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Ran Yakumo! If Maribel eventually becomes Yukari, she's going to outlive her friend by a great margin. Eventually, she finds out about the art of summoning shikigamis, and, with Yuyuko's help, manages to bring Renko's [[OurSoulsAreDifferent spirit]] back as a [[UsefulNotes/{{Onmyodo}} shikigami]], [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming finally reuniting the two after hundreds of years]]. She also made her a {{Kitsune}}, for some reason. Maybe she has a thing for foxgirls?

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Ran Yakumo! If Maribel eventually becomes Yukari, she's going to outlive her friend by a great margin. Eventually, she finds out about the art of summoning shikigamis, and, with Yuyuko's help, manages to bring Renko's [[OurSoulsAreDifferent spirit]] back as a [[UsefulNotes/{{Onmyodo}} shikigami]], [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments finally reuniting the two after hundreds of years]]. She also made her a {{Kitsune}}, for some reason. Maybe she has a thing for foxgirls?


Ran Yakumo! If Maribel eventually becomes Yukari, she's going to outlive her friend by a great margin. Eventually, she finds out about the art of summoning shikigamis, and, with Yuyuko's help, manages to bring Renko's [[OurSoulsAreDifferent spirit]] back as a [[{{Onmyodo}} shikigami]], [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming finally reuniting the two after hundreds of years]]. She also made her a {{Kitsune}}, for some reason. Maybe she has a thing for foxgirls?

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Ran Yakumo! If Maribel eventually becomes Yukari, she's going to outlive her friend by a great margin. Eventually, she finds out about the art of summoning shikigamis, and, with Yuyuko's help, manages to bring Renko's [[OurSoulsAreDifferent spirit]] back as a [[{{Onmyodo}} [[UsefulNotes/{{Onmyodo}} shikigami]], [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming finally reuniting the two after hundreds of years]]. She also made her a {{Kitsune}}, for some reason. Maybe she has a thing for foxgirls?


The shared family name would require neither her nor her kids to take her husband's name, which is fairly rare even in countries less socially conservative than Japan. Not to mention the difference in abilities. Probably an aunt or something

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The shared family name would require neither her nor her kids to take her husband's name, which is fairly rare even in countries less socially conservative than Japan. Not to mention the difference in abilities. Probably an aunt or something
something.
* Or she was a single parent, for any number of reasons. With no husband to erase her family name, Sumireko simply raised her children as Usamis. Any son would have the capacity to carry the name forward into Renko's generation.


This is theories for the ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' CD stories and characters.

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This is are theories for the ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' CD stories and characters.
characters. For the rest of the franchise, see [[WMG/{{Touhou}} here.]]


* The 4th: I belive the fourth and the girl of the group is Alice. I reread a lot of stuff and decided to drop my guess that she was Maribel. There are some nods elsewhere in the canon that points to Alice. Then if so then this could be her new retconned backstory on how she became a Youkai in the first place. I also think that the girl on the cover is Alice, or rather to be more specific, the true Alice (a.k.a. Ex-Alice). Remember the locked grimoire? Yea, if unlocked could result in the release of Alice's full potential. Also, the cross she is seen holding, I don't think it is a regular christian cross but rather a marionette control rod. And another thing, if her old backstory is still canon, then perhaps she was put outside Gensokyou by Shinki maybe to keep her away from magic, with perhaps a dose of amnesia to make sure she doesn't chase it. Then if she already had massive magical knowledge and power when coming into contact with Gensokyou again she would have most likely transformed to a Youkai right away like in the story. One final thing, during the last part she is mentioned to have hanged herself, however all that is stated is that her feet never reached the ground this time. That could imply that ether she started to float or that the rope simply couldn't kill her due to now being a Youkai.

