History WMG / PuellaMagiMadokaMagica

For the record, familiars are said to grow into copies of the original witch, so basically familiars turned witches are [[CloningBlues clones]].

BUT something will be different. Either she brings back something with her or someone retains memories of the previous time loop or something, anything that implies that [[Franchise/TheDarkTower her struggle is fated to continue, but she's getting close]]. The show ends, everyone gets trolled and they announce a Season 2 that allows you to [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya buy the DVDs twice]].

* Then there is also that option where Gen will [[KillEmAll do his usual thing]]. I shudder to think of [[TheHeroDies a tree where Madoka and Homura is hanged]] by a, hypothetically, deranged [[FallenHero Sayaka]].

* Another thing. Homura is mentioned to be appearing in the series. Since it seems unlikely that Oriko will take place in the week between [[spoiler: the beginning of Homura's GroundhogDayLoop and when Homura transfers to Madoka's school]], it's possible that we will see Homura [[spoiler: in the hospital, before the loop begins]]. A likely reason we would see her there is because [[spoiler: Oriko is an IllGirl too, and they're in the same hospital. Isn't there a theory about Charlotte being the LittlestCancerPatient?]]

[[WMG:Incubators are AI running on the same tech as the Magical Girls.]]
I need to preface this by saying I know what WordOfGod said regarding how Kyubey's powers work [[DeathOfTheAuthor and I don't care]].

Something that often comes up in robot stories is the idea of the robot body being like [[ComputerEqualsMonitor a computer monitor]] with the actual brain elsewhere. If you've played ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'' you know what I'm talking about. At some point I wondered if this is how Kyubey came back in a new body (he can make extras) and [[SpotTheThread everything else just fell into place]]. Lack of emotion, difficulty understanding others and unwillingness to learn, single-minded focus on a single task, and most importantly, CreativeSterility. His race has been gathering energy using the same methods for what is implied to be eons and it gets rendered obsolete by a pair of random high-school girls. This also suggests his claim that without his race humans would be "living naked in caves" isn't true; he ''thinks'' it is because he or his race are projecting their own lack of innovation.

Since having your consciousness outside your body is exactly how Soul Gems work, it's possible the Incubators and Magical Girls operate the same way but the Incubators get better tech with a far longer range. [[FridgeHorror This also implies]] Kyubey has access to technology that could have prevented at least one death but chose not to use it.

And ''that'' is the main reason this probably isn't canon. If it were, [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees the show would have said so]].

I need to preface this by saying I know what WordOfGod said [[DeathOfTheAuthor and I don't care]].

Since having your consciousness outside your body is exactly how Soul Gems work, it's possible the Incubators and Magical Girls operate the same way but the Incubators get better tech with a far longer range. [[FridgeHorror This also implies]] Kyubey has access to technology that could have prevented at least one death but chose not to use it. And now I'm picturing the [[NightmareFuel truly horrific scenario]] where he upgrades the girls and it sounds all good and happy, but then one of them starts to witchify and [[DyingAsYourself decides to take their own life]] [[HeroicSacrifice so nobody has to suffer at the Witch's hands]]. Kyubey [[MoralEventHorizon resurrects them in a new identical body]]. [[YankTheDogsChain Because you don't die until he fucking says you do]].

