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* StuckInTheirShadow: Despite being major characters who give directions to the main characters so they could return home, Marcel and Paddy are not really that popular with the fandom. Go ahead and check out any fanbase on Website/DeviantArt or Website/YouTube, you'll be surprised that those two have barely to any mention with the rest of the characters, a majority being wolf fans.

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* TheScrappy: Despite being major characters who give directions to the main characters so they could return home, Marcel and Paddy are not really that popular with the fandom. Go ahead and check out any fanbase on Website/DeviantArt or Website/YouTube, you'll be surprised that those two have barely to any mention with the rest of the characters, a majority being wolf fans.
** The pups aren't particularly liked. While Claudette isn't cared for much due to her lack of CharacterDevelopment outside of her crush on Fleet and Stinky mostly being considered annoying because he constantly brings up the fact that he's going to be the next leader of the pack and his "parenting tips" for Kate and Humphrey, Runt, in particular, gets a lot of heat for being a condescending brat. This made worse as many fans accuse them of taking away focus from more interesting characters such as Lilly and Garth.

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* TheScrappy: Despite being major characters who give directions to the main characters so they could return home, Marcel and Paddy are not really that popular with the fandom. Go ahead and check out any fanbase on Website/DeviantArt or Website/YouTube, you'll be surprised that those two have barely to any mention with the rest of the characters, a majority being wolf fans.
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The pups aren't particularly liked. While Claudette isn't cared for much due to her lack of CharacterDevelopment outside of her crush on Fleet and Stinky mostly being considered annoying because he constantly brings up the fact that he's going to be the next leader of the pack and his "parenting tips" for Kate and Humphrey, Runt, in particular, gets a lot of heat for being a condescending brat. This made worse as many fans accuse them of taking away focus from more interesting characters such as Lilly and Garth.
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** ''Alpha and Omega'' concerns the conflicts between two wolf packs over a food shortage and the main antagonist is an AntiVillain determined to ensure his pack's survival. The possibility of a wolf war and the questioning of traditions are fascinating concepts. This premise gets pushed into the background for [[ClicheStorm a typical interclass love story with a typical "You should be with who you love"]] [[AnAesop Aesop]] as the film's primary focus.

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** ''Alpha and Omega'' concerns the conflicts between two wolf packs over a food shortage and the main antagonist is an AntiVillain determined to ensure his pack's survival. The possibility of a wolf war and the questioning of traditions are fascinating concepts. This premise gets pushed into the background for [[ClicheStorm a typical interclass love story with a typical "You should be with who you love"]] [[AnAesop Aesop]] love" moral]] as the film's primary focus.
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* ClicheStorm: Entire movie in a nutshell: Male falls in love with a female. Male realizes he can't be with the aforementioned female because their love is forbidden due to them being different (in this case, on diffrent ends of a hierarchal spectrum, essentially "unpopular guy falls for popular girl"). Male and female get captured, wake up in a new location, and have to find their way home. Then throw in a bunch of kiddie humor during their adventure. Male and female finally arrive home, but [[spoiler:the female dies. [[DisneyDeath Oh wait, she didn't actually die]]. Male and female, despite their differences, fall in love, and live HappilyEverAfter. The end.]] ''AND'' there's a direct-to-video sequel where they have 3 children.

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* ClicheStorm: Entire movie in a nutshell: Male falls in love with a female. Male realizes he can't be with the aforementioned female because their love is forbidden due to them being different (in this case, on diffrent different ends of a hierarchal spectrum, essentially "unpopular guy falls for popular girl"). Male and female get captured, wake up in a new location, and have to find their way home. Then throw in a bunch of kiddie humor during their adventure. Male and female finally arrive home, but [[spoiler:the female dies. [[DisneyDeath Oh wait, she didn't actually die]]. Male and female, despite their differences, fall in love, and live HappilyEverAfter. The end.]] ''AND'' there's a direct-to-video sequel where they have 3 children.
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* ObscurePopularity: The films have a large and loyal fanbase, [[PopularWithFurries particularly among furries and wolf fans]], which no doubt enabled it to gain ''several'' sequels. However, most non-furries have never heard of the franchise (much less watched any of the films), and those who ''have'' tend to brush them off as [[SoOkayItsAverage mediocre]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: For ''Series/{{Nashville}}'' watchers, the idea of Chris Carmack (the voice of Garth) singing awfully. As when the attempts to make Garth and Kate a couple, considering Carmack and Hayden Panttiere both play country singers who like men.
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** [[UglyCute Salty]], that one tall, skinny wolf friend of Humphrey's who looks kinda like [[WesternAnimation/IceAge Scrat]] and talks like a surfer, is also a fan favorite.

