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The evidence? ''Twilight Princess'', ''A Link to the Past'', and ''The Wind Waker''. In ''Twilight Princess'', he starts out not wearing the Hero Outfit, as, since its only the second time around, he doesn't realize that he's trapped in the cycle yet. When he's turned into an animal representation of himself, he's a wolf- strong, loyal, willing to die for the good of the pack, willing to rip the enemy's throat out at a moment's notice- not to mention with a distinct dark motif, showing how he still is willing to be as violent as necessary. This shows how Link is still fresh and the power of youth is flowing. In subsequent games- Link to the Past included- he doesn't seem to bother not wearing the Hero Outfit, as he now knows that its inevitable he be forced into adventure at a moment's notice, and he wants to be ready. By the time of Link to the Past, however, he's getting weary. He's done this so many times already that, at some level if not the conscious mind, he doesn't want to fight anymore -- he just wants to run away and live in peace- something represented by the fact that his spirit is now an pacifistic anthropomorphic bunny -- light, nonviolent, not scary, but not capable of heroics, either. A few cycles later, Link gets so sick of it all that he has the King at the time, Daphnes Nohansen, use the triforce to flood Hyrule, in an attempt to end it all so he can finally rest. Finally, in Wind Waker, he still doesn't consciously remember, but still does unconsciously, and as he unconsciously thinks its over, he's back to not wearing the Hero's outfit again until forced into it by circumstance. The King keeps telling everyone that "No, this isn't a reincarnation" not to convince the Spirits, but to keep Link from remembering consciously -- something he had done when he had the world flooded -- out of fear that if Link remembers ''again'', he might just commit suicide and let Ganon win.

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The evidence? ''Twilight Princess'', ''A Link to the Past'', and ''The Wind Waker''. In ''Twilight Princess'', he starts out not wearing the Hero Outfit, as, since its only the second time around, he doesn't realize that he's trapped in the cycle yet. When he's turned into an animal representation of himself, he's a wolf- wolf -- strong, loyal, willing to die for the good of the pack, willing to rip the enemy's throat out at a moment's notice- notice -- not to mention with a distinct dark motif, showing how he still is willing to be as violent as necessary. This shows how Link is still fresh and the power of youth is flowing. In subsequent games- games -- ''A Link to the Past included- Past'' included -- he doesn't seem to bother not wearing the Hero Outfit, as he now knows that its inevitable he be forced into adventure at a moment's notice, and he wants to be ready. By the time of Link to the Past, however, he's getting weary. He's done this so many times already that, at some level if not the conscious mind, he doesn't want to fight anymore -- he just wants to run away and live in peace- peace -- something represented by the fact that his spirit is now an pacifistic anthropomorphic bunny -- light, nonviolent, not scary, but not capable of heroics, either. A few cycles later, Link gets so sick of it all that he has the King at the time, Daphnes Nohansen, use the triforce to flood Hyrule, in an attempt to end it all so he can finally rest. Finally, in Wind Waker, he still doesn't consciously remember, but still does unconsciously, and as he unconsciously thinks its over, he's back to not wearing the Hero's outfit again until forced into it by circumstance. The King keeps telling everyone that "No, this isn't a reincarnation" not to convince the Spirits, but to keep Link from remembering consciously -- something he had done when he had the world flooded -- out of fear that if Link remembers ''again'', he might just commit suicide and let Ganon win.


[[WMG: Alternatively, Link, Zelda, and Ganon are souls stuck in (no, not Purgatory) an endless cycle of Main/{{Reincarnation}}.]] Thus, they are forced to continue the same play with different lyrics throughout time forever, because they messed around with the Triforce. ''This'' is why King Daphnes chose to destroy the Triforce and Hyrule at the end of Wind Waker; so that they could be free.

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[[WMG: Alternatively, Link, Zelda, and Ganon are souls stuck in (no, not Purgatory) an endless cycle of Main/{{Reincarnation}}.]] Thus, they are forced to continue the same play with different lyrics throughout time forever, because they messed around with the Triforce. ''This'' is why King Daphnes chose to destroy the Triforce and Hyrule at the end of ''The Wind Waker; Waker''; so that they could be free.



** Aha! He HAS died, in Twilight Princess, and was reborn in the exact same circumstances in Four Swords Adventure!
** Plus, didn't Ganondorf say something in Wind Waker about the Hero of Winds being the Hero of Time reincarnated? Pretty sure that popped up somewhere.

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** Aha! He HAS died, in Twilight Princess, ''Twilight Princess'', and was reborn in the exact same circumstances in Four ''Four Swords Adventure!
Adventures''!
** Plus, didn't Ganondorf say something in ''The Wind Waker Waker'' about the Hero of Winds being the Hero of Time reincarnated? Pretty sure that popped up somewhere.



