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* If the Penguins already know Blowhole by the time of first ''[[WesternAnimation/Madagascar1 Madagascar]]'', there is a possibility that instead of being outright sequel to first movie, the ''Penguins of Madagascar 2'' could serve as prequel to ''Madagascar'' series, in similar way as to how ''WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish'' had served as sequel to ''Shrek'' series, due to taking place after the events of ''WesternAnimation/ShrekForeverAfter''.
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It's possible that the movie's original ending had the penguins choose to stay in the Central Park Zoo and protect it from threats like Dave (or in case he escapes from that snow globe), with the lemurs joining them due to Julien breaking up with Sonya, but the writers probably opted out of it either due to the idea being complicated (especially to those who [[ContinuityLockout didn't watch the show]], or because they realized how many [[ContinuitySnarl inconsistencies the two continuities had]].
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It's possible that the movie's original ending had the penguins choose to stay in the Central Park Zoo and protect it from threats like Dave (or in case he escapes from that snow globe), with the lemurs joining them due to Julien breaking up with Sonya, but the writers probably opted out of it either due to the idea being complicated (especially to those who [[ContinuityLockout didn't watch the show]], show]]), or because they realized how many [[ContinuitySnarl inconsistencies the two continuities had]].
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[[WMG: If Dreamworks will make potential ''Penguins of Madagascar 2'', it will be about Penguins first fight with Dr. Blowhole.]]
The beginning of Dr. Blowhole's debut episode takes place when the Penguins already meet him, with the evil dolphin already having established revenge upon them. So, if Dreamworks will ever make sequel to this movie, the plot will be about Dr. Blowhole's first plan to take over the world with the movie serving as a CanonWelding between the film series and the [[WesternAnimation/ThePenguinsOfMadagascar TV show]].
[[WMG: If Dreamworks will make potential ''Penguins of Madagascar 2'', it will be about Penguins first fight with Dr. Blowhole.]]
The beginning of Dr. Blowhole's debut episode takes place when the Penguins already meet him, with the evil dolphin already having established revenge upon them. So, if Dreamworks will ever make sequel to this movie, the plot will be about Dr. Blowhole's first plan to take over the world with the movie serving as a CanonWelding between the film series and the [[WesternAnimation/ThePenguinsOfMadagascar TV show]].
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[[WMG: The movie was meant to serve as CanonWelding between the film series and the [[WesternAnimation/ThePenguinsOfMadagascar TV show]], estabilishing the latter as taking place at the very end of the franchise's timeline.]]
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[[WMG: The movie was meant to serve as CanonWelding between the film series and the [[WesternAnimation/ThePenguinsOfMadagascar TV show]], estabilishing establishing the latter as taking place at the very end of the franchise's timeline.]]
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[[WMG: The movie was meant to serve as CanonWelding between the film series and the [[WesternAnimation/ThePenguinsOfMadagascar TV show]], estabilishing the latter as taking place at the very end of the franchise's timeline.]]
Evidence:
* The penguins are now much closer in design and personality to their show counterparts.
* The movie's climax takes place in New York, which is the primary location of the show.
* King Julien has his old design, which he uses in the show.
It's possible that the movie's original ending had the penguins choose to stay in the Central Park Zoo and protect it from threats like Dave (or in case he escapes from that snow globe), with the lemurs joining them due to Julien breaking up with Sonya, but the writers probably opted out of it either due to the idea being complicated (especially to those who [[ContinuityLockout didn't watch the show]], or because they realized how many [[ContinuitySnarl inconsistencies the two continuities had]].
Evidence:
* The penguins are now much closer in design and personality to their show counterparts.
* The movie's climax takes place in New York, which is the primary location of the show.
* King Julien has his old design, which he uses in the show.
It's possible that the movie's original ending had the penguins choose to stay in the Central Park Zoo and protect it from threats like Dave (or in case he escapes from that snow globe), with the lemurs joining them due to Julien breaking up with Sonya, but the writers probably opted out of it either due to the idea being complicated (especially to those who [[ContinuityLockout didn't watch the show]], or because they realized how many [[ContinuitySnarl inconsistencies the two continuities had]].
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* Tom McGrath said that the show isn't canon to the movies. And King Julien actually stops by the zoo in the third movie but (along with Alex, Marty, Melman and Gloria) he decides not to stay, so there's that.
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* Tom McGrath [=McGrath=] said that the show isn't canon to the movies. And King Julien actually stops by the zoo in the third movie but (along with Alex, Marty, Melman and Gloria) he decides not to stay, so there's that.