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** [[UglyCute Salty]], that one the tall, skinny wolf friend of Humphrey's who looks kinda like [[WesternAnimation/IceAge Scrat]] and talks like a surfer, is also a fan favorite.
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* UglyCute: There's Salty, Humphrey's friend who resembles Scrat. Also, ''Legend'' shows Tony when he was a cub, looking like a tinier version of himself, and with a noticeably flatter face.

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* UglyCute: There's Salty, Humphrey's friend who resembles Scrat. Also, ''Legend'' shows Tony when he was a cub, pup, looking like a tinier version of himself, and with a noticeably flatter face.



** The cubs of the sequel ''Alpha and Omega 2: A Howl-iday Adventure'' also have this issue, even just looking at the cover art, due to their human-like features and big eyes. Runt gets it the worst due to his smaller size with the big eyes.

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** The cubs pups of the sequel ''Alpha and Omega 2: A Howl-iday Adventure'' also have this issue, even just looking at the cover art, due to their human-like features and big eyes. Runt gets it the worst due to his smaller size with the big eyes.
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** Shakey. Probably even more so then Humphrey due to his cutesy appearance coupled with his tendençy yo trip up.

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** Shakey. Probably even more so then Humphrey due to his cutesy appearance coupled with his tendençy yo tendency to trip up.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Specific fans would have preferred that the sequels were never made thanks to the DenserAndWackier tone and [[UncannyValley how ugly]] and bratty the pups are.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Specific fans would have preferred that the sequels were never made thanks to the DenserAndWackier tone and [[UncannyValley how ugly]] ugly and bratty the pups are.



* UncannyValley: The animation really doesn’t look very great...

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* UncannyValley: UnintentionalUncannyValley: The animation really doesn’t look very great...
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** ''A Howl-iday Adventure'' is this among the fanbase, as it's either seen as a good followup with a decent plot, or a case of {{Sequelitis}} with worse animation. ''The Great Wolf Games'' is even worse off in that regard.

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** ''A Howl-iday Adventure'' is this among the fanbase, as it's either seen as a good followup follow-up with a decent plot, or a case of {{Sequelitis}} with worse animation. ''The Great Wolf Games'' is even worse off in that regard.



* CriticProof: The film has a [[http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alpha_and_omega/ 16% rating]] on Website/RottenTomatoes, a [[http://www.metacritic.com/movie/alpha-and-omega 36 out of 100]] on [=MetaCritic=] and a [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1213012/ 5.3]] on Website/{{IMDb}}. Yet the move was a modest hit and it got 7 sequels.

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* CriticProof: The film has a [[http://www.[[https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alpha_and_omega/ 16% rating]] on Website/RottenTomatoes, a [[http://www.[[https://www.metacritic.com/movie/alpha-and-omega 36 out of 100]] on [=MetaCritic=] Metacritic and a [[http://www.[[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1213012/ 5.3]] on Website/{{IMDb}}. Yet the move movie was a modest hit and it got 7 seven sequels.
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* CriticProof: The film has a [[http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alpha_and_omega/ 16% rating]] on Website/RottenTomatoes, a [[http://www.metacritic.com/movie/alpha-and-omega 36 out of 100]] on [=MetaCritic=] and a [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1213012/ 5.3]] on Website/{{IMDb}}. Yet, as exemplified by the lengthy entries here, it still has quite a thriving fanbase.