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* The 4th: I belive the fourth and the girl of the group is Alice. I reread a lot of stuff and decided to drop my guess that she was Maribel. There are some nods elsewhere in the canon that points to Alice. Then if so then this could be her new retconned backstory on how she became a Youkai in the first place. I also think that the girl on the cover is Alice, or rather to be more specific, the true Alice (a.k.a. Ex-Alice). Remember the locked grimoire? Yea, if unlocked could result in the release of Alice's full potential. Also, the cross she is seen holding, I don't think it is a regular christian cross but rather a marionette control rod. And another thing, if her old backstory is still canon, then perhaps she was put outside Gensokyou by Shinki maybe to keep her away from magic, with perhaps a dose of amnesia to make sure she doesn't chase it. Then if she already had massive magical knowledge and power when coming into contact with Gensokyou again she would have most likely transformed to a Youkai right away like in the story. One final thing, during the last part she is mentioned to have hanged herself, however all that is stated is that her feet never reached the ground this time. That could imply that ether she started to float or that the rope simply couldn't kill her due to now being a Youkai. Additionally, the whole story is one huge reference to Creator/AgathaChristie and Alice's last name likewise takes inspiration from her.


And secondly and more importantly, it is right after another cycle in the 60 year cycle. So perhaps at 2065 something extremely major happened that lead to countless deaths and made the world where they live into what it is. Perhaps it is some time after the event and the world has started to slowly recover from it.

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And secondly and more importantly, it is right after another cycle in the 60 year Sexagenary cycle. So perhaps at 2065 something extremely major happened that lead to countless deaths and made the world where they live into what it is. Perhaps it is some time after the event and the world has started to slowly recover from it.

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[[WMG: Maribel Hearn is a descendant of Ran Yakumo]]
This troper bases this explanation off of something written on Wikipedia's article about Kitsune, stating that the offspring of humans and Kitsune often bare supernatural qualities that can be passed down onto their own children. Maribel has stated that her supernatural powers are not unique to herself and that she inherited them from her family. Sounds like there's a fox-child somewhere in her ancestry to me. Now, we all know how often Maribel is associated with Yukari, so wouldn't that make her shikigami, Ran, the most likely candidate? After all, Ran is pretty darn old (according to her tails) so it's not entirely far-fetched that she may have conceived a child sometime in her life, who would have been an ancestor of Maribel's. Not to mention, Maribel retains that blonde hair trait. That said, Maribel is mostly likely not ethnically Japanese, but how far back her western ethnicity goes isn't completely known, and a Kitsune like Ran probably could change her ethnicity at will anyway. This could have easily occurred before Ran served Yukari, but seeing as being her shikigami allows Ran to inherit traits from Yukari, then this explanation just fits all the more.
* Alternatively, Renko could be a Kitsune's descendant (and by extension, Sumireko) as Abe no Seimei (an onmyoudo, and by extension, an astrologist) was, in legend, the child of a Kitsune as well. Not to mention she probably retains some of a Kitsune's (and using the computer allegory, a Shikigami's) affinity for math.


I have two reasons for making this guess.
First, it puts it in a reasonable timeframe where Sumireko could be Renko's grandmother.
And secondly and more importantly, it is right after another cycle in the 60 year cycle. So perhaps at 2065 something extremely major happened that lead to countless deaths and made the world where they live into what it is. Perhaps it is some time after the event and the world has started to slowly recover from it.

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I have two reasons for making this guess. \n \\
First, it puts it in a reasonable timeframe where Sumireko could be Renko's grandmother. \n \\
And secondly and more importantly, it is right after another cycle in the 60 year cycle. So perhaps at 2065 something extremely major happened that lead to countless deaths and made the world where they live into what it is. Perhaps it is some time after the event and the world has started to slowly recover from it.it.

[[WMG: Sumireko isn't a direct ancestor of Renko]]
The shared family name would require neither her nor her kids to take her husband's name, which is fairly rare even in countries less socially conservative than Japan. Not to mention the difference in abilities. Probably an aunt or something
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** Considering that Lafcadio Hearn, an influence on Maribel's surname, has Koizumi Yakumo as his Japanese name, this may actually hold water.

