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* It's worth noting that this doesn't necessarily invalidate the above WMG about Darkrai having good intentions: perhaps he wanted to stop the events of Gates to Infinity Super Mystery Dungeon, but he started getting more and more desperate to save the world, and began getting more extreme-and thus left himself wide open to Dark Matters's machinations. By the time of Explorers, he's fallen to the corruption of one of the very entities that he was trying to stop.

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* It's worth noting that this doesn't necessarily invalidate the above WMG about Darkrai having good intentions: perhaps he wanted to stop the events of Gates to Infinity or Super Mystery Dungeon, but he started getting more and more desperate to save the world, and began getting more extreme-and extreme in his attempts-and thus left himself wide open to Dark Matters's machinations. By the time of Explorers, he's fallen to the corruption of one of the very entities that he was trying to stop.stop.


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[[WMG: The Treeshroud Forest Time Gear used to be located somewhere else.]]
Compared to the other four, it's relatively unguarded, with no Guardian at the end and no midpoint. Ergo, It's possible that Treeshroud Forest was merely the pre-decided backup location if anything compromised a Time Gear's safety-which explains why it's a simpler Dungeon. It's a backup location and thus not as heavily guarded.
* The original location was Dark Crater, explaining the Time Gear that was rumored to be in a Volcano. However, something happened that led to its Guardian abandoned his post and the Time Gear being discovered, necessitating its move to Treeshroud Forest. (It was moved Very Carefully, with the help of the Lake Trio and either Dialga or a Celebi to prevent time from stopping.)
** As an extension of the above, Darkrai was originally the Guardian of the Dark Crater/Treeshroud Forest Time Gear, before something happened and he turned evil.

[[WMG: Darkrai's post-postgame recruitment is non-canon.]]
Instead, he's dumped into [[Anime/PokemonTheRiseOfDarkrai Alamos Town]] with amnesia, and becomes the heroic Darkrai of the tenth movie.
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[[WMG: The Hero & Partner got Grovyle's Message at the end of Episode 5.]]
There's a textbox after the episode ends but before the credits saying, "Hero, Partner, can you hear me? We are still alive!!" This could have been what ultimately reached the hero and the partner.
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Remember how Jirachi warned him that "it might take a while?" That's because the threads of fate first had to be cast out before he could work with them. In the ''original'' timeline, nobody came back to the past to fix things -- therefore, your cowardly partner lost their Relic Fragment on the beach that day and never worked up the courage to join the Guild. When your hero and Grovyle made their trip back and the hero got thrown off course, Jirachi secretly stepped in, working his magic to help [[CursedWithAwesome turn them into a Pokémon]] (rather than just plain die) and ensured they landed safely on the beach -- putting them right in their future partner's path and ensuring they'd be able to help recover the Relic Fragment. That way, your amnesiac hero would gain the experience and strength needed to ultimately fight powerful Pokémon and save everything, and Bidoof got his [[SenpaiKohai buddies]]. Everybody wins!

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Remember how Jirachi warned him that "it might take a while?" That's because the threads of fate first had to be cast out before he could work with them. In the ''original'' timeline, nobody came back to the past to fix things -- therefore, your cowardly partner lost their Relic Fragment on the beach that day and never worked up the courage to join the Guild. When your hero and Grovyle made their trip back and the hero got thrown off course, Jirachi secretly stepped in, working his magic to help [[CursedWithAwesome turn them into a Pokémon]] (rather than just plain die) and ensured they landed safely on the beach -- putting them right in their future partner's path and ensuring they'd be able to help recover the Relic Fragment. That way, your amnesiac hero would gain the experience and strength needed to ultimately fight powerful Pokémon and save everything, and Bidoof got his [[SenpaiKohai buddies]].buddies. Everybody wins!
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* It's worth noting that this doesn't necessarily invalidate the above WMG about Darkrai begin well-intentioned extremist: perhaps he wanted to stop the events of Gates to Infinity Super Mystery Dungeon, but he started getting more and more desperate to save the world, and began getting more extreme-and thus left himself wide open to Dark Matters's machinations. By the time of Explorers, he'd forgotten his original goal in favor of world domination, having fallen to the corruption of one of the very entities that he was trying to stop.

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* It's worth noting that this doesn't necessarily invalidate the above WMG about Darkrai begin well-intentioned extremist: having good intentions: perhaps he wanted to stop the events of Gates to Infinity Super Mystery Dungeon, but he started getting more and more desperate to save the world, and began getting more extreme-and thus left himself wide open to Dark Matters's machinations. By the time of Explorers, he'd forgotten his original goal in favor of world domination, having he's fallen to the corruption of one of the very entities that he was trying to stop.

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What if Darkrai did what he did to try and prevent the events of the following two games? It could be possible that his thought process was that if he completely halted the flow of time, that would stop the Bittercold or Dark Matter from risisng. Sure, the sun would no longer shine and one legendary Pokemon would go mad, but it was a trade off in exchange for protecting the entire planet from ruin. Also, this wouldn't be the only time that Darkrai was mistakenly viewed as a villain by everyone around him

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What if Darkrai did what he did to try and prevent the events of the following two games? It could be possible that his thought process was that if he completely halted the flow of time, that would stop the Bittercold or Dark Matter from risisng. Sure, the sun would no longer shine and one legendary Pokemon would go mad, but it was a trade off in exchange for protecting the entire planet from ruin. Also, this wouldn't be the only time that Darkrai was mistakenly viewed as a villain by everyone around himhim.

[[WMG: Alternatively, Darkrai was being influenced by Dark Matter.]]
Darkrai as a species are generally neutral or good, so. So perhaps Darkrai was being influenced by an outside force, something that had influenced and manipulated him to be evil.
* It's worth noting that this doesn't necessarily invalidate the above WMG about Darkrai begin well-intentioned extremist: perhaps he wanted to stop the events of Gates to Infinity Super Mystery Dungeon, but he started getting more and more desperate to save the world, and began getting more extreme-and thus left himself wide open to Dark Matters's machinations. By the time of Explorers, he'd forgotten his original goal in favor of world domination, having fallen to the corruption of one of the very entities that he was trying to stop.
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Remember how Jirachi warned him that "it might take a while?" That's because the threads of fate first had to be cast out before he could work with them. In the ''original'' timeline, nobody came back to the past to fix things -- therefore, your cowardly partner lost their Relic Fragment on the beach that day and never worked up the courage to join the Guild. When your hero and Grovyle made their trip back and the hero got thrown off course, Jirachi secretly stepped in, working his magic to help [[CursedWithAwesome turn them into a Pokémon]] (rather than just plain die) and ensured they landed safely on the beach -- putting them right in their future partner's path and ensuring they'd be able to help recover the Relic Fragment. That way, your amnesiac hero would gain the experience and strength needed to ultimately fight powerful Pokémon and save everything, and Bidoof got his [[SempaiKouhai buddies]]. Everybody wins!

