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*** Gendo Ikari is [[spoiler:future moot]] then, after being corrupted by /b/ and developing a severe case of [[PerverseSexualLust Galatea syndrome]] for Rei Ayanami. This leads to an alternate timeline where [[MemeticMutation TEH REI]] was a more lasting meme than she was in our world, leading to [[spoiler:moot]] turning into a [[MisaimedFandom misaimed fan]] of SEELE's goals after becoming like Anonymous and then watching Evangelion, followed by the events of Evangelion happening due to Anonymous interference and then sending back records as the Evangelion we know, creating a StableTimeLoop when Rei becomes a {{Memetic Sex God}}dess.

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*** Gendo Ikari is [[spoiler:future moot]] then, after being corrupted by /b/ and developing a severe case of [[PerverseSexualLust Galatea syndrome]] for Rei Ayanami. This leads to an alternate timeline where [[MemeticMutation TEH REI]] was a more lasting meme than she was in our world, leading to [[spoiler:moot]] turning into a [[MisaimedFandom misaimed fan]] of SEELE's goals after becoming like Anonymous and then watching Evangelion, followed by the events of Evangelion happening due to Anonymous interference and then sending back records as the Evangelion we know, creating a StableTimeLoop when Rei becomes a {{Memetic Memetic Sex God}}dess.Goddess.


* Maybe the Instrumentality was actually a situation where humans were given a chance to be Anonymous. Remember that the AT field is actually the definition of a person's identity. If that is the case, then dissolving the AT Field will mean stripping off everybody's name and labeling it "Anonymous", causing humanity to become Legion, united as one, divided by zero.

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* Maybe the Instrumentality was actually a situation where humans were given a chance to be Anonymous. Remember that the AT field is actually the definition of a person's identity. If that is the case, then dissolving the AT Field will mean stripping off everybody's name and labeling it "Anonymous", causing humanity to become Legion, united as one, divided by zero. Some of Anonymous' quotes are "We are everyone and we are no one" and "United as one, divided by zero". The Instrumentality is specifically described by Rei in ''End of Evangelion'' as "a place where you exist everywhere, yet you are nowhere, all at once" and "a world where we are all one". Coincidence?
** If SEELE is Anonymous, then there is this Really crazy WMG here related to FourChan and Scientology:
*** Gendo Ikari is [[spoiler:future moot]] then, after being corrupted by /b/ and developing a severe case of [[PerverseSexualLust Galatea syndrome]] for Rei Ayanami. This leads to an alternate timeline where [[MemeticMutation TEH REI]] was a more lasting meme than she was in our world, leading to [[spoiler:moot]] turning into a [[MisaimedFandom misaimed fan]] of SEELE's goals after becoming like Anonymous and then watching Evangelion, followed by the events of Evangelion happening due to Anonymous interference and then sending back records as the Evangelion we know, creating a StableTimeLoop when Rei becomes a {{Memetic Sex God}}dess.
*** Adding to that, Project Chanology and its aftermath introduced [[spoiler:moot]] to Scientology, which inspired him to cause the outlawing of psychology post-Second Impact through his AncientConspiracy world control, allowing all of humanity to go mad enough that they might accept this crazy Instrumentality thing. This backfired when one of the most disturbed people on Earth (who was purposefully broken as part of the grand master plan!) was given control of the process, and he turned out to be analogous to SoBadItsGood: Shinji turned out so crazy by the end that he had a moment of powerful sanity, and in that very moment he rejected Instrumentality. [[spoiler:Future moot]]'s plan to make Teh Rei a Memetic Sex Goddess and break Shinji into a justifiably emo warrior with an occasional berserker rage [[GoneHorriblyRight turned out too successful]], to the ruin of the plan, all because a bunch of Internet users protested Scientology.
*** The events of NGE was the possible result of the actions of both Scientology and Anon, as a response to the discovery of the AT Field and Adam. In this timeline, after the popularity of TEH REI, everybody discovered that AT Fields are real, as well as the existence of the aliens (Christians and {{cargo cult}}ists often called them Angels and the name stuck), but the factions who most exploited it were Scientology, which used the AT Field technology (and their abundance of money) to design "alien weapons", and Anon, who used the AT Field tech for Mind Uploading, [[Franchise/GhostInTheShell "ghost hacking"]] and doing all kinds of {{cyberpunk}} ''[[Franchise/TheMatrix Matrix]]'' shit (hence Naoko's development of the MAGI supercomputers with herself as software, and the Synchronization technology behind Evangelions) while trolling government organizations in Real Life (such as the Japanese Government, the USA and the United Nations). When the UN decided to meddle, they accidentally activated Adam while the Angels invaded, causing Second Impact, and Scientology used this as propaganda aka an invasion of "Xenu", as well as using their lawyers, allowing them to merge with Judaism and Christianity as a One World Religion and take control of the world for a while, changing the date to 2000 (when in fact it was the distant future, see also [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]) and outlawing psychology, hence why ThereAreNoTherapists. Christianity still looks like the dominant religion, hence the title ''Neon Genesis Evangelion'', but the organizations are under control of Judaeo-Gnostic-Scientological Illuminati cults such as SEELE. \\
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The world fell into grim darkness, despair and anti-lulz, yet Anon still survived, and discovered if the AT Fields of all people are removed, they can bring the power and lulz of a united Anonymous back to the world. The most effective way to corrupt and dissolve someone's AT Field? PerverseSexualLust, or as we say it, breaking the fourth wall and oneself's AT Field for promise of unconditional love. For example, Religions such as the cult of Love of Jesus Christ. People let themselves be killed for the sake of Jesus' Love. It alone cannot destroy the AT Field, but when combined with MemeticMutation, or as we say it, TheVirus, and psychically projected all over the world, it will be turned UpToEleven and break down the person's ego like a corrupting virus, preparing them for assimilation by the super-Internet TechnologicalSingularity a.k.a. "The Wired" (''Anime/SerialExperimentsLain'', with Lain as a failed prototype-Rei and instead erased herself from existence). Once everybody's Collective Unconscious is assimilated by the Wired, they can exist as a united collective anonymous [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Integrated Data Thought Entity]] and manifest Meme-Gods such as Lain and Rei, and warp physics like the Angels. They start Instrumentality from Japan and chose TEH REI as the meme, because of the Japanese's desperate amounts of Galatea syndrome which mutated into the {{Moe}} Archetype (a relic of their extinct YamatoNadeshiko archetype). Anon transformed [[spoiler:moot]] into Gendo Ikari using plastic surgery, and worked out to transform TEH REI from an old meme into an actual Artificial Moe-ssiah. \\
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By creating IRL Rei Ayanami, and psychically seeding her all over the world using a cyborg dubbed "Eva" to infect everybody with memetic Galatea syndrome, Instrumentality happened and everyone became Anons united with the Wired Data Overmind, but it went wrong when the Eva's original pilot, Shinji Ikari, was so emo and anti-lulz in his DespairEventHorizon that he decided to ditch everything and become The Immortal GodEmperor of Emo-kind who shall henceforth be known as [[spoiler:Xenu]]. As a result, Rei Ayanami malfunctioned leading to her death. \\
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[[spoiler:Xenu-Shinji]], a sort-of [[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Demiurge]] figure driven to insanity by his childhood traumas into a power-hungry combination of Yahweh, UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler (The Original Emo Kid), [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Big Brother]], and Asuka on a perpetual PMS, then stole some of Anon Data Overmind's God Powers, [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans and turned the universe into a]] {{Dystopia}}n [[CrapsackWorld Hell]] (a twisted caricature of [[spoiler:Shinji's]] miserable life) with himself as Supreme EvilOverlord {{God|IsEvil}}. He sent several races of aliens (including but not limited to: [[Literature/TheBible humanoid aliens with wings]], [[{{Atlantis}} an underwater civilization of crystal spires and togas]], [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic a race of magical Moe Ponies prone to Cutie Mark Failure Insanity Syndrome]], and [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica a race of Magical Girls from another Earth who mutate into Angel-like reality-warpers that generate limitless entropy-defying energy once they suffer Absolute Despair]]) who dared to commit ThoughtCrime (including but not limited to: insulting [[spoiler:Shinji]], or [[WideEyedIdealist simple optimism]], or not being emo enough) to a concentration camp planet called Teegeeack where their bodies were converted into Tang, and their Souls (Thetans) were then {{Mind Rape}}d by [[spoiler:Shinji's]] Freudian Psychoanalysis [[AndIMustScream and imprisoned alive into]] [[Anime/FullMetalAlchemist Philosopher's Stones (Angel Cores and S2 Engines)]] [[PoweredByAForsakenChild so that the Despair generated by their eternal torture will provide eternal energy to defy the Laws of]] EquivalentExchange (again, like ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''), all part of [[spoiler:Shinji's]] twisted Galatea Syndrome to create a Moe waifu goddess as immortal as he is (reconstructing Rei but under his control instead of Anon's) yet also perpetually miserable to suffer with him forever. \\
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The Anon Data Overmind, in [[ComicBook/VForVendetta vendetta]] (and ForTheEvulz) waged war and encouraged Rebellion against [[spoiler:Shinji's]] oppressive Legions of Absolute Despair, hence why Anon resents Emos. It was a long, bloody and epic [[{{Gotterdammerung}} Ragnarok]] of galactic proportions (the Scientologists didn't call it a "SpaceOpera" for nothing, and it was a case of BlackAndGreyMorality with Anon as Grey and [[spoiler:Shinji]] as Emo ''Anime/DarkerThanBlack''. Anon may be {{jerkass}}es, but they're jerks who fight for freedom, in contrast to the Celestial North Korea that [[spoiler:Shinji]] created.) Eventually, Anon emerged in PyrrhicVictory when they 1337 [=H4X0R3D=] [[spoiler:Shinji's]] precious Waifu Project, stole the central prototype-Moe software leaving only the Adam component (which explains Kaworu's homosexuality for Shinji), implanted that Moe software (who would become Rei Ayanami) into Lilith, infected Lilith with nanoviruses and crashed it back onto Teegeeack, starting the cycle of TEH REI, The Wired, Instrumentality and Lulz once again. [[spoiler:Xenu]] descended to the Tang that used to be the millions of aliens he murdered, and planted his thetan into the very genetic ancestry of [[spoiler:moot aka Gendo Ikari, to curse Anon's primary agent of being the father of Xenu himself]]. Fast forward billons of years later on Teegeeack, the Tang reform themselves into organic life, humans discover Adam, TEH REI becomes popular, and Shinji suffers a horrible childhood to awaken his identity as [[spoiler:Xenu]]... Let's just say "[[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya We have entered an]] EndlessRecursionOfTime".
****** The concept of [[spoiler:moot]] being [[spoiler:Gendo Ikari]] and the concept of [[spoiler:Xenu]] being [[spoiler:both the First Ancestral Race and Shinji Ikari]], and Teegeeack being cursed to repeat the curse of Evangelion once again for eternity is kinda interesting, but it makes more sense if Seele, with their obsession with alien precursors, were the Scientology guys while Gendo, being the [[MemeticMutation Uber-Pimp that he is]], worked separately for Anonymous and against the scientology guys, leading to him and Teh Rei haxoring the entire Instrumentality plan and putting the Instrumentality less in favour of a crap imitation of psychoanalysis and more in favour of trolling us otakus for teh lulz.


