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** The infamous "Red Wedding" is a notorious invoker of this trope - while being an effective plot twist, it [[spoiler:cuts the whole House Stark storyline that was developed from the very first book]], which brings the question if it's worth the time investing into any other character's story arcs.

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** The infamous "Red Wedding" is a notorious invoker of this trope - while being an effective plot twist, it [[spoiler:cuts the whole House Stark storyline that was [[spoiler:concludes a major arc developed from the very first book]], book in a very tragic way]], which brings the question if it's worth the time investing into any other character's story arcs. arcs.


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* HarsherInHindsight: Robb Stark is killed in the Red Wedding, with his last words being "Grey Wind", the name of his Dire Wolf. Come a couple of books later, we find out that a Warg often sends their mind into their animal upon their death (it had previously happened to Orell, but he was already warging into his bird at the time of his death). So, Robb Stark was brutally murdered, warged into Grey Wind, and then a few minutes later was brutally killed ''again''.

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** Fan casting Creator/HenryCavill as multiple characters at the same time, especially both Robert Baratheon and Rhaegar Targaryen.


** Jaime/Brienne is prevalent due to all the BelligerentSexualTension and the fact that they're great foils to each other.

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** Jaime/Brienne is prevalent due to all the BelligerentSexualTension and the fact that they're great foils to each other. There's also the fact that Jaime, alone of almost all the other characters in the series, truly ''respects'' Brienne as both a warrior and a woman. Likewise, Brienne sees (and seems to bring out) the very best in him.


* VindicatedByHistory: ''A Feast for Crows'' and ''A Dance With Dragons'' were criticized for having unnecessary storylines and character [=POVs=] which dragged the main plot. When the [[Series/GameOfThrones TV adaptation]] reached Season 5, some of these storylines and characters were cut or streamlined. However, the "butterfly effect", which George R.R. Martin stated before regarding the small changes in the show, affected the story in the subsequent seasons resulting in some characters acting out of line for the sake of RuleOfDrama and EasyLogistics which would require viewers to have WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief. After the show ended, many fans speculate that the omitted storylines (particularly with Young Griff's and Arianne Martell's storylines) actually do have some importance. By then, several readers began to see the fourth and fifth books in a different light knowing that these storylines would affect the characters in the future books.

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* VindicatedByHistory: ''A Feast for Crows'' and ''A Dance With Dragons'' were criticized for having unnecessary storylines and character [=POVs=] which dragged the main plot. When the [[Series/GameOfThrones TV adaptation]] reached Season 5, some many of these storylines and characters were cut or streamlined. However, cut, streamlined, and altered, leading to the most controversial and divisive seasons of the show. Many realized just how intricate Martin's writing really was, since the "butterfly effect", which George R.R. Martin stated before regarding effect" caused by removing and altering these beats radically altered the small changes in show and the show, affected the story in the subsequent seasons resulting in some characters acting out of line beyond recognition, while also cheapening the verisimilitude for the sake of RuleOfDrama and EasyLogistics which would require viewers to have WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief. After the show ended, many As such, fans speculate realize that the omitted storylines (particularly with Young Griff's seemingly meandering plots written by Martin are indeed important and Arianne Martell's storylines) actually do have some importance. By then, several essential for the WorldBuilding and overall denouement. The fact that new readers began came to see the fourth and fifth books in a different light knowing that these storylines would affect with all five published, and without the characters long waits in the future books.interim has also made the reception to these works fare better over time.


* VindicatedByHistory: ''A Feast for Crows'' and ''A Dance With Dragons'' were criticized for having unnecessary storylines and character [=POVs=] which dragged the main plot. when the [[Series/GameOfThrones TV adaptation]] reached Season 5, some of these storylines and characters were cut and streamlined. However, the "butterfly effect", which George R.R. Martin stated before regarding the small changes in the show, affected the story in the subsequent seasons resulting to some characters acting out of line for the sake of RuleOfDrama and EasyLogistics which would require viewers for WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief. After the show ended, many fans speculate that the omitted storylines (particularly with Young Griff's and Arianne Martell's storylines) actually do have some importance. By then, several readers see the fourth and fifth books in a different light knowing that these storylines would affect the characters in the future books.

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* VindicatedByHistory: ''A Feast for Crows'' and ''A Dance With Dragons'' were criticized for having unnecessary storylines and character [=POVs=] which dragged the main plot. when When the [[Series/GameOfThrones TV adaptation]] reached Season 5, some of these storylines and characters were cut and or streamlined. However, the "butterfly effect", which George R.R. Martin stated before regarding the small changes in the show, affected the story in the subsequent seasons resulting to in some characters acting out of line for the sake of RuleOfDrama and EasyLogistics which would require viewers for to have WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief. After the show ended, many fans speculate that the omitted storylines (particularly with Young Griff's and Arianne Martell's storylines) actually do have some importance. By then, several readers began to see the fourth and fifth books in a different light knowing that these storylines would affect the characters in the future books.