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Remember how Jirachi warned him that "it might take a while?" That's because the threads of fate first had to be cast out before he could work with them. In the ''original'' timeline, nobody came back to the past to fix things -- therefore, your cowardly partner lost their Relic Fragment on the beach that day and never worked up the courage to join the Guild. When your hero and Grovyle made their trip back and the hero got thrown off course, Jirachi secretly stepped in, working his magic to help [[CursedWithAwesome turn them into a Pokémon]] (rather than just plain die) and ensured they landed safely on the beach -- putting them right in their future partner's path and ensuring they'd be able to help recover the Relic Fragment. That way, your amnesiac hero would gain the experience and strength needed to ultimately fight powerful Pokémon and save everything, and Bidoof got his [[SempaiKouhai [[SenpaiKohai buddies]]. Everybody wins!

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Time and Space are "constant" forces in the world which
encompass and surround everything, somewhat like energy fields. The Dimensional Scream
now reaches from inside the person out into these energy fields (Time and Space) and
accesses them. This is how the visions are generally caused.

Now, in the future, time has stopped, so one of these 'fields' is as good as nonexistent.
However, the locations of the Time Gears are essential for the continued flow of time,
right? So maybe these locations were some sort of 'focus points', where time ran
especially strongly in the past; in the future, however, they might be the only place
where residues of 'Time' can be found (as I said, I'm talking about time as some sort of
field or energy). That is why, in the future, only places related to the Time Gears caused
the Dimensional Scream.

In the past, however, time still flows everywhere. As such, the Dimensional Scream can be
triggered not only near Time Gears, but also in totally unrelated locations.

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Time and Space are "constant" forces in the world which
which encompass and surround everything, somewhat like energy fields. The Dimensional Scream
Scream now reaches from inside the person out into these energy fields (Time and Space) and
and accesses them. This is how the visions are generally caused.

Now, in the future, time has stopped, so one of these 'fields' is as good as nonexistent.
nonexistent. However, the locations of the Time Gears are essential for the continued flow of time,
time, right? So maybe these locations were some sort of 'focus points', where time ran
ran especially strongly in the past; in the future, however, they might be the only place
place where residues of 'Time' can be found (as I said, I'm talking about time as some sort of
of field or energy). That is why, in the future, only places related to the Time Gears caused
caused the Dimensional Scream.

In the past, however, time still flows everywhere. As such, the Dimensional Scream can be
be triggered not only near Time Gears, but also in totally unrelated locations.
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[[WMG: Darkrai was actually a WellIntentionedExtremist]]
What if Darkrai did what he did to try and prevent the events of the following two games? It could be possible that his thought process was that if he completely halted the flow of time, that would stop the Bittercold or Dark Matter from risisng. Sure, the sun would no longer shine and one legendary Pokemon would go mad, but it was a trade off in exchange for protecting the entire planet from ruin. Also, this wouldn't be the only time that Darkrai was mistakenly viewed as a villain by everyone around him
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* But who was Grovyle's partner, then? Did Darkrai somehow get sent to the BadFuture (which metaphysically no longer existed at that point), partner with him, and then get lost in the timestream ''again''? Does Grovyle just have detailed memories of a partner that didn't exist, along with everyone else from that timeline?
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Obligatory not my theory. As paradoxical as it may seem, it's possible that Darkrai became the player once he tried to escape through time. After shattering the time portal that Darkrai was escaping through, Palkia states that Darkrai would likely wind up somewhere in the past with no recollection of his intentions or, more specifically, his memories. Sound familiar? While Darkrai claims responsibility for the interference which separated Grovyle and the player when traveling to the past, what if all those memories were fabricated by Palkia? Perhaps Palkia knowingly sent Darkrai back in time to undo his own mess as punishment. "The distortion of space" was just a convenient excuse for Palkia to get involved and have the player confront Darkrai- or himself.

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Obligatory not my theory. As paradoxical as it may seem, it's possible that Darkrai became the player once he tried to escape through time. After shattering the time portal that Darkrai was escaping through, Palkia states that Darkrai would likely wind up somewhere in the past with no recollection of his intentions or, more specifically, his memories. Sound familiar? While Darkrai claims responsibility for the interference which separated Grovyle and the player when traveling to the past, what if all those memories were fabricated by Palkia? Perhaps Palkia knowingly sent Darkrai back in time to undo his own mess as punishment. "The distortion of space" was just a convenient excuse for Palkia to get involved and have the player confront Darkrai- Darkrai; or himself.himself.
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[[WMG:The player and Darkrai are actually the same person.]]
Obligatory not my theory. As paradoxical as it may seem, it's possible that Darkrai became the player once he tried to escape through time. After shattering the time portal that Darkrai was escaping through, Palkia states that Darkrai would likely wind up somewhere in the past with no recollection of his intentions or, more specifically, his memories. Sound familiar? While Darkrai claims responsibility for the interference which separated Grovyle and the player when traveling to the past, what if all those memories were fabricated by Palkia? Perhaps Palkia knowingly sent Darkrai back in time to undo his own mess as punishment. "The distortion of space" was just a convenient excuse for Palkia to get involved and have the player confront Darkrai- or himself.
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[[WMG: Dugtrio is the same Diglett from Rescue Team, all grown up and fascinated by the sea, because his father explored it, or so he says.]]

And his son now doesn't believe him, it would explain their contrasting personalities between games.
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[[WMG:Chatot was written to be a character you'd likely hate [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste on purpose.]]]]
Notice that in Gen V, outside of events, there weren't any Pokémon that introduced shit like Abilities that were useless outside of one specific set of circumstances. Even Archeops, which has an ability that weakens it when it drops below half health, has it because it has a base Attack of 140, and was introduced alongside Reuniclus, who can learn Skill Swap, and have Magic Guard, allowing Archeops to use Head Smash all it wants.