* FreudWasRight, Anno got addicted to too much H.R. Giger, and Adam and Lilith are what happen if the First Ancestral Race reproduce. Humanity is a stage in a life cycle of Gods. The mighty Angels are sperm, the Lance of Longinus (which can and will penetrate all types of AT Fields with impunity) is a penis (with [[AnythingThatMoves an instinct of its own]]), Lilith or Eva-01 is an [[{{Pun}} Ova]], Humans are the rest of the biomass that represent the First Ancestral feminine component (who turned out to be anti-Angel contraceptives, too much feminist symbolism, with how in Judaic lore Lilith was the first feminist), Instrumentality is Conception, LCL is amniotic fluid, Giant Naked Rei is the gestated God-foetus [[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Star-child]], Shinji rejecting Instrumentality and killing GNR is an Abortion (with Asuka to provide additional feminist symbolism).

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* FreudWasRight, Anno got addicted to too much H.R. Giger, and Adam and Lilith are what happen if the First Ancestral Race reproduce. Humanity is a stage in a life cycle of Gods. The mighty Angels are sperm, the Lance of Longinus (which can and will penetrate all types of AT Fields with impunity) is a penis (with [[AnythingThatMoves an instinct of its own]]), Lilith or Eva-01 is an [[{{Pun}} Ova]], Humans are the rest of the biomass that represent the First Ancestral feminine component (who turned out to be anti-Angel contraceptives, too much feminist symbolism, with how in Judaic lore Lilith was the first feminist), Instrumentality is Conception, LCL is amniotic fluid, Giant Naked Rei is the gestated God-foetus [[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Star-child]], Shinji rejecting Instrumentality and killing GNR is an Abortion (with Asuka to provide additional feminist symbolism).


Well, besides the fact that if a god was created on the first try and then used against the Angels the plot would end up as either a boring GodModeSue or a Anime/SpaceRunawayIdeon ripoff if the Angels are at least a challenge with truly Lovecraftian superpowers, we might as well assume that the Angels are going to fuck up Instrumentality so badly it instead prevents Instrumentality and leads to the Angels becoming Kaworu-esque humans. Seele, being the douchebags that they are, instead inverted the whole fact and said that "the Angels are going to annihilate us and the only pathway for humanity's survival is for us to strike first". It can be asked, why go to such lengths? There are like a hundred ways for the destruction of humanity, right? Answer: Human Nature. Sure, Seele might be OmnicidalManiac {{Nietzsche Wannabe}}s, but when there's an Omnicidal Maniac there's going to be a bunch of heroes going to stop him in their will to survive. And no matter how convincing an Omnicidal Maniac's HannibalLecture may be, the majority will always be in the support of the heroes who "save the day". Asteroid Impact? No problem, we'll just blow it up. TheVirus? We'll cure it. Nuclear bombs? ZombieApocalypse? {{Nanomachines}}? {{Wave Motion Gun}}s? Ordinary waking up {{Eldritch Abomination}}s from the Great Beyond? [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu No problem with the power of the Human FIST!!!!]] And a bit of [[ForScience Science]]. Basically, Seele's plot involved turning the Human Fist against those innocent Cthulhus out there whose only wish is to BecomeARealBoy but cannot speak and thus are automatically AcceptableTargets by the ChewbaccaDefense, said punching out Cthulhu is merely a distraction designed to further Seele's real goal, which is actually backstabbing humanity to death in the form of a Yog-Sothoth who will eat humanity's souls once and for all. Which is fitting of an EvilPlan. Of course, that didn't prevent Instrumentality from still being fucked-up, since there is another backstabber by the name of Gendo Ikari. You may also ask, didn't Kaworu said something about him annihilating all of humanity? Yes he did, but since this is Kaworu he might as well be speaking parables, and his destroy all humans assumption is simply a metaphor for Shinji's solipsism and impending willingness to commit suicide. Also, since Kaworu is an agent of Seele rather than an actual Angel, he might be as well an actual Adam who simply made the decision of backstabbing Seele, like Gendo.

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Well, besides the fact that if a god was created on the first try and then used against the Angels the plot would end up as either a boring GodModeSue or a Anime/SpaceRunawayIdeon ripoff if the Angels are at least a challenge with truly Lovecraftian superpowers, we might as well assume that the Angels are going to fuck up Instrumentality so badly it instead prevents Instrumentality and leads to the Angels becoming Kaworu-esque humans. Seele, being the douchebags that they are, instead inverted the whole fact and said that "the Angels are going to annihilate us and the only pathway for humanity's survival is for us to strike first". It can be asked, why go to such lengths? There are like a hundred ways for the destruction of humanity, right? Answer: Human Nature. Sure, Seele might be OmnicidalManiac {{Nietzsche Wannabe}}s, but when there's an Omnicidal Maniac there's going to be a bunch of heroes going to stop him in their will to survive. And no matter how convincing an Omnicidal Maniac's HannibalLecture MotiveRant may be, the majority will always be in the support of the heroes who "save the day". Asteroid Impact? No problem, we'll just blow it up. TheVirus? We'll cure it. Nuclear bombs? ZombieApocalypse? {{Nanomachines}}? {{Wave Motion Gun}}s? Ordinary waking up {{Eldritch Abomination}}s from the Great Beyond? [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu No problem with the power of the Human FIST!!!!]] And a bit of [[ForScience Science]]. Basically, Seele's plot involved turning the Human Fist against those innocent Cthulhus out there whose only wish is to BecomeARealBoy but cannot speak and thus are automatically AcceptableTargets by the ChewbaccaDefense, said punching out Cthulhu is merely a distraction designed to further Seele's real goal, which is actually backstabbing humanity to death in the form of a Yog-Sothoth who will eat humanity's souls once and for all. Which is fitting of an EvilPlan. Of course, that didn't prevent Instrumentality from still being fucked-up, since there is another backstabber by the name of Gendo Ikari. You may also ask, didn't Kaworu said something about him annihilating all of humanity? Yes he did, but since this is Kaworu he might as well be speaking parables, and his destroy all humans assumption is simply a metaphor for Shinji's solipsism and impending willingness to commit suicide. Also, since Kaworu is an agent of Seele rather than an actual Angel, he might be as well an actual Adam who simply made the decision of backstabbing Seele, like Gendo.


