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* Apparently Jossed by Nolting himself, who was told about this theory [[https://www.thenationalnews.com/arts-culture/film/soul-editor-kevin-nolting-no-22-is-not-riley-from-inside-out-1.1215296 in an interview]].


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She wanted to see what Joe’s experience as a cat was like so that’s what she decided to incarcerate into, as she already had a human experience in Joe’s body.

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She wanted to see what Joe’s experience as a cat was like so that’s what she decided to incarcerate incarnate into, as she already had a human experience in Joe’s body.
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Her Lost Soul state is very, ''very'' similar to them. Both are created from a soul crossing the DespairEventHorizon, both are completely wild and out of control examples of a SuperPoweredEvilSide and of TragicMonster, both absorb other souls, both keep the true core of the soul tormented in despair and suffering as a SelfInflictedHell, both are undone by the main character of the story.

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Her Lost Soul state is very, ''very'' similar to them. Both are created from a soul crossing the DespairEventHorizon, both are completely wild and out of control examples of a SuperPoweredEvilSide and of TragicMonster, both absorb other souls, both keep the true core of the soul tormented in despair and suffering as a SelfInflictedHell, both are undone by the main character of the story. Joe and Madoka respectfully.
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[[WMG: 22's Lost Soul form is an AlternateCompanyEquivalent to [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Witches]].]]
Her Lost Soul state is very, ''very'' similar to them. Both are created from a soul crossing the DespairEventHorizon, both are completely wild and out of control examples of a SuperPoweredEvilSide and of TragicMonster, both absorb other souls, both keep the true core of the soul tormented in despair and suffering as a SelfInflictedHell, both are undone by the main character of the story.
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[[WMG: Assuming a Soul can be reborn at any point in time on Earth 22 will become Carl from Up]]
This is admittedly super unlikely but given how at one point 22 had Ed Esner's voice wouldn't it feel super nice from a thematic perspective that 22 became Carl? Given what happens in Up it would bring the messages of both movies full circle.
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**Just like how Joe Gardner thinks music is his "purpose" and Terry thinks the same about counting while everyone else just "lives every minute of it".
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Recent promotional material has shown what appears to be a cat in the film. During the second trailer, Joe sees his Body in on a hospital bed and leaps in to return to his body, with 22 falling in after him. If you look closely, you can see the cat on Joe's bed. What if that means it shall be a case where, upon returning to Earth, Joe winds up in the body of his cat, and 22 winds up in Joe's body?

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Recent promotional material has shown what appears to be a cat in the film. During the second trailer, Joe sees his Body body in on a hospital bed and leaps in to return to his body, with 22 falling in after him. If you look closely, you can see the cat on Joe's bed. What if that means it shall be a case where, upon returning to Earth, Joe winds up in the body of his cat, and 22 winds up in Joe's body?
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[[WMG: There is going to be a Body Swap Issue.]]
Recent Promotional Material has shown what appears to be a Cat in the Film. During the Second Trailer, Joe sees his Body in a Hospital Bed and leaps in to return to his body, Twenty-Two falling after him. If you look close too, you can see the Cat on Joe's Bed. What if that means it shall be a case where, upon returning to Earth, Joe winds up in the Body of his Cat, and Twenty-Two winds up in Joe's Body?

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[[WMG: There is going to be a [[FreakyFridayFlip Body Swap Issue.Swap]] issue.]]
Recent Promotional Material promotional material has shown what appears to be a Cat cat in the Film. film. During the Second Trailer, second trailer, Joe sees his Body in on a Hospital Bed hospital bed and leaps in to return to his body, Twenty-Two with 22 falling in after him. If you look close too, closely, you can see the Cat cat on Joe's Bed. bed. What if that means it shall be a case where, upon returning to Earth, Joe winds up in the Body body of his Cat, cat, and Twenty-Two 22 winds up in Joe's Body?
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* [[spoiler:Her becoming a Lost Soul may represent self-destructive behavior or a suicide attempt.]]
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* All the other little souls are happy and cheery, while she's cynical and world-weary. When you're depressed, it can feel like everyone else is having a great time and has their shit together while your life is the only one that sucks.

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* All the other little souls are happy and cheery, while she's cynical and world-weary. When you're depressed, it can feel like seem as if everyone else is having a great time and and/or has their shit together together, while your life is the only one that sucks.
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* All the other little souls are happy and cheery, while she's cynical and world-weary.

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* All the other little souls are happy and cheery, while she's cynical and world-weary. When you're depressed, it can feel like everyone else is having a great time and has their shit together while your life is the only one that sucks.