The fact that they chose a Pokémon with a "gimmick" to be a character that people would hate, and then made Gen V as gimmickless as possible might indicate that they realized that people didn't like the "gimmicky" Pokémon, and did this to say "okay fine, we won't do the useless gimmicky ones anymore."
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[[WMG:Wigglytuff knew about Team Skull's intentions during the guild's expedition.]]
Given Wigglytuff's character, I think Wigglytuff only let Team Skull onboard so he could arrest them. The timeline for the WMG goes like this.
* '''Team Skull shows up:''' Wigglytuff just acts like his friendly self, while inwardly remaining suspicious of them. He doesn't say anything however, as that wouldn't be like him, and it would alert Team Skull of his suspicions.
* '''The Perfect Apple Incident:''' Wigglytuff initially believes that the player and partner failed, but once Team Skull arrive with a Perfect Apple, Wigglytuff realizes that the player and partner aren't to blame, and that his suspicions about Team Skull are justified.[[note]]It's not like retrieving Perfect Apples is difficult, and the player and partner have proven themselves before. Plus, the larder's stock of Perfect Apples was reduced to "zero", according to Chatot, so [[ContrivedCoincidence how come Team Skull had one conveniently ready for him?]][[/note]]
* '''Expedition:''' Team Skull are sent on their own path, so as to keep them from messing with any guildmembers.
* '''At Groudon Statue:''' Sending the player and partner onwards, while he stays there with Team Skull, keeping them from taking the treasure. Once Team Skull try and attack Wigglytuff, he retaliates, and is about to arrest them when his Perfect Apple starts rolling away, causing him to leave the ruffians there.
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[[WMG:The guild doesn't actually have a rule forcing members to give up 90% of their earnings.]]
Chatot made that up and is unfairly hoarding the riches earned by the explorers who actually went out and did all the work while Chatot lazed around.
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* Grovyle does say he has all the "necessary" Time Gears, which seems to support this. It would be an odd wording choice if there were literally only five.



[[WMG: How the PMD2 protagonist got their power...]]
The Dusk Forest in the Future. Specifically, it is/was/will be Viridian Forest, and, as in Pokemon Special, it can grant people powers. [[spoiler: You never find out what the protagonist's life was like, excluding what Grovyle has stated, so you would have no clue where the protagonist was born. The distortion of time affected Viridian Forest, but Celebi, whom for the sake of WMG shall be considered guardian of the forest, protected herself and by extension her forest, by shrouding the forest in a dark mist. Years pass, the forest has not been granting powers since world's paralysis; humans are avoiding pokemon to protect themselves, so the gift power not being used and builds up. Then, a human family on the run has a child while hiding in the forest. Celebi, seeing an opportunity, grants the human child powers, but due to the build up of non-used gift power and the distortion of time, the forest's gift becomes the Dimensional Scream. Said gifted child child came back to the forest some years later, and Celebi, realising what has happened, introduces him/her to Grovyle, who was at the time a mere Treecko.]] And everything went from there...

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[[WMG: How the PMD2 [=PMD2=] protagonist got their power...]]
The Dusk Forest in the Future. Specifically, it is/was/will be Viridian Forest, and, as in Pokemon Special, it can grant people powers. [[spoiler: You never find out what the protagonist's life was like, excluding what Grovyle has stated, so you would have no clue where the protagonist was born. The distortion of time affected Viridian Forest, but Celebi, whom for the sake of WMG shall be considered guardian of the forest, protected herself and by extension her forest, by shrouding the forest in a dark mist. Years pass, the forest has not been granting powers since world's paralysis; humans are avoiding pokemon to protect themselves, so the gift power not being used and builds up. Then, a human family on the run has a child while hiding in the forest. Celebi, seeing an opportunity, grants the human child powers, but due to the build up of non-used gift power and the distortion of time, the forest's gift becomes the Dimensional Scream. Said gifted child child came back to the forest some years later, and Celebi, realising realizing what has happened, introduces him/her to Grovyle, who was at the time a mere Treecko.]] And everything went from there...



It's stated early on in Time/Darkness/Sky that the distortion of time is stopping pokemon from evolving. So how did Grovyle manage to evolve from Treecko? Answer: He didn't. He was turned into a pokemon as well, but never revealed it to his partner, as it was painful enough seeing them unable to remember him.

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It's stated early on in Time/Darkness/Sky that the distortion of time is stopping pokemon Pokémon from evolving. So how did Grovyle manage to evolve from Treecko? Answer: He didn't. He was turned into a pokemon Pokémon as well, but never revealed it to his partner, as it was painful enough seeing them unable to remember him.
* What about Dusknoir, then? And there are other evolved Pokémon in the future dungeons, too, [=IIRC=].



* Consider this : We know from the dimensional scream, the player and the Grovyle had visited the Fogbound lake in the future. Now why would they need to go there? If they are simply wanted to change the past, there's no need. Unless they were trying to take time gears in the future...
* Another thing to consider : Why would they need to change the past anyway, instead of just fixing the Temporal Tower in the future? Changing the past is basically erasing themselves from history. Unless, they were really desperate and had no choice...
* Another question : The human had dimensional scream, yes, but still, to travel alone with just two companions in the future is dangerous. The human was either a Badass, or he was originally [[FridgeHorror wasn't alone]].
* Conclusion : The human and his partners had tried before, and failed badly.
** It was like this : In the dark future, there was a human who had Dimensional Scream ability. Knowing he was the only one who can [[TheChosenOne save the world]], he went on adventures to collect the time gears and returned the Temporal Tower back to normal. Of course he wasn't alone, he had several pokemon partners accompanying him, including Grovyle.

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* Consider this : this: We know from the dimensional scream, the player and the Grovyle had visited the Fogbound lake in the future. Now why would they need to go there? If they are simply wanted to change the past, there's no need. Unless they were trying to take time gears in the future...
* Another thing to consider : consider: Why would they need to change the past anyway, instead of just fixing the Temporal Tower in the future? Changing the past is basically erasing themselves from history. Unless, they were really desperate and had no choice...
* Another question : question: The human had dimensional scream, yes, but still, to travel alone with just two companions in the future is dangerous. The human was either a Badass, or he was originally [[FridgeHorror wasn't alone]].
* Conclusion : Conclusion: The human and his partners had tried before, and failed badly.
** It was like this : this: In the dark future, there was a human who had Dimensional Scream ability. Knowing he was the only one who can [[TheChosenOne save the world]], he went on adventures to collect the time gears and returned the Temporal Tower back to normal. Of course he wasn't alone, he had several pokemon partners accompanying him, including Grovyle.



