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With how much of these examples are because of Eggsy, you might as well call the movie ''[[IdiotPlot Kingsman: Eggsy Fucks Up]]''.
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With how much of these examples are because of Eggsy, you might as well call the movie ''[[IdiotPlot Kingsman: ''Kingsman: Eggsy Fucks Up]]''.
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* So you're a top secret intelligence agency that is so secretive that you can't even tell your best friends or your girlfriend's parents.\\
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* So So, you're a top secret intelligence agency that is so secretive that you can't even tell your best friends or your girlfriend's parents.\\
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'''You'd Expect''': Whiskey would immediately kill Eggsy and Harry, he must have seen the mass amount of dead soldiers when he entered. Not only that but both Eggsy and Harry are highly trained agents, determined to save the world, they outnumber him and they had killed Poppy's militia. Also Whiskey doesn't need Harry or Eggsy alive so he shouldn't bother holding either of them hostage and killing them would have made Whiskey's plan alot easier since it's just a matter of waiting it out.\\
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'''You'd Expect''': Whiskey would immediately kill Eggsy and Harry, he must have seen the mass amount of dead soldiers when he entered. Not only that but both Eggsy and Harry are highly trained agents, determined to save the world, they outnumber him and they had killed Poppy's militia. Also Whiskey doesn't need Harry or Eggsy alive so he shouldn't bother holding either of them hostage and killing them would have made Whiskey's plan alot a lot easier since it's just a matter of waiting it out.\\
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'''Instead''': She does absolutely nothing, meaning that Eggsy and Harry are caught off-guard and forced into a prolonged fight with Whiskey at a time when victims of the tainted drugs are ''already dying'' and every minute counts. And, despite knowing about the tragic circumstances surrounding the death of Whiskey's wife, it never even even occurred to her that such an event (''especially'' after it was used to break his amnesia and was thus a very open wound) might make Whiskey unreliable in a situation like this.
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'''Instead''': She does absolutely nothing, meaning that Eggsy and Harry are caught off-guard and forced into a prolonged fight with Whiskey at a time when victims of the tainted drugs are ''already dying'' and every minute counts. And, despite knowing about the tragic circumstances surrounding the death of Whiskey's wife, it never even even occurred to her that such an event (''especially'' after it was used to break his amnesia and was thus a very open wound) might make Whiskey unreliable in a situation like this.
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'''Instead''': They continue to approach him and watch him sing so they can get blown up.
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'''Instead''': They continue to approach him and watch him sing so they can get blown up.up.
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'''Instead''': Whiskey uses his lasso to hold Harry as hostage then tells Eggsy to slide the computer to him. When Eggsy distracts Whiskey with his gadget, Whiskey puts up a decent fight but he is killed when the pair force him into Poppy's meat grinder. Even if Whiskey was hesitant to kill Eggsy due to the film's implications of having LikeASonToMe affections towards him, there's no reason for Whiskey to not kill Harry on the spot.\\
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'''Instead''': Whiskey uses his lasso to hold Harry as hostage then tells Eggsy to slide the computer to him. When Eggsy distracts Whiskey with his gadget, Whiskey puts up a decent fight but he is killed when the pair force him into Poppy's meat grinder. Even if Whiskey was hesitant to kill Eggsy due to the film's implications of having LikeASonToMe affections towards him, there's no reason for Whiskey to not kill Harry on the spot.\\
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* With how much of these examples are because of Eggsy, you might as well call the movie ''[[IdiotPlot Kingsman: Eggsy Fucks Up]]'':
** Eggsy winds up with Charlie's robotic arm in his taxi after the opening fight.\\
** Eggsy winds up with Charlie's robotic arm in his taxi after the opening fight.\\
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* Eggsy winds up with Charlie's robotic arm in his taxi after the opening fight.\\
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** Eggsy asks one of his friends to dogsit JB.\\
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** In the middle of a mission, Eggsy has to plant a tracker inside Charlie's girlfriend by sleeping with her.\\
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** Harry is resurrected and his memory has recovered, but his coordination is off and he still has occasional hallucinations.\\
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** When infiltrating one of Poppy's labs, Eggsy is surrounded by ''crates'' of the antidote.\\
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** Eggsy ''knows'' that Charlie and Clara are gonna be at the lab since it's their phone conversation that led him and the Statesmen there.\\
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** Harry and Eggsy have successfully taken down all of Poppy's goons, and only Poppy herself is standing between them and releasing the antidotes. With Poppy seemingly not cooperating, the agents then bring out their trump card: Merlin's reverse-engineered virus created from Poppy's own weapon.\\
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'''Instead''': Charlie, who is shown to be nothing but smug, proud and a DirtyCoward who spills secrets as soon as he sees himself in danger, is allowed to leave the organization with all knowledge of how Kingsman works intact [[note]]It's heavily implied that he was [[MoleInCharge Arthur's]] nominated candidate but that raises even more questions about why nobody bothered to double check if Charlie was no longer a threat[[/note]]. This would eventually allow him to know where to attack Eggsy (the Kingsman tailor shop), what to get vital information from (a touchscreen in Eggsy's cab), and eventually show Poppy which locations to launch missiles at, effectively putting Kingsman into endangered species territory.
