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For one thing, it's obvious that she possesses a SEED factor like Kira. For example, when she is contemplating the nature of war in episode 49 of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Gundam SEED]]'', you can see that her eyes have dialated, indicating that she has entered 'SEED mode'.
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For one thing, it's obvious that she possesses a SEED factor like Kira. For example, when she is contemplating the nature of war in episode 49 of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Gundam SEED]]'', you can see that her eyes have dialated, dilated, indicating that she has entered 'SEED mode'.
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Then the OVAs and the series' compilations films were released and what chamges happened? We got further proof that Durandal was behind several murder attempts and that he schemed to kill Kira Yamato. The ''Astray'' series went through the same road. Shinn also got a better ending as he is able to find an answer to what he can do with his life. Did this change the opinion from most of the viewers? ...oh boy, we are worse than Shinn.
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Then the OVAs [=OVAs=] and the series' compilations films were released and what chamges happened? We got further proof that Durandal was behind several murder attempts and that he schemed to kill Kira Yamato. The ''Astray'' series went through the same road. Shinn also got a better ending as he is able to find an answer to what he can do with his life. Did this change the opinion from most of the viewers? ...oh boy, we are worse than Shinn.
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* '''Confirmed,''' but Lacus one-ups Kira in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDFreedom'', when it was revealed that she’s an Accord, who are Super Coordinators with the ability for MindControl, and are a step above regular Coordinators. Kira, meanwhile, is a failed Accord. It’s unknown if Lacus was still born naturally, or in an artificial womb, though.
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In addition to being a Char Clone, Durandal is likely to be the reincarnation of Char. In general, he tried to redo the unfinished work in his own movie as Durandal.
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In addition to being a Char Clone, Durandal is likely to be the reincarnation of Char. In general, he tried to redo the unfinished work in his [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack own movie movie]] as Durandal.
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At some point Lacus and Fllay body hopped into Cagalli who needed to wait for a time when Rau was weak to put them back into there body and stomp Rau out. The problem was that Durendal had to alter the Destiny Plan to stop Rau from creating a giant war, using the tested and working method from mars he attempted to put the same system in place on Earth but left the option open for any company to refuse it, Scandinavia and Orb refused but Orb chose to react violently as Durendal grew more frustrated with Rau. Hence the final battle of the series and Jesus being a near invincible god. Now a lot of this needs proper placement since I forget events but the end result is that Lacus was Rau, Kira was a clone and Durendal was a tragic good guy.
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At some point Lacus and Fllay Flay body hopped into Cagalli who needed to wait for a time when Rau was weak to put them back into there body and stomp Rau out. The problem was that Durendal had to alter the Destiny Plan to stop Rau from creating a giant war, using the tested and working method from mars he attempted to put the same system in place on Earth but left the option open for any company to refuse it, Scandinavia and Orb refused but Orb chose to react violently as Durendal grew more frustrated with Rau. Hence the final battle of the series and Jesus being a near invincible god. Now a lot of this needs proper placement since I forget events but the end result is that Lacus was Rau, Kira was a clone and Durendal was a tragic good guy.
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* That would raise the question though: Who's the father?
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* That would raise the question though: Who's the father?
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* Alternatively, the Cagalli of Destiny is a [[MarvelUniverse Skrull.]]
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* Alternatively, the Cagalli of Destiny is a [[MarvelUniverse [[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Skrull.]]
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** Major problem with this theory, besides it now being in poor taste with Morosawa's death. And that's that, at the time of writing and working on Destiny, Fukuda and Morosawa were ''NOT'' married.
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[[WMG: The upcoming film would be about rebuilding/redeeming Shinn.]]
If ''Destiny'' completely broke Shinn down as a character, then the upcoming film would be about rebuilding/redeeming him, like what happened to Wufei at the end of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWingEndlessWaltz''; his story isn't over. It would be interesting to see what it would be like if Shinn was taken under Kira's wing, and the Shinn-Kira relationship could mirror Kamille-Amuro in ''Zeta''. Kira could relate to Shinn. As for Shinn's mobile suits, he would start with the Destiny Impulse, which is somewhere in between the Impulse and the Destiny in terms of power, and his upgrade would be the spiritual successor to the Destiny (Destiny Mark II, perhaps?), capable of transforming into a flight mode like the Wing Zero or Zeta Gundam, unless Athrun has first dibs on transformable mobile suits.