*** More seriously, there is no evidence that what they say in the second playthrough where its translated is the same as in the first, where it is not. It could be that the Link ''of the second playthrough'' was not the same soul, which was why he wore a different outfit- as Twilight Princess shows, that little number is so deep a part of his being he spontaneously generates it when transforming in clothing-destroying situations. Link in the first playthrough, with the regular outfit, ''was'' the same soul as usual.

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*** More seriously, there is no evidence that what they say in the second playthrough where its translated is the same as in the first, where it is not. It could be that the Link ''of the second playthrough'' was not the same soul, which was why he wore a different outfit- outfit -- as Twilight Princess ''Twilight Princess'' shows, that little number is so deep a part of his being he spontaneously generates it when transforming in clothing-destroying situations. Link in the first playthrough, with the regular outfit, ''was'' the same soul as usual.



** Twilight Princess seems to have thrown a monkey wrench into this one. A ghost who is strongly implied to be the hero of Time show up to train you.

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** Twilight Princess ''Twilight Princess'' seems to have thrown a monkey wrench into this one. A ghost who is strongly implied to be the hero of Time show up to train you.



*** Actually, Wind Waker disproves reincarnation. The only mention of Link possibly being a reincarnation is a figure of speech. Not to mention how the soul of [=OoT=] Link DOESN'T EXIST in this timeline. Also, Adventure Of Link proves Zelda doesn't reincarnate.
*** Spirit Tracks shows that the Lokomo can reincarnate, and Skyward Sword gives us [[spoiler:Zelda and Ganon]] as being respectively the reincarnations of [[spoiler:Hylia and Demise's hatred]] (the latter's parting words also seem to hint at [[spoiler:Link's "spirit of the hero"]] being eternally reincarnated as well). I'd say that reincarnation is pretty plausible.
*** Only the Zelda in Skyward Sword is a reincarnation. The rest merely have her blood. Spirit of the hero most likely refers to the "unbreakable spirit" mentioned earlier in the game as a must to be able to touch the Triforce without splitting. Hero's Shade disproves reincarnation, having the ghost of one Link still lingering while another is active. Ganon reincarnates in FSA, but that's it. Every other return is a resurrection.
*** Not necessarily. [[spoiler:Zelda's descendants could go on to form the royal family post-SS and her soul could keep being reincarnated there.]] The Hero's Shade doesn't disprove reincarnation either since it could be a memory from [=OoT=]!Link that resurfaced from some sort of hang up - considering he's from the child timeline where The Hero of Time didn't really exist. As for Ganon, it's irrelevant since [[spoiler: SS proves all evils in the series could be an incarnation of Demise's hatred]]. The only problem with the reincarnation theory is WW because in the adult timeline there's "no Link", unless there's some time travel gimmick at work that makes it possible for Link's soul to still be in that timeline.
*** There is nothing to disprove reincarnation in the series, and in fact it's occasionally hinted to be a widespread belief (and most likely fact, given how literal''Zelda'''s religion is). Ganondorf states that Link is "truly the Hero of Time, reborn" in a way that doesn't really suggest it being a figure of speech. [[spoiler:Ganon is actually reincarnated twice - once as Demise due to the lingering hatred in his soul, and again after his death in ''Twilight Princess'' before the events of ''Four Swords Adventures''.]] However, ''A Link Between Worlds'' and ''Spirit Tracks'' both hint that there can be more than one Link alive at a time. Niko mentions Link and Tetra going off on an adventure some time before the beginning of ''Spirit Tracks'' and talks as if he's sure they're probably still alive, hoping they'll come back. This despite them being at least 110 by that point. The one in ''A Link Between Worlds'' is a bit more subtly and spoilery: [[spoiler: the old man who runs the [=StreetPass=] feature in Kakariko is said to be "ancient" but still capable of doing one handed push-ups, and where other characters during the credits have their leitmotif play, the main series theme ("Song of the Hero") plays when he appears and switches to another when the scene changes.]]