[[WMG:The mons from the BadFuture revived in the game's present, or a relatively short time after]]

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Of note is that in Super you can recruit both the characters from the bad future ''and'' the guild members (who haven't so much as evolved since the events of Explorers, mind you), showing that they exist simultaneously. Then again, this detail could also be explained by Celebi time traveling with everyone.

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Of note is that in Super you can recruit both the characters from the bad future ''and'' the guild members (who haven't so much as evolved since the events of Explorers, mind you), showing that they exist simultaneously. Then again, this detail could also be explained by Celebi time traveling with everyone.everyone.
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* Or he's Macho Man RandySavage in Pokémon form.

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* Or he's Macho Man RandySavage Wrestling/RandySavage in Pokémon form.
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* It is also relevant that the partner knew how to sneak through town without being noticed, and that the town members didn't really know them before the beginning of the story. They also have a secret house in the mountain, with steps and all. I personally believe that the partner was born/hatched (or whatever) there, and the parents died while they were very young. This is what allows them to form such a strong bond with the playable character so fast as grovile said. They also cling to their relic fragment and their dream of being an explorer to give some meaning to an otherwise meaningless life.
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* Jossed. They're just fine in Super.




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* Confirmed as of Super (though Koffing is dickish enough to throw you a Monster House during his mission).




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* Supported by Super, which has separate recruitment for gender differences but has no shinies other than Explorers Celebi. The non-shiny Celebi is addressed as male, to top it off.



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[[WMG: Everything in ''Time/Darkness/Sky'' is Bidoof's Fault]]
Bidoof wished to Jirachi that he could have friends. That caused Darkrai to rise to power and spin his evil schemes to dethrone Dialga and Palkia, which caused the complex series of events leading to a human getting trapped in the body of a Pokémon and joining the guild, [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor thereby granting his wish]]. Never, ever mess with probability!
* Assuming that Team Charm's special episode takes place a fair ways into the past (say, a decade or so; they're not yet famous, and Wigglytuff's still exploring solo), then no, [[TitleDrop Bidoof's wish]] can't be it, because Darkrai had already taken the Time Gears from the Temporal Tower by that point (quite the slow-acting plan, by all implications), and Bidoof's spent maybe a few months at the guild (at most) before the story starts.
** So Bidoof actually saved the world?
** You're forgetting that time travel is involved in this game.
*** No, I'm not, but where are you going with this? The Time Gears were already established as not to be removed from the areas Darkrai hid them in by that episode, I don't think rumors like that spread through time travel, just good ol' word-of-mouth.
*** For one thing, it is never explicitly stated that Darkrai stole the time gears from Temporal Tower. If removing the time gears from Temporal Tower was directly responsible for bringing down the tower, then Dialga must have been okay with them being gone during his gradual descent into insanity. (It is speculated by many that the gears are okay being hidden around the world, that placing them back into the tower is simply a fail-safe mechanism in case Dialga loses control for whatever reason, which was needed after Darkrai sabotaged the tower.) For another thing, Darkrai travels through time. Upon awaking he could have warped into the past to begin his scheme long ago, creating a StableTimeLoop.
*** There is nothing hinting that the "return the time gears to the Tower" thing is a mere failsafe; certainly the way Grovyle kept talking about it implies that the Tower is the gears' original location.
*** Considering the Time gears are implied to regulate the flow of time in the specific region they're in, it doesn't seem likely that Darkrai stole them to destabilize the tower. This is only helped along by the fact that removing one stops time in that area, which, if the "Stolen by Darkrai" theory were true, should not occur.
*** I think the time gears regulate time (as time did go out of control in the area around where it was kept once it was removed) but the failsafe at Temporal Tower resets that. Or, perhaps Darkrai might try to destroy a time gear and they were hidden so the failsafe could be turned on.

[[WMG: Alternately, Bidoof's Wish helped ''save'' the world.]]
Remember how Jirachi warned him that "it might take a while?" That's because the threads of fate first had to be cast out before he could work with them. In the ''original'' timeline, nobody came back to the past to fix things -- therefore, your cowardly partner lost their Relic Fragment on the beach that day and never worked up the courage to join the Guild. When your hero and Grovyle made their trip back and the hero got thrown off course, Jirachi secretly stepped in, working his magic to help [[CursedWithAwesome turn them into a Pokémon]] (rather than just plain die) and ensured they landed safely on the beach -- putting them right in their future partner's path and ensuring they'd be able to help recover the Relic Fragment. That way, your amnesiac hero would gain the experience and strength needed to ultimately fight powerful Pokémon and save everything, and Bidoof got his [[SempaiKouhai buddies]]. Everybody wins!

[[WMG: Jirachi didn't actually grant Bidoof's wish at all.]]
Think about it for a bit. Remember Jirachi saying that 'it might take a while'? He probably figured that new apprentices would arrive sooner or later and that Bidoof would be able to do things his own way once it happened. He made a few flashy lights and went back to sleep, fairly sure it would come true by itself eventually. Heck, he might have done this for a few wishes that didn't need any power and would most likely happen by fate.

[[WMG: Giving out Eggs as rewards is just how adoption works in the PMD world -- or at least in Treasure Town.]]
There aren't any orphanages or other such services available, unless you count Chansey's Daycare... and even ''then'', she only cares for the eggs until they ''hatch''. If you want to ensure that a hatchling you can't care for yourself is going to be well taken care of, your best bet is to seek out an exploration team or other responsible-looking individuals and hope they accept it.

[[WMG: Magnezone's police are severely understaffed.]]
With the outbreak of bad Pokémon everywhere, most of the police's resources are being sunk into maintaining the prison system and ensuring offenders don't stage a riot or break out. As a result, Magnezone can't send out many officers to catch crooks -- he's barely able to maintain a backup escort for ''himself''! Thus, he worked out an agreement with Wigglytuff's Guild to post bounties. There's no shortage of exploration teams passing through, of all different types; they help ease the crushing workload by taking down criminals (especially ones Magnezone wouldn't be well-matched against), and let the police take care of the cleanup.

[[WMG: At least some of the recruits who join your team are circumventing the whole Guild system.]]
Joining the Guild means signing away most of your profits and having to put up with [[PointyHairedBoss Chatot]] all the time... is it any wonder Pokémon might be put off by more than Wigglytuff's reputation? By contrast, joining an apprentice's ''team'' may mean being barred from "official Guild expeditions" and the like, but you still get to go on ''most'' adventures, getting stronger and more experienced... Thus, certain Pokémon (particularly the ones who join in Treasure Town) may simply be exploiting a loophole, and intend to branch off into their ''own'' Teams at some point in the future.
* Well, going off the being barred from official guild expeditions point... I'm pretty sure Chatot actually referred to your recruits as not being guild members. So I'd say that this guess is actually pretty close to canon.

