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* GrowingTheBeard: The songs in ''An Ocean Between Us'' have gotten more impressive on a melodic and heavier level.

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* GrowingTheBeard: The songs in ''An Ocean Between Us'' have gotten is generally regarded as the point where the band's music became more impressive on a melodic and heavier level.



* TaintedByThePreview: When it was revealed that The pre-jail time line-up would be back with Lambesis as the vocalist, there was a lot of debate as to whether having him back was a good idea.

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* TaintedByThePreview: When it was revealed that The the pre-jail time line-up would be back with Lambesis as the vocalist, there was a lot of debate as to whether having him back was a good idea.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: Tim Lambesis's arrest and conviction for attempting to put a hit out on his wife has left a huge black mark on the band's reputation, to say the least.


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* {{Wangst}}: Some of their lyrics can stray into this, particularly on their earlier works. This has led some metalheads to give them the derisive nickname "As I Lay Crying".


* BrokenBase: Continuing the band with Tim has been divisive. Supporters believe in giving people a second chance, that people can truly change for the better, while detractors believe in the "once a scumbag, always a scumbag" principal. Tim himself even noted this, as he said he knows some aren't ready to forgive him anytime soon.

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* BrokenBase: Continuing the band with Tim has been divisive. Supporters believe in giving people a second chance, that people can truly change for the better, while detractors believe in the "once a scumbag, always a scumbag" principal. Tim himself even noted this, as he said he knows acknowledges that some aren't ready to forgive him anytime soon.


* BrokenBase: Continuing the band with Tim has been divisive. Supporters believe in giving people a second chance, that people can truly change for the better, while detractors believe in the "once a scumbag, always a scumbag" principal.

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* BrokenBase: Continuing the band with Tim has been divisive. Supporters believe in giving people a second chance, that people can truly change for the better, while detractors believe in the "once a scumbag, always a scumbag" principal. Tim himself even noted this, as he said he knows some aren't ready to forgive him anytime soon.



* TaintedByThePreview: When it was revealed that The pre-jail line-up would be back with Lambesis as the vocalist, there was a lot of debate as to whether having him back was a good idea.
* WhatAnIdiot: Lambesis hiring what he thought was an ordinary hitman ended up being an undercover cop.

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* TaintedByThePreview: When it was revealed that The pre-jail time line-up would be back with Lambesis as the vocalist, there was a lot of debate as to whether having him back was a good idea.
* WhatAnIdiot: Lambesis hiring what he thought was an ordinary hitman ended up being an undercover cop.
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* BrokenBase: Continuing the band with Tim has been divisive. Supporters believe in giving people a second chance, that people can truly change for the better, while detractors believe in the "once a scumbag, always a scumbag" principal.

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* TaintedByThePreview: When it was revealed that The pre-jail line-up would be back with Lambesis as the vocalist, there was a lot of debate as to whether having him back was a good idea.


%%* FaceOfTheBand: Tim Lambesis
* GrowingTheBeard: The songs in ''An Ocean Between Us'' have gotten more impressive on a technical and melodic level.

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%%* * FaceOfTheBand: Tim Lambesis
Lambesis, to the point where his arrest caused major rifts around the other members and a major dissapointment in fans.
* GrowingTheBeard: The songs in ''An Ocean Between Us'' have gotten more impressive on a technical and melodic and heavier level.


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* WinBackTheCrowd: "My Own Grave" was more or less an apology, with the lyrics with Tim being TheAtoner.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: As a Faulkner book full of the UnreliableNarrator trope, this is to be expected. For example...
**Is Dewey Dell actually pregnant? As Dewey Dell is immature and ignored by most around her, she has a certain lack of common sense. Even at the time of the novel, it would be common for a girl to miss her period and mistake it for pregnancy, due to poor nutritional standards. Dewey Dell has also grown up poor on a farm. Indeed, Dewey Dell has shown no symptoms of pregnancy in the text, such as morning sickness or her stomach growing.
**Jewel is either the outsider of the family due to being a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, or a SpoiledBrat and a Jerkass because he knows that his father is not Anse.
**Darl either has good morals or he is a Jerkass who doesn't own up to his mistakes.
**Anse is either a good father or a lazy bum who uses religion to justify not having to work.
**Anse either treats Jewel bad because he won't conform to him or because he knows Jewel's status as a HeroicBastard and a symbol of Addie's affair.


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* DeaderThanDisco: Originally one of the biggest melodic metalcore acts, Lambesis' arrest made the name poisonous overnight and destroyed the band's status in one fell swoop. This also extended to Austrian Death Machine and Pyrithion, both of which are most likely gone forever. Even if Lambesis does try to resurrect his career, it's unlikely that any major metal label will be willing to touch him.


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* FunnyMoments: The pharmacy owner hitting on an oblivious Dewey Dell is definitely this... until he [[spoiler: rapes her.]]
* TheHero: Darl, the only one who understands that Addie was a loveless, cruel individual who only wants to be taken to Jefferson out of revenge,[[spoiler: and so he tries to bury her as quickly as possible, first in the river, then in the fire.]]

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!!The Book:
* FunnyMoments: SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: The pharmacy owner hitting on an oblivious Dewey Dell is definitely this... until he [[spoiler: rapes her.]]
* TheHero: Darl, the only one who understands that Addie was a loveless, cruel individual who only wants to be taken to Jefferson out of revenge,[[spoiler: %%* IronWoobie: Cash.
%%* JerkassWoobie: Darl
and so he tries to bury her as quickly as possible, first in the river, then in the fire.]]Jewel.



* TheWoobie: Dewey Dell.
** IronWoobie: Cash.
** JerkassWoobie: Darl and Jewel.

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* %%* TheWoobie: Dewey Dell.
** IronWoobie: Cash.
** JerkassWoobie: Darl and Jewel.
Dell.




The Metalcore band:

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* FaceOfTheBand: Tim Lambesis
* GrowingTheBeard: The songs in An Ocean Between Us have gotten more impressive on a technical and melodic level
* MagnumOpus: Either Shadows are Security or An Ocean Between Us.
* SignatureSong: Forever, Nothing Left[=/=]The Sound of Truth, Confined, or Parallels.

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* %%* FaceOfTheBand: Tim Lambesis
* GrowingTheBeard: The songs in An ''An Ocean Between Us Us'' have gotten more impressive on a technical and melodic level
* MagnumOpus: Either Shadows are Security or An Ocean Between Us.
level.
* SignatureSong: Forever, Nothing "Forever", "Nothing Left[=/=]The Sound of Truth, Confined, Truth", "Confined", or Parallels."Parallels".

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* FunnyMoments: The pharmacy owner hitting on an oblivious Dewey Dell is definitely this... until he [[spoiler: rapes her.]]


* DeaderThanDisco: Originally one of the most hailed bands, the attempted murder got nothing but scorn from fans.

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* DeaderThanDisco: Originally one of the biggest melodic metalcore acts, Lambesis' arrest made the name poisonous overnight and destroyed the band's status in one fell swoop. This also extended to Austrian Death Machine and Pyrithion, both of which are most hailed bands, the attempted murder got nothing but scorn from fans.likely gone forever. Even if Lambesis does try to resurrect his career, it's unlikely that any major metal label will be willing to touch him.

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* DeaderThanDisco: Originally one of the most hailed bands, the attempted murder got nothing but scorn from fans.


* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: All by himself, Jewel carries Addie's casket out of a burning barn.

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