[[WMG: How the series will end in the fourth movie.]]
The film will begin with Homura attending school with Madoka. As they go about their day, Madoka says hi to their other friends, and Homura subtly uses her powers to cause them some kind of minor misfortune out of spite (Mami spilling tea on herself, Kyoko and Nagisa's food being stolen by birds, Sayaka embarrassing herself in front of Kyosuke and Hitomi, etc). This has become routine for her. As the day ends and everyone heads home, Homura briefly stops to remind Kyubey of his duties. Kyubey at this point is in terrible pain from all the curses it has been forced to absorb, and laments that it is being forced to feel emotions (all of them negative). As Homura leaves, Kyubey begs her to end its existence. And then it realizes that it can use its own powers to do just that. Kyubey ceases to exist, and with nobody left to absorb the curses, things begin to go sideways. The change is subtle at first, so much so that Homura doesn't immediately notice, but as more and more people begin to get angry, to argue with each other and fight, she realizes that something is wrong, especially when Madoka comments on how terrible it is. Homura tries to fix everything, but the more she exerts her influence, the more curses appear, until every former magical girl that lives in her new world begins turning into a witch. This culminates in Madoka herself transforming into her witch form and lashing out at Homura, who desperately cries that everything she ever did, she did for Madoka's sake. The witches come together and combine into Walpurgisnacht, which threatens to destroy everything. Homura does battle with the witch, but finds that with Madoka's influence, they are evenly matched. Her universe begins to crack...and the Law of the Universe is able to get in. Using her powers, she separates her own witch from Walpurgisnacht and reabsorbs it into herself, becoming whole once more. Her powers and memories restored, Madoka begins separating the other witches from Walpurgisnacht one by one and restoring them, allowing her friends to join the fight. Eventually, Walpurgisnacht is defeated, and Homura collapses to the ground, exhausted. She realizes that she was wrong, and watches as Madoka approaches. She reaches her hands toward Homura...and wraps them around her neck. Confused, Homura looks at Madoka's face and is horrified. Gone is the gentle and merciful goddess with whom she fell in love, now there is only bitter rage. As Madoka tightens her grip, Homura's earring, housing both of their soul gems, begins to glow. Madoka's gem begins to devour Homura's, and Madoka snaps her neck with a sickening crack. Standing up, Madoka softly proclaims that she has been too lenient; her wish was to destroy all witches, and that is exactly what she is going to do. She suddenly rounds on Sayaka, who is too shocked to flee, and her soul is extinguished. Kyoko, Mami, and Nagisa follow soon after. Madoka begins erasing every magical girl in attendance, followed by the destruction of Valhalla and every soul she has ever taken there. She then targets every potential magical girl, followed by every human, and finally the universe itself ceases to exist. As Madoka floats in the empty void, she reflects that the incubators' efforts to save the universe from destruction only served to damn it, and now there is only one witch left to destroy. She places a hand on her chest and obliterates her soul gem, and a hole burns in the film.

As a cruel twist, she musters up the courage to confess only to learn that he [[{{Asexuality}} loves music more than he does human beings]] and be Friend Zoned. Or he has someone else in mind.

[[WMG: MagicalGirl and Witches are NotSoDifferent]]

In episode 5 Kyubei asked about Homura's making contract with him, answers along lines ''She did and she didn't''. It's rather ambiguous answer. So maybe, Homura was friend with a girl sharing Madoka's idealistic views (well, pre episode 3 idealistic views), who thought being Magical Girl is great, fun and games, so she wished Homura was Magical Girl with her. Then RealityEnsues, original Magical Girl bites the dust (or is bitten to dust) and Homura is left in the witch slaying business alone and bereft of initial benefit of having her wish granted. It wouldn't be hard to see how this would result in her cynical view of Magical Girls

[[WMG: Creator/FUNimation will do the dub, and [[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Nodoka's]] voice actor will be [[PunnyName Madoka]].]]

** And remember her FamilyUnfriendlyAesop about how Madoka should "make mistakes" ''in Sayaka's stead''? "Tell white lies, run away when things look bad. You'll realise later that this was the best thing to do. Make mistakes now, '''before you get old.''' You heal faster when you're young." And [[spoiler:Magical Girls...are younger witches.]]

* This troper think it will be the reverse. From the frame here it is more likely that Homura will become a cat in the end of the series

[[WMG: Homura's reason to like Madoka...]]

[[WMG:Both our protagonists will be driven to make their wishes by [[spoiler: Mami's death.]]]]

* Allow this troper to continue from that theory...

[[WMG: Kyubey doesn't make contracts with boys because they're more likely to be content with the outcomes of their wishes.]]
* A boy might make foolish wishes, but he might also wish to be strong or cool or smart, things which are less likely to end in tragedy. Also, finding out that you're technically no longer alive? "Cool!" Not exactly the response Kyubey would want if he wants to turn tragedy into fuel to extend the life of the universe.
** Not a very good explanation - there's no reason a girl couldn't wish for any of those things or enjoy being a lich.
*** Probably a whole lot less likely. I also wouldn't be surprised if Kyubey actively avoids girls likely to enjoy being lichs.

* This might be purely meta-stupidity, but I just thought about it. After giving this series a chance and absolutely loving the shit out of it, this troper looked on this very site for other Deconstructions of MagicalGirl stories, coming across both Literature/SailorNothing and Manga/MahouShoujoNanteMouIiDesuKara, and I noticed an interesting thing about one thing the 2 have in common and Madoka doesn't, Both Sailor Nothing and Nantemouiidesukara's main characters watched and enjoyed Magical Girl anime. In fact, in Sailor Nothing, that's what kind of tips off Himei that this might not be like TV, because "it (the TransformationTrinket introduction) wasn't this much of a hack job." But Madoka has no references to it whatsoever, even though all 3 take place around the same time, and Nantemouiidesukara is also an anime (albeit shorts). BUT, there are multiple things that would probably tip a magical girl anime Otaku off that this "wasn't how it happens on TV", like the pure NightmareFuel that is the witch's labyrinths. We also know that [[spoiler: Kyubey's race has basically shaped human history since cavemen times, and, as discussed earlier in the page, could've bred the humans (more specifically teenage girls) to be more efficient at creating witch-transforming-based energy, like cattle. so, this might just be putting 2 extremely complicated numbers together by hand, but the Incubators might've stopped the magical girl anime genre from existing in this universe to keep teenage girls who are into that sort of thing from noticing the big differences and refusing to contract due to it not happening like that on TV.]]

