]

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* JerkassWoobie: Kellog seems to be a classic ConMan, ManipulativeBastard and PunchClockVillain abusing time travel for his own gains. [[spoiler:Then he had to watch the woman he thought/might be was his grandmother die in his arms due to his former comrades trying to blackmail him and his own back story implies he only joined up with Liber8 after he was wrongfully arrested because he stayed with his dying sister (the real Liber8 [=Liber8=] member at the time) in her last moments when the arresting officers fired upon them]] it is really hard to not feel bad for the guy. [[spoiler:And he gets to witness the Charlie Foxtrot that the Liber8 inspired timeline becomes, as he becomes one of the last holdouts after a series of devastating inter-corporate civil wars.]]



* ParanoiaFuel: Quite a bit of what Liber8 is fighting against is disturbingly plausible. And some of it has ''already happened''. Kagame explaining how the banks dodged responsibility for the 2010 crash is a good example.

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* ParanoiaFuel: Quite a bit of what Liber8 [=Liber8=] is fighting against is disturbingly plausible. And some of it has ''already happened''. Kagame explaining how the banks dodged responsibility for the 2010 crash is a good example.



* StopHelpingMe: More than once, a hostage has professed to agree with Liber8 and gotten shot by Travis for doing so.

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* StopHelpingMe: More than once, a hostage has professed to agree with Liber8 [=Liber8=] and gotten shot by Travis for doing so.
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*** A ByTheBooksCop who slowly jumps off the slippery slope of radicalism in his failing attempts to deal with a fanatical terrorist organization, and played by Brian Markinson. Jordan Durham or Jack Dillon?

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*** A ByTheBooksCop ByTheBookCop who slowly jumps off the slippery slope of radicalism in his failing attempts to deal with a fanatical terrorist organization, and played by Brian Markinson. Jordan Durham or Jack Dillon?



*** A.I.IsACrapshoot, CyberneticsEatYourSoul, ProtagonistCenteredMorality, AnyoneCanDie, hefty doses of GreyAndGrayMorality, many a CorruptCorporateExecutive, the list goes on...

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*** A.I.IsACrapshoot, AIIsACrapshoot, CyberneticsEatYourSoul, ProtagonistCenteredMorality, AnyoneCanDie, hefty doses of GreyAndGrayMorality, many a CorruptCorporateExecutive, the list goes on...

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* SpiritualLicensee: Strangely enough, to ''Series/{{Caprica}}'' of all things. While at first glance, this may be chalked up to the many, MANY actors who crossover with both it and its parent series, there are simply too many similarities to be entirely coincidental. Let's count:
** Characters
*** A dark haired, aloof ActionGirl with superpowers and a very skewed sense of morality, exploring an alien environment. Are we talking about Kira Cameron or Zoey Graystone?
*** A ByTheBooksCop who slowly jumps off the slippery slope of radicalism in his failing attempts to deal with a fanatical terrorist organization, and played by Brian Markinson. Jordan Durham or Jack Dillon?
*** Richard Harmon as angsty teenager who slowly TookALevelInBadass.
*** Wiliam B. Davis as a high ranking political figure in a dystopian sci-fi show?
** Themes
*** A.I.IsACrapshoot, CyberneticsEatYourSoul, ProtagonistCenteredMorality, AnyoneCanDie, hefty doses of GreyAndGrayMorality, many a CorruptCorporateExecutive, the list goes on...

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* ParanoiaFuel: Any leveller in history or even other spanners could be replaced by a Thespian.

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* ParanoiaFuel: ParanoiaFuel:
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Any leveller in history or even other spanners could be replaced by a Thespian.Thespian.
** For crashers: First, anyone could be a Continuum plant, ''especially'' a future or past you. Second, if you know both the Continuum side of the story and the Narcissist side, the possibility occurs that ''any time you crash out of the main universe'', you're just being lied to by the Inheritors.

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