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*** Actually, ''The Wind Waker Waker'' disproves reincarnation. The only mention of Link possibly being a reincarnation is a figure of speech. Not to mention how the soul of [=OoT=] Link DOESN'T EXIST in this timeline. Also, ''The Adventure Of Link of Link'' proves Zelda doesn't reincarnate.
*** Spirit Tracks ''Spirit Tracks'' shows that the Lokomo can reincarnate, and Skyward Sword ''Skyward Sword'' gives us [[spoiler:Zelda and Ganon]] as being respectively the reincarnations of [[spoiler:Hylia and Demise's hatred]] (the latter's parting words also seem to hint at [[spoiler:Link's "spirit of the hero"]] being eternally reincarnated as well). I'd say that reincarnation is pretty plausible.
*** Only the Zelda in Skyward Sword ''Skyward Sword'' is a reincarnation. The rest merely have her blood. Spirit of the hero most likely refers to the "unbreakable spirit" mentioned earlier in the game as a must to be able to touch the Triforce without splitting. Hero's Shade disproves reincarnation, having the ghost of one Link still lingering while another is active. Ganon reincarnates in FSA, but that's it. Every other return is a resurrection.
*** Not necessarily. [[spoiler:Zelda's descendants could go on to form the royal family post-SS post-''SS'' and her soul could keep being reincarnated there.]] The Hero's Shade doesn't disprove reincarnation either since it could be a memory from [=OoT=]!Link ''[=OoT=]''!Link that resurfaced from some sort of hang up - -- considering he's from the child timeline where The Hero of Time didn't really exist. As for Ganon, it's irrelevant since [[spoiler: SS proves all evils in the series could be an incarnation of Demise's hatred]]. The only problem with the reincarnation theory is WW because in the adult timeline there's "no Link", unless there's some time travel gimmick at work that makes it possible for Link's soul to still be in that timeline.
*** There is nothing to disprove reincarnation in the series, and in fact it's occasionally hinted to be a widespread belief (and most likely fact, given how literal''Zelda'''s literal ''Zelda''[='=]s religion is). Ganondorf states that Link is "truly the Hero of Time, reborn" in a way that doesn't really suggest it being a figure of speech. [[spoiler:Ganon is actually reincarnated twice - -- once as Demise due to the lingering hatred in his soul, and again after his death in ''Twilight Princess'' before the events of ''Four Swords Adventures''.]] However, ''A Link Between Worlds'' and ''Spirit Tracks'' both hint that there can be more than one Link alive at a time. Niko mentions Link and Tetra going off on an adventure some time before the beginning of ''Spirit Tracks'' and talks as if he's sure they're probably still alive, hoping they'll come back. This despite them being at least 110 by that point. The one in ''A Link Between Worlds'' is a bit more subtly and spoilery: [[spoiler: the old man who runs the [=StreetPass=] feature in Kakariko is said to be "ancient" but still capable of doing one handed push-ups, and where other characters during the credits have their leitmotif play, the main series theme ("Song of the Hero") plays when he appears and switches to another when the scene changes.]]



The evidence? Twilight Princess, Link to the Past, and Wind Waker. In Twilight Princess, he starts out not wearing the Hero Outfit, as, since its only the second time around, he doesn't realize that he's trapped in the cycle yet. When he's turned into an animal representation of himself, he's a wolf- strong, loyal, willing to die for the good of the pack, willing to rip the enemy's throat out at a moment's notice- not to mention with a distinct dark motif, showing how he still is willing to be as violent as necessary. This shows how Link is still fresh and the power of youth is flowing. In subsequent games- Link to the Past included- he doesn't seem to bother not wearing the Hero Outfit, as he now knows that its inevitable he be forced into adventure at a moment's notice, and he wants to be ready. By the time of Link to the Past, however, he's getting weary. He's done this so many times already that, at some level if not the conscious mind, he doesn't want to fight anymore- he just wants to run away and live in peace- something represented by the fact that his spirit is now an pacifistic anthropomorphic bunny- light, nonviolent, not scary, but not capable of heroics, either. A few cycles later, Link gets so sick of it all that he has the King at the time, Daphnes Nohansen, use the triforce to flood Hyrule, in an attempt to end it all so he can finally rest. Finally, in Wind Waker, he still doesn't consciously remember, but still does unconsciously, and as he unconsciously thinks its over, he's back to not wearing the Hero's outfit again until forced into it by circumstance. The King keeps telling everyone that "No, this isn't a reincarnation" not to convince the Spirits, but to keep Link from remembering consciously- something he had done when he had the world flooded- out of fear that if Link remembers ''again'', he might just commit suicide and let Ganon win.

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The evidence? Twilight Princess, ''Twilight Princess'', ''A Link to the Past, Past'', and ''The Wind Waker. Waker''. In Twilight Princess, ''Twilight Princess'', he starts out not wearing the Hero Outfit, as, since its only the second time around, he doesn't realize that he's trapped in the cycle yet. When he's turned into an animal representation of himself, he's a wolf- strong, loyal, willing to die for the good of the pack, willing to rip the enemy's throat out at a moment's notice- not to mention with a distinct dark motif, showing how he still is willing to be as violent as necessary. This shows how Link is still fresh and the power of youth is flowing. In subsequent games- Link to the Past included- he doesn't seem to bother not wearing the Hero Outfit, as he now knows that its inevitable he be forced into adventure at a moment's notice, and he wants to be ready. By the time of Link to the Past, however, he's getting weary. He's done this so many times already that, at some level if not the conscious mind, he doesn't want to fight anymore- anymore -- he just wants to run away and live in peace- something represented by the fact that his spirit is now an pacifistic anthropomorphic bunny- bunny -- light, nonviolent, not scary, but not capable of heroics, either. A few cycles later, Link gets so sick of it all that he has the King at the time, Daphnes Nohansen, use the triforce to flood Hyrule, in an attempt to end it all so he can finally rest. Finally, in Wind Waker, he still doesn't consciously remember, but still does unconsciously, and as he unconsciously thinks its over, he's back to not wearing the Hero's outfit again until forced into it by circumstance. The King keeps telling everyone that "No, this isn't a reincarnation" not to convince the Spirits, but to keep Link from remembering consciously- consciously -- something he had done when he had the world flooded- flooded -- out of fear that if Link remembers ''again'', he might just commit suicide and let Ganon win.