If ''Destiny'' completely broke Shinn down as a character, then the upcoming film would be about rebuilding/redeeming him, like what happened to Wufei at the end of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWingEndlessWaltz''; his story isn't over. It would be interesting to see what it would be like if Shinn was taken under Kira's wing, and the Shinn-Kira relationship could mirror Kamille-Amuro in ''Zeta''. Kira could relate to Shinn. As for Shinn's mobile suits, he would start with the Destiny Impulse, which is somewhere in between the Impulse and the Destiny in terms of power, and his upgrade would be the spiritual successor to the Destiny (Destiny Mark II, perhaps?), capable of transforming into a flight mode like the Wing Zero or Zeta Gundam, unless Athrun has first dibs on transformable mobile suits.
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[[WMG: Creator/KeithSilverstein will voice Durandal in the new dub]]
Durandal has the same voice as Char in Japanese, after all. Plus, Silverstein dropped a hint he may voice Durandal on Twitter, and he's the current voice of Char, so why wouldn't he be cast as one of the series' CharClone?
Durandal has the same voice as Char in Japanese, after all. Plus, Silverstein dropped a hint he may voice Durandal on Twitter, and he's the current voice of Char, so why wouldn't he be cast as one of the series' CharClone?
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*** [[TakeAThirdOption Or we could just go with]] [[BadassOldGuy Master]] [[CrazyAwesome Asia]] [[WarriorTherapist beating the crap out of them.]]
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*** [[TakeAThirdOption Or we could just go with]] [[BadassOldGuy Master]] [[CrazyAwesome [[CrazyIsCool Asia]] [[WarriorTherapist beating the crap out of them.]]
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* That's the thing: it's a SELF PARODY. It's not meant to be taken seriously; also, the same mission earlier had Shinn and co practically empty a bottle of hot sauce into Kira's food...which causes him to like Lacus even more, since he apparently likes spicy food. If anything, it's more likely that Kira either a), saw it as another thing about Lacus that contrasted with him (And opposites do attract), or b), he didn't want her to cry and said that just to cheer her up.
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[[WMG: This is also [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Decade's fault]]
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[[WMG: This is also [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Decade's fault]]fault.]]]]
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* That would raise the question though: Who's the father?
[[WMG: This is also [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Decade's fault]]
Originally, the story would have been more akin to a fusion of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterAttack'', with the Three Ships Alliance acting along the lines of Londo Bell instead of the AEUG, and hunting down Loyalists of Patrick Zala (who would be Neo-Zeon stand-ins), there would be a Haman Karn-esque figure leading the Zala loyalists, and Gilbert Durandel would have acted like a CCA-Char stand-in near the end instead of a Paptimus stand-in, first successfully enacting his Destiny plan with no opposition, then deciding that the Earth is corrupt and deciding to just raze the ground. However, due to Decade's interference early on, Gilbert Durandel got the idea to attack Kira and Lacus, and this lead to the plot we got instead.
[[WMG: This is also [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Decade's fault]]
Originally, the story would have been more akin to a fusion of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterAttack'', with the Three Ships Alliance acting along the lines of Londo Bell instead of the AEUG, and hunting down Loyalists of Patrick Zala (who would be Neo-Zeon stand-ins), there would be a Haman Karn-esque figure leading the Zala loyalists, and Gilbert Durandel would have acted like a CCA-Char stand-in near the end instead of a Paptimus stand-in, first successfully enacting his Destiny plan with no opposition, then deciding that the Earth is corrupt and deciding to just raze the ground. However, due to Decade's interference early on, Gilbert Durandel got the idea to attack Kira and Lacus, and this lead to the plot we got instead.
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* Several websites (notably, the Animesuki forums) make a reference to Lacus Dust, which explains why Kira became a JohnCena-esque GodModeSue in the later episodes of both SEED and SEED Destiny. It can also explain why both Andrew and Mu (and if we go outside of CE, [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Zechs]]) came back from the dead. I don't know when the Lacus Dust jokes began, but I think that Sunrise might have adopted the Lacus Dust concept and adapted it as GN Particles for 00.
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* Several websites (notably, the Animesuki forums) make a reference to Lacus Dust, which explains why Kira became a JohnCena-esque Wrestling/JohnCena-esque GodModeSue in the later episodes of both SEED and SEED Destiny. It can also explain why both Andrew and Mu (and if we go outside of CE, [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Zechs]]) came back from the dead. I don't know when the Lacus Dust jokes began, but I think that Sunrise might have adopted the Lacus Dust concept and adapted it as GN Particles for 00.
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[[WMG: Cagalli is pregnant during Gundam SEED Destiny.]]