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[[WMG: The Medusa Serum didn't affect Rico mentally at all -- it only affected him physically]]
I'm guessing this because when Private's able to get Skipper and Kowalski to recognize him, Skipper notices that, mutated or not, Rico's pretty much the same mentally-speaking--and yet Rico seems to recognize Private even more quickly than Skipper and Kowalski do.
I'm guessing this because when Private's able to get Skipper and Kowalski to recognize him, Skipper notices that, mutated or not, Rico's pretty much the same mentally-speaking--and yet Rico seems to recognize Private even more quickly than Skipper and Kowalski do.
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* Tom McGrath said that the show isn't canon to the movies. And King Julien actually stops by the zoo in the third movie but (along with Alex, Marty, Melman and Gloria) he decides not to stay, so there's that.
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[[WMG: The ray mutated the penguins permanently]]
While most of their mutations were fixed by Private, it didn't completely fix them, and that's why Skipper is even more paranoid, Kowalski in the show is so much crazier and smarter than the movies, and Rico can both eat and choke up things that are larger than he is.
While most of their mutations were fixed by Private, it didn't completely fix them, and that's why Skipper is even more paranoid, Kowalski in the show is so much crazier and smarter than the movies, and Rico can both eat and choke up things that are larger than he is.
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* Rico is choking up larger and larger objects and becoming more verbal. He's also got his mohawk thing.
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* One of the taglines for the movie is "Discover how four ordinary penguins became the penguins of Madagascar."
* Rico is choking up larger and larger objects and becoming more verbal. He's also got his mohawkthing.
thing. He just hasn't got his scar yet.
* Rico is choking up larger and larger objects and becoming more verbal. He's also got his mohawk
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* Rico is choking up larger and larger objects and becoming more verbal. He's also got his mohawk thing.
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[[WMG: Dave is genetically altered]]
He clearly doesn't resemble the other octopuses in the film. Also, humans appear to understand his speech as shown when he is disguised as Dr. Octavius Brine, even though [[WesternAnimation/{{Madagascar}} the original movie]] established that humans can't understand animals.
He clearly doesn't resemble the other octopuses in the film. Also, humans appear to understand his speech as shown when he is disguised as Dr. Octavius Brine, even though [[WesternAnimation/{{Madagascar}} the original movie]] established that humans can't understand animals.
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This explains why he looks different from the other octopuses. It also explains how he knew what the Medusa Serum was in the first place[[note]]I'm fairly certain that in no part of the movie does it say that Dave invented it.[[/note]]. You may be wondering why he doesn't act stupid and feral like the mutant penguins. This is because octopuses are extremely intelligent, and if the serum reduced his IQ, that still isn't enough to make him dumb.[[note]]Alternatively, perhaps, for some reason, the serum had the opposite effect on Dave - making him smarter - which explains why he is smarter than the other octopuses.[[/note]] Because the penguins are so carefree and incompetent, they become stupid and beastly. Because Skipper and Kowalski are smarter than the other penguins, they become stupid, but they are able to snap out of it.
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This explains why he looks different from the other octopuses. It also explains how he knew what the Medusa Serum was in the first place[[note]]I'm place.(I'm fairly certain that in no part of the movie does it say that Dave invented it.[[/note]]. You )You may be wondering why he doesn't act stupid and feral like the mutant penguins. This is because octopuses are extremely intelligent, and if the serum reduced his IQ, that still isn't enough to make him dumb.[[note]]Alternatively, Alternatively, perhaps, for some reason, the serum had the opposite effect on Dave - making him smarter - which explains why he is smarter than the other octopuses.[[/note]] octopuses. Because the penguins are so carefree and incompetent, they become stupid and beastly. Because Skipper and Kowalski are smarter than the other penguins, they become stupid, but they are able to snap out of it.
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* This theory is awesome! Frankly, it kinda feels like TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter by only having the main cast of Madagascar only appear as cameos at the beginning. Although they're grown up now, and some people wouldn't necessarily call them "cute" anymore, Dave would likely still hate them anyway. That guy just can't let go of his grudges.
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This would explain how he gets from Berlin to London in less than five minutes in his penguin kidnapping spree.
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This would explain how he gets from Berlin to London in less than five minutes in his penguin kidnapping spree.spree.
[[WMG: Before becoming evil, Dave worked for the North Wind.]]
Just a thought. It would explain his prowess with technology. Maybe the North Wind saw that he kept getting transported around the world, and decided to recruit him so he could have a home and friends. They taught him how to use all sorts of secret agent technology and strategies. But when Dave learned that they were fighting for cute, defenseless animals - just like the penguins that got him kicked out of every zoo - he became enraged, then [[FaceHeelTurn left the North Wind, and started plotting revenge on the penguins with his newfound power]].