They're all just a bunch of [[GenericDoomsdayVillain one-dimensional]] ciphers that exist for justifying the plot and the existence of Instrumentality. The focus is on NERV, the Angels and deconstructing mecha anime, SEELE isn't important

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They're all just a bunch of [[GenericDoomsdayVillain one-dimensional]] ciphers that exist for justifying the plot and the existence of Instrumentality. The focus is on NERV, the Angels and deconstructing mecha anime, SEELE isn't importantimportant.

[[WMG: On why to kill the angels before the instrumentality.]]
If instrumentality was triggered before all angels were dead, and it was possible as showed in the EoE, they would be part or the LCL too, and no ones know what effects humanity would have, so they decided to wait until the last angel was dead.


Well, besides the fact that if a god was created on the first try and then used against the Angels the plot would end up as either a boring GodModeSue or a SpaceRunawayIdeon ripoff if the Angels are at least a challenge with truly Lovecraftian superpowers, we might as well assume that the Angels are going to fuck up Instrumentality so badly it instead prevents Instrumentality and leads to the Angels becoming Kaworu-esque humans. Seele, being the douchebags that they are, instead inverted the whole fact and said that "the Angels are going to annihilate us and the only pathway for humanity's survival is for us to strike first". It can be asked, why go to such lengths? There are like a hundred ways for the destruction of humanity, right? Answer: Human Nature. Sure, Seele might be OmnicidalManiac {{Nietzsche Wannabe}}s, but when there's an Omnicidal Maniac there's going to be a bunch of heroes going to stop him in their will to survive. And no matter how convincing an Omnicidal Maniac's HannibalLecture may be, the majority will always be in the support of the heroes who "save the day". Asteroid Impact? No problem, we'll just blow it up. TheVirus? We'll cure it. Nuclear bombs? ZombieApocalypse? {{Nanomachines}}? {{Wave Motion Gun}}s? Ordinary waking up {{Eldritch Abomination}}s from the Great Beyond? [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu No problem with the power of the Human FIST!!!!]] And a bit of [[ForScience Science]]. Basically, Seele's plot involved turning the Human Fist against those innocent Cthulhus out there whose only wish is to BecomeARealBoy but cannot speak and thus are automatically AcceptableTargets by the ChewbaccaDefense, said punching out Cthulhu is merely a distraction designed to further Seele's real goal, which is actually backstabbing humanity to death in the form of a Yog-Sothoth who will eat humanity's souls once and for all. Which is fitting of an EvilPlan. Of course, that didn't prevent Instrumentality from still being fucked-up, since there is another backstabber by the name of Gendo Ikari. You may also ask, didn't Kaworu said something about him annihilating all of humanity? Yes he did, but since this is Kaworu he might as well be speaking parables, and his destroy all humans assumption is simply a metaphor for Shinji's solipsism and impending willingness to commit suicide. Also, since Kaworu is an agent of Seele rather than an actual Angel, he might be as well an actual Adam who simply made the decision of backstabbing Seele, like Gendo.

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Well, besides the fact that if a god was created on the first try and then used against the Angels the plot would end up as either a boring GodModeSue or a SpaceRunawayIdeon Anime/SpaceRunawayIdeon ripoff if the Angels are at least a challenge with truly Lovecraftian superpowers, we might as well assume that the Angels are going to fuck up Instrumentality so badly it instead prevents Instrumentality and leads to the Angels becoming Kaworu-esque humans. Seele, being the douchebags that they are, instead inverted the whole fact and said that "the Angels are going to annihilate us and the only pathway for humanity's survival is for us to strike first". It can be asked, why go to such lengths? There are like a hundred ways for the destruction of humanity, right? Answer: Human Nature. Sure, Seele might be OmnicidalManiac {{Nietzsche Wannabe}}s, but when there's an Omnicidal Maniac there's going to be a bunch of heroes going to stop him in their will to survive. And no matter how convincing an Omnicidal Maniac's HannibalLecture may be, the majority will always be in the support of the heroes who "save the day". Asteroid Impact? No problem, we'll just blow it up. TheVirus? We'll cure it. Nuclear bombs? ZombieApocalypse? {{Nanomachines}}? {{Wave Motion Gun}}s? Ordinary waking up {{Eldritch Abomination}}s from the Great Beyond? [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu No problem with the power of the Human FIST!!!!]] And a bit of [[ForScience Science]]. Basically, Seele's plot involved turning the Human Fist against those innocent Cthulhus out there whose only wish is to BecomeARealBoy but cannot speak and thus are automatically AcceptableTargets by the ChewbaccaDefense, said punching out Cthulhu is merely a distraction designed to further Seele's real goal, which is actually backstabbing humanity to death in the form of a Yog-Sothoth who will eat humanity's souls once and for all. Which is fitting of an EvilPlan. Of course, that didn't prevent Instrumentality from still being fucked-up, since there is another backstabber by the name of Gendo Ikari. You may also ask, didn't Kaworu said something about him annihilating all of humanity? Yes he did, but since this is Kaworu he might as well be speaking parables, and his destroy all humans assumption is simply a metaphor for Shinji's solipsism and impending willingness to commit suicide. Also, since Kaworu is an agent of Seele rather than an actual Angel, he might be as well an actual Adam who simply made the decision of backstabbing Seele, like Gendo.


*** Maybe, SEELE already knew that the humans will remain ignorant and will have a fear of death, so if they create a pandemic, the world's scientists will just try to find a cure. That would make the euthanasia program a bitter failure. Other methods of Destroying The World, such as asteroids or Global Warming, will also fail because of the world's scientists continually finding solutions. All souls are also stuck in a cycle of reincarnation and evolution, and hence conventional Euthanasia is insufficient. People who commit suicide do not escape Reincarnation, because that act is very much a self-affirming defiance against their horrible lives, and hence suicidals still possess AT Fields. By using God, SEELE can annihilate that very fundamental [[Creator/RichardDawkins "Selfish Gene"]] that powers AT Fields and hence all life and suffering on Earth, allowing all souls to escape the Hell of Reincarnation and accept the Final Afterlife that God created for them, the Universal Reconciliation of Instrumentality. Unfortunately, they didn't realize the meaning of the title ''Neon Genesis Evangelion'': Gospel of the New Beginning, loosely translated, the Story of Rebirth.

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*** Maybe, SEELE already knew that the humans will remain ignorant and will have a fear of death, so if they create a pandemic, the world's scientists will just try to find a cure. That would make the euthanasia program a bitter failure. Other methods of Destroying The World, such as asteroids or Global Warming, will also fail because of the world's scientists continually finding solutions. All souls are also stuck in a cycle of reincarnation and evolution, and hence conventional Euthanasia is insufficient. People who commit suicide do not escape Reincarnation, because that act is very much a self-affirming defiance against their horrible lives, and hence suicidals still possess AT Fields. By using God, SEELE can annihilate that very fundamental [[Creator/RichardDawkins [[UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins "Selfish Gene"]] that powers AT Fields and hence all life and suffering on Earth, allowing all souls to escape the Hell of Reincarnation and accept the Final Afterlife that God created for them, the Universal Reconciliation of Instrumentality. Unfortunately, they didn't realize the meaning of the title ''Neon Genesis Evangelion'': Gospel of the New Beginning, loosely translated, the Story of Rebirth.


** If RebuildOfEvangelion is a sequel, then everyone returned to their states prior to Instrumentality. Due to the nature of Instrumentality giving you what you want, some people have happier memories in their lives, and are much more mentally stable than they were prior to it.