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** Considering that Lafcadio Hearn, an influence on Maribel's surname, has Koizumi Yakumo as his Japanese name, this may actually hold water.water.

[[WMG: The future where Maribel and Renko live is some time after 2065.]]
I have two reasons for making this guess.
First, it puts it in a reasonable timeframe where Sumireko could be Renko's grandmother.
And secondly and more importantly, it is right after another cycle in the 60 year cycle. So perhaps at 2065 something extremely major happened that lead to countless deaths and made the world where they live into what it is. Perhaps it is some time after the event and the world has started to slowly recover from it.


[[WMG: ''Dolls in Pseudo Paradise'' is not only canon but also plays a key role in the CD series.]]
As it say's for reasons I will elaborate on below.

[[WMG: The blonde girl in the ''Dolls in Pseudo Paradise'' story and on the cover is Maribel.]]
The girl is specifically mentioned to pass the barrier at the end of the story meaning that a Youkai entered the real world. That crossing could perhaps have lead to some memory or personality problems. If that is the case then Maribel was never human to begin with but simply thought she was, and her strenghening ability is not so much getting stronger as it is regaining strenght. Then there is also the possible connection to the clown. Maribel is named after Lafcadio Hearn, a horror writer, and clowns often being symbols in horror for both trickery and insanity perhaps most famously in ''Literature/{{It}}'' from which the clown appears based on. And as the story has gone on, Maribel now appears to have problems with her sanity.

[[WMG:The girl on the cover of ''Dolls in Pseudo Paradise'' is that same girl mentioned in the story.]]
Another thing is that she might be based on U.N. Owen and her power causes her to appear as a clown to her victims.

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[[WMG: Disecting ''Dolls in Pseudo Paradise'' is not only canon but also plays a key role in the CD series.Paradise''.]]
As it say's for reasons I will elaborate on below.

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Ok, I've taken and removed all my previous guesses and tried to compress them into a single one to try and fully connect the dots.
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The blonde 4th: I belive the fourth and the girl of the group is Alice. I reread a lot of stuff and decided to drop my guess that she was Maribel. There are some nods elsewhere in the ''Dolls in Pseudo Paradise'' story and on the cover is Maribel.]]
The girl is specifically mentioned to pass the barrier at the end of the story meaning
canon that points to Alice. Then if so then this could be her new retconned backstory on how she became a Youkai entered in the real world. That crossing could perhaps have lead to some memory or personality problems. If first place. I also think that is the case then Maribel was never human to begin with but simply thought she was, and her strenghening ability is not so much getting stronger as it is regaining strenght. Then there is also the possible connection to the clown. Maribel is named after Lafcadio Hearn, a horror writer, and clowns often being symbols in horror for both trickery and insanity perhaps most famously in ''Literature/{{It}}'' from which the clown appears based on. And as the story has gone on, Maribel now appears to have problems with her sanity.

