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[[WMG: If the show gets revived somehow, one storyline will involve the lycanthropic tree]]
The one Josh whacked off on during his Quickening? Yeah, a magical STD spreading among a forest can't be good for the ecosystem.
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[[WMG: Upon her transfer to Underworld branch, Zelda is assigned to be Penny's intern]]
And they get along just fine. Shame it wasn't shown in the epilogue.
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* Jossed: they don't even know about each other.
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* Zig-zagged: [[spoiler:The far-off land is indeed Earth, but the gate is of the Underworld. The Dark King wants to open it, which would free all the dead and kill everything alive. Since his immortality is tied to the Fillory itself, the gang decides to destroy it completely themselves, while saving people in the Ark.]]
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* Jossed: [[spoiler:He's Rupert Chatwin]].
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[[WMG: The 'far-off land' in the quest-song is Earth, and the 'gate' is portal-clock.]]
Basically, the quest implies that people of Earth fuck up Fillory whenever they show up, and the solution is to cut all ties between the worlds.
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* [[spoiler:The storage was stolen by Marina, who wanted to exploit the Convergence, but so far she gave no indications of alliance with the Dark King.]]
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* Not protesting the theory itself, but Earth descent is now moot, since both Fillorian gods are dead and cannot enforce the law anymore.
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* Not protesting the theory itself, theory, but Earth descent as a royal requirement is now moot, since both Fillorian gods are dead and cannot enforce the law anymore.anymore.
* [[spoiler:King himself in episode 4 confirms he's of Earthian descent and knows at least some of modern concepts.]]
[[WMG: The Dark King and whoever stole the book storage are working together]]
They know exactly what and where it's going on with surges and want to exploit it.
* [[spoiler:King himself in episode 4 confirms he's of Earthian descent and knows at least some of modern concepts.]]
[[WMG: The Dark King and whoever stole the book storage are working together]]
They know exactly what and where it's going on with surges and want to exploit it.
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* Not protesting the theory itself, but Earth descent is now moot, since both Fillorian gods are dead and cannot enforce the law anymore.
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[[WMG: The Dark King is Quentin's descendant]]
During Quentin and Eliot's life together, Quentin had a child with the peach lady. That child is still roaming around, and lived through all the crap in Fillory with the Beast and the wars and so on. He'd be at an age to have kids of his own at some stage during those events. And being the offspring of an Earthborn person, quite possibly has a claim to the throne.
During Quentin and Eliot's life together, Quentin had a child with the peach lady. That child is still roaming around, and lived through all the crap in Fillory with the Beast and the wars and so on. He'd be at an age to have kids of his own at some stage during those events. And being the offspring of an Earthborn person, quite possibly has a claim to the throne.
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It teleports with noticeable sound like them, while gods appear seamlessly, as if they always standed there. Though no clue as to how that might affect plot.
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It teleports with noticeable sound like them, while gods appear seamlessly, as if they always standed there. Though no clue as to how that might affect plot.plot.
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[[WMG: The Dark King is Quentin's descendant]]
During Quentin and Eliot's life together, Quentin had a child with the peach lady. That child is still roaming around, and lived through all the crap in Fillory with the Beast and the wars and so on. He'd be at an age to have kids of his own at some stage during those events. And being the offspring of an Earthborn person, quite possibly has a claim to the throne.
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[[WMG: The Dark King is Quentin's descendant]]
During Quentin and Eliot's life together, Quentin had a child with the peach lady. That child is still roaming around, and lived through all the crap in Fillory with the Beast and the wars and so on. He'd be at an age to have kids of his own at some stage during those events. And being the offspring of an Earthborn person, quite possibly has a claim to the throne.
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[[WMG: The Dark King is Quentin's descendant]]
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During Quentin and Eliot's life together, Quentin had a child with the peach lady. That child is still roaming around, and lived through all the crap in Fillory with the Beast and the wars and so on. He'd be at an age to have kids of his own at some stage during those events. And being the offspring of an Earthborn person, quite possibly has a claim to the throne.
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** Jossed for good: [[spoiler: after exorcism Binder converts her to full human.]]
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Jossed: [[spoiler: Quentin is dead before he can reunite with Elliot]].
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* Jossed: [[spoiler: Monster and his sister are literally nameless "mistake" gods, born with too many power and unable to die. Since even dismembering cannot kill them, Old Gods don't interfere in the affair]].
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* Jossed: [[spoiler: Monster and his sister are literally nameless "mistake" gods, born with too many much power and unable to die. Since even dismembering cannot kill them, Old Gods don't interfere in the affair]].