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[[WMG: Before becoming evil, Dave worked for the North Wind.]]
Just a thought. It would explain his prowess with technology. Maybe the North Wind saw that he kept getting transported around the world, and decided to recruit him so he could have a home and friends. They taught him how to use all sorts of secret agent technology and strategies. But when Dave learned that they were fighting for cute, defenseless animals - just like the penguins that got him kicked out of every zoo - he became enraged, then [[FaceHeelTurn left the North Wind, and started plotting revenge on the penguins with his newfound power]].
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Hey, he became the friggin' "King of New York", right? Probably, even before the penguins' arrival, that little lion cub fished from the sea was starting to steal Dave's spotlight.
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Hey, he became the friggin' "King of New York", right? Probably, even before the penguins' arrival, that little lion cub fished from the sea was starting to steal Dave's spotlight.spotlight.
[[WMG: Dave's sub has a hyperdrive.]]
This would explain how he gets from Berlin to London in less than five minutes in his penguin kidnapping spree.
[[WMG: Dave's sub has a hyperdrive.]]
This would explain how he gets from Berlin to London in less than five minutes in his penguin kidnapping spree.
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Hey, he became the friggin' "King of New York", right? Probably, even before the penguins' arrival, that little lion cub fished from the sea was stealing Dave's spotlight.
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Hey, he became the friggin' "King of New York", right? Probably, even before the penguins' arrival, that little lion cub fished from the sea was stealing starting to steal Dave's spotlight.
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Hey, he was the friggin' "King of New York", right? Probably, even before the penguins' arrival, that little lion cub fished from the sea was stealing Dave's spotlight.
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Hey, he was became the friggin' "King of New York", right? Probably, even before the penguins' arrival, that little lion cub fished from the sea was stealing Dave's spotlight.
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** Not necessarily jossed. Presumably, the "cute ray" is supposed to make things cute, not just reverse the effects of the Medusa serum. Following this, the reason the penguins only revert to their normal selves instead of changing like Dave did is because they were already cute and therefore the ray didn't need to change them further. Since most would probably agree Dave's minions (the default look for octopuses within the theory) aren't particularly cute looking, it'd be fairly logical for the ray to go an extra step and make him cute instead of just the default.
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** Not necessarily jossed. Presumably, the "cute ray" is supposed to make things cute, not just reverse the effects of the Medusa serum. Following this, the reason the penguins only revert to their normal selves instead of changing like Dave did is because they were already cute and therefore the ray didn't need to change them further. Since most would probably agree Dave's minions (the default look for octopuses within the theory) aren't particularly cute looking, it'd be fairly logical for the ray to go an extra step and make him cute instead of just the default.default.
[[WMG: If Dave had succeeded with the penguins, his next target would have been Alex.]]
Hey, he was the friggin' "King of New York", right? Probably, even before the penguins' arrival, that little lion cub fished from the sea was stealing Dave's spotlight.
[[WMG: If Dave had succeeded with the penguins, his next target would have been Alex.]]
Hey, he was the friggin' "King of New York", right? Probably, even before the penguins' arrival, that little lion cub fished from the sea was stealing Dave's spotlight.
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* Kinda jossed at the end, where he gets hit by Private's "cute ray" and ends up looking more like the squid that Skipper slapped around. If it was the serum making him look like that, it should have made him look like his minions in the end. Or maybe he's really a squid that lost 2 tentacles?
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* Kinda jossed at the end, where he gets hit by Private's "cute ray" and ends up looking more like the squid that Skipper slapped around. If it was the serum making him look like that, it should have made him look like his minions in the end. Or maybe he's really a squid that lost 2 tentacles?tentacles?
** Not necessarily jossed. Presumably, the "cute ray" is supposed to make things cute, not just reverse the effects of the Medusa serum. Following this, the reason the penguins only revert to their normal selves instead of changing like Dave did is because they were already cute and therefore the ray didn't need to change them further. Since most would probably agree Dave's minions (the default look for octopuses within the theory) aren't particularly cute looking, it'd be fairly logical for the ray to go an extra step and make him cute instead of just the default.
** Not necessarily jossed. Presumably, the "cute ray" is supposed to make things cute, not just reverse the effects of the Medusa serum. Following this, the reason the penguins only revert to their normal selves instead of changing like Dave did is because they were already cute and therefore the ray didn't need to change them further. Since most would probably agree Dave's minions (the default look for octopuses within the theory) aren't particularly cute looking, it'd be fairly logical for the ray to go an extra step and make him cute instead of just the default.