[[WMG:The
girl on the cover is Alice, or rather to be more specific, the true Alice (a.k.a. Ex-Alice). Remember the locked grimoire? Yea, if unlocked could result in the release of ''Dolls Alice's full potential. Also, the cross she is seen holding, I don't think it is a regular christian cross but rather a marionette control rod. And another thing, if her old backstory is still canon, then perhaps she was put outside Gensokyou by Shinki maybe to keep her away from magic, with perhaps a dose of amnesia to make sure she doesn't chase it. Then if she already had massive magical knowledge and power when coming into contact with Gensokyou again she would have most likely transformed to a Youkai right away like in Pseudo Paradise'' the story. One final thing, during the last part she is mentioned to have hanged herself, however all that is stated is that her feet never reached the ground this time. That could imply that ether she started to float or that the rope simply couldn't kill her due to now being a Youkai.
* The Clown: I think the clown is most likely a doll (possibly sentient). This one is of course something I link to the True Alice mentioned above, perhaps born at the
same girl time she her self was reborn. If it is a doll then of course it would tie into her doll theme and the reason I think it is sentient is that it seemed to act on it's own without her direct input. And if so that would suggest a rather sadistic personality, or at the very least extremely overprotective of it's owner. Also the reason I think it is linked to her is that the 4th was the only one who never once encountered it. As for appearance I guess it has some traits similar to the 4th and is female (should seem kinda obvious since this is Touhou) based on the fact that one of the honest men found it [[SexyJester beautiful and seemingly fell in love with it]] or something, so unless he was gay then that is the most likely conclusion.
* The Title: This one should be the easiest to understand. The Pseudo Paradise part simple refers to Gensokyou but as a CrapsaccharineWorld. The dolls part however most likely refers to the honest men suggesting that they where either strung along all the time by some single puppet master or if they where flat out PeoplePuppets.
The one thing that I am still uncertain of is the timeframe of which the story is set since the date is crossed out and therefore it is uncertain if it is Reimu that is the shrine maiden
mentioned in the story.]]
Another thing
story or if it is that she might be based on U.N. Owen and one of her power causes her to appear as a clown to her victims.
ancestors.


This is theories for the CD stories and characters.

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This is theories for the ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' CD stories and characters.


This is theories for the CD stories.

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This is theories for the CD stories.
stories and characters.

[[AC:Dolls in Pseudo Paradise]]



The girl is specifically mentioned to pass the barrier at the end of the story meaning that a Youkai entered the real world. That crossing could perhaps have lead to some memory or personality problems. If that is the case then Maribel was never human to begin with but simply thought she was, and her strenghening ability is not so much getting stronger as it is regaining strenght. Then there is also the possible connection to the clown. Maribel is named after Lafcadio Hearn, a horror writer, and clowns often being symbols in horror for both trickery and insanity perhaps most famously in ''Literature/{{It}}'' from which the clown appears based on. And as the story has gone on, Maribel now appears to have problems with her sanity.

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The girl is specifically mentioned to pass the barrier at the end of the story meaning that a Youkai entered the real world. That crossing could perhaps have lead to some memory or personality problems. If that is the case then Maribel was never human to begin with but simply thought she was, and her strenghening ability is not so much getting stronger as it is regaining strenght. Then there is also the possible connection to the clown. Maribel is named after Lafcadio Hearn, a horror writer, and clowns often being symbols in horror for both trickery and insanity perhaps most famously in ''Literature/{{It}}'' from which the clown appears based on. And as the story has gone on, Maribel now appears to have problems with her sanity.sanity.

[[WMG:The girl on the cover of ''Dolls in Pseudo Paradise'' is that same girl mentioned in the story.]]
Another thing is that she might be based on U.N. Owen and her power causes her to appear as a clown to her victims.

[[AC:Maribel & Renko]]

[[WMG:Maribel and Renko are direct "real-world" analogues to Marisa and Reimu, respectively.]]
One's a flighty blonde with some sort of connection to magic, whose romanized name begins with "Mari." The other's a Japanese brunette with a certain interest in how her world works, and the hiragana of her name begins with "Re." The two are more or less inseperable, except when circumstance dictates. Which pair am I talking about?
* Renko and Maribel, obviously. Reimu isn't all that interested in how the world works, so long as it isn't bothering her.

[[WMG: Marisa is connected to Maribel Hearn and/or Yukari Yakumo]]
On the drama CD "Dolls in Pseudo Paradise", the character described in the story attached to "Reincarnation" is considered to be Mima, and her daughter is then Marisa. ''But Mima looks nothing like Marisa''. Then who could it be? Why not look at the [[http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki/wiki/Maribel_Han two]] [[http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki/wiki/Yukari_Yakumo people]] with uncanny resemblances. Descent from the human half of the youkai of boundaries would explain some of Marisa's potential.