[[WMG: Wigglytuff's Guild helps fund the various businesses in Treasure Town.]]
Only a few of the shops charge enough to earn an independent profit; the others are supported by Wigglytuff's goodwill. That's why the Guild takes so much of the reward money; they aren't just covering their own expenses, they're ensuring that Kangaskhan, Spinda, Marowak and the others can stay open.
** The Marowak Dojo's backstory folds nicely into this: the original owner had to close up shop because he couldn't afford it any longer. After the Wigglytuff Guild was formed and he started supporting the other shops, Marowak was able to ask for financial support and reestablish it.

[[WMG: Team Skull died from the injuries they sustained during the late game.]]
In ''Time/Darkness'', their last appearance is in [[spoiler: Brine Cave]], heavily wounded. Having them [[KilledOffForReal die there]] casts their seemingly lighthearted chat about how they helped [[PetTheDog fix a problem they caused in the first place]] in a very different light. They don't ''honestly'' think that one act makes up for a lifetime spent hurting others; it's just easier than reflecting on how their selfishness and [[{{Greed}} greed]] led them to a violent end. They ''know'' they're dying; this is just their way of [[GoOutWithASmile going out with a smile]].

[[WMG: The Time/Darkness/Sky hero was revived.]]
Grovyle somehow had one created from preserved DNA so he could partner with him/her and use the Dimensional Scream ability.
* Perhaps Mewtwo helped.
* Alternately, Ho-oh did it, gifting some random - or maybe not-so-random - set of bones life and additional abilities (ie the Dimensional Scream), like how he revived the Legendary Beasts.

[[WMG:In ''Time/Darkness/Sky'', Dimensional Scream is an actual Ability]]
An "Ability" is, of course, different from an ability. Much like how some Pokémon have Abilities like Static or Poison Point, some humans have the Ability Dimensional Scream. It is unique to the species, and perhaps fairly rare.
This only leaves the question of what the other human Ability is.
* It's probably something along the lines of "Nonfluent: This Pokemon can't understand a word anyone else is saying."
** Which would suggest that the PC could converse with Grovyle even before being transformed.
*** Well, there ''was'' that flashback/dimensional scream at the Groudon statue.
*** Does this mean that N, who could understand Pokemon, has the Dimensional Scream ability?
* Perhaps it's a Hidden Ability.

[[WMG:Primal Dialga is not responsible for any of his actions.]]
He's gone every bit as wild as the Pokemon you meet in the Mystery Dungeons by the time Temporal Tower collapses. He's relying more or less completely on instinct, and is only just rational enough to express his feelings and vague concepts via telepathy, primarily to Dusknoir, his "Trainer". Any appearances of a higher degree of rationality or planning is the result of Darkrai acting like a voice in his head.
* Why is this thing in the WMG page in the first place?! It's already established that Primal Dialga was under control from someone else, though I remember the culprit to be ''Darkrai'', and Dusknoir the ''mercenary'' that Darkrai hired indirectly through Primal Dialga.
** I'm pretty sure the "relying completely on instinct" bit was also established in the game.

[[WMG: The Dimensional Scream functioned differently in the future due to just how [[CrapsackWorld horrible the world had become]].]]
Normally, the Dimensional Scream gives its bearer important information that can be used to avoid danger or keep situations from getting worse. For instance, had the hero heeded their first visions, they could have completely defused the situation ''before'' it unfolded; similarly, the visions at Waterfall Cave let them find their way through quickly (instead of dragging out a potentially dangerous search of the area) and could have helped avoid a major trap.

However, in the BadFuture, ''everything'' is dangerous -- there's no relatively "easy" way to avoid peril. Dangerous Pokemon are running wild, time itself has gone insane, the only order imposed on this world comes from evil minions... and all this was sparked off by Temporal Tower's degradation. Therefore, the "simplest" solution is far from simple: [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong fixing the problem in the past]]. And for that, they need the Time Gears. Thus, every vision in the future is linked to the Time Gears, as that's what is needed to save the world. The Dimensional Scream doesn't offer information on any other options because ''it can't see any''.

[[WMG: The Dimensional Scream can be controlled; however, the Hero never received any such training.]]
After all, in the future, the only visions they received were linked to Time Gears. They weren't aware that this wasn't the ''only'' function the Dimensional Scream had; thus, even if they'd retained all their memories, receiving ''other'' visions in the past still would have shocked them. With proper training, they could control when they have such visions, and possibly even aim for specific information; however, without a knowledgeable source to receive such training ''from''...

[[WMG: Grovyle is [[Anime/YuGiOh Yami Yugi]]]]
After Yami [[spoiler: left Yugi's world forever at the end of the series,]] he became entangled in another dimension and was [[InvoluntaryShapeshifting transformed into a strange creature]]. This explains why Grovyle's disposition and attitude is similar to Yami's. Seriously, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOlqvToq4HU just listen to his voice in the TV special]].
* In addition, based on his near-loving obsession with the sea, Dugtrio is Mako Tsunami. Probably the abridged version. He even claims the sea can talk at one point (saying it wishes the hero and partner good luck).
* Maybe it's because he's voiced by '''''[[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries DAN GREEN]]'''''!!!

[[WMG: The main character from the second TV special is actually a girl]]
Seriously, that's a dude? He (she?) sure sounds a lot like [[Manga/BoboboboBobobo Beauty]]. I'm pretty sure the two are related...
** Well he never said that he was male so...
*** No, it's a he. I'm pretty sure he's referred to as a 'young boy' right at the beginning of the episode.
*** Why wouldn't you just assume he's a kid? Not only does Chatot call the main characters kids when they try to join, ALL the Pokemon anime heroes are kids! Of course he sounds like a girl!

[[WMG: Time is tied to both Dialga's mental health ''and'' his physical health.]]
Even with the planet paralyzed in the bad future, Pokemon can still move around, and enough presumably grows to keep at least some people fed. Time hasn't completely stopped, just in a lot of important ways. The reason why is that Dialga is crazy, but he's still alive; if he should die, time would stop ''completely'' and the world would truly end.
** Makes sense since time began flowing when Dialga was born and continues to flow when his heart beats. Therefore, time would probably end if he were to die.