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** If RebuildOfEvangelion ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' is a sequel, then everyone returned to their states prior to Instrumentality. Due to the nature of Instrumentality giving you what you want, some people have happier memories in their lives, and are much more mentally stable than they were prior to it.



After the death of Kaworu, Shinji get very depressed and angry with everyone, then, in all that rage he din't care about that we can't divide by zero and he ended up doing it. And he didn't do a normal division by zero... , HE DIVIDE ZERO BY ZERO!!!!. After all that [[MindScrew mindscrewing]] [[ApocalypseHow apocalypse Class 5]], the world actually resets itself [[RebuildOfEvangelion now with 40% less angst and 100% more badass]].

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After the death of Kaworu, Shinji get very depressed and angry with everyone, then, in all that rage he din't care about that we can't divide by zero and he ended up doing it. And he didn't do a normal division by zero... , HE DIVIDE ZERO BY ZERO!!!!. After all that [[MindScrew mindscrewing]] [[ApocalypseHow apocalypse Class 5]], the world actually resets itself [[RebuildOfEvangelion [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion now with 40% less angst and 100% more badass]].


* In the manga, the ecosystem went back just fine though.

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* In the manga, the ecosystem went back just fine though.though.

[[WMG: There is no motive for SEELE.]]
They're all just a bunch of [[GenericDoomsdayVillain one-dimensional]] ciphers that exist for justifying the plot and the existence of Instrumentality. The focus is on NERV, the Angels and deconstructing mecha anime, SEELE isn't important


** Is it me or does this troper thinks that SEELE was somehow related to Website/FourChan?
*** Gendo Ikari is [[spoiler:future moot]] then, after being corrupted by /b/ and developing a severe case of [[PerverseSexualLust Galatea syndrome]] for Rei Ayanami. This leads to an alternate timeline where [[MemeticMutation TEH REI]] was a more lasting meme than she was in our world, leading to [[spoiler:moot]] turning into a [[MisaimedFandom misaimed fan]] of SEELE's goals after becoming like Anonymous and then watching Evangelion, followed by the events of Evangelion happening due to Anonymous interference and then sending back records as the Evangelion we know, creating a StableTimeLoop when Rei becomes a {{Memetic Sex God}}dess.
**** Adding to that, Project Chanology and its aftermath introduced [[spoiler:moot]] to Scientology, which inspired him to cause the outlawing of psychology post-Second Impact through his AncientConspiracy world control, allowing all of humanity to go mad enough that they might accept this crazy Instrumentality thing. This backfired when one of the most disturbed people on Earth (who was purposefully broken as part of the grand master plan!) was given control of the process, and he turned out to be analogous to SoBadItsGood: Shinji turned out so crazy by the end that he had a moment of powerful sanity, and in that very moment he rejected Instrumentality. [[spoiler:Future moot]]'s plan to make Teh Rei a Memetic Sex Goddess and break Shinji into a justifiably emo warrior with an occasional berserker rage [[GoneHorriblyRight turned out too successful]], to the ruin of the plan, all because a bunch of Internet users protested Scientology.
***** Or, the events of NGE was the possible result of the actions of both Scientology and Anon, as a response to the discovery of the AT Field and Adam. In this timeline, after the popularity of TEH REI, everybody discovered that AT Fields are real, as well as the existence of the aliens (Christians and {{cargo cult}}ists often called them Angels and the name stuck), but the factions who most exploited it were Scientology, which used the AT Field technology (and their abundance of money) to design "alien weapons", and Anon, who used the AT Field tech for Mind Uploading, [[Franchise/GhostInTheShell "ghost hacking"]] and doing all kinds of {{cyberpunk}} ''[[Franchise/TheMatrix Matrix]]'' shit (hence Naoko's development of the MAGI supercomputers with herself as software, and the Synchronization technology behind Evangelions) while trolling government organizations in Real Life (such as the Japanese Government, the USA and the United Nations). When the UN decided to meddle, they accidentally activated Adam while the Angels invaded, causing Second Impact, and Scientology used this as propaganda aka an invasion of "Xenu", as well as using their lawyers, allowing them to merge with Judaism and Christianity as a One World Religion and take control of the world for a while, changing the date to 2000 (when in fact it was the distant future, see also [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]) and outlawing psychology, hence why ThereAreNoTherapists. Christianity still looks like the dominant religion, hence the title ''Neon Genesis Evangelion'', but the organizations are under control of Judaeo-Gnostic-Scientological Illuminati cults such as SEELE. \\
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The world fell into grim darkness, despair and anti-lulz, yet Anon still survived, and discovered if the AT Fields of all people are removed, they can bring the power and lulz of a united Anonymous back to the world. The most effective way to corrupt and dissolve someone's AT Field? PerverseSexualLust, or as we say it, breaking the fourth wall and oneself's AT Field for promise of unconditional love. For example, Religions such as the cult of Love of Jesus Christ. People let themselves be killed for the sake of Jesus' Love. It alone cannot destroy the AT Field, but when combined with MemeticMutation, or as we say it, TheVirus, and psychically projected all over the world, it will be turned UpToEleven and break down the person's ego like a corrupting virus, preparing them for assimilation by the super-Internet TechnologicalSingularity a.k.a. "The Wired" (''Anime/SerialExperimentsLain'', with Lain as a failed prototype-Rei and instead erased herself from existence). Once everybody's Collective Unconscious is assimilated by the Wired, they can exist as a united collective anonymous [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Integrated Data Thought Entity]] and manifest Meme-Gods such as Lain and Rei, and warp physics like the Angels. They start Instrumentality from Japan and chose TEH REI as the meme, because of the Japanese's desperate amounts of Galatea syndrome which mutated into the {{Moe}} Archetype (a relic of their extinct YamatoNadeshiko archetype). Anon transformed [[spoiler:moot]] into Gendo Ikari using plastic surgery, and worked out to transform TEH REI from an old meme into an actual Artificial Moe-ssiah. \\
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By creating IRL Rei Ayanami, and psychically seeding her all over the world using a cyborg dubbed "Eva" to infect everybody with memetic Galatea syndrome, Instrumentality happened and everyone became Anons united with the Wired Data Overmind, but it went wrong when the Eva's original pilot, Shinji Ikari, was so emo and anti-lulz in his DespairEventHorizon that he decided to ditch everything and become The Immortal GodEmperor of Emo-kind who shall henceforth be known as [[spoiler:Xenu]]. As a result, Rei Ayanami malfunctioned leading to her death. \\
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[[spoiler:Xenu-Shinji]], a sort-of [[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Demiurge]] figure driven to insanity by his childhood traumas into a power-hungry combination of Yahweh, UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler (The Original Emo Kid), [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Big Brother]], and Asuka on a perpetual PMS, then stole some of Anon Data Overmind's God Powers, [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans and turned the universe into a]] {{Dystopia}}n [[CrapsackWorld Hell]] (a twisted caricature of [[spoiler:Shinji's]] miserable life) with himself as Supreme EvilOverlord {{God|IsEvil}}. He sent several races of aliens (including but not limited to: [[Literature/TheBible humanoid aliens with wings]], [[{{Atlantis}} an underwater civilization of crystal spires and togas]], [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic a race of magical Moe Ponies prone to Cutie Mark Failure Insanity Syndrome]], and [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica a race of Magical Girls from another Earth who mutate into Angel-like reality-warpers that generate limitless entropy-defying energy once they suffer Absolute Despair]]) who dared to commit ThoughtCrime (including but not limited to: insulting [[spoiler:Shinji]], or [[WideEyedIdealist simple optimism]], or not being emo enough) to a concentration camp planet called Teegeeack where their bodies were converted into Tang, and their Souls (Thetans) were then {{Mind Rape}}d by [[spoiler:Shinji's]] Freudian Psychoanalysis [[AndIMustScream and imprisoned alive into]] [[Anime/FullMetalAlchemist Philosopher's Stones (Angel Cores and S2 Engines)]] [[PoweredByAForsakenChild so that the Despair generated by their eternal torture will provide eternal energy to defy the Laws of]] EquivalentExchange (again, like ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''), all part of [[spoiler:Shinji's]] twisted Galatea Syndrome to create a Moe waifu goddess as immortal as he is (reconstructing Rei but under his control instead of Anon's) yet also perpetually miserable to suffer with him forever. \\
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The Anon Data Overmind, in [[ComicBook/VForVendetta vendetta]] (and ForTheEvulz) waged war and encouraged Rebellion against [[spoiler:Shinji's]] oppressive Legions of Absolute Despair, hence why Anon resents Emos. It was a long, bloody and epic [[{{Gotterdammerung}} Ragnarok]] of galactic proportions (the Scientologists didn't call it a "SpaceOpera" for nothing, and it was a case of BlackAndGreyMorality with Anon as Grey and [[spoiler:Shinji]] as Emo ''Anime/DarkerThanBlack''. Anon may be {{jerkass}}es, but they're jerks who fight for freedom, in contrast to the Celestial North Korea that [[spoiler:Shinji]] created.) Eventually, Anon emerged in PyrrhicVictory when they 1337 [=H4X0R3D=] [[spoiler:Shinji's]] precious Waifu Project, stole the central prototype-Moe software leaving only the Adam component (which explains Kaworu's homosexuality for Shinji), implanted that Moe software (who would become Rei Ayanami) into Lilith, infected Lilith with nanoviruses and crashed it back onto Teegeeack, starting the cycle of TEH REI, The Wired, Instrumentality and Lulz once again. [[spoiler:Xenu]] descended to the Tang that used to be the millions of aliens he murdered, and planted his thetan into the very genetic ancestry of [[spoiler:moot aka Gendo Ikari, to curse Anon's primary agent of being the father of Xenu himself]]. Fast forward billons of years later on Teegeeack, the Tang reform themselves into organic life, humans discover Adam, TEH REI becomes popular, and Shinji suffers a horrible childhood to awaken his identity as [[spoiler:Xenu]]... Let's just say "[[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya We have entered an]] EndlessRecursionOfTime".
****** The concept of [[spoiler:moot]] being [[spoiler:Gendo Ikari]] and the concept of [[spoiler:Xenu]] being [[spoiler:both the First Ancestral Race and Shinji Ikari]], and Teegeeack being cursed to repeat the curse of Evangelion once again for eternity is kinda interesting, but it makes more sense if Seele, with their obsession with alien precursors, were the Scientology guys while Gendo, being the [[MemeticMutation Uber-Pimp that he is]], worked separately for Anonymous and against the scientology guys, leading to him and Teh Rei haxoring the entire Instrumentality plan and putting the Instrumentality less in favour of a crap imitation of psychoanalysis and more in favour of trolling us otakus for teh lulz.
***** Some of Anonymous' quotes are "We are everyone and we are no one" and "United as one, divided by zero". The Instrumentality is specifically described by Rei in ''End of Evangelion'' as "a place where you exist everywhere, yet you are nowhere, all at once" and "a world where we are all one". Coincidence?
****** It was also likely that one of Anon's members was an Evangelion fanboy, and also some of Anon's members have influence in the workings of the government......