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'''Instead''': Charlie, who is shown to be nothing but smug, proud and a DirtyCoward who spills secrets as soon as he sees himself in danger, is allowed to leave the organization with all knowledge of how Kingsman works intact [[note]]It's heavily implied that he was [[MoleInCharge Arthur's]] nominated candidate but that raises even more questions about why nobody bothered to double check if Charlie was no longer a threat[[/note]]. This would eventually allow him to know where to attack Eggsy (the Kingsman tailor shop), what to get vital information from (a touchscreen in Eggsy's cab), car), and eventually show Poppy which locations to launch missiles at, effectively putting Kingsman into endangered species territory.
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'''Instead''': He announces himself and sacrifices himself to kill 4 guards. A noble gesture but one that could have been avoided to make the mission easier. Not only that but Merlin's basically rang the alarm for every soldier in the vicinity, giving them time to arm themselves and prolong Harry & Eggsy's limited time to cure the addicts.
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'''Instead''': He announces himself and sacrifices himself to kill 4 guards. A noble gesture but one that could have been avoided to make the mission easier. Not only that but Merlin's basically rang the alarm for every soldier in the vicinity, giving them time to arm themselves and prolong Harry & Eggsy's fight within Poppyland, hampering them in their limited time to cure the addicts.
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'''Instead''': Their reveal mechanism is discovered within a few minutes by his friend, who starts playing around with a disguised hand grenade and nearly blows himself up in the process.
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'''Instead''': Their His Kingsman arsenal's reveal mechanism is discovered within a few minutes by his friend, who starts playing around with a disguised hand grenade and nearly blows himself up in the process.
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'''Instead''': Their reveal mechanism is discovered within a few minutes by his friend, who starts playing around with hand grenade and nearly blows himself up in the process.
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'''Instead''': Their reveal mechanism is discovered within a few minutes by his friend, who starts playing around with a disguised hand grenade and nearly blows himself up in the process.
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'''Instead''': They slowly walk towards him and allow him to kill them.
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'''Instead''': They slowly walk towards him and allow him to kill them.them.
* The guards see Merlin nod at something to both his left and right.\\
'''You'd Expect''': For them to realize this man might not be alone, stop, split up, and seek out his accomplices.\\
'''Instead''': They continue to approach him and watch him sing so they can get blown up.
* The guards see Merlin nod at something to both his left and right.\\
'''You'd Expect''': For them to realize this man might not be alone, stop, split up, and seek out his accomplices.\\
'''Instead''': They continue to approach him and watch him sing so they can get blown up.
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'''Instead''': Charlie, who is shown to be nothing but smug, proud and a DirtyCoward who spills secrets as soon as he sees himself in danger, is allowed to leave the organization with all knowledge of how Kingsman works intact. This would eventually allow him to know where to attack Eggsy (the Kingsman tailor shop), what to get vital information from (a touchscreen in Eggsy's cab), and eventually show Poppy which locations to launch missiles at, effectively putting Kingsman into endangered species territory.
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'''Instead''': Charlie, who is shown to be nothing but smug, proud and a DirtyCoward who spills secrets as soon as he sees himself in danger, is allowed to leave the organization with all knowledge of how Kingsman works intact.intact [[note]]It's heavily implied that he was [[MoleInCharge Arthur's]] nominated candidate but that raises even more questions about why nobody bothered to double check if Charlie was no longer a threat[[/note]]. This would eventually allow him to know where to attack Eggsy (the Kingsman tailor shop), what to get vital information from (a touchscreen in Eggsy's cab), and eventually show Poppy which locations to launch missiles at, effectively putting Kingsman into endangered species territory.
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Corrected "would of" to "would have"... three times in one sentence. Yeesh. Consistent at any rate...
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'''Alternatively''': Merlin would let himself get captured so he can be saved from the landmine. When Eggsy and Harry start fighting the guards, Merlin can get himself to safety or start fighting. He wouldn't of known that they were capturing him but he would of at least picked up on the fact that the guards would of killed him on the spot if they were ordered to.\\
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'''Alternatively''': Merlin would let himself get captured so he can be saved from the landmine. When Eggsy and Harry start fighting the guards, Merlin can get himself to safety or start fighting. He wouldn't of have known that they were capturing him but he would of have at least picked up on the fact that the guards would of have killed him on the spot if they were ordered to.\\
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'''Instead''': They send Eggsy Whiskey and Harry.
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'''Instead''': They send Eggsy Eggsy, Whiskey and Harry.
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It was the whip that Whiskey used to choke Eggsy, not the lasso.
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'''In Addition''': At one point during the fight he has Eggsy in his lasso, which is tightly around his neck and Eggsy is clearly having trouble removing it and breathing. Rather than just activating it and decapitating him, Whiskey throws it into the mincer. Giving Eggsy a chance of surviving and removing Whiskey's integral weapon that's essential for his own survival, since it gave him a higher chance of succeeding against both Eggsy and Harry.
