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* AcceptableTargets: Rich snobs, bullies, [[spoiler: Mary Sue,]] and of course, fandom cliches that pop up in the Young Justice fandom.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Several times to address mistakes the author made.
** A second chapter after the Adoption cliche was written addressing how the Team's legal guardians/parents reacted to the idea.
** A self-imposed one by the author addressing an issue with Zatanna in previous stories, giving her a dose of LaserGuidedKarma and making her more [[TheAtoner regretful of her actions against Wally in the past]].
** When criticized for not wanting to do a chapter on Superman initially, Superman finally gets the spotlight and is portrayed in a sympathetic light over his neglect of Conner, while still [[TheAtoner trying to make up for it]].
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* GrowingTheBeard: The story starts off with short, but funny chapters and slowly evolves into balancing between humor and drama while maintaining more of a story as the fic progresses. Chapter 19 has shown this with a good balance of this. It hits its mark with Chapter 21, dealing with the initial deconstructed cliche and the aftermath from several viewpoints.
* WhatAnIdiot: Dick confronts Bruce about his bullying problem in Chapter 15, frustrated that he isn't allowed to defend himself. Bruce decides to do something about it on his own terms.
** '''You'd Expect''': That he confront the bullies' parents and possibly get the school involved to prevent this from happening again, using his influence as the richest man in Gotham to ensure that Dick doesn't have to worry about being harassed anymore.
** '''Instead''': He goes out as Batman and threatens the bullies while '''in costume and uses Dick's name'''. Note, that he had previously told Dick [[{{Hypocrite}} that he couldn't defend himself at the risk of exposing his secret ID]].
** '''The Result?''': [[spoiler: One of the bullies figures out that Bruce and Dick are the Dynamic Duo and attacks Dick '''again''', only this time, Dick [[GroinAttack kicks him in the crotch]].]] Dick and Alfred are also pissed at Bruce for the action, with Alfred suggesting contacting the school and parents like a concerned father might do. Bruce also puts himself on sour terms with the two of them for doing something so out of character. The story ends with Bruce attempting to make amends with Dick, [[BittersweetEnding but deciding to leave the boy alone and respect his wishes for once when Dick refuses to talk to him.]]
** '''However''': This was {{enforced|Trope}} by the author, wanting to show the [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools consequences of the fandom's typical solution to bully fics]], rather than just discussing it.

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* GrowingTheBeard: The story starts off with short, but funny chapters and slowly evolves into balancing between humor and drama while maintaining more of a story as the fic progresses. Chapter 19 has shown this with a good balance of this. It hits its mark with Chapter 21, dealing with the initial deconstructed cliche and the aftermath from several viewpoints.
* WhatAnIdiot: Dick confronts Bruce about his bullying problem in Chapter 15, frustrated that he isn't allowed to defend himself. Bruce decides to do something about it on his own terms.
** '''You'd Expect''': That he confront the bullies' parents and possibly get the school involved to prevent this from happening again, using his influence as the richest man in Gotham to ensure that Dick doesn't have to worry about being harassed anymore.
** '''Instead''': He goes out as Batman and threatens the bullies while '''in costume and uses Dick's name'''. Note, that he had previously told Dick [[{{Hypocrite}} that he couldn't defend himself at the risk of exposing his secret ID]].
** '''The Result?''': [[spoiler: One of the bullies figures out that Bruce and Dick are the Dynamic Duo and attacks Dick '''again''', only this time, Dick [[GroinAttack kicks him in the crotch]].]] Dick and Alfred are also pissed at Bruce for the action, with Alfred suggesting contacting the school and parents like a concerned father might do. Bruce also puts himself on sour terms with the two of them for doing something so out of character. The story ends with Bruce attempting to make amends with Dick, [[BittersweetEnding but deciding to leave the boy alone and respect his wishes for once when Dick refuses to talk to him.]]
** '''However''': This was {{enforced|Trope}} by the author, wanting to show the [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools consequences of the fandom's typical solution to bully fics]], rather than just discussing it.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
** Chapter 8: There are two sides to every story. And try to use your common sense and observational skills rather than just letting the majority rule who was in the right.
** Chapter 14: What might seem funny to you might actually be traumatic to someone else on the receiving end.
** Chapter 15: If you enforce a rule on someone but don't follow up on it yourself, no one will be happy. Also, don't go over the top to fix a problem when several simpler solutions are available, as Alfred pointed out to Bruce in the end. And respect that a child, especially an intelligent one like Dick, is capable of having their own opinions and needs that need to be met and deserve to be given the same amount of respect they give back.
** Chapter 20: Don't rely on cultural stereotypes and put in the effort to ask and learn the real facts.
** Chapter 21: A leader is sometimes forced to make a tough decision, but it doesn't always give you the right to ream them for it, especially if whatever happened was a MortonsFork or not really the leader's fault.
** Chapter 24: OnceDoneNeverForgotten gets tiring after the event has passed and those involved have learned from it. If you don't drop the issue, then YOU end up looking immature and in the wrong.
** Chapter 25: Sometimes, you have to send a big message to get the point across to other people. Also, [[PoorCommunicationKills not taking the time to explain the situation to the ones you care about can be harmful]], as Dick's narration makes it clear. Once Bruce puts his foot down and makes it clear to Dick that he is wanted and loved, things get better between them.
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** Chapter 24: NeverLiveItDown gets tiring after the event has passed and those involved have learned from it. If you don't drop the issue, then YOU end up looking immature and in the wrong.