* Or, combined with an above WMG, he started Instrumentality as a Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum right after [[spoiler: Kaworu's death.]] Then, unsatisfied with even that, he started the whole GroundhogDayLoop and dragged the whole world with him to find the best ending. Only, he kept erasing his own memories because he didn't want to remember all the hurts and face the past. And every spin-off ever is just a loop.

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* Or, combined with an above WMG, alternatively, he started Instrumentality as a Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum right after [[spoiler: Kaworu's death.]] Then, unsatisfied with even that, he started the whole GroundhogDayLoop and dragged the whole world with him to find the best ending. Only, he kept erasing his own memories because he didn't want to remember all the hurts and face the past. And every spin-off ever ever, End of Evangelion and the last two episodes included, is just a part of the loop.



As noted in the FridgeHorror, without a conscious decision you cannot leave the ocean of LCL. Most animals wouldn't fit in this category, along with all other life except humanity. As such, the resurfaced ecosystem would find it impossible to sustain itself. [[SadisticChoice So either you stay in the Tang without individuality, or die with it.]]

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As noted in the FridgeHorror, without a conscious decision you cannot leave the ocean of LCL. Most animals wouldn't fit in this category, along with all other life except humanity. As such, the resurfaced ecosystem would find it impossible to sustain itself. [[SadisticChoice So either you stay in the Tang without individuality, or die with it.]]]]
* In the manga, the ecosystem went back just fine though.


* This makes a surprising amount of sense. Yui, at the end of the End of Evangelion, did say that happiness can only be found when Shinji woke up from his dream, after all. The entire franchise can then be summed up as a series of mental time loops done by Shinji in order to find the way toward future/escape the dreams. The end of the TV series is the actual "ending", in which we can clearly see that Shinji was still stuck on the Black Moon when he seemingly received the applause of everyone else, as in, when he seemed to have gotten his wish granted. However, as the End of Evangelion indicated, he was still unhappy with the ending, and his true wish was still not granted. The AdamandEve plot he found himself in with the broken doll version of Asuka still failed to satisfied him (Asuka's "Kimochi warui" - bad emotion and the strangling indicated that this "Adam" and "Eve"'s destructive relationship was still destructive, making them completely incompatible to each other and to the roles assigned, probably because they were, in essence, both Eves (Lilins), or at least, Lilith (Asuka, a Lilin - child of Lilith) and Eve (Shinji, because he was Rei/Yui's successor and the core of the whole Instrumentality process, probably inheriting Lilith's seed of Knowledge as a side effect), and because Kaworu, who was the only person who Shinji/Rei/Lilith/Eve accepted as Adam, was pretty much dead at the time), even though that was what he thought he wished for at the end of the TV series. Thus, Shinji inadvertently kicked start the first loop by wishing for something else, his other half, perhaps. If we see Instrumentality as a single mother's pregnancy (Rei's rejection of Gendo, preventing him from becoming the new Adam, the part of the original Adam inside Instrumentality was just the minimum contribution of an embryo), then his rejection of Instrumentality can be seen as an abortion because he refused to be a single mother/the new progenitor (probably Eve) to the neo-humans/the future without Adam, just as Gendo rejected Shinji himself - Gendo's and Yui's own child, the symbol of the future, in favour of yearning after his seemingly dead wife Yui - the past. If the lyrics of A cruel angel's thesis is intentional, then the key to the future would be for Shinji to "spread his wings"/accept his responsibility as the new progenitor, which didn't happen in EoE because that Shinji wished for the world to return to the CrapsackWorld it had been instead of rebuilding it into something better. This theory would also explain why Kaworu was the only character aside from Shinji to have change personality in every incarnation: he was Adam, so he was not a part of Lilith's Black Moon - the egg in which humanity is dreaming. While we definitely weren't and probably aren't going to be shown every loop ever, we can attempt to arrange the known loops in the franchise in chronological order: TV series => End of Evangelion => manga => Rebuild, or, alternatively, TV series => End of Evangelion => Rebuild => manga. Jury's still out on which order is the correct one. Backed by the loss of the SDAT player at the end of 3.0 - which had been unsubtly hinted to be Shinji's only emotional crutch after Kaworu's death and his only reason to keep going/looping, the former would probably be the happier one, if only because of Kaworu's little promise at the end of 3.0, Asuka's improved mental state and her not letting Shinji escaping to his own reality again. The latter is most definitely the more likely (Kaworu's whole process of falling in love (TV series) to gaining determination (Rebuild) to giving into despair (manga), the "beginning is the same as the end" quote, alluding that both the TV series and the manga have the name of Neon Genesis Evangelion, Shinji had an ipod - something from the future, instead of his old SDAT because the SDAT was lost in the previous loop, the repeat sign in the title of 3.0 + 1.0) the more bittersweet: even though Shinji himself seemed to have kept his memory intact this time and promised to proceed toward a forever extending future after boarding another train - a metaphor for another loop, Kaworu seemed to have given up on a happy ending for good, meaning that the end of the particular loop we had been shown in Rebuild must be spectacularly bad even in comparison to all the other bad ends. If that's the case, then hopefully, now that Shinji has gained the key - his past memories and the courage to face the past, the final loop won't be too disastrous and will reach a happy ending for all involved somehow. Or, even better, the repeat sign is actually an end sign, and we will finally be shown what the fuck actually happened in this franchise.