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* [[spoiler: Monster and its sister are nameless "mistakes", created by Old Gods. Though they kill Our Lady Underground and ex-Librarian gods, they have no interest in current affairs and instead plan to wage war on the Old Gods themselves.]]
* So far Jossed: [[spoiler: she's possessed by Monster's sister, rendering whole question moot.]]
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* Jossed: [[spoiler: The clay organs belonged to the monster's sister. Both she and the monster are gods who were born "mistakes" and abandoned but could not die. Not being able to die they could be killed dismembered by humans without invoking the old gods nerf button]]
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* Jossed: [[spoiler: The clay organs belonged to the monster's sister. Both she and the monster are gods who were born "mistakes" and abandoned but could not die. Not being able to die they could be killed by humans without invoking the old gods nerf button]]
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When he persuades Penny to give up on the Quest, he reasons that it doesn't really matter in the end, since magic is just a means to control mortals, and thus appears to be sympathethic. But [[Main/AlternativeCharacterInterpretation it also may be]] he couldn't care less about Penny and mortals, and all we was doing is trying to sabotage the Quest, to ensure that noone accidentally frees the Monster (which [[TheExtremistWasRight actually happened]]).
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When he persuades Penny to give up on the Quest, he reasons that it doesn't really matter in the end, since magic is just a means to control mortals, and thus appears to be sympathethic. But [[Main/AlternativeCharacterInterpretation it also may be]] he couldn't care less about Penny and mortals, and all we was doing is trying to sabotage the Quest, to ensure that noone accidentally frees the Monster (which [[TheExtremistWasRight actually happened]]).happened]]).
[[WMG: The Monster is the creature Travelers trace their lineage to]]
It teleports with noticeable sound like them, while gods appear seamlessly, as if they always standed there. Though no clue as to how that might affect plot.
[[WMG: The Monster is the creature Travelers trace their lineage to]]
It teleports with noticeable sound like them, while gods appear seamlessly, as if they always standed there. Though no clue as to how that might affect plot.
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* We are informed about his death by Calypso. The one who both designed the prison, and had to know what it must keep imprisoned, and had warm feelings for Prometheus himself. She'd said "they took him away/tore him apart/unmade him/something similar" instead of simple "killed him" (or just interrupted herself before saying anything) - even if she's prohibited to give any info on prisoner that wouldn't be enough of a hint, so there's no reason for direct lies.
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** Do not conflate physical inability with voluntarily enforced laws: Ember choked Umber without batting an ear, and in turn was killed with freshly enchanted sword, and both completely ceased to be (Ember's phantasm was created while he was alive and made autonomous), and Iris was trying to kill Julia, fully and legally recognized as goddess by her peers and in exactly the same situation as Prometheus. For consequences to occur word must've reached the Elder Gods one way or another, which took quite some time, and after that they issued the Plumber to manually switch off magic - no built-in law of nature to punish any party, it required informed decision and action. The Monster, again, ''cannot'' be killed by any means available to gods, and they're shit-pants scared of it (justifiably so) - historically, any death ban, taboo and moratory could be lifted or circumvented if someone in question is too much of a threat to stay alive (as Monster is), often after imprisonment to keep it hush-hush. More on the reinforcement - you must be head-up-your-arse dumb if you create something so dangerous (Umber was scared of his enraged brother, but he still saw him as more or less equal, while Iris shits a brick the moment the Monster catches her and has nothing to counter him with) while trying to squeeze into FateWorseThanDeath-instead-of-death loophole, when laws in that area are enforced at will and on individual basis. Even if they were under ApeShallNeverKillApe restriction, Monster now slaughters any god it can find, causing orders of magnitude more damage, and there must be a loophole or just plain way of petition to get rid of it - y'know, like shooting rabid dog, otherwise whole system is pointless PlotDevice to bring back someone sympathetic for a shallow plot twist.
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* Epimetheus - was the titan god of afterthought and excusesexcuses (Prometheus’ brother)
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* Hekatinkheires - A hundred-hand hundred head monster that’s both imprisoned, and guards the dungeon. It was imprisoned solely for being too powerful for Zeus to handle. This might also why we still havent seen the Monster’s true form.
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* Hekatinkheires - A hundred-hand hundred head hundred-hand, hundred-head monster that’s both imprisoned, and guards the dungeon. It was imprisoned solely for being too powerful for Zeus to handle. This might also why we still havent seen the Monster’s true form.