*** Again, Wind Waker disproves reincarnation. The only mention of Link possibly being a reincarnation is a figure of speech. Not to mention how the soul of [=OoT=] Link DOESN'T EXIST in this timeline. Also, Adventure Of Link proves Zelda.
*** [[RunningGag Also again]], Spirit Tracks shows that the Lokomo can reincarnate, and Skyward Sword gives us [[spoiler:Zelda and Ganon]] as being respectively the reincarnations of [[spoiler:Hylia and Demise's hatred]] (the latter's parting words also seem to hint at [[spoiler:Link's "spirit of the hero"]] being eternally reincarnated as well). I'd say that reincarnation is pretty plausible.
*** Only the Zelda in Skyward Sword is a reincarnation. The rest merely have her blood. Spirit of the hero most likely refers to the "unbreakable spirit" mentioned earlier in the game as a must to be able to touch the Triforce without splitting. Hero's Shade disproves reincarnation, having the ghost of one Link still lingering while another is active. Ganon reincarnates in FSA, but that's it. Every other return is a resurrection.
*** [[RuleOfThree And yet again]], not necessarily. [[spoiler:Zelda's descendants could go on to form the royal family post-SS and her soul could keep being reincarnated there.]] The Hero's Shade doesn't disprove reincarnation either since it could be a memory from ''[=OoT=]''!Link that resurfaced from some sort of hang up - considering he's from the child timeline where The Hero of Time didn't really exist. As for Ganon, it's irrelevant since [[spoiler: SS proves all evils in the series could be an incarnation of Demise's hatred]]. The only problem with the reincarnation theory is WW because in the adult timeline there's "no Link", unless there's some time travel gimmick at work that makes it possible for Link's soul to still be in that timeline.

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*** Again, ''The Wind Waker Waker'' disproves reincarnation. The only mention of Link possibly being a reincarnation is a figure of speech. Not to mention how the soul of [=OoT=] ''[=OoT=]'' Link DOESN'T EXIST in this timeline. Also, ''The Adventure Of Link of Link'' proves Zelda.
*** [[RunningGag Also again]], Spirit Tracks ''Spirit Tracks'' shows that the Lokomo can reincarnate, and Skyward Sword ''Skyward Sword'' gives us [[spoiler:Zelda and Ganon]] as being respectively the reincarnations of [[spoiler:Hylia and Demise's hatred]] (the latter's parting words also seem to hint at [[spoiler:Link's "spirit of the hero"]] being eternally reincarnated as well). I'd say that reincarnation is pretty plausible.
*** Only the Zelda in Skyward Sword ''Skyward Sword'' is a reincarnation. The rest merely have her blood. Spirit of the hero most likely refers to the "unbreakable spirit" mentioned earlier in the game as a must to be able to touch the Triforce without splitting. Hero's Shade disproves reincarnation, having the ghost of one Link still lingering while another is active. Ganon reincarnates in FSA, but that's it. Every other return is a resurrection.
*** [[RuleOfThree And yet again]], not necessarily. [[spoiler:Zelda's descendants could go on to form the royal family post-SS post-''SS'' and her soul could keep being reincarnated there.]] The Hero's Shade doesn't disprove reincarnation either since it could be a memory from ''[=OoT=]''!Link that resurfaced from some sort of hang up - -- considering he's from the child timeline where The the Hero of Time didn't really exist. As for Ganon, it's irrelevant since [[spoiler: SS proves all evils in the series could be an incarnation of Demise's hatred]]. The only problem with the reincarnation theory is WW ''WW'' because in the adult timeline there's "no Link", unless there's some time travel gimmick at work that makes it possible for Link's soul to still be in that timeline.



As long as Link, Ganondorf, and Zelda remain in their cycle of reincarnation, technology remains the same. Then, all of a sudden, after Wind Waker where Link ends the cycle by ending the Triforce, Hyrule, and sealing G-dorf and the Master Sword permanently, all of a sudden, we have a steam ship, implying an industrial revolution. Why then? Answer: whatever is perpetuating the reincarnation cycle is also magically keeping technology from advancing. Considering the triforce is likely the power in question that kept them in the cycle, this of course means that the Goddesses are less benevolent than we were led to believe. Or, they just didn't want pollution.