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* This makes a surprising amount of sense. Yui, at the end of the End of Evangelion, did say that happiness can only be found when Shinji woke up from his dream, after all. The entire franchise can then be summed up as a series of mental time loops done by Shinji in order to find the way toward future/escape the dreams. The end of the TV series is the actual "ending", in which we can clearly see that Shinji was still stuck on the Black Moon when he seemingly received the applause of everyone else, as in, when he seemed to have gotten his wish granted. However, as the End of Evangelion indicated, he was still unhappy with the ending, and his true wish was still not granted. The AdamandEve plot AdamandEvePlot he found himself in with the broken doll version of Asuka still failed to satisfied him (Asuka's "Kimochi warui" - bad emotion and the strangling indicated that this "Adam" and "Eve"'s destructive relationship was still destructive, making them completely incompatible to each other and to the roles assigned, probably because they were, in essence, both Eves (Lilins), or at least, Lilith (Asuka, a Lilin - child of Lilith) and Eve (Shinji, because he was Rei/Yui's successor and the core of the whole Instrumentality process, probably inheriting Lilith's seed of Knowledge as a side effect), and because Kaworu, who was the only person who Shinji/Rei/Lilith/Eve accepted as Adam, was pretty much dead at the time), even though that was what he thought he wished for at the end of the TV series. Thus, Shinji inadvertently kicked start the first loop by wishing for something else, his other half, perhaps. If we see Instrumentality as a single mother's pregnancy (Rei's rejection of Gendo, preventing him from becoming the new Adam, the part of the original Adam inside Instrumentality was just the minimum contribution of an embryo), then his rejection of Instrumentality can be seen as an abortion because he refused to be a single mother/the new progenitor (probably Eve) to the neo-humans/the future without Adam, just as Gendo rejected Shinji himself - Gendo's and Yui's own child, the symbol of the future, in favour of yearning after his seemingly dead wife Yui - the past. If the lyrics of A cruel angel's thesis is intentional, then the key to the future would be for Shinji to "spread his wings"/accept his responsibility as the new progenitor, which didn't happen in EoE because that Shinji wished for the world to return to the CrapsackWorld it had been instead of rebuilding it into something better. This theory would also explain why Kaworu was the only character aside from Shinji to have change personality in every incarnation: he was Adam, so he was not a part of Lilith's Black Moon - the egg in which humanity is dreaming. While we definitely weren't and probably aren't going to be shown every loop ever, we can attempt to arrange the known loops in the franchise in chronological order: TV series => End of Evangelion => manga => Rebuild, or, alternatively, TV series => End of Evangelion => Rebuild => manga. Jury's still out on which order is the correct one. Backed by the loss of the SDAT player at the end of 3.0 - which had been unsubtly hinted to be Shinji's only emotional crutch after Kaworu's death and his only reason to keep going/looping, the former would probably be the happier one, if only because of Kaworu's little promise at the end of 3.0, Asuka's improved mental state and her not letting Shinji escaping to his own reality again. The latter is most definitely the more likely (Kaworu's whole process of falling in love (TV series) to gaining determination (Rebuild) to giving into despair (manga), the "beginning is the same as the end" quote, alluding that both the TV series and the manga have the name of Neon Genesis Evangelion, Shinji had an ipod - something from the future, instead of his old SDAT because the SDAT was lost in the previous loop, the repeat sign in the title of 3.0 + 1.0) the more bittersweet: even though Shinji himself seemed to have kept his memory intact this time and promised to proceed toward a forever extending future after boarding another train - a metaphor for another loop, Kaworu seemed to have given up on a happy ending for good, meaning that the end of the particular loop we had been shown in Rebuild must be spectacularly bad even in comparison to all the other bad ends. If that's the case, then hopefully, now that Shinji has gained the key - his past memories and the courage to face the past, the final loop won't be too disastrous and will reach a happy ending for all involved somehow. Or, even better, the repeat sign is actually an end sign, and we will finally be shown what the fuck actually happened in this franchise.



[[WMG: Instrumentality never happened. [[spoiler: Ever since Kaworu's death, Shinji Ikari actually committed [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]]].]]

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[[WMG: Instrumentality never happened. [[spoiler: Ever since Kaworu's death, Shinji Ikari actually committed [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]]].]]suicide]]]]]]




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* Or, combined with an above WMG, he started Instrumentality as a Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum right after [[spoiler: Kaworu's death.]] Then, unsatisfied with even that, he started the whole GroundhogDayLoop and dragged the whole world with him to find the best ending. Only, he kept erasing his own memories because he didn't want to remember all the hurts and face the past. And every spin-off ever is just a loop.


* This makes a surprising amount of sense. Yui, at the end of the End of Evangelion, did say that happiness can only be found when Shinji woke up from his dream, after all. The entire franchise can then be summed up as a series of mental time loops done by Shinji in order to find the way toward future/escape the dreams. The end of the TV series is the actual "ending", in which we can clearly see that Shinji was still stuck on the Black Moon when he seemingly received the applause of everyone else, as in, when he seemed to have gotten his wish granted. However, as the End of Evangelion indicated, he was still unhappy with the ending, and his true wish was still not granted. The AdamandEve plot he found himself in with the broken doll version of Asuka still failed to satisfied him (Asuka's "Kimochi warui" - bad emotion and the strangling indicated that this "Adam" and "Eve"'s destructive relationship was still destructive, making them completely incompatible to each other and to the roles assigned, probably because they were, in essence, both Eves (Lilins), or at least, Lilith (Asuka, a Lilin - child of Lilith) and Eve (Shinji, because he was Rei/Yui's successor and the core of the whole Instrumentality process, probably inheriting Lilith's seed of Knowledge as a side effect), and Adam (Kaworu) was M.I.A/dead at that time), even though that was what he thought he wished for at the end of the TV series. Thus, Shinji inadvertently kicked start the first loop by wishing for something else, his other half, perhaps. If we see Instrumentality as a single mother's pregnancy (Rei's rejection of Gendo, the part of Adam inside Instrumentality was just the minimum contribution of an embryo), then his rejection of Instrumentality can be seen as an abortion because he refused to be a single mother/the new progenitor (probably Eve) to the neo-humans/the future without Adam, just as Gendo rejected Shinji himself - Gendo's and Yui's own child, the symbol of the future, in favour of yearning after his seemingly dead wife Yui - the past. If the lyrics of A cruel angel's thesis is intentional, then the key to the future would be for Shinji to "spread his wings"/accept his responsibility as the new progenitor, which didn't happen in EoE because that Shinji wished for the world to return to the CrapsackWorld it had been instead of rebuilding it into something better. This theory would also explain why Kaworu was the only character aside from Shinji to have change personality in every incarnation: he was Adam, so he was not a part of Lilith's Black Moon - the egg in which humanity is dreaming. While we definitely weren't and probably aren't going to be shown every loop ever, we can attempt to arrange the known loops in the franchise in chronological order: TV series => End of Evangelion => manga => Rebuild, or, alternatively, TV series => End of Evangelion => Rebuild => manga. Jury's still out on which order is the correct one. Backed by the loss of the SDAT player at the end of 3.0 - which had been unsubtly hinted to be Shinji's only emotional crutch after Kaworu's death and his only reason to keep going/looping, the former would probably be the happier one, if only because of Kaworu's little promise at the end of 3.0, Asuka's improved mental state and her not letting Shinji escaping to his own reality again. The latter is most definitely the more likely (Kaworu's whole process of falling in love (TV series) to gaining determination (Rebuild) to giving into despair (manga), the "beginning is the same as the end" quote, alluding that both the TV series and the manga have the name of Neon Genesis Evangelion, Shinji had an ipod - something from the future, instead of his old SDAT because the SDAT was lost in the previous loop, the repeat sign in the title of 3.0 + 1.0) the more bittersweet: even though Shinji himself seemed to have kept his memory intact this time and promised to proceed toward a forever extending future after boarding another train - a metaphor for another loop, Kaworu seemed to have given up on a happy ending for good, meaning that the end of the particular loop we had been shown in Rebuild must be spectacularly bad even in comparison to all the other bad ends. If that's the case, then hopefully, now that Shinji has gained the key - his past memories and the courage to face the past, the final loop won't be too disastrous and will reach a happy ending for all involved somehow. Or, even better, the repeat sign is actually an end sign, and we will finally be shown what the fuck actually happened in this franchise.