[[WMG: No TimeTravel was involved ''at all'' with the Explorers games.]]
Maybe the games aren't set in the past. Maybe the games are actually set in an AlternateUniverse. The player character did not [[spoiler: fade away]] because of a change in the timeline. ''This was actually part of [[spoiler: [[EvilPlan Darkrai's plan!]]'' He was trying to get the player out of the way so that his plan will not be ruined.]] After Dialga came back to his senses, he reversed this process and brought the player back. [[spoiler: Darkrai would later try this again.]]
* @/{{Magnezone}} has assumed this was canon from the get-go. Imagine her confusion finding such a thing on WMG alongside wonders like Grovyle = Yami Yugi...
* Ironically, I was the one who wrote that Yami Yugi one...but I was just being funny. Anyway, to expand on and correct this theory, the player's disappearance could have actually been the result of a timeline change. However, the player character didn't cause this. Darkrai had been manipulating Primal Dialga into erasing the PC and Grovyle from the timeline.
* [[VoodooShark But that opens up the question of]] ''how'' the player disappeared, and why the characters all assumed time travel even when the presumed time travelers implicitly did plenty of research.

[[WMG: The Time Gears were originally hidden around the world long ago to ''avert'' another crisis.]]
At some point in the distant past, time began warping itself in certain areas . This may have actually been [[spoiler: Darkrai's]] ''first'' attempt at paralyzing the planet; they found a way to make time chaotic in small regions, moving them out of sync with other lands. Pokemon around the world began going wild, mystery dungeons started appearing, growing more numerous and unpredictable as time slid further and further out of control.

In order to prevent time from completely collapsing, Dialga permitted the Time Gears being removed from Temporal Tower and strategically hidden in the regions hit the worst by time's decay. This stabilized time as a stop-gap measure, but it would take centuries for the lands to heal. Thus, Dialga left them where they were, figuring this arrangement would be fine for a few centuries or so -- Temporal Tower wasn't in any danger, standing strong and proud. So long as all Pokemon knew that disaster would befall them if anything happened to the Time Gears, [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong it'd work out just fine, right]]?

Of course, this also gave the scheming villain plenty of time to ''work'' with these arrangements... Over the centuries, they gradually undermined Dialga's plan, ever-so-''slowly'' chipping away at the stability of time and Temporal Tower. These changes were so subtle and minute that they were effectively {{Gaslighting}} Dialga; that, combined with the slow-but-steady decline of Temporal Tower, eventually left Dialga in a state of ever-growing madness. Thus, he was in no position to counter the enemy or stop the next phases of their plan... naturally leading to the events of ''Explorers''.

[[WMG: The voice of the Luminous Spring is a Mew.]]
Mew are the ancestors of all Pokemon, so it'd make sense that they'd be in charge of helping everyone evolve. Also, [[RuleOfCool it would be awesome]].
* Mew are ''supposedly'' the ancestors of all Pokemon. Arceus makes more sense anyway, or perhaps there's a legendary in charge of evolution we aren't aware of yet.
* In the debug menu, Jirachi is the pokemon that acts as the voice for Luminous Spring. What does that say?
** What? Mew is the Ancestor, Arceus is the Creator God, what's the confusion? Ancestor means, '[Being] from which [Blank] is descended from', The only beings descended from Arceus are the Dragon Trio and the Lake Trio... Unless Game Freak makes some other stuff. Mew is just the first Mortal Pokemon, like Adam and Lilith/Eve are to Humans, it's not a god or anything.

[[WMG: The ''Explorers'' Partner is an orphan.]]
They're called a 'kid' more than once over the course of the story, and yet lived all alone just outside of town until joining the Wigglytuff Guild. Childcare seems to be hard to come by for orphans if Chansey's Daycare is any indication. Joining the Guild was as much about getting some kind of family as it was about shoring up on confidence and experience.
* I just assumed that the "kid" epithet was more due to their rookie status.
** Really? Because I'm sure 90% of Pokemon's main protagonists are kids around 10-13. Plus, well, let's just say "[[ManChild Manchild]]" seems very unlikely. It's not unreasonable to think "kid" means, well....[[ShapedLikeItself kid.]]
** If you look at it another way... perhaps Bidoof's wish caused the partner to suddenly exist when it hadn't before. Since the partner has no family, of course they're an orphan!

[[WMG: Spinda is as high as a kite.]]
Do I ''really'' have to explain this one?

[[WMG: Ludicolo is the Kool-Aid Man.]]
''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWrMZNwziOQ Oh, yeaaaaah!]]''
* That makes ''[[FridgeBrilliance so much sense]]''. They even look alike!
* Or he's Macho Man RandySavage in Pokémon form.
** Um... about that...

[[WMG: The Duskull running the bank is the present-day version of Dusknoir.]]
Since there [[OneSteveLimit only seems to be one significant member of each Pokemon species]], it's unlikely that there's another Duskull running around during the events of the game.
* So... why doesn't Dusknoir have Duskull's VerbalTic?
** This is because he decides to drop it between the time of the main plot of time/darkness/sky and the dark future that's ruled by Dialga.
* I'm pretty sure there are Dusclops in one of the dungeons in the future, so Dusknoir could easily just have evolved from one of them.

[[WMG: The reason the Time Gears weren't at Temporal Tower was because they'd never been there.]]
OK, so on the Just Bugs Me page, someone asked why the Time Gears weren't at Temporal Tower to begin with. My theory: they were never there. The Time Gears were at the same place as Temporal Tower, guarded by Dialga, until someone raised the idea of building a real tower. Dialga was one of the most important Pokemon involved in building the tower, but this left the Time Gears unguarded for anyone to play with, so he asked Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf, an unknown guardian and Ditto's predecessor to take them to somewhere far out of the way until the Tower was finished. However, just before the Tower was finished, there was an earthquake which damaged the Tower slightly but also killed the guardian in Treeshroud Forest. Dialga had been hit on the head by debris in the earthquake and forgot that he needed the Time Gears there- he thought that time would work fine the way it was, and by the time the Pokemon had recovered from the effects of the quake, the guardians didn't give the Gears back because Dialga hadn't asked for them and it had been a while since they'd been given them, so they just kept them. Over the years, a legend started about how the Gears needed to be at their present locations, and soon Dialga started believing it- especially when someone moved the Treeshroud Forest Gear to see what would happen and time stopped.

[[WMG: The player character in Time/Darkness/Sky was created by Giratina.]]
In the Dark future, Giratina kept his world separated from the paralyzed world, but seeing as the few remaining Pokemon that were still trying to fight Primal Dialga, Giratina decided to help them before sealing his world away from theirs permanently. He called upon Grovyle and Celebi, and told them how they could change the past in order to save the future. He then created the player character specifically to help Grovyle and Celebi with this mission, and used it's power to make sure that the child would age to the proper age for effectively being able to help out with such a dangerous mission.