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As long as Link, Ganondorf, and Zelda remain in their cycle of reincarnation, technology remains the same. Then, all of a sudden, after ''The Wind Waker Waker'' where Link ends the cycle by ending the Triforce, Hyrule, and sealing G-dorf and the Master Sword permanently, all of a sudden, we have a steam ship, implying an industrial revolution. Why then? Answer: whatever is perpetuating the reincarnation cycle is also magically keeping technology from advancing. Considering the triforce is likely the power in question that kept them in the cycle, this of course means that the Goddesses are less benevolent than we were led to believe. Or, they just didn't want pollution.



[[WMG: Wind Waker Link is a fan boy.]]

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[[WMG: Wind Waker
[[WMG:''Wind Waker''
Link is a fan boy.]]



There is only one Ganondorf. There is only one Ganon. No matter in what way the timeline is split--It will always be the same Ganon. He exists outside of time, and enters the world as Ganondorf. Once (if) he reclaims his power, he becomes Ganon -- before being resealed. EG. The Ganondorf from Wind Waker is the exact same one as the one in Twilight Princess -- even though they exist in different timelines.

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There is only one Ganondorf. There is only one Ganon. No matter in what way the timeline is split--It will always be the same Ganon. He exists outside of time, and enters the world as Ganondorf. Once (if) he reclaims his power, he becomes Ganon -- before being resealed. EG. The Ganondorf from ''The Wind Waker Waker'' is the exact same one as the one in Twilight Princess ''Twilight Princess'' -- even though they exist in different timelines.



** Exactly. In the Oracle games, you can actually see him being dropped into the world, along with a plea from the triforce for him to accept their quest, and the fall into the world knocks him out for a while in "Seasons."

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** Exactly. In the Oracle games, you can actually see him being dropped into the world, along with a plea from the triforce for him to accept their quest, and the fall into the world knocks him out for a while in "Seasons."''Seasons''.


In the first games, he could only stab, but in the third, he could slash and spin. finally, in the 3-D games, Link can hack, slash, spin, and stab, as well as shoot lasers in Skyward Sword. (even though Skyward Sword is the first in the timeline...)
** He can shoot lasers in every single 2D game, though. Skyward Sword is just the first time he can do it in 3D, at least without having to stick the vessel of a dark god to his face.

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In the first games, he could only stab, but in the third, he could slash and spin. finally, in the 3-D 3D games, Link can hack, slash, spin, and stab, as well as shoot lasers in Skyward Sword. ''Skyward Sword'' (even though Skyward Sword ''Skyward Sword'' is the first in the timeline...)
** * He can shoot lasers in every single 2D game, though. Skyward Sword ''Skyward Sword'' is just the first time he can do it in 3D, at least without having to stick the vessel of a dark god to his face.



Impa and possibly the indeterminate male ruler who is usually Zelda's father in some way (He might be just a bloodline with EXTREMELY lucky genetics and other factors.) also reincarnate and ressurect. Impa shares the job of being the reincarnation/avatar of Hylia and Nayru's in-world champion with Zelda, respectively. Her reincarnation isn't so direct, resulting in the iconic differences between states. She cycles between Skyward Sword, Sheikah/Sage/etc. forms, CD-I form, the Oracle games form, back to CD-I form, and then back to Skyward Sword, possibly the other way around. Misplacement in timespace is due to the fact a timey-wimey ball is in effect and sometimes stages get skipped, leaving the way for more Impa forms to appear.
* Skyward Sword form is Nayru because the Zelda of the era is Hylia. Triforce affinity is weird due to the fact this is in the early chronological form of the legend itself.

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Impa and possibly the indeterminate male ruler who is usually Zelda's father in some way (He might be just a bloodline with EXTREMELY lucky genetics and other factors.) factors) also reincarnate and ressurect. Impa shares the job of being the reincarnation/avatar of Hylia and Nayru's in-world champion with Zelda, respectively. Her reincarnation isn't so direct, resulting in the iconic differences between states. She cycles between Skyward Sword, ''Skyward Sword'', Sheikah/Sage/etc. forms, CD-I form, the Oracle games form, back to CD-I form, and then back to Skyward Sword, ''Skyward Sword'', possibly the other way around. Misplacement in timespace is due to the fact a timey-wimey ball is in effect and sometimes stages get skipped, leaving the way for more Impa forms to appear.
* Skyward Sword ''Skyward Sword''[='=]s form is Nayru because the Zelda of the era is Hylia. Triforce affinity is weird due to the fact this is in the early chronological form of the legend itself.



*** [[RuleOfThree And yet again]], not necessarily. [[spoiler:Zelda's descendants could go on to form the royal family post-SS and her soul could keep being reincarnated there.]] The Hero's Shade doesn't disprove reincarnation either since it could be a memory from [=OoT=]!Link that resurfaced from some sort of hang up - considering he's from the child timeline where The Hero of Time didn't really exist. As for Ganon, it's irrelevant since [[spoiler: SS proves all evils in the series could be an incarnation of Demise's hatred]]. The only problem with the reincarnation theory is WW because in the adult timeline there's "no Link", unless there's some time travel gimmick at work that makes it possible for Link's soul to still be in that timeline.

