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** A similar idea is cannon in 00 Gundam. Heavy exposure to GN particles transforms humans into Innovators.

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** This also explains the weaker newtypes seen in the first parts of the late UC era (F91); due to the era of peace, the general use of MS was at an all time low and the people of the time were affected, but with the resuming of MS hostilities, this ended up giving rise to the stronger newtypes of the era (Tobia and Usso)
*** To even go futher, Turn A where there hasn't been MS/minovsky particles for hundreds of years, there's not really a newtype to be found.
** A similar idea is cannon canon in 00 Gundam. Heavy exposure to GN particles transforms humans into Innovators.







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* In the original series, his main target was always Amuro, who was hard to kill due to a mix of the Gundam's sheer durability and later his impressive piloting skills and the one mook GM was dealt with very easily in comparison.
* There was also the factor that unlike the One Year war, there were Newtypes running around with similar piloting ability and newtype power equal or greater than Amuro.
* His own downplaying of his own position in Zeta limited him to a sharp degree; the Hyaku Shiki was good enough to deal with most foes, but it's lacking compared to the most advanced suits of the conflict. Come CCA he does indeed get himself a high end mobile suit, but Amuro uses the data Char gave him to have an even better suit made.



[[WMG: Char indirectly caused the series of Zeon Remnant uprisings that plagued the main UC era]]
All because he killed Kycillia in the final battle of the OYW and caused quite some confusion, resulting in an end that various Zeon hardliners refused to accept. Had she lived and been dealt with by federation officers, things would have ended in a fashion that would have limited the uprisings if not eliminated them. And then there's Char's reputation in Zeon, which was used by a few, even Char himself.




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* A few extra mobile suits can only do oh so much as Amuro and Co. were in no position to stop the solar ray attack that stopped the peace meeting.

[[WMG: General Revil was the main bastion of morality in the Federation]]
His death meant that he wouldn't be able to be a good influence on the people growing up right after the OYW and with a mix of less principled leaders and the generally hostile mentality things like his slaying spawned, things like the Titans were bound to happen. If he lived through the OYW, he would have the greatest impact against the extreme sentiments that spawned the Titans.


The notion that humans would evolve into Newtypes by moving into space is thoroughly
disputed, and even outright dismissed by Tomino. Besides this, we see quite a few Earth-born Newtypes. If one looks at ''[[Anime/AfterWarGundamX Gundam X]]'', we see Newtypes whose powers are triggered by near-death experiences, as well as [[spoiler:D.O.M.E. declaring that they are not evolved humans but rather mutants.]] This would also explain why people with abilities like mental communication (the Frost brothers) and healing powers (Queen Maria) are considered Newtypes even when they don't match up with the usual set of powers that a majority of Newtypes possess.

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The notion that humans would evolve into Newtypes by moving into space is thoroughly
thoroughly disputed, and even outright dismissed by Tomino. Besides this, we see quite a few Earth-born Newtypes. If one looks at ''[[Anime/AfterWarGundamX Gundam X]]'', we see Newtypes whose powers are triggered by near-death experiences, as well as [[spoiler:D.O.M.E. declaring that they are not evolved humans but rather mutants.]] This would also explain why people with abilities like mental communication (the Frost brothers) and healing powers (Queen Maria) are considered Newtypes even when they don't match up with the usual set of powers that a majority of Newtypes possess.




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* As noted below, jossed.




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*** Considering that Dozle had at least one mistress, not to mention that we never learn anything about Judau's parents, this is entirely possible. Although this would make it somewhat amusing that Haman is so focused on Mineva when someone she already loves in a romantic sense would be able to accomplish the same tasks she would need Mineva to do.



[[WMG: Char is the reason zeon lost.]]

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[[WMG: Char is the reason zeon Zeon lost.]]




[[WMG:Project v would've failed without Zeon's attack.]]

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\n[[WMG:Project v ** A contributing factor, yes, but not the only reason - there was so much infighting in Zeon that none of the factions helped each other out (for example, Ramba Ral wanted Rick Doms when he was trying to capture White Base, but M'Queve turned down his request; the Gelgoog, Char's preferred suit, wasn't adopted until it was too late to make a difference, something that if there was a clear chain of command, wouldn't have happened) - really, if Zeon hadn't attacked Project V, the Feds could've just put in the minimum amount of effort and Zeon would've collapsed under it's own weight.

[[WMG: Project V
would've failed without Zeon's attack.]]


Char is Gundam's counterpart the counterpart to the Red Baron not just in the colour of the vehicle and fame, but also in ''[[WroteTheBook writing the book on how you fight with said vehicle]]''. Thus, just like every fighter pilot of WorldWarII and beyond still uses all of Richtofen's tricks (and a few more due the invention of the guided missile), by the following conflicts Char had to deal with people who had read his book and could predict what he'd do.

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Char is Gundam's counterpart the counterpart to the Red Baron not just in the colour of the vehicle and fame, but also in ''[[WroteTheBook writing the book on how you fight with said vehicle]]''. Thus, just like every fighter pilot of WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and beyond still uses all of Richtofen's tricks (and a few more due the invention of the guided missile), by the following conflicts Char had to deal with people who had read his book and could predict what he'd do.



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'Cause I'm all about White Base, 'bout White Base.
* No Zaku!


Char is Gundam's counterpart the counterpart to the Red Baron not just in the colour of the vehicle and fame, but also in ''[[WroteTheBook writing the book on how you fight with said vehicle]]''. Thus, just like every fighter pilot of WorldWarII and beyond still uses all of Richtofen's tricks (and a few more due the invention of the guided missile), by the following conflicts Char had to deal with [[GenreSavvy people who had read his book and could predict what he'd do]].