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* This makes a surprising amount of sense. Yui, at the end of the End of Evangelion, did say that happiness can only be found when Shinji woke up from his dream, after all. The entire franchise can then be summed up as a series of mental time loops done by Shinji in order to find the way toward future/escape the dreams. The end of the TV series is the actual "ending", in which we can clearly see that Shinji was still stuck on the Black Moon when he seemingly received the applause of everyone else, as in, when he seemed to have gotten his wish granted. However, as the End of Evangelion indicated, he was still unhappy with the ending, and his true wish was still not granted. The AdamandEve plot he found himself in with the broken doll version of Asuka still failed to satisfied him (Asuka's "Kimochi warui" - bad emotion and the strangling indicated that this "Adam" and "Eve"'s destructive relationship was still destructive, making them completely incompatible to each other and to the roles assigned, probably because they were, in essence, both Eves (Lilins), or at least, Lilith (Asuka, a Lilin - child of Lilith) and Eve (Shinji, because he was Rei/Yui's successor and the core of the whole Instrumentality process, probably inheriting Lilith's seed of Knowledge as a side effect), and Adam (Kaworu) because Kaworu, who was M.I.A/dead the only person who Shinji/Rei/Lilith/Eve accepted as Adam, was pretty much dead at that the time), even though that was what he thought he wished for at the end of the TV series. Thus, Shinji inadvertently kicked start the first loop by wishing for something else, his other half, perhaps. If we see Instrumentality as a single mother's pregnancy (Rei's rejection of Gendo, preventing him from becoming the new Adam, the part of the original Adam inside Instrumentality was just the minimum contribution of an embryo), then his rejection of Instrumentality can be seen as an abortion because he refused to be a single mother/the new progenitor (probably Eve) to the neo-humans/the future without Adam, just as Gendo rejected Shinji himself - Gendo's and Yui's own child, the symbol of the future, in favour of yearning after his seemingly dead wife Yui - the past. If the lyrics of A cruel angel's thesis is intentional, then the key to the future would be for Shinji to "spread his wings"/accept his responsibility as the new progenitor, which didn't happen in EoE because that Shinji wished for the world to return to the CrapsackWorld it had been instead of rebuilding it into something better. This theory would also explain why Kaworu was the only character aside from Shinji to have change personality in every incarnation: he was Adam, so he was not a part of Lilith's Black Moon - the egg in which humanity is dreaming. While we definitely weren't and probably aren't going to be shown every loop ever, we can attempt to arrange the known loops in the franchise in chronological order: TV series => End of Evangelion => manga => Rebuild, or, alternatively, TV series => End of Evangelion => Rebuild => manga. Jury's still out on which order is the correct one. Backed by the loss of the SDAT player at the end of 3.0 - which had been unsubtly hinted to be Shinji's only emotional crutch after Kaworu's death and his only reason to keep going/looping, the former would probably be the happier one, if only because of Kaworu's little promise at the end of 3.0, Asuka's improved mental state and her not letting Shinji escaping to his own reality again. The latter is most definitely the more likely (Kaworu's whole process of falling in love (TV series) to gaining determination (Rebuild) to giving into despair (manga), the "beginning is the same as the end" quote, alluding that both the TV series and the manga have the name of Neon Genesis Evangelion, Shinji had an ipod - something from the future, instead of his old SDAT because the SDAT was lost in the previous loop, the repeat sign in the title of 3.0 + 1.0) the more bittersweet: even though Shinji himself seemed to have kept his memory intact this time and promised to proceed toward a forever extending future after boarding another train - a metaphor for another loop, Kaworu seemed to have given up on a happy ending for good, meaning that the end of the particular loop we had been shown in Rebuild must be spectacularly bad even in comparison to all the other bad ends. If that's the case, then hopefully, now that Shinji has gained the key - his past memories and the courage to face the past, the final loop won't be too disastrous and will reach a happy ending for all involved somehow. Or, even better, the repeat sign is actually an end sign, and we will finally be shown what the fuck actually happened in this franchise.


* This makes a surprising amount of sense. Yui, at the end of EoE, did say that happiness can only be found when Shinji woke up from his dream, after all. The entire franchise can then be summed up as a series of mental time loops done by Shinji in order to find the way toward future/escape the dreams. The end of the TV series is the actual "ending", in which we can clearly see that Shinji was still stuck on the Black Moon when he seemingly received the applause of everyone else, as in, when he seemed to have gotten his wish granted. However, as EoE indicated, he was still unhappy with the ending, and his true wish was still not granted. The Adam and Eve plot he found himself with the broken doll Asuka still failed to satisfied him (Asuka's "Kimochi warui" - bad emotion, the strangling, which indicated that this "Adam" and "Eve"'s destructive relationship is still destructive, making them completely incompatible to each other and to the roles assigned, probably because they were, in essence, both Eves (Lilins), or at least, Lilith (Asuka, a Lilin - child of Lilith) and Eve (Shinji), and Adam was M.I.A at that time), even though that was what he thought he wished for at the end of the TV series. Thus, Shinji inadvertently kicked start the first loop by wishing for something else, his other half, perhaps. If we see Instrumentality as a single mother's pregnancy (Rei's rejection of Gendo, the part of Adam inside Instrumentality was just the minimum contribution of an embryo), then his rejection of Instrumentality can be seen as an abortion because he refused to be a single mother/the new progenitor (probably Eve) to the neo-humans without Adam, just as Gendo rejected Shinji himself - his own child and the symbol of the future, in favour of yearning after his seemingly dead wife Yui - the past. If the lyrics of A cruel angel's thesis is intentional, then the key to the future would be for Shinji to "spread his wings"/accept his responsibility as the new progenitor, which didn't happen in EoE because that Shinji wished for the world to return to the CrapsackWorld it had been instead of becoming something better. This theory would also explain why Kaworu was the only character aside from Shinji to have change personality in every incarnation: he was Adam, so he was not a part of Lilith's Black Moon - the egg in which humanity is dreaming. While we definitely weren't and probably aren't going to be shown every loop ever, we can attempt to arrange the known loops in the franchise in chronological order: TV series => End of Evangelion => manga => Rebuild, or, alternatively, TV series => End of Evangelion => Rebuild => manga. Jury's still out on which order is the correct one. Backed by the loss of the SDAT player at the end of 3.0 - which had been unsubtly hinted to be Shinji's only emotional crutch after Kaworu's death and his only reason to keep going/looping, the former would probably be the happier one, if only because of Kaworu's little promise at the end of 3.0, Asuka's improved mental state and her not letting Shinji escaping to his own reality again. The latter is most definitely the more likely (Kaworu's whole process of falling in love (TV series) to gaining determination (Rebuild) to giving into despair (manga), the "beginning is the same as the end" quote, alluding that both the TV series and the manga have the name of Neon Genesis Evangelion, Shinji had an ipod - something from the future, instead of his old SDAT because the SDAT was lost in the previous loop, the repeat sign in the title of 3.0 + 1.0) the more bittersweet: even though Shinji himself seemed to have kept his memory intact this time and promised to proceed toward a forever extending future after boarding another train - a metaphor for another loop, Kaworu seemed to have given up on a happy ending for good, meaning that the end of 3.0 + 1.0 must be spectacularly bad even in comparison to all the other bad ends. If that's the case, then hopefully, now that Shinji had gained the key - his past memories and the courage to face the past, the final loop won't be too disastrous and will reach a happy ending for all involved somehow.