It would explain why she seems to be a lot more emotional and prone to breaking down at the drop of a hat (the stress of being Orb's Chief Representative probably contributes to the severe mood swings). There's also the fact hat she just handed over the Akatsuki despite it being a gift from her father. She probably had a medical examination after being whacked around by Shinn and found out that she was pregnant. She basically stays on Earth to protect her child.
It would explain why she seems to be a lot more emotional and prone to breaking down at the drop of a hat (the stress of being Orb's Chief Representative probably contributes to the severe mood swings). There's also the fact hat she just handed over the Akatsuki despite it being a gift from her father. She probably had a medical examination after being whacked around by Shinn and found out that she was pregnant. She basically stays on Earth to protect her child.
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* [[FridgeBrilliance Goddamit]], Neo was a testbed for [[MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Full Frontal!]]
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[[WMG: Mu survived the events of SEED because he was a Newtype.]]
The fact that Mu is the 'equivalent' of a Newtype in the CE timeline has been well established, so it isn't too big of a stretch to believe that he can do most of the things a UC Newtype can. Given that exceptionally powerful UC Newtypes have been seen blocking shots from ''colony lasers'' before, and Haman Khan could shield herself to the point of blocking a direct hit from the ZZ Gundam's Hi-Mega Cannon (after it was enhanced, no less), it isn't unreasonable to imagine Mu subconsciously using the same shield to protect the Archangel from the Dominion's positron cannon. Given that Newtypes tend to exhibit their most absurd powers in times of extraordinary stress and personal loss, it'd make sense that even an 'untrained' Newtype like Mu would be able to use his powers to protect a ship filled with his closest friends. It would certainly explain how the attack inexplicably ''stops'' when it hits the Strike, rather than instantly vaporize it and continue on regardless. After all, Mu is a man known for making the impossible, possible. Hell, it would even explain how he manages to repeat the trick during Destiny - only this time his mobile suit is undamaged, at full power, and has armor capable of reflecting whatever energy waves make it past his shield.
The fact that Mu is the 'equivalent' of a Newtype in the CE timeline has been well established, so it isn't too big of a stretch to believe that he can do most of the things a UC Newtype can. Given that exceptionally powerful UC Newtypes have been seen blocking shots from ''colony lasers'' before, and Haman Khan could shield herself to the point of blocking a direct hit from the ZZ Gundam's Hi-Mega Cannon (after it was enhanced, no less), it isn't unreasonable to imagine Mu subconsciously using the same shield to protect the Archangel from the Dominion's positron cannon. Given that Newtypes tend to exhibit their most absurd powers in times of extraordinary stress and personal loss, it'd make sense that even an 'untrained' Newtype like Mu would be able to use his powers to protect a ship filled with his closest friends. It would certainly explain how the attack inexplicably ''stops'' when it hits the Strike, rather than instantly vaporize it and continue on regardless. After all, Mu is a man known for making the impossible, possible. Hell, it would even explain how he manages to repeat the trick during Destiny - only this time his mobile suit is undamaged, at full power, and has armor capable of reflecting whatever energy waves make it past his shield.
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[[WMG: Lacus falling in love with Kira is mask she put on and [[BecomingTheMask became]].]]
In a more benevolent version of what Flay did, Lacus acted as though she was in love with Kira because she saw everything he was going through and decided to show him all the love she could to help him, and gradually fell in love with him for real.
In a more benevolent version of what Flay did, Lacus acted as though she was in love with Kira because she saw everything he was going through and decided to show him all the love she could to help him, and gradually fell in love with him for real.
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[[WMG: Gundam Seed Destiny = Neon Genesis Evangelion?]]
* I've seen somewhere that ''Gundam 00'' was supposed to be a deconstruction of the Gundam franchise, at least in the first season. I've also read that Shinn was supposed to be a deconstruction of the traditional Gundam protagonist. Does that mean that ''GSD'' did the deconstruction first (before G00), much like how Evangelion deconstructed the Super Robot/mecha shows? Speaking of the connections between GSD and Evangelion, here's the relationships that I can think of:
** Shinn = Shinji Ikari and Asuka Langley Sohryu (the former's angstiness and the latter's hotheadedness)
** Rey = A gender-flipped Rei Ayanami
** Durandal = Gendo Ikari
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In conclusion, Logos is a sham, a fraud, a fantasy concocted by [[DarkMessiah Durandal]] in order to give the people of Earth something to turn their hatred against. It allows the Chairman to elminate all his rivals swiftly and efficently, all while continuing to appear to be an accepting [[TheMessiah Messiah]] figure.