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Char is Gundam's counterpart the counterpart to the Red Baron not just in the colour of the vehicle and fame, but also in ''[[WroteTheBook writing the book on how you fight with said vehicle]]''. Thus, just like every fighter pilot of WorldWarII and beyond still uses all of Richtofen's tricks (and a few more due the invention of the guided missile), by the following conflicts Char had to deal with [[GenreSavvy people who had read his book and could predict what he'd do]].
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** It was. Mass-produced units were deployed against White Base (Allowing Amuro to rake up a healthy number of kills there) and later participated in the Jaburo offensive. The problem was that Gouf was a ground-combat-based design and after Jaburo the Zeon retreated back into space.
** The other thing about the Gouf is that it was significantly more expensive to produce than a Zaku, so it was reserved for experienced pilots, such as Norris Packard and Ramba Ral.

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** * It was. Mass-produced units were deployed against White Base (Allowing Amuro to rake up a healthy number of kills there) and later participated in the Jaburo offensive. The problem was that Gouf was a ground-combat-based design and after Jaburo the Zeon retreated back into space.
** * The other thing about the Gouf is that it was significantly more expensive to produce than a Zaku, so it was reserved for experienced pilots, such as Norris Packard and Ramba Ral.
* There's also the fact that mobile suit design was progressing incredibly quickly at this point. It wasn't long before the Gouf was replaced in production by the Dom.


Remember Ryu, [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...

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Remember Ryu, [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka [[Creator/ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka [[Creator/ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...

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[[WMG:Jossed Theories]]
After ''Kunio Okawara's MS Collection'' revealed that the children were taken in by the Murasame Lab it was generally assumed, based on Gil's number and his role as test pilot of the Psycho Gundam's immediate predecessor that Millie had grown up to be Four Murasame, but according to ''Four's Story'' Four is a different war orphan and Millie is dead.


[[WMG:Miharu's little sister grows up to be [[ZetaGundam Four Murasame]].]]

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[[WMG:Miharu's little sister grows up to be [[ZetaGundam [[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Four Murasame]].]]



Remember Ryu, [[MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...

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Remember Ryu, [[MobileSuitGundam [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...



[[GundamSEEDDestiny This is no]] ShoutOut, boy!

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[[GundamSEEDDestiny [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny This is no]] ShoutOut, boy!



[[{{Gundam 00}} This is no Flag]], [[{{ShoutOut}} boy]]!

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[[{{Gundam 00}} [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 This is no Flag]], [[{{ShoutOut}} boy]]!


Remember Ryu, [[MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[GundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...

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Remember Ryu, [[MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[GundamMSIGLOO [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...


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----[[WMG: Char is the reason zeon lost.]]
Ace pilot or not Char actively sabotaged the Zeon war effort because of his grudge against the Zabi family.
*He lead Garma into a trap, depriving earth-side forces of their chief commander.
*He abandoned the battlefield following Lalah's death.
*Instead of targeting the battleship he seeks out Gundam.
*Kills the fleeing Kycillia who would've refused to give up.
It's pretty clear to this troper that the war failed becuse of Char's grudge.

[[WMG:Project v would've failed without Zeon's attack.]]
Pretty much what it says on the tin. The reason why though? without the Zeon attack who knows who would be piloting those Mobile suits. Certainly not Amuro and friends. I'd go as far as to say that White base would've been sunk on it's first sortie against the enemy.

[[WMG:If more of project V's MS had survived...]]
Gundam is the top of it's class for it's era right? well according to the wiki there RX-78-2 was to be deployed with three of it's prototypes RX-78-1, and they were only slightly less powerful versions that used all the same technology.
If Amuro had been backed up by some extra Gundams a lot of good people on the federation side would probably be alive. Those good people might be enough to make sure The titans never form or that the incident of Stardust memory never happens. I hardly think it could be worse for White Base to have had more suits to use.

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** The alien invasion has already come and was defeated, partly by Grendizer but mostly by an horde of [[http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Jicco-class Jicco-class missile frigates]] built during the Mazinsaga and did most of the job in the final battle. That's why nobody took HumongousMecha seriously anymore: conventional weapons had reached parity with them, and without MinovskyParticle they had the advantage of being simpler and cheaper to build.

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** The alien invasion has already come and was defeated, partly by Grendizer ''Anime/UFORoboGrendizer'' but mostly by an horde of [[http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Jicco-class Jicco-class missile frigates]] built during the Mazinsaga and did most of the job in the final battle. That's why nobody took HumongousMecha seriously anymore: conventional weapons had reached parity with them, and without MinovskyParticle they had the advantage of being simpler and cheaper to build.

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[[WMG: The reason Char doesn't live up the hype]]
Char is Gundam's counterpart the counterpart to the Red Baron not just in the colour of the vehicle and fame, but also in ''[[WroteTheBook writing the book on how you fight with said vehicle]]''. Thus, just like every fighter pilot of WorldWarII and beyond still uses all of Richtofen's tricks (and a few more due the invention of the guided missile), by the following conflicts Char had to deal with [[GenreSavvy people who had read his book and could predict what he'd do]].



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** That or Dozle awakened some insanely powerful newtype abilities (on top of being really scary when angry), though his example gets points for scaring the guy a mobile suit when all he had was a machine gun.


* Note: Despite their telekinetic powers, the Frost Brothers are actually NOT considered Newtypes in-universe, because one distinguishing feature of AW Newtypes is the ability to use the Flash System, which the Frost Brothers cannot, as implicitly stated