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* This makes a surprising amount of sense. Yui, at the end of EoE, the End of Evangelion, did say that happiness can only be found when Shinji woke up from his dream, after all. The entire franchise can then be summed up as a series of mental time loops done by Shinji in order to find the way toward future/escape the dreams. The end of the TV series is the actual "ending", in which we can clearly see that Shinji was still stuck on the Black Moon when he seemingly received the applause of everyone else, as in, when he seemed to have gotten his wish granted. However, as EoE the End of Evangelion indicated, he was still unhappy with the ending, and his true wish was still not granted. The Adam and Eve AdamandEve plot he found himself in with the broken doll version of Asuka still failed to satisfied him (Asuka's "Kimochi warui" - bad emotion, emotion and the strangling, which strangling indicated that this "Adam" and "Eve"'s destructive relationship is was still destructive, making them completely incompatible to each other and to the roles assigned, probably because they were, in essence, both Eves (Lilins), or at least, Lilith (Asuka, a Lilin - child of Lilith) and Eve (Shinji), (Shinji, because he was Rei/Yui's successor and the core of the whole Instrumentality process, probably inheriting Lilith's seed of Knowledge as a side effect), and Adam (Kaworu) was M.I.A A/dead at that time), even though that was what he thought he wished for at the end of the TV series. Thus, Shinji inadvertently kicked start the first loop by wishing for something else, his other half, perhaps. If we see Instrumentality as a single mother's pregnancy (Rei's rejection of Gendo, the part of Adam inside Instrumentality was just the minimum contribution of an embryo), then his rejection of Instrumentality can be seen as an abortion because he refused to be a single mother/the new progenitor (probably Eve) to the neo-humans neo-humans/the future without Adam, just as Gendo rejected Shinji himself - his Gendo's and Yui's own child and child, the symbol of the future, in favour of yearning after his seemingly dead wife Yui - the past. If the lyrics of A cruel angel's thesis is intentional, then the key to the future would be for Shinji to "spread his wings"/accept his responsibility as the new progenitor, which didn't happen in EoE because that Shinji wished for the world to return to the CrapsackWorld it had been instead of becoming rebuilding it into something better. This theory would also explain why Kaworu was the only character aside from Shinji to have change personality in every incarnation: he was Adam, so he was not a part of Lilith's Black Moon - the egg in which humanity is dreaming. While we definitely weren't and probably aren't going to be shown every loop ever, we can attempt to arrange the known loops in the franchise in chronological order: TV series => End of Evangelion => manga => Rebuild, or, alternatively, TV series => End of Evangelion => Rebuild => manga. Jury's still out on which order is the correct one. Backed by the loss of the SDAT player at the end of 3.0 - which had been unsubtly hinted to be Shinji's only emotional crutch after Kaworu's death and his only reason to keep going/looping, the former would probably be the happier one, if only because of Kaworu's little promise at the end of 3.0, Asuka's improved mental state and her not letting Shinji escaping to his own reality again. The latter is most definitely the more likely (Kaworu's whole process of falling in love (TV series) to gaining determination (Rebuild) to giving into despair (manga), the "beginning is the same as the end" quote, alluding that both the TV series and the manga have the name of Neon Genesis Evangelion, Shinji had an ipod - something from the future, instead of his old SDAT because the SDAT was lost in the previous loop, the repeat sign in the title of 3.0 + 1.0) the more bittersweet: even though Shinji himself seemed to have kept his memory intact this time and promised to proceed toward a forever extending future after boarding another train - a metaphor for another loop, Kaworu seemed to have given up on a happy ending for good, meaning that the end of 3.0 + 1.0 the particular loop we had been shown in Rebuild must be spectacularly bad even in comparison to all the other bad ends. If that's the case, then hopefully, now that Shinji had has gained the key - his past memories and the courage to face the past, the final loop won't be too disastrous and will reach a happy ending for all involved somehow.
somehow. Or, even better, the repeat sign is actually an end sign, and we will finally be shown what the fuck actually happened in this franchise.


* This makes a surprising amount of sense. Yui, at the end of EoE, did say that happiness can only be found when Shinji woke up from his dream, after all. The entire franchise can then be summed up as a series of mental time loops done by Shinji in order to find the way toward future/escape the dreams. The end of the TV series is the actual "ending", in which we can clearly see that Shinji was still stuck on the Black Moon when he seemingly received the applause of everyone else, as in, when he seemed to have gotten his wish granted. However, as EoE indicated, he was still unhappy with the ending, and his true wish was still not granted. The Adam and Eve plot he found himself with the broken doll Asuka still failed to satisfied him (Asuka's "Kimochi warui" - bad emotion, is a particularly important clue), even though that was what he thought he wished for at the end of the TV series. Thus, Shinji inadvertently kicked start the first loop by wishing for something else, his other half, perhaps. If we see Instrumentality as a single mother's pregnancy (Rei's rejection of Gendo, the part of Adam inside Instrumentality was just the minimum contribution of an embryo), then his rejection of Instrumentality can be seen as an abortion because he refused to be a single mother/the new progenitor to the neo-humans, just as Gendo rejected Shinji himself - his own child and the symbol of the future, in favour of yearning after his seemingly dead wife Yui - the past. If the lyrics of A cruel angel's thesis is intentional, then the key to the future would be for Shinji to "spread his wings"/accept his responsibility as the new progenitor, which didn't happen in EoE because that Shinji wished for the world to return to the CrapsackWorld it had been instead of becoming something better. This theory would also explain why Kaworu was the only character aside from Shinji to have change personality in every incarnation: he was Adam, so he was not a part of Lilith's Black Moon - the egg in which humanity is dreaming. While we definitely weren't and probably aren't going to be shown every loop ever, we can attempt to arrange the known loops in the franchise in chronological order: TV series => End of Evangelion => manga => Rebuild, or, alternatively, TV series => End of Evangelion => Rebuild => manga. Jury's still out on which order is the correct one. Backed by the loss of the SDAT player at the end of 3.0 - which had been unsubtly hinted to be Shinji's only emotional crutch after Kaworu's death and his only reason to keep going/looping, the former would probably be the happier one, if only because of Kaworu's little promise at the end of 3.0, Asuka's improved mental state and her not letting Shinji escaping to his own reality again. The latter is most definitely the more bittersweet: even though Shinji himself promised to proceed toward a forever extending future, Kaworu seemed to have given up on a happy ending.

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* This makes a surprising amount of sense. Yui, at the end of EoE, did say that happiness can only be found when Shinji woke up from his dream, after all. The entire franchise can then be summed up as a series of mental time loops done by Shinji in order to find the way toward future/escape the dreams. The end of the TV series is the actual "ending", in which we can clearly see that Shinji was still stuck on the Black Moon when he seemingly received the applause of everyone else, as in, when he seemed to have gotten his wish granted. However, as EoE indicated, he was still unhappy with the ending, and his true wish was still not granted. The Adam and Eve plot he found himself with the broken doll Asuka still failed to satisfied him (Asuka's "Kimochi warui" - bad emotion, the strangling, which indicated that this "Adam" and "Eve"'s destructive relationship is still destructive, making them completely incompatible to each other and to the roles assigned, probably because they were, in essence, both Eves (Lilins), or at least, Lilith (Asuka, a particularly important clue), Lilin - child of Lilith) and Eve (Shinji), and Adam was M.I.A at that time), even though that was what he thought he wished for at the end of the TV series. Thus, Shinji inadvertently kicked start the first loop by wishing for something else, his other half, perhaps. If we see Instrumentality as a single mother's pregnancy (Rei's rejection of Gendo, the part of Adam inside Instrumentality was just the minimum contribution of an embryo), then his rejection of Instrumentality can be seen as an abortion because he refused to be a single mother/the new progenitor (probably Eve) to the neo-humans, neo-humans without Adam, just as Gendo rejected Shinji himself - his own child and the symbol of the future, in favour of yearning after his seemingly dead wife Yui - the past. If the lyrics of A cruel angel's thesis is intentional, then the key to the future would be for Shinji to "spread his wings"/accept his responsibility as the new progenitor, which didn't happen in EoE because that Shinji wished for the world to return to the CrapsackWorld it had been instead of becoming something better. This theory would also explain why Kaworu was the only character aside from Shinji to have change personality in every incarnation: he was Adam, so he was not a part of Lilith's Black Moon - the egg in which humanity is dreaming. While we definitely weren't and probably aren't going to be shown every loop ever, we can attempt to arrange the known loops in the franchise in chronological order: TV series => End of Evangelion => manga => Rebuild, or, alternatively, TV series => End of Evangelion => Rebuild => manga. Jury's still out on which order is the correct one. Backed by the loss of the SDAT player at the end of 3.0 - which had been unsubtly hinted to be Shinji's only emotional crutch after Kaworu's death and his only reason to keep going/looping, the former would probably be the happier one, if only because of Kaworu's little promise at the end of 3.0, Asuka's improved mental state and her not letting Shinji escaping to his own reality again. The latter is most definitely the more likely (Kaworu's whole process of falling in love (TV series) to gaining determination (Rebuild) to giving into despair (manga), the "beginning is the same as the end" quote, alluding that both the TV series and the manga have the name of Neon Genesis Evangelion, Shinji had an ipod - something from the future, instead of his old SDAT because the SDAT was lost in the previous loop, the repeat sign in the title of 3.0 + 1.0) the more bittersweet: even though Shinji himself seemed to have kept his memory intact this time and promised to proceed toward a forever extending future, future after boarding another train - a metaphor for another loop, Kaworu seemed to have given up on a happy ending.
ending for good, meaning that the end of 3.0 + 1.0 must be spectacularly bad even in comparison to all the other bad ends. If that's the case, then hopefully, now that Shinji had gained the key - his past memories and the courage to face the past, the final loop won't be too disastrous and will reach a happy ending for all involved somehow.

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