[[WMG: Chatot is [[YoungerThanTheyLook Younger Than He Looks]].]]
He's actually just about as inexperienced as the rest of the Guild. Sure, he's Wigglytuff's right-hand bird and has shouldered the responsibility of keeping the Guild running, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's an ''adult'' -- at most, he could be a teenager. He hasn't finished growing up yet, and lacks the maturity that age and experience ''should'' bring. Factor in Wigglytuff's own childish nature, and you have somebody who believes they're the OnlySaneMan, which has grossly inflated his ego.

That's why he makes such stupid, snap decisions all the time -- for all the responsibility he holds, he's ''still'' JustAKid.

[[WMG: In the future, time is horribly distorted.]]
Because of that, the past would in some way start to overlap with the present at certain times, which probably made the human protagonist come to the future. The rest is history.

[[WMG: Luxray and Manectric's tribes were ''both'' involved in the betrayal at Amp Plains.]]
The two tribes used to coexist peacefully there, but at some point, a [[PoorCommunicationKills deadly misunderstanding]] occurred, leading to an abrupt, vicious turf war breaking out. At the time of the game events, the two packs maintain an uneasy peace, venturing to the Far Amp Plains at different times... and always on edge, half-expecting the other side to betray them again and launch an ambush.
* And in Explorers of Sky, your partner can be a Shinx... no wonder the Manectric tribe doesn't believe you!
** To Add to this theory, The Horrible Misunderstanding was caused by [[spoiler:Darkrai]].

[[WMG: The reason why the Dimensional Scream works differently in the past and the future]]
Time and Space are "constant" forces in the world which
encompass and surround everything, somewhat like energy fields. The Dimensional Scream
now reaches from inside the person out into these energy fields (Time and Space) and
accesses them. This is how the visions are generally caused.

Now, in the future, time has stopped, so one of these 'fields' is as good as nonexistent.
However, the locations of the Time Gears are essential for the continued flow of time,
right? So maybe these locations were some sort of 'focus points', where time ran
especially strongly in the past; in the future, however, they might be the only place
where residues of 'Time' can be found (as I said, I'm talking about time as some sort of
field or energy). That is why, in the future, only places related to the Time Gears caused
the Dimensional Scream.

In the past, however, time still flows everywhere. As such, the Dimensional Scream can be
triggered not only near Time Gears, but also in totally unrelated locations.

[[WMG: The Treasure in Mt. Bristle Drowzee thought was money and etc. was actually a time gear]]
That's usually what most of the treasures turn out to be, unfortunately.
* I'm sure the game states at some point that there are only five Time Gears. One in Treeshroud Forest, one at each lake, and one at that place that appears in one of the sky extra missions. See the entry below.
** Actually, there was another one that was shown to be inside a volcano, but it was never seen in the game, only in a cutscene. If Mt. Bristle is a volcano that hasn't erupted for years, it could explain where that Time Gear was.
** Also, I thought it was never stated that there were ''only'' five, just that there were ''at least'' five. I think Grovyle even said he had all the "necessary" ones, not specifically ''all'' of them. So it is possible that there could be a Time Gear hidden in Mt. Bristle.

[[WMG: The reason Grovyle goes back to the future is not because he didn't have enough strength to continue, but because of Celebi.]]
What other reason could he have? He's still got enough strength to push Dusknoir around, so he could've continued, but didn't because he wanted to spend his last moments with Celebi.

[[WMG: There exists more than five time gears.]]
Well, at one point we do hear that a time gear was said to be hidden inside a volcano, but none of the five time gears we see were inside one. There may exist other time gears, but only five were needed. After Temporal Tower was restored, it's possible that Dialga drew away the power of the remaining time gears hidden out there to make sure that he would be powerful enough to prevent time from ever going out of control again.

[[WMG: Dialga brought back the PC in Time/Darkness/Sky to prevent a TemporalParadox.]]
If the future you're from no longer existed, then you never existed and therefore could never have saved Dialga in the first place.

[[WMG: The (human) player was resurrected from a fossil.]]
Probably the Pokemon managed to find a way to bring human fossils back to life.

[[WMG: Dialga isn't the god of time, he's the personification of time.]]
Temporal Tower was his original home, and his powers became tied up with it. The Time Gears were just ordinary pieces of the tower. Dialga's power soaked into the stones that made up the tower and gave individual pieces the ability to maintain time. When time began to screw up in certain places, Dialga removed the stones and allowed them to be taken to the afflicted places, but since Temporal Tower was no longer whole, his sanity began to deteriorate.

[[WMG: Perfect Apples are drugs]]
Seriously, you can replace the word "Perfect Apple" with the name of any illegal substance and the whole ordeal would still make sense. Also note how cranky Wigglytuff gets.

[[WMG: Perfect Apples actually tasted bad ]]
It wasn't sold anywhere and Wigglytuff is the only one who likes it. Team Charm gave it to him like it was something of little value.

[[WMG: Temporal Tower is the PMD Universe's manifestation of Franchise/TheDarkTower, and both stories are interrelated.]]
Both towers hold time together, and the protagonist in both stories are trying to stop the towers from becoming destabilized. Your party in PMD is your Ka-tet, and instead of a gunslinger you're a member of the guild. Dusknoir is a incarnation of Randall Flagg/A Servant of the Crimson King.

[[WMG: [[EveryoneIsSatanInHell The Grandmaster Of All Things Bad is Satan]]]]
He takes on the appearance of a charismatic individual in an effort to gain everyone's trust while hiding his true power. He speaks openly of peace and the goodness of all living creatures, while having no problem using violence to solve all of his problems and increasing his numbers to overrun the opposition. Most obviously, he offers the main characters great power and tempts them with an apple, leading to their immediate fall, and admits his true identity afterward.

[[WMG: Team Skull is alive and well]]
After [[spoiler: Brine Cave]], you never see them again, but that doesn't have to mean they're dead. Alternatively they just left the Treasure Town area, having learned their lesson for picking on Pokepals and the Guild. They either found a new target or just decided to lay low and stay out of everyone's way.