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*** [[RuleOfThree And yet again]], not necessarily. [[spoiler:Zelda's descendants could go on to form the royal family post-SS and her soul could keep being reincarnated there.]] The Hero's Shade doesn't disprove reincarnation either since it could be a memory from [=OoT=]!Link ''[=OoT=]''!Link that resurfaced from some sort of hang up - considering he's from the child timeline where The Hero of Time didn't really exist. As for Ganon, it's irrelevant since [[spoiler: SS proves all evils in the series could be an incarnation of Demise's hatred]]. The only problem with the reincarnation theory is WW because in the adult timeline there's "no Link", unless there's some time travel gimmick at work that makes it possible for Link's soul to still be in that timeline.



[[WMG: The 'different version of the same legend' theory is true, but there is also a Timeline]]

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[[WMG: The 'different "different version of the same legend' legend" theory is true, but there is also a Timeline]]timeline]]



Obviously Zelda is Hylia and Ganondorf is Demise but where does that leave Link? Link is most likely the Fierce Deity. We know the details on why Demise and Hylia became mortal but if I had to guess the Fierce Deity became mortal long before either of them for unrelated reasons. Probably in an effort to either protect mortals or to escape something really powerful. To make it the theory in perfectly only certain parts of Demise, Hylia, and The Fierce Deity became mortal. This would explain pieces of these gods existing outside of Zelda, Link, and Ganon: like the Fierce Deity Mask, Demise being sealed in the Master Sword, or the split timeline.

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Obviously Zelda is Hylia and Ganondorf is Demise but where does that leave Link? Link is most likely the Fierce Deity. We know the details on why Demise and Hylia became mortal but if I had to guess the Fierce Deity became mortal long before either of them for unrelated reasons. Probably in an effort to either protect mortals or to escape something really powerful. To make it the theory in perfectly only certain parts of Demise, Hylia, and The Fierce Deity became mortal. This would explain pieces of these gods existing outside of Zelda, Link, and Ganon: like the Fierce Deity Mask, Demise being sealed in the Master Sword, or the split timeline.timeline.
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*** Not necessarily. [[spoiler:Zelda's descendants could go on to form the royal family post-SS and her soul could keep being reincarnated there.]] The Hero's Shade doesn't disprove reicarnation either since it could be a memory from OoT!Link that resurfaced from some sort of hang up - considering he's from the child timeline where The Hero of Time didn't really exist. As for Ganon, it's irrelevant since [[spoiler: SS proves all evils in the series could be an incarnation of Demise's hatred]]. The only problem with the reincarnation theory is WW because in the adult timeline there's "no Link", unless there's some time travel gimmick at work that makes it possible for Link's soul to still be in that timeline.

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*** Not necessarily. [[spoiler:Zelda's descendants could go on to form the royal family post-SS and her soul could keep being reincarnated there.]] The Hero's Shade doesn't disprove reicarnation reincarnation either since it could be a memory from OoT!Link [=OoT=]!Link that resurfaced from some sort of hang up - considering he's from the child timeline where The Hero of Time didn't really exist. As for Ganon, it's irrelevant since [[spoiler: SS proves all evils in the series could be an incarnation of Demise's hatred]]. The only problem with the reincarnation theory is WW because in the adult timeline there's "no Link", unless there's some time travel gimmick at work that makes it possible for Link's soul to still be in that timeline.



*** [[RuleOfThree And yet again]], not necessarily. [[spoiler:Zelda's descendants could go on to form the royal family post-SS and her soul could keep being reincarnated there.]] The Hero's Shade doesn't disprove reicarnation either since it could be a memory from OoT!Link that resurfaced from some sort of hang up - considering he's from the child timeline where The Hero of Time didn't really exist. As for Ganon, it's irrelevant since [[spoiler: SS proves all evils in the series could be an incarnation of Demise's hatred]]. The only problem with the reincarnation theory is WW because in the adult timeline there's "no Link", unless there's some time travel gimmick at work that makes it possible for Link's soul to still be in that timeline.

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*** [[RuleOfThree And yet again]], not necessarily. [[spoiler:Zelda's descendants could go on to form the royal family post-SS and her soul could keep being reincarnated there.]] The Hero's Shade doesn't disprove reicarnation reincarnation either since it could be a memory from OoT!Link [=OoT=]!Link that resurfaced from some sort of hang up - considering he's from the child timeline where The Hero of Time didn't really exist. As for Ganon, it's irrelevant since [[spoiler: SS proves all evils in the series could be an incarnation of Demise's hatred]]. The only problem with the reincarnation theory is WW because in the adult timeline there's "no Link", unless there's some time travel gimmick at work that makes it possible for Link's soul to still be in that timeline.