* 22's life is implied to be pretty repetitive, which is also what depression can feel like. She just hangs around and does whatever she feels like, and once a week, the Jerries show up to force her into the You Seminar (the equivalent of well-meaning people who try to get you, a depressed person, to get out and interact with the outside world).
* [[spoiler:She crosses the DespairEventHorizon when she argues with Joe and he tells her that she only found her spark because she was in his body, and she interprets it as him saying she will never have a purpose in life. Depression is (or can be) generally more like emotional numbness than constant despair, but sadness is often the easiest emotion for a depressed person to feel.]]
* [[spoiler:22 being untransformed from her Lost Soul state represents coming to terms with herself and moving forward in life, finally having found a purpose.]]

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* 22's life is implied to be pretty repetitive, which is also what depression can feel like. She just hangs around and stays in her room (like a depressed person who never leaves their house), does whatever she feels like, and once a week, the Jerries show up to force her into the You Seminar (the equivalent of well-meaning people who try to get you, a depressed person, you to get out leave your room and interact with the outside world).
* [[spoiler:She crosses the DespairEventHorizon when she argues with Joe and he tells her that she only found her spark because she was in his body, and she interprets it as him saying she will never have a purpose in life. Depression is (or can be) generally more like emotional numbness than constant despair, but sadness is often the easiest emotion for a depressed person to feel. (In ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut,'' this is also why only Sadness was able to help Riley when she was depressed.)]]
* [[spoiler:22 being untransformed from her Lost Soul state and going to Earth represents coming to terms with herself and moving forward in life, finally having found a purpose.
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* [[spoiler:22 being untransformed from her Lost Soul state represents coming to terms with herself and moving forward in life, finally having found a purpose.]]
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* [[spoiler:She crosses the DespairEventHorizon when she argues with Joe and he tells her that she will never have a purpose in life. Depression is (or can be) generally more like emotional numbness than constant despair, but sadness is often the easiest emotion for a depressed person to feel.]]

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* [[spoiler:She crosses the DespairEventHorizon when she argues with Joe and he tells her that she only found her spark because she was in his body, and she interprets it as him saying she will never have a purpose in life. Depression is (or can be) generally more like emotional numbness than constant despair, but sadness is often the easiest emotion for a depressed person to feel.]]

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* Even after being in the Great Beyond for countless years, 22 still hasn't found her spark, or the thing that gives her a reason to live. She's tried so many things, but none of them work.

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* Even after being in the Great Beyond Before for countless years, 22 still hasn't found her spark, or the thing that gives her a reason to live. She's tried so many things, but none of them work.




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* 22's life is implied to be pretty repetitive, which is also what depression can feel like. She just hangs around and does whatever she feels like, and once a week, the Jerries show up to force her into the You Seminar (the equivalent of well-meaning people who try to get you, a depressed person, to get out and interact with the outside world).
* [[spoiler:She crosses the DespairEventHorizon when she argues with Joe and he tells her that she will never have a purpose in life. Depression is (or can be) generally more like emotional numbness than constant despair, but sadness is often the easiest emotion for a depressed person to feel.]]
* [[spoiler:22 being untransformed from her Lost Soul state represents coming to terms with herself and moving forward in life, finally having found a purpose.]]
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[[WMG: 22's dilemma can be interpreted as a metaphor for depression]]
* Even after being in the Great Beyond for countless years, 22 still hasn't found her spark, or the thing that gives her a reason to live. She's tried so many things, but none of them work.
* All the other little souls are happy and cheery, while she's cynical and world-weary.
* Because she doesn't have a spark, she can't leave the Great Before. Having clinical depression tends to feel like you're trapped in a place you can't get out of, or feeling like things will never get better or never change.
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12 years later from the first movie, 22 will be a Chinese exchange student moving into New York and attending Joe’s school, and Joe will suspect that it’s her from her personality and mannerisms. Either two of the scenarios will play out: 1) 22 won’t remember Joe, and Joe spends the whole movie trying to get her to remember him and her past life through some sort of adventure where they both end up stuck in the soul world. 2) The above WMG is true and 22 remembers Joe. They have a reunion, and there’s a conflict in the soul world they must work together to solve. To make things interesting, maybe it could be like children in real life claiming reincarnation, where she vaguely remembers things from her past life but not quite fully remembers everything about it. This will lead to her gradually remembering more and more things about her past life through StoryBreadcrumbs.

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12 years later from the first movie, 22 will be a Chinese exchange student moving into New York and attending Joe’s school, and Joe will suspect that it’s her from her personality and mannerisms. Either two of the scenarios will play out: 1) 22 won’t remember Joe, and Joe spends the whole movie trying to get her to remember him and her past life through some sort of adventure where they both end up stuck in the soul world. 2) The above WMG is true and 22 remembers Joe. They have a reunion, and there’s a conflict in the soul world they must work together to solve. To make things interesting, maybe it could be like children in real life claiming reincarnation, where she vaguely remembers things from her past life but not quite fully remembers everything about it. This will lead to her gradually remembering more and more things about elements of her past life through StoryBreadcrumbs.