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In conclusion, Logos is a sham, a fraud, a fantasy concocted by [[DarkMessiah Durandal]] in order to give the people of Earth something to turn their hatred against. It allows the Chairman to elminate all his rivals swiftly and efficently, all while continuing to appear to be an accepting [[TheMessiah [[MessianicArchetype Messiah]] figure.
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* Athrun and Cagalli: What Fukuda and Morosawa's marriage is currently (i.e., on the rocks), and Cagalli leaving Athrun could be a reference to the rumored (and never proven) affair between Fukuda and Cagalli's VA, NaomiShindo.
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[[WMG: The SuperRobotWars version of Destiny is the canon one. The anime was propaganda created by Kira to make him look better.]]
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Next series, Kira will get his hands on a Destroy Freedom Gundam or somesuch with [[Main/KillSat Satellite]] [[Main/AttackDrone DRAGOONs]], whose Satellite Cannons are tied to a limiter pendant carved from Evidence 01 by Andy and worn by Lacus. Eventually, however, he is brought down by Lowe Gear and his [[Main/SuperRobotWars Astray Powered Red Frame Sturmangriff]] (Jess Rabble is driving the mecha horse). Afterwards, George Glenn's ghost calls forth an armada of space whales to destroy the [=PLANTs=], deciding Coordinators really aren't worth all the Main/{{Wangst}}.
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Next series, Kira will get his hands on a Destroy Freedom Gundam or somesuch with [[Main/KillSat Satellite]] [[Main/AttackDrone DRAGOONs]], whose Satellite Cannons are tied to a limiter pendant carved from Evidence 01 by Andy and worn by Lacus. Eventually, however, he is brought down by Lowe Gear and his [[Main/SuperRobotWars [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars Astray Powered Red Frame Sturmangriff]] (Jess Rabble is driving the mecha horse). Afterwards, George Glenn's ghost calls forth an armada of space whales to destroy the [=PLANTs=], deciding Coordinators really aren't worth all the Main/{{Wangst}}.
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He regenerated into [[SuperRobotWars Ingram Prisken]]. They have the same hair.
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He regenerated into [[SuperRobotWars [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars Ingram Prisken]]. They have the same hair.
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** That's actually potentially likely. She's at least deceitful towards him. Early she repeats the official story (Athrun was always fighting for Zaft, and there was no TSA or near genocide at the end of SEED) but her talk with Talia reveals she knows what Athrun was really doing at the end of the last war.
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[[WMG: Rau Le Creuset didn't orchestrate the war instead he became the Gundam equivalent of Deadpool ]].
*If you look at it there's a significant period of time where we don't see any trace of Rau le Creuset, and it's because of this time gap that I developed this theory, Rau developed Newtype Powers, then had an Awakening that was so powerful he broke the fourth wall and was able to see hat he was in a TV show, using his newtype powers he was able to influence the writing so that he could at lest try to wipe out everything, Unfortunately it only worked halfway, resulting in his death. This is even supported by some of his dialogue in the last few episodes of SEED if you listen and take it as a character that became self aware.
*If you look at it there's a significant period of time where we don't see any trace of Rau le Creuset, and it's because of this time gap that I developed this theory, Rau developed Newtype Powers, then had an Awakening that was so powerful he broke the fourth wall and was able to see hat he was in a TV show, using his newtype powers he was able to influence the writing so that he could at lest try to wipe out everything, Unfortunately it only worked halfway, resulting in his death. This is even supported by some of his dialogue in the last few episodes of SEED if you listen and take it as a character that became self aware.
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[[WMG: The couples in ''Destiny'' are a reflection of Fukuda and Morosawa's marriage]]
Think about it for a moment:
*Kira and Lacus: What Morosawa wants her marriage to be like.
*Athrun and Cagalli: What Fukuda and Morosawa's marriage is currently (i.e., on the rocks)
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* This gets really funny/sad if you catch a little coincidence with the main three pilots: what other mecha anime is generally angsty, deals with PTSD, and contains a [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Shin, an Asuka, and a (in katakana) Rei?]] With names like that, the poor bastards were doomed from the start. Even better, Maaya Sakamoto went on to play another fiery female pilot with Zettai Ryouki for said show's {{Big Damn Movie}}.
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* This gets really funny/sad if you catch a little coincidence with the main three pilots: what other mecha anime is generally angsty, deals with PTSD, and contains a [[NeonGenesisEvangelion [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shin, an Asuka, and a (in katakana) Rei?]] With names like that, the poor bastards were doomed from the start. Even better, Maaya Sakamoto went on to play another fiery female pilot with Zettai Ryouki for said show's {{Big Damn Movie}}.