* Alternatively again, Link is becoming dangerously apathetic/crazy. He'll unhesitatingly leap into bottomless pits, lava, and other hazards; he no longer fears, or cares about death. He's just adventuring to get it over with. His latest idea of relaxation is crossbow training.

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* Alternatively again, Link is becoming dangerously apathetic/crazy. He'll unhesitatingly leap into bottomless pits, lava, and other hazards; he no longer fears, or cares about death. He's just adventuring to get it over with. His latest idea of relaxation is [[VideoGame/LinksCrossbowTraining crossbow training.training]].



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*** There is nothing to disprove reincarnation in the series, and in fact it's occasionally hinted to be a widespread belief (and most likely fact, given how literal''Zelda'''s religion is). Ganondorf states that Link is "truly the Hero of Time, reborn" in a way that doesn't really suggest it being a figure of speech. [[spoiler:Ganon is actually reincarnated twice - once as Demise due to the lingering hatred in his soul, and again after his death in ''Twilight Princess'' before the events of ''Four Swords Adventures''.]] However, ''A Link Between Worlds'' and ''Spirit Tracks'' both hint that there can be more than one Link alive at a time. Niko mentions Link and Tetra going off on an adventure some time before the beginning of ''Spirit Tracks'' and talks as if he's sure they're probably still alive, hoping they'll come back. This despite them being at least 110 by that point. The one in ''A Link Between Worlds'' is a bit more subtly and spoilery: [[spoiler: the old man who runs the [=StreetPass=] feature in Kakariko is said to be "ancient" but still capable of doing one handed push-ups, and where other characters during the credits have their leitmotif play, the main series theme ("Song of the Hero") plays when he appears and switches to another when the scene changes.]]


* Obviously Zelda is Hylia and Ganondorf is Demise but where does that leave Link? Link is most likely the Fierce Deity.

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* Obviously Zelda is Hylia and Ganondorf is Demise but where does that leave Link? Link is most likely the Fierce Deity.Deity. We know the details on why Demise and Hylia became mortal but if I had to guess the Fierce Deity became mortal long before either of them for unrelated reasons. Probably in an effort to either protect mortals or to escape something really powerful. To make it the theory in perfectly only certain parts of Demise, Hylia, and The Fierce Deity became mortal. This would explain pieces of these gods existing outside of Zelda, Link, and Ganon: like the Fierce Deity Mask, Demise being sealed in the Master Sword, or the split timeline.


** The original post didn't specifically say ALL games start with Link sleeping. Zelda 1 and Adventure of Link come to mind as games where this doesn't happen. On a different note, it'd be cool to see a fanfic series tackle it from this perspective. To the word processor...!

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** The original post didn't specifically say ALL games start with Link sleeping. Zelda 1 and Adventure of Link come to mind as games where this doesn't happen. On a different note, it'd be cool to see a fanfic series tackle it from this perspective. To the word processor...!!

[[WMG: Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf are all deities stuck in a reincarnation cycle]]
*Obviously Zelda is Hylia and Ganondorf is Demise but where does that leave Link? Link is most likely the Fierce Deity.


* Believe it or not, [[spoiler:this is ''[[InvertedTrope inverted]]'' with ''Skyward Sword''; the eternal cycle of reincarnation is a BatmanGambit by [[BiggerBad Demise]], the reason basically dumbing down to him wanting to make their reincarnations suffer.]]

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* Believe it or not, [[spoiler:this is ''[[InvertedTrope inverted]]'' with ''Skyward Sword''; the eternal cycle of reincarnation is a BatmanGambit by [[BiggerBad [[GreaterScopeVillain Demise]], the reason basically dumbing down to him wanting to make their reincarnations suffer.]]


[[WMG: Link is an [[TheElricSaga incarnation of the Eternal Champion]]]]

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[[WMG: Link is an [[TheElricSaga [[Literature/TheElricSaga incarnation of the Eternal Champion]]]]


**** Again, Wind Waker disproves reincarnation. The only mention of Link possibly being a reincarnation is a figure of speech. Not to mention how the soul of [=OoT=] Link DOESN'T EXIST in this timeline. Also, Adventure Of Link proves Zelda

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**** Again, Wind Waker disproves reincarnation. The only mention of Link possibly being a reincarnation is a figure of speech. Not to mention how the soul of [=OoT=] Link DOESN'T EXIST in this timeline. Also, Adventure Of Link proves ZeldaZelda.



To quote the Bible, Ganon keeps "kicking against the goad." The goddesses must seal him away, but they want him to one day turn to the side of good. so they intentionally release him every so often to give him another chance. so far, he always turns bad, and must be defeated by that era's link and zelda. One day, he may see the futility of it all, and fulfill his true purpose, because...

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To quote the Bible, Ganon keeps "kicking against the goad." The goddesses must seal him away, but they want him to one day turn to the side of good. so So, they intentionally release him every so often to give him another chance. so So far, he always turns bad, and must be defeated by that era's link Link and zelda.Zelda. One day, he may see the futility of it all, and fulfill his true purpose, because...