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** Chapter 24: NeverLiveItDown OnceDoneNeverForgotten gets tiring after the event has passed and those involved have learned from it. If you don't drop the issue, then YOU end up looking immature and in the wrong.
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** '''However''': This was {{enforced|Trope}} by the author, wanting to show the [[TropesAreNotBad consequences of the fandom's typical solution to bully fics]], rather than just discussing it.

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** '''However''': This was {{enforced|Trope}} by the author, wanting to show the [[TropesAreNotBad [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools consequences of the fandom's typical solution to bully fics]], rather than just discussing it.
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* SpotlightStealingSquad: [[DefiedTrope Defied regarding Robin.]] WordOfGod states that he plans on making sure that each of the Team is given a fair amount of spotlight. He frequently asks reviewers for cliche ideas that don't focus on Robin for this reason.
* TooDumbToLive: Plenty of these.
** The bully, Richie Beldore, in Chapter 1. He decides that it's perfectly okay to attack Dick Grayson despite the fact that Bruce Wayne is his foster father and rich enough to ruin his family financially.
** Harley 2 also gets some notice for failing to imprison the Team properly. [[spoiler: The Joker rewards her as [[BoomHeadshot an idiot would deserve]].]]
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** Chapter 8: There are two sides to every story. And try to use your common sense and observational skills rather than just letting the majority rule who was in the right.

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Chapter 8-9 don't really drop an anvil regarding this


* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Chapter 9 (and 8, to an extent) drop one regarding racism. It is still a problem in today's society, but standards have changed to the point where it is no longer viewed as acceptable behavior.
** Especially so with Donald Trump as president, as a reviewer and the author pointed out.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
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Chapter 9 (and 8, 14: What might seem funny to an extent) drop you might actually be traumatic to someone else on the receiving end.
** Chapter 15: If you enforce a rule on someone but don't follow up on it yourself, no
one regarding racism. It is still will be happy. Also, don't go over the top to fix a problem when several simpler solutions are available, as Alfred pointed out to Bruce in today's society, the end. And respect that a child, especially an intelligent one like Dick, is capable of having their own opinions and needs that need to be met and deserve to be given the same amount of respect they give back.
** Chapter 20: Don't rely on cultural stereotypes and put in the effort to ask and learn the real facts.
** Chapter 21: A leader is sometimes forced to make a tough decision,
but standards it doesn't always give you the right to ream them for it, especially if whatever happened was a MortonsFork or not really the leader's fault.
** Chapter 24: NeverLiveItDown gets tiring after the event has passed and those involved
have changed learned from it. If you don't drop the issue, then YOU end up looking immature and in the wrong.
** Chapter 25: Sometimes, you have
to send a big message to get the point where across to other people. Also, [[PoorCommunicationKills not taking the time to explain the situation to the ones you care about can be harmful]], as Dick's narration makes it is no longer viewed as acceptable behavior.
** Especially so with Donald Trump as president, as a reviewer
clear. Once Bruce puts his foot down and the author pointed out.makes it clear to Dick that he is wanted and loved, things get better between them.
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** When criticized for not wanting to do a chapter on Superman initially, Superman finally gets the spotlight and is portrayed in a sympathetic light over his neglect of Conner, while still [[TheAtoner trying to make up for it]].
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* AcceptableTargets: Rich snobs, bullies, [[spoiler: MarySue]], and of course, fandom cliches that pop up in the Young Justice fandom.