[[WMG: How the PMD2 protagonist got their power...]]
The Dusk Forest in the Future. Specifically, it is/was/will be Viridian Forest, and, as in Pokemon Special, it can grant people powers. [[spoiler: You never find out what the protagonist's life was like, excluding what Grovyle has stated, so you would have no clue where the protagonist was born. The distortion of time affected Viridian Forest, but Celebi, whom for the sake of WMG shall be considered guardian of the forest, protected herself and by extension her forest, by shrouding the forest in a dark mist. Years pass, the forest has not been granting powers since world's paralysis; humans are avoiding pokemon to protect themselves, so the gift power not being used and builds up. Then, a human family on the run has a child while hiding in the forest. Celebi, seeing an opportunity, grants the human child powers, but due to the build up of non-used gift power and the distortion of time, the forest's gift becomes the Dimensional Scream. Said gifted child child came back to the forest some years later, and Celebi, realising what has happened, introduces him/her to Grovyle, who was at the time a mere Treecko.]] And everything went from there...

[[WMG: Grovyle used to be human.]]
It's stated early on in Time/Darkness/Sky that the distortion of time is stopping pokemon from evolving. So how did Grovyle manage to evolve from Treecko? Answer: He didn't. He was turned into a pokemon as well, but never revealed it to his partner, as it was painful enough seeing them unable to remember him.

[[WMG: The player DID understand what Grovyle said...]]
...However, it was because of the Dimensional Scream. For me, it DID work in the future... Just in another way. After all, it is the dimensional SCREAM. Maybe it was used to talk with pokémon. Also, when Grovyle and the player talked with Celebi, she said that the Dimensional Scream couldn't be used to talk with pokémon in the past, and when the player lost their memory, it somehow remembered that part. That's why he was surprised when a Pokémon talked to him.

[[WMG: The player lost their personal memories, including the identities of Grovyle and Dusknoir, but not the knowledge or instincts they had picked up while in human form.]]
There is some pretty huge evidence towards this: they remember that humans can't understand Pokémon, they remain heroic just as they were in the future, and they generally seem like they stay just like they were as a human.

[[WMG: The titles of the first two ''Explorers'' games are [[TheNamesake Namesakes.]]]]
The titles may simply seem to be RuleOfCool, but they actually hide a deeper meaning; if you combine them, they can form the collective title of ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers of Darkness and Time'' (or ''Time and Darkness''). This probably refers to the fact that later in the game, the player character [[spoiler: travels through time and explores the [[BadFuture dark future]]. This would make the player, partner, and Grovyle both "explorers of time" (time travelers) and "explorers of darkness" (the future)]].

''Explorers of Sky'' simply refers to the mission in Shaymin Village, newly added in the remake.
* I thought it was obvious, why is this in WMG?

[[WMG: Pink Celebi actually indicate gender, not shininess.]]
Or, to be precise, if a Celebi is shiny it means it's female. Yes, Celebi don't have a designated gender, but it could just mean gender unknown. This may go to explain why Celebi are so rare-there's only 1 female in [[MemeticMutation over 8000.]]

[[WMG: Darkrai is responsible for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy dark energy]]]]
Why not? After all, it's a spatial phenomenon [[spoiler:and he was screwing with space]].

[[WMG: The partner pokemon (if it's a Shinx), was orphaned at Amp Plains at some point in the past.]]
In Sky, the Luxray tribe at Amp Plains is replaced with Manectric instead. Maybe the Luxray tribe got wiped out in a territory spat, including Shinx's (your partner's) family. Maybe that's why the partner is so timid at first. It's what this troper likes to think about her partner's origins, which are never properly explained.

[[WMG: The player character from Time/Darkness/Sky was never a human]]
Since all the humans died out long ago, s/he was actually a shapeshifting alien sent to the Pokemon World to undo the bad future. Posing as a human. The Dimensional Scream is an alien ability. Since s/he had already told Groyvle s/he was human, when the hero ended up with amnesia the only memory s/he had left was "I was a human" which was not true. And that may be why s/he turned into a Pokemon. Unbeknownst to him/her, Time Travel has negative side effects on their race, and automatically (Permanently) shape-shifted him/her into another form (Which was affected by his/her subconscious, so if the last thought on his/her mind was Pokemon...)


[[WMG: Explorers is what happened after you had failed]]
* Consider this : We know from the dimensional scream, the player and the Grovyle had visited the Fogbound lake in the future. Now why would they need to go there? If they are simply wanted to change the past, there's no need. Unless they were trying to take time gears in the future...
* Another thing to consider : Why would they need to change the past anyway, instead of just fixing the Temporal Tower in the future? Changing the past is basically erasing themselves from history. Unless, they were really desperate and had no choice...
* Another question : The human had dimensional scream, yes, but still, to travel alone with just two companions in the future is dangerous. The human was either a Badass, or he was originally [[FridgeHorror wasn't alone]].
* Conclusion : The human and his partners had tried before, and failed badly.
** It was like this : In the dark future, there was a human who had Dimensional Scream ability. Knowing he was the only one who can [[TheChosenOne save the world]], he went on adventures to collect the time gears and returned the Temporal Tower back to normal. Of course he wasn't alone, he had several pokemon partners accompanying him, including Grovyle.
** However, he failed badly. Either the Temporal Tower was beyond repair or the time gears in the future were broken; and then he was defeated by either Primal Dialga and/or Dusknoir and his army (and maybe Darkrai too). All the other pokemon in his party were killed and the player and Grovyle merely survive thanks to Celebi intervention.
** As the future world cannot be saved, the player came into conclusion to destroy the timeline instead. It's like Munna's goal in Gates to Infinity. Both Grovyle and the player were desperate enough that they were willing to erase themselves to change the history, because they had nothing to lose. It also explained how Grovyle was bitter and didn't care how he stopped time in the past. Thankfully, the player lost their memory as they traveled into the past, or else you'd be playing with a bitter antihero who would do anything to change the past.
** Grovyle didn't mention anything of their previous adventure as he saw how happy the player was with the new partner. He only told you that you will disappear because there were no choice.

[[WMG:The mons from the BadFuture revived in the game's present, or a relatively short time after]]
Since the bad future lacks any true passage of time (not counting cause and effect), everything would've remained in the exact moment where [[TimeCrash time went down the crapper]]. With how close the player and partner cut it when delivering the Time Gears, it can be assumed this moment would've been not long after your fight with Dialga, which for all intents and purposes is basically the present.

Of note is that in Super you can recruit both the characters from the bad future ''and'' the guild members (who haven't so much as evolved since the events of Explorers, mind you), showing that they exist simultaneously. Then again, this detail could also be explained by Celebi time traveling with everyone.

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