* NOT evolve into ferrets. (Evolution takes way too long for that imo.) The form Kyubey takes that we see in the show is just them using small amounts of magic to project an image into the past that can speak and appears to be physical. That's why Kyubey isn't too worried when Homura shoots one of the bodies up, it's no more real to these future people than a video game avatar is to us. The mission of these avatars is to collect energy. Perhaps they simply chose a form that was cute and pleasing to little girls, because what they look like now would be too scary for them.
* This also gets around the Aliens Speaking Japanese problem, they would have archeological records of every past language, so going to the past becomes a simple matter of adequate historical research to understand the language and culture. Maybe they even have something like cyber-brains that can store much more language data than a human brain currently can.

[[WMG: The Incubators once tried creating "Magical Boys"...]]
...and it went so [[GoneHorriblyWrong horribly wrong]], they never ever attempted it again. Indeed, to this very day, saying the word "Warlock" to Kyubey is a surefire way to make him trimble in fear and run off to hide.

...and it went so [[GoneHorriblyWrong horribly wrong]], they never ever attempted it again. Indeed, to this day, saying the word "Warlock" to Kyubey is a surefire way to make him trimble in fear.

...and it went so horribly wrong, they never ever attempted it again. Indeed, to this day, saying the word "Warlock" to Kyubey is a surefire way to make him trimble in fear.

...and it went horribly wrong, so they never attempted it again. To this day, saying the word "Warlock" to Kyubey is a surefire way to make him trimble in fear.

Are created whenever someone makes a wish to become a Magical Girl. The person who makes the wish will get to be a Magical Girl, but their negative emotions, regrets, doubts, or anything like that are used to form a "curse" of sorts, allowing a Witch to form at the same time, based on the negative feelings of that person. And yes, I did this get this idea from KingdomHearts.

* We can even get a {{Faust}} reference out of this, though it would be from a different version of Faust than the one referred to in Madoka. If Walpurgis Night is a FusionDance, it can then be thought of a horrifically twisted version of YouAreNotAlone (a recurring theme in this series). In Marlowe's ''Theatre/DoctorFaustus'' it's none other than Mephistopheles who says "''[[GratuitousLatin Solamen miseris socios habuisse doloris]]'' (It is a comfort to the wretched to have companions in misery)" or more simply "Misery loves company". Being that witches are embodiments of despair, it only makes sense they would bond - literally! - with others like themselves.

** How is it jossed? While her body is about the age it looks, we have no idea how many times she's lived through her time with Madoka, except to set a minimum, and she has RippleEffectProofMemory. Sounds to me that, aside from the [[GroundhogDayLoop time-looping]]/AlternateReality source of the extra time, the original WMG is dead on.

* This might be purely meta-stupidity, but I just thought about it. After giving this series a chance and absolutely loving the shit out of it, this troper looked on this very site for other Deconstructions of MagicalGirl stories, coming across both Literature/SailorNothing and MahouShoujoNanteMouIiDesuKara, and I noticed an interesting thing about one thing the 2 have in common and Madoka doesn't, Both Sailor Nothing and Nantemouiidesukara's main characters watched and enjoyed Magical Girl anime. In fact, in Sailor Nothing, that's what kind of tips off Himei that this might not be like TV, because "it (the TransformationTrinket introduction) wasn't this much of a hack job." But Madoka has no references to it whatsoever, even though all 3 take place around the same time, and Nantemouiidesukara is also an anime (albeit shorts). BUT, there are multiple things that would probably tip a magical girl anime Otaku off that this "wasn't how it happens on TV", like the pure NightmareFuel that is the witch's labyrinths. We also know that [[spoiler: Kyubey's race has basically shaped human history since cavemen times, and, as discussed earlier in the page, could've bred the humans (more specifically teenage girls) to be more efficient at creating witch-transforming-based energy, like cattle. so, this might just be putting 2 extremely complicated numbers together by hand, but the Incubators might've stopped the magical girl anime genre from existing in this universe to keep teenage girls who are into that sort of thing from noticing the big differences and refusing to contract due to it not happening like that on TV.]]