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* AcceptableTargets: Rich snobs, bullies, [[spoiler: MarySue]], Mary Sue,]] and of course, fandom cliches that pop up in the Young Justice fandom.



** A self-imposed one by the author addressing an issue with Zatanna in previous stories, giving her a dose of LaserGuidedKarma and making her more [[TheAtoner regretful of her actions against Wally in the past.]]

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** A self-imposed one by the author addressing an issue with Zatanna in previous stories, giving her a dose of LaserGuidedKarma and making her more [[TheAtoner regretful of her actions against Wally in the past.]]past]].



* SpotlightStealingSquad: [[DefiedTrope Defied regarding Robin]]. WordOfGod states that he plans on making sure that each of the Team is given a fair amount of spotlight. He frequently asks reviewers for cliche ideas that don't focus on Robin for this reason.

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* SpotlightStealingSquad: [[DefiedTrope Defied regarding Robin]]. Robin.]] WordOfGod states that he plans on making sure that each of the Team is given a fair amount of spotlight. He frequently asks reviewers for cliche ideas that don't focus on Robin for this reason.



** Harley 2 also gets some notice for failing to imprison the Team properly. [[spoiler: the Joker rewards her as [[BoomHeadshot an idiot would deserve.]]]]

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** Harley 2 also gets some notice for failing to imprison the Team properly. [[spoiler: the The Joker rewards her as [[BoomHeadshot an idiot would deserve.]]]]deserve]].]]



** '''The Result?''': [[spoiler: One of the bullies figures out that Bruce and Dick are the Dynamic Duo and attacks Dick '''again''', only this time, Dick [[GroinAttack kicks him in the crotch]]]]. Dick and Alfred are also pissed at Bruce for the action, with Alfred suggesting contacting the school and parents like a concerned father might do. Bruce also puts himself on sour terms with the two of them for doing something so out of character. The story ends with Bruce attempting to make amends with Dick, [[BittersweetEnding but deciding to leave the boy alone and respect his wishes for once when Dick refuses to talk to him.]]
** '''However''': This was [[EnforcedTrope enforced]] by the author, wanting to show the [[TropesAreNotBad consequences of the fandom's typical solution to bully fics]], rather than just discussing it.

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** '''The Result?''': [[spoiler: One of the bullies figures out that Bruce and Dick are the Dynamic Duo and attacks Dick '''again''', only this time, Dick [[GroinAttack kicks him in the crotch]]]]. crotch]].]] Dick and Alfred are also pissed at Bruce for the action, with Alfred suggesting contacting the school and parents like a concerned father might do. Bruce also puts himself on sour terms with the two of them for doing something so out of character. The story ends with Bruce attempting to make amends with Dick, [[BittersweetEnding but deciding to leave the boy alone and respect his wishes for once when Dick refuses to talk to him.]]
** '''However''': This was [[EnforcedTrope enforced]] {{enforced|Trope}} by the author, wanting to show the [[TropesAreNotBad consequences of the fandom's typical solution to bully fics]], rather than just discussing it.
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* GrowingTheBeard: The story starts off with short, but funny chapters and slowly evolves into balancing between humor and drama while maintaining more of a story as the fic progresses. Chapter 19 has shown this with a good balance of this.