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* VindicatedByHistory: ''A Feast for Crows'' and ''A Dance With Dragons'' were criticized for having unnecessary storylines and character [=POVs=] which dragged the main plot. when the [[Series/GameOfThrones TV adaptation]] reached Season 5, some of these storylines and characters were cut and streamlined. However, the "butterfly effect", which George R.R. Martin stated before regarding the small changes in the show, affected the story in the subsequent seasons resulting to some characters acting out of line for the sake of RuleOfDrama and EasyLogistics which would require viewers for WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief. After the show ended, many fans speculate that the omitted storylines (particularly with Young Griff's and Arianne Martell's storylines) actually do have some importance. By then, several readers see the fourth and fifth books in a different light knowing that these storylines would affect the characters in the future books.

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* AudienceColoringAdaptation: The popular HBO adaptation has led to some reprints being sold as the ''Game of Thrones series'' and not ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' though Martin has taken some steps to correct and redress that, for instance commissioning a TruerToTheText [[Literature/TheWorldOfIceAndFire illustration]] of the book-version of the Iron Throne to counter the HBO take which is much smaller and simpler. It also became less of an issue once it became widely known that the show after the first four seasons became a CompressedAdaptation and stopped faithfully adapting Books 4 and 5 to barrel through on its own finish.


** The Red Wedding caused much of House Frey to cross the line, especilly [[spoiler: Walder Frey. He orchestrated the massacre out of spite and laughed while it happened (not to mention that murdering a guest under your roof is considered one of the most despicable and dishonorable things a person can do in Westeros). However, the mastermind behind the Red Wedding was Tywin Lannister, and Roose Bolton was also involved, but both of them had ''already'' crossed the MoralEventHorizon]].

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** The Red Wedding caused much of House Frey to cross the line, especilly [[spoiler: Walder Frey. He orchestrated the massacre out of spite and laughed while it happened (not to mention that murdering a guest under your roof is considered one of the most despicable and dishonorable things a person can do in Westeros). However, the mastermind behind the Red Wedding was Tywin Lannister, and Roose Bolton was also involved, but both of them had ''already'' crossed the MoralEventHorizon]].Moral Event Horizon]].


* MagnificentBastard: Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers is one of the Great Bastards of King Aegon IV. Siding with his brother Daeron over his rebellious brother Daemon Blackfyre, Bloodraven arranged Daemon's death at the Redgrass Field and consolidated his own power over the Seven Kingdoms as the King's Hand. At the Ashvale Tournament, Bloodraven infiltrates a Blackfyre plot and sees it dismantled with no effort, executing or punishing the rebellious lords, while treating his young cousin Aegon--or Egg--with respect and even affection. Later securing the throne for Egg by treacherously having a Blackfyre throne claimant murdered, Bloodraven allows himself to be sent to the Wall where he later uses the chance to become the final Greenseer, guiding Bran Stark to him to become his teacher.

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* MagnificentBastard: Despite many characters are TheChessmaster, the only one that truly qualifies is Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers is one of the Great Bastards of King Aegon IV. Siding with his brother Daeron over his rebellious brother Daemon Blackfyre, Bloodraven arranged Daemon's death at the Redgrass Field and consolidated his own power over the Seven Kingdoms as the King's Hand. At the Ashvale Tournament, Bloodraven infiltrates a Blackfyre plot and sees it dismantled with no effort, executing or punishing the rebellious lords, while treating his young cousin Aegon--or Egg--with respect and even affection. Later securing the throne for Egg by treacherously having a Blackfyre throne claimant murdered, Bloodraven allows himself to be sent to the Wall where he later uses the chance to become the final Greenseer, guiding Bran Stark to him to become his teacher.


* CommonKnowledge: It's widely known across the internet and it was joked about in films such as ''Film/LoganLucky'' that Creator/GeorgeRRMartin in general, and ASOIAF in particular takes too long to publish because the author writes too slowly. This is because of the lengthy ScheduleSlip between Books 3-4, Books 4-5, and Books 5-6 (which is still TBD six years and counting).

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* CommonKnowledge: It's widely known across the internet and it was joked about in films such as ''Film/LoganLucky'' that Creator/GeorgeRRMartin in general, and ASOIAF in particular takes too long to publish because the author writes too slowly. This is because of the lengthy ScheduleSlip between Books 3-4, Books 4-5, and Books 5-6 (which is still TBD six seven years and counting).

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* MisaimedFandom: There are many fans who cry foul at the [[Series/GameOfThrones HBO series']] portrayal of Dany and Drogo's marriage night, which is unquestionably rape in the show but a bit greyer in the books, where the pair share some tender interactions before getting into it. This reaction ignores the fact that it's basically rape no matter what since Dany didn't agree to the marriage, and even in the books, every ''other'' night of intercourse they have ''is'' given a more stereotypically rape-like portrayal (Dany explicitly weeps from the pain on some occasions) until Dany has her handmaidens teach her some techniques so she can gain some power in the bedroom.

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** Ser Jaime Lannister is almost universally reviled by the people of Westeros for his BodyguardBetrayal of Aerys II, in addition to a number of other horrible crimes and general {{Jerkass}} behavior. For the first two books, fans also had this attitude. When finally became a [[SympatheticPOV P.O.V. character]] and [[SympatheticMurderer the story behind his killing of Aerys was revealed]] during his journeys with Brienne, this completely reversed. While still despised in-universe by all but a few, [[TheAtoner Jaime's additional desire to begin atoning for his other crimes]] has made him one of the most beloved and sympathetic characters in the story.

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