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Sorry, missed a bit
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'''Instead''': Whiskey uses his lasso to hold Harry as hostage then tells Eggsy to slide the computer to him. When Eggsy distracts Whiskey with his gadget, Whiskey puts up a decent fight but he is killed when the pair force him into Poppy's meat grinder. Even if Whiskey was hesitant to kill Eggsy due to the film's implications of having LikeASonToMe affections towards him, there's no reason for Whiskey to not kill Harry on the spot.
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'''Instead''': Whiskey uses his lasso to hold Harry as hostage then tells Eggsy to slide the computer to him. When Eggsy distracts Whiskey with his gadget, Whiskey puts up a decent fight but he is killed when the pair force him into Poppy's meat grinder. Even if Whiskey was hesitant to kill Eggsy due to the film's implications of having LikeASonToMe affections towards him, there's no reason for Whiskey to not kill Harry on the spot.\\
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I only just realised this
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'''In Addition''': At one point during the fight he has Eggsy in his lasso, which is tightly around his neck and Eggsy is clearly having trouble removing it and breathing. Rather than just activating it and decapitating him, Whiskey throws it into the mincer. Giving Eggsy a chance of surviving and removing Whiskey's integral weapon that's essential for his own survival, since it gave him a higher chance of succeeding against both Eggsy and Harry.
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These are what are known as "Justifying Edits", and they're not supposed to be here. If you feel an "idiotic" decision can be justified, you can generally just remove the offending example and put the justification here,
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*** This one is partially understandable when you remember that Harry is like a father to Eggsy and he just got him back. Eggsy's insistence to bring Harry along on the mission is his means of bonding with his father figure. Still, though, Eggsy let emotion get the better of him and made a poor choice, later admitting to his mistake. To strengthen this idea further, this was foreshadowed by Merlin earlier as he scolded Eggsy for letting his emotions get the better of him.
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*** To be fair, even if Eggsy had sent Whiskey to get the antidote, it probably wouldn't have worked anyway. Since Whiskey is a rogue agent, he probably would've done something to either destroy the antidote and make it look like an accident or done something to alert Poppy's men of their presence, which could've potentially led to Harry and Eggsy's deaths.
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i appreciate you agreeing with me but that was just repeat of what I wrote
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'''Alternatively-Alternatively''': Whiskey could just shoot the briefcase containing the computer, or he could have just immediately cut it (and Harry) in half with his lasso. It's never established as bulletproof or anything, and he has no reason to want or need it intact.\\
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* So Statesman jus found out about Poppy's plan.\\
'''You'd Expect''' for them to send every able bodied agent they can in order to stop her.\\
'''Instead''' They send Eggsy Whiskey and Harry.
'''You'd Expect''' for them to send every able bodied agent they can in order to stop her.\\
'''Instead''' They send Eggsy Whiskey and Harry.
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* So Statesman jus just found out about Poppy's plan.\\
'''You'dExpect''' for Expect''': For them to send every able bodied agent they can in order to stop her.\\
'''Instead''' '''Instead''': They send Eggsy Whiskey and Harry.
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'''You'd Expect''' for him to simply stay hidden and wait for the others to help him after the fight.\\
'''Instead''' he announces himself and sacrifices himself to kill 4 guards.
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'''You'd Expect''' for Expect''': For him to simply stay hidden and wait for the others to help him after the fight.\\
'''Instead''' '''Alternatively''': Merlin would let himself get captured so he can be saved from the landmine. When Eggsy and Harry start fighting the guards, Merlin can get himself to safety or start fighting. He wouldn't of known that they were capturing him but he would of at least picked up on the fact that the guards would of killed him on the spot if they were ordered to.\\
'''Instead''': He announces himself and sacrifices himself to kill 4guards.guards. A noble gesture but one that could have been avoided to make the mission easier. Not only that but Merlin's basically rang the alarm for every soldier in the vicinity, giving them time to arm themselves and prolong Harry & Eggsy's limited time to cure the addicts.
'''Instead''': He announces himself and sacrifices himself to kill 4
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'''You'd Expect''' for them to just shoot Merlin while at long range.\\
'''Instead''' they slowly walk towards him and allow him to kill them.
'''Instead''' they slowly walk towards him and allow him to kill them.
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'''You'd Expect''' for Expect''': For them to just shoot Merlin while at long range.\\
'''Instead''' they '''Instead''': They slowly walk towards him and allow him to kill them.
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'''Instead''' he announces himself and sacrifices himself to kill 4 guards.
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'''Instead''' he announces himself and sacrifices himself to kill 4 guards.guards.
* The guards just saw Merlin attacking another guard.\\
'''You'd Expect''' for them to just shoot Merlin while at long range.\\
'''Instead''' they slowly walk towards him and allow him to kill them.
* The guards just saw Merlin attacking another guard.\\
'''You'd Expect''' for them to just shoot Merlin while at long range.\\
'''Instead''' they slowly walk towards him and allow him to kill them.