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* GrowingTheBeard: The story starts off with short, but funny chapters and slowly evolves into balancing between humor and drama while maintaining more of a story as the fic progresses. Chapter 19 has shown this with a good balance of this. It hits its mark with Chapter 21, dealing with the initial deconstructed cliche and the aftermath from several viewpoints.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: The author's earlier portrayals of Superboy had been criticized for dumbing him down and making him a 6 year old in the body of a 16 year old (or at least 16 week acting like 16 years). Chapter 3 has him received more positively by being more level-headed, knowledgeable, and funny without coming at the expense of those characteristics.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Dick NOT taking a beating in the first chapter and beating up his would-be bullies. He also shuts down Bruce's flimsy excuse about his identity being put at risk by pointing out Dick has to deal with more danger in his daily life than Bruce does and needs to defend himself.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Dick NOT taking a beating in the first chapter and beating up his would-be bullies. He also shuts down Bruce's flimsy excuse about his identity being put at risk by pointing out Dick has to deal with more danger in his daily life than Bruce does and needs to defend himself.
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New Tears entry.


* {{Tearjerker}}: Surprising a good deal in a funny fanfic.
** Chapter 2: Artemis afraid that Wally has a [[AbusiveParents similar background to her own]]. The way she talks to him under this belief shows how broken she still is.
** Wally unsure of how to reassure her at first and wondering [[AdultFear if she is still living in a harsh environment]].
** Chapter 3: Zatanna tearing up at the prospect of communicating with her father, Zatarra, through Doctor Fate again. Doubles as a CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming.
** Chapter 8: 9-year-old Dick being bullied for his heritage, particularly regarding insults against his mother.
*** The look on his face when Dick realizes Bruce listened to the lie that the bullies were telling and wasn't planning on giving Dick the benefit of a doubt. Even the principal, the one who told Bruce the truth, was shocked by this, wondering [[WhatTheHellHero how he could have believed it so quickly.]]
*** The principal chews out the parents for defending their sons so quickly, guilt-tripping one of the mothers (who donates and supports the Foundation for Children In Need) to the point of near-tears.
** Chapter 9: Dick is hesitant to interact with other students at first due to the events of the previous chapter, thinking that they will just cause trouble for him. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Thankfully, he is proven wrong almost instantaneously]].
** Chapter 10: Several segments. Iris feeling depressed about not having children, [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre with Wally saying that she is a second mother to him]]. Bruce talking to his parents' grave, wishing they could have met Dick.
--> Bruce: He is your grandson, after all
** Dick being [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness somber and quiet]], sadly smiling after visiting his parents' grave. Zatanna accompanying Dick to the cemetery with Alfred, talking about their late mothers off-screen. Mixed with CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, similar to the scene with Iris and Wally above, as Dick is slowly healing and finding mother figures in Black Canary, Catwoman, Wonder Woman, and several women that Bruce dated in the past, proving that not all the girls Bruce dates are [[RichBitch selfish assholes]].
** Chapter 13: Jade attempting to patch things up with Artemis, struggling at first with Artemis snarking at her for "Every Girl For Herself."
** Chapter 14: Wally being shaken [[spoiler: by Zatanna's pranks on him in the past, seeking counseling with Black Canary]]. Its also implied that he is still haunted by the events of "[[Recap/YoungJusticeS1E16Failsafe Failsafe.]]"
** Chapter 15: Dick is harassed by bullies and is forbidden from retaliating. Bruce grounding him on false charges so he could handle the bullies by himself, with Dick quietly asking Alfred what he did wrong after the argument. Alfred and especially Dick getting pissed off at Bruce for his actions, [[spoiler: which lead to some of the bullies figuring out their secret IDs]], with Dick storming out of the room calling Bruce a "stupid hypocrite."
*** Bruce attempts to reconcile with Dick, but Dick won't have it.
** Chapter 19: Wally being adamant against [[spoiler: partnering up with Zatanna]] to the point of shouting in the mind-link in terror.
*** M'gann being terrified of Aqualad's concussion and struggling to keep him from slipping into unconsciousness, even noted by one reviewer:
--> Black' Victor Cachat: All those fics that dismiss head trauma as being serious...

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* SpotlightStealingSquad: [[DefiedTrope Defied regarding Robin]]. WordOfGod states that he plans on making sure that each of the Team is given a fair amount of spotlight. He frequently asks reviewers for cliche ideas that don't focus on Robin for this reason.


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* SpotlightStealingSquad: [[DefiedTrope Defied regarding Robin]]. WordOfGod states that he plans on making sure that each of the Team is given a fair amount of spotlight. He frequently asks reviewers for cliche ideas that don't focus on Robin for this reason.

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