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* CriticProof: The film has a [[http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alpha_and_omega/ 16% rating]] on Website/RottenTomatoes, a [[http://www.metacritic.com/movie/alpha-and-omega 36 out of 100]] on [=MetaCritic=] and a [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1213012/ 5.3]] on Website/{{IMDb}}. Yet, as exemplified by Yet the lengthy entries here, move was a modest hit and it still has quite a thriving fanbase.got 7 sequels.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The Nintendo DS video game adaptation of the first film is nothing to howl home about between its incredibly repetitive set of minigames, lackluster presentation, and the fact [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking you can't use profanity when entering your name]] as [=YouTube=] Dumbsville found out in his review of it.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The Nintendo DS video game adaptation of the first film is nothing to howl home about between its incredibly repetitive set of minigames, lackluster presentation, and the fact [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking you can't can't]] [[VideoGamePerversityPrevention use profanity when entering your name]] as [=YouTube=] Dumbsville found out in his review of it.
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* ClicheStorm: Entire movie in a nutshell: Male falls in love with a female. Male realizes he can't be with the aforementioned female because their love is forbidden due to them being different (in this case, on diffrent ends of a hierarchal spectrum, essentially "unpopular guy falls for popular girl"). Male and female get captured, wake up in a new location, and have to find their way home. Then throw in a bunch of kiddie humor during their adventure. Male and female finally arrive home, but [[spoiler:the female dies. [[DisneyDeath Oh wait, she didn't actually die]]. Male and female, despite their differences, fall in love, and live HappilyEverAfter. The end.]] '''''AND''''' there's a direct-to-video sequel where they have 3 children.

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* ClicheStorm: Entire movie in a nutshell: Male falls in love with a female. Male realizes he can't be with the aforementioned female because their love is forbidden due to them being different (in this case, on diffrent ends of a hierarchal spectrum, essentially "unpopular guy falls for popular girl"). Male and female get captured, wake up in a new location, and have to find their way home. Then throw in a bunch of kiddie humor during their adventure. Male and female finally arrive home, but [[spoiler:the female dies. [[DisneyDeath Oh wait, she didn't actually die]]. Male and female, despite their differences, fall in love, and live HappilyEverAfter. The end.]] '''''AND''''' ''AND'' there's a direct-to-video sequel where they have 3 children.
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* ClicheStorm: Entire movie in a nutshell: Male falls in love with a female. Male realizes he can't be with the aforementioned female because their love is forbidden due to them being different. Male and female get captured, wake up in a new location, and have to find their way home. Then throw in a bunch of kiddie humor during their adventure. Male and female finally arrive home, but [[spoiler:the female dies. [[DisneyDeath Oh wait, she didn't actually die]]. Male and female, despite their differences, fall in love, and live HappilyEverAfter. The end.]] '''''AND''''' there's a direct-to-video sequel where they have 3 children.

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* ClicheStorm: Entire movie in a nutshell: Male falls in love with a female. Male realizes he can't be with the aforementioned female because their love is forbidden due to them being different.different (in this case, on diffrent ends of a hierarchal spectrum, essentially "unpopular guy falls for popular girl"). Male and female get captured, wake up in a new location, and have to find their way home. Then throw in a bunch of kiddie humor during their adventure. Male and female finally arrive home, but [[spoiler:the female dies. [[DisneyDeath Oh wait, she didn't actually die]]. Male and female, despite their differences, fall in love, and live HappilyEverAfter. The end.]] '''''AND''''' there's a direct-to-video sequel where they have 3 children.
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* AbusiveParents: Who the hell names their kids Stinky and Runt?!
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* FanPreferredPairing: There are a number of fans who like the idea of Runt and Princess becoming mates when [[MayDecemberRomance he gets older]].
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* AbusiveParents: Who the hell names their kids Stinky and Runt?!
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* PopularWithFurries: It's a film series where the main cast are wolves. It's pretty much inevitable.

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* PopularWithFurries: It's a film series where the main cast are wolves. It's pretty much inevitable.How else did it manage to spawn seven sequels?

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