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About 12 years later from the first movie, 22 will be a Chinese exchange student moving into New York and attending Joe’s school, and Joe will suspect that it’s her from her personality and mannerisms. Either two of the scenarios will play out: 1) 22 won’t remember Joe, and Joe spends the whole movie trying to get her to remember him and her past life through some sort of adventure where they both end up stuck in the soul world. 2) The above WMG is true and 22 remembers Joe. They have a reunion, and there’s a conflict in the soul world they must work together to solve. To make things interesting, maybe it could be like children in real life claiming reincarnation, where she vaguely remembers things from her past life but not quite fully remembers everything about it. This will lead to her gradually remembering more and more things about her past life through StoryBreadcrumbs.

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About 12 years later from the first movie, 22 will be a Chinese exchange student moving into New York and attending Joe’s school, and Joe will suspect that it’s her from her personality and mannerisms. Either two of the scenarios will play out: 1) 22 won’t remember Joe, and Joe spends the whole movie trying to get her to remember him and her past life through some sort of adventure where they both end up stuck in the soul world. 2) The above WMG is true and 22 remembers Joe. They have a reunion, and there’s a conflict in the soul world they must work together to solve. To make things interesting, maybe it could be like children in real life claiming reincarnation, where she vaguely remembers things from her past life but not quite fully remembers everything about it. This will lead to her gradually remembering more and more things about her past life through StoryBreadcrumbs.

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About 12 years later from the first movie, 22 will be a Chinese exchange student moving into New York and attending Joe’s school, and Joe will suspect that it’s her from her personality and mannerisms. Either two of the scenarios will play out: 1) 22 won’t remember Joe, and Joe spends the whole movie trying to get her to remember him and her past life through some sort of adventure where they both end up stuck in the soul world. 2) The above WMG is true and 22 remembers Joe. They have a reunion, and there’s a completely different conflict in the soul world they must work together to solve.

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About 12 years later from the first movie, 22 will be a Chinese exchange student moving into New York and attending Joe’s school, and Joe will suspect that it’s her from her personality and mannerisms. Either two of the scenarios will play out: 1) 22 won’t remember Joe, and Joe spends the whole movie trying to get her to remember him and her past life through some sort of adventure where they both end up stuck in the soul world. 2) The above WMG is true and 22 remembers Joe. They have a reunion, and there’s a completely different conflict in the soul world they must work together to solve.solve. To make things interesting, maybe it could be like children in real life claiming reincarnation, where she vaguely remembers things from her past life but not quite fully remembers everything about it. This will lead to her gradually remembering more and more things about her past life through StoryBreadcrumbs.

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About 12 years later from the first movie, 22 will be a Chinese exchange student moving into New York and attending Joe’s school, and Joe will suspect that it’s her from her personality and mannerisms. Either two of the scenarios will play out:
1) 22 won’t remember Joe, and Joe spends the whole movie trying to get her to remember him and her past life through some sort of adventure where they both end up stuck in the soul world.
2) The above WMG is true and 22 remembers Joe. They have a reunion, and there’s a completely different conflict in the soul world they must work together to solve.

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About 12 years later from the first movie, 22 will be a Chinese exchange student moving into New York and attending Joe’s school, and Joe will suspect that it’s her from her personality and mannerisms. Either two of the scenarios will play out:
out: 1) 22 won’t remember Joe, and Joe spends the whole movie trying to get her to remember him and her past life through some sort of adventure where they both end up stuck in the soul world.
world. 2) The above WMG is true and 22 remembers Joe. They have a reunion, and there’s a completely different conflict in the soul world they must work together to solve.
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[[WMG: How Joe and 22 will cross paths in a sequel]]
About 12 years later from the first movie, 22 will be a Chinese exchange student moving into New York and attending Joe’s school, and Joe will suspect that it’s her from her personality and mannerisms. Either two of the scenarios will play out:
1) 22 won’t remember Joe, and Joe spends the whole movie trying to get her to remember him and her past life through some sort of adventure where they both end up stuck in the soul world.
2) The above WMG is true and 22 remembers Joe. They have a reunion, and there’s a completely different conflict in the soul world they must work together to solve.
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* perhaps, 22 moved to New York when 22 was a child, teen or young adult.
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[[WMG: 22 will remember the Great Before...]]
...Due to the unprecedented amount of time 22 spent residing there before getting her spark.
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* In the French dub, the Jerries are all called [[ArchangelMichael Michel]].
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That's really, ''really'' unlikely. Really, how likely do you think 22 is to randomly happen upon Joe at some point, let alone for Joe to realize what he's actually seeing? The scenario becomes even more absurd when you pay attention to the globe and look at where 22 was headed for. 22 appears to be headed towards somewhere in '''China.''' The fact that they're in '''''different hemispheres''''' makes things even more absurd.

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