Miyamoto himself said that he originally planned for the series to be different takes on the same overall tale. Later it the stated that the series has a definitive timeline. I figure both are true. The games do follow a specific order (that only he knows) but in game, the legend continually gets corrupted through [[HijackedbyGanon Pig-man induced traumas]], and continued lost history. So certain races don't dissapear, they simply aren't mentions in that particular version, or are changed into something else (Zoras to Zolas anyone?). Locations don't move; the story tellers just don't know their geograpy. Things get mixed up, forgotten, confused, and then, we throw in [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]], leading to a TimeyWimeyBall, and a mixed up legend. But there is a timeline, and things did happen in a certain order, it's just the details that are muddled.

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Miyamoto himself said that he originally planned for the series to be different takes on the same overall tale. Later it the stated that the series has a definitive timeline. I figure both are true. The games do follow a specific order (that only he knows) but in game, the legend continually gets corrupted through [[HijackedbyGanon Pig-man induced traumas]], and continued lost history. So certain races don't dissapear, disappear, they simply aren't mentions mentioned in that particular version, or are changed into something else (Zoras to Zolas anyone?). Locations don't move; the story tellers just don't know their geograpy.geography. Things get mixed up, forgotten, confused, and then, we throw in [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]], leading to a TimeyWimeyBall, and a mixed up legend. But there is a timeline, and things did happen in a certain order, it's just the details that are muddled.



There is only one Ganondorf. There is only one Ganon No matter in what way the timeline is split--It will always be the same Ganon. He exists outside of time, and enters the world as Gannondorf. Once(if) he reclaims his power, he becomes Ganon-before being resealed. EG. The Ganondorf from Wind Waker is the exact same one as the one in Twilight Princess--even though they exist in different timelines.

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There is only one Ganondorf. There is only one Ganon Ganon. No matter in what way the timeline is split--It will always be the same Ganon. He exists outside of time, and enters the world as Gannondorf. Once(if) Ganondorf. Once (if) he reclaims his power, he becomes Ganon-before Ganon -- before being resealed. EG. The Ganondorf from Wind Waker is the exact same one as the one in Twilight Princess--even Princess -- even though they exist in different timelines.





** In VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess, though, there's a scene of Link and Rusl gathering firewood before the "wake up, Link!" scene. That doesn't seem to factor into things well.

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** In VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess, though, there's a scene of Link and Rusl gathering firewood before the "wake up, Link!" scene. That doesn't seem to factor into things well.well.
** The original post didn't specifically say ALL games start with Link sleeping. Zelda 1 and Adventure of Link come to mind as games where this doesn't happen. On a different note, it'd be cool to see a fanfic series tackle it from this perspective. To the word processor...!


*** [[Main/AvatarTheLastAirbender Aang]] could talk to ghosts of previous incarnations, so its not like there's no precedent for someone seeing a ghost of their pre-incarnation before.

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*** [[Main/AvatarTheLastAirbender [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Aang]] could talk to ghosts of previous incarnations, so its not like there's no precedent for someone seeing a ghost of their pre-incarnation before.


** In TwilightPrincess, though, there's a scene of Link and Rusl gathering firewood before the "wake up, Link!" scene. That doesn't seem to factor into things well.

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** In TwilightPrincess, VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess, though, there's a scene of Link and Rusl gathering firewood before the "wake up, Link!" scene. That doesn't seem to factor into things well.

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[[WMG: It's not just Link, Zelda, and Ganon reincarnating and resurrecting all over the place.]]
Impa and possibly the indeterminate male ruler who is usually Zelda's father in some way (He might be just a bloodline with EXTREMELY lucky genetics and other factors.) also reincarnate and ressurect. Impa shares the job of being the reincarnation/avatar of Hylia and Nayru's in-world champion with Zelda, respectively. Her reincarnation isn't so direct, resulting in the iconic differences between states. She cycles between Skyward Sword, Sheikah/Sage/etc. forms, CD-I form, the Oracle games form, back to CD-I form, and then back to Skyward Sword, possibly the other way around. Misplacement in timespace is due to the fact a timey-wimey ball is in effect and sometimes stages get skipped, leaving the way for more Impa forms to appear.
* Skyward Sword form is Nayru because the Zelda of the era is Hylia. Triforce affinity is weird due to the fact this is in the early chronological form of the legend itself.
* The majority of the Sheikah forms are Hylia because the Zeldas of that period usually have the Triforce Of Wisdom.
* CD-I form is Nayru, and the Zelda is Hylia. Impa actively uses the Triforce of Wisdom herself and Zelda barely utilizes any of her powers granted by the Triforce.
* Oracle of Seasons and Oracle Of Ages form is Hylia, because Zelda apparently HAS the Triforce around in the castle or something.

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