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This explains why he looks different from the other octopuses. It also explains how he knew what the Medusa Serum was in the first place[[note]]I'm fairly certain that in no part of the movie does it say that Dave invented it.[[/note]]. You may be wondering why he doesn't act stupid and feral like the mutant penguins. This is because octopuses are extremely intelligent, and if the serum reduced his IQ, that still isn't enough to make him dumb.[[note]]Alternatively, perhaps, for some reason, the serum had the opposite effect on Dave - making him smarter - which explains why he is smarter than the other octopuses.[[/note]] Because the penguins are so carefree and incompetent, they become stupid and beastly. Because Skipper and Kowalski are smarter than the other penguins, they become stupid, but they are able to snap out of it.
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This explains why he looks different from the other octopuses. It also explains how he knew what the Medusa Serum was in the first place[[note]]I'm fairly certain that in no part of the movie does it say that Dave invented it.[[/note]]. You may be wondering why he doesn't act stupid and feral like the mutant penguins. This is because octopuses are extremely intelligent, and if the serum reduced his IQ, that still isn't enough to make him dumb.[[note]]Alternatively, perhaps, for some reason, the serum had the opposite effect on Dave - making him smarter - which explains why he is smarter than the other octopuses.[[/note]] Because the penguins are so carefree and incompetent, they become stupid and beastly. Because Skipper and Kowalski are smarter than the other penguins, they become stupid, but they are able to snap out of it.it.
* Kinda jossed at the end, where he gets hit by Private's "cute ray" and ends up looking more like the squid that Skipper slapped around. If it was the serum making him look like that, it should have made him look like his minions in the end. Or maybe he's really a squid that lost 2 tentacles?
* Kinda jossed at the end, where he gets hit by Private's "cute ray" and ends up looking more like the squid that Skipper slapped around. If it was the serum making him look like that, it should have made him look like his minions in the end. Or maybe he's really a squid that lost 2 tentacles?
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* They probably just picked up the chimps, since the lemurs arrived in a crate likely made a stop back in Madagascar along the way.
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* They probably just picked up the chimps, since the lemurs arrived in a crate likely made a stop back in Madagascar along the way.way.
[[WMG: At some point, Dave was exposed to the Medusa serum.]]
This explains why he looks different from the other octopuses. It also explains how he knew what the Medusa Serum was in the first place[[note]]I'm fairly certain that in no part of the movie does it say that Dave invented it.[[/note]]. You may be wondering why he doesn't act stupid and feral like the mutant penguins. This is because octopuses are extremely intelligent, and if the serum reduced his IQ, that still isn't enough to make him dumb.[[note]]Alternatively, perhaps, for some reason, the serum had the opposite effect on Dave - making him smarter - which explains why he is smarter than the other octopuses.[[/note]] Because the penguins are so carefree and incompetent, they become stupid and beastly. Because Skipper and Kowalski are smarter than the other penguins, they become stupid, but they are able to snap out of it.
[[WMG: At some point, Dave was exposed to the Medusa serum.]]
This explains why he looks different from the other octopuses. It also explains how he knew what the Medusa Serum was in the first place[[note]]I'm fairly certain that in no part of the movie does it say that Dave invented it.[[/note]]. You may be wondering why he doesn't act stupid and feral like the mutant penguins. This is because octopuses are extremely intelligent, and if the serum reduced his IQ, that still isn't enough to make him dumb.[[note]]Alternatively, perhaps, for some reason, the serum had the opposite effect on Dave - making him smarter - which explains why he is smarter than the other octopuses.[[/note]] Because the penguins are so carefree and incompetent, they become stupid and beastly. Because Skipper and Kowalski are smarter than the other penguins, they become stupid, but they are able to snap out of it.
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The Penguins will at some point return to the zoo after picking up the lemurs and the chimps. That would explain the absence of Alex, Marty, Melman and Gloria in the Tv series.
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The Penguins will at some point return to the zoo after picking up the lemurs and the chimps. That would explain the absence of Alex, Marty, Melman and Gloria in the Tv series.TV series.
* They probably just picked up the chimps, since the lemurs arrived in a crate likely made a stop back in Madagascar along the way.
* They probably just picked up the chimps, since the lemurs arrived in a crate likely made a stop back in Madagascar along the way.
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[[WMG: The movie is a prequel to the TV series of the same name.]]
The Penguins will at some point return to the zoo after picking up the lemurs and the chimps. That would explain the absence of Alex, Marty, Melman and Gloria in the Tv series.
The Penguins will at some point return to the zoo after picking up the lemurs and the chimps. That would explain the absence of Alex, Marty, Melman and Gloria in the Tv series.