[[WMG:Renko is...]]
Ran Yakumo! If Maribel eventually becomes Yukari, she's going to outlive her friend by a great margin. Eventually, she finds out about the art of summoning shikigamis, and, with Yuyuko's help, manages to bring Renko's [[OurSoulsAreDifferent spirit]] back as a [[{{Onmyodo}} shikigami]], [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming finally reuniting the two after hundreds of years]]. She also made her a {{Kitsune}}, for some reason. Maybe she has a thing for foxgirls?

Renko's ability to determine her location and the current time from the moon and stars could actually be highly advanced mathematics, but she just hasn't figured it out yet; this would also give an excuse for her power not growing stronger: it has, but she's unable to use the full extent of it until she realises that it's actually the ability to perform complex calculations in her head at high speeds. She already has her own ability, putting her on a level above normal humans; if she was to be turned into a youkai, this would likely translate over as increased magical powers, possibly enough to summon her own shikigami. It could be argued that Chen was someone she met after Maribel was TrappedInThePast, who passed on at some point; she then summoned her friend's spirit as a shikigami like Maribel!Yukari did for her.

[[WMG: Renko Usami is a men's rights activist.]]
That fedora(-like hat).

[[WMG: Maribel and Renko's world is actually from a ''distant'' past.]]
In her chapter in Cage of Lunatic Runagate, Watatsuki no Toyohime mentioned having observed lives coming out of the sea, implying she and the Lunarians existed before humans. However, it is also implied that Lunarians were originally humans, creating a paradox.

However, what if, they were humans from the past? Their world was so technologically advanced that every mystery of the world has been solved, and even the supernatural can be explained by science. Because they have known everything, the humans forgot their fear and became arrogant and careless. Through this, an ApocalypseHow ranging from Class 3 to Class 5 happened, destroying their civilization.

There were survivors, however. These survivors, horrified of the apocalypse, seeks a pure land freed from death and impurity: The Moon. They traveled to the moon and built a pure, deathless civilization there. We know them as the Lunarians. Among these was Eirin Yagokoro.

The apocalypse didn't end all life, however. Some species survived, and continued to live and evolve, effectvely resetting the world. Humans once again rise to sapience and started civilization again.

The Lunarians weren't the only survivors. There were other group of people that refused to go to the moon, and instead stayed on Earth. Knowing that the lack of fear of the unknown was what brought the old world's destruction, they turned themselves into the 'unknowns' themselves, and kept the humans from finding out the secrets of the 'unknown'. They were then called gods, demons, monsters, youkai, etc.

Yet, human civilization keeps advancing. Realizing humans would soon know of the 'unknowns' at that rate, one of them, erected a barrier to keep the unknowns as unknowns. The land inside the barrier, where humans keep fearing the unknown, is acting as a failsafe in case that the humans outside repeat the mistake and destroyed the world again. The one who came up with this was Maribel Hearn, now adopting the name of Yukari Yakumo.

** Considering that Lafcadio Hearn, an influence on Maribel's surname, has Koizumi Yakumo as his Japanese name, this may actually hold water.

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This is theories for the CD stories.

[[WMG: ''Dolls in Pseudo Paradise'' is not only canon but also plays a key role in the CD series.]]
As it say's for reasons I will elaborate on below.

[[WMG: The blonde girl in the ''Dolls in Pseudo Paradise'' story and on the cover is Maribel.]]
The girl is specifically mentioned to pass the barrier at the end of the story meaning that a Youkai entered the real world. That crossing could perhaps have lead to some memory or personality problems. If that is the case then Maribel was never human to begin with but simply thought she was, and her strenghening ability is not so much getting stronger as it is regaining strenght. Then there is also the possible connection to the clown. Maribel is named after Lafcadio Hearn, a horror writer, and clowns often being symbols in horror for both trickery and insanity perhaps most famously in ''Literature/{{It}}'' from which the clown appears based on. And as the story has gone on, Maribel now appears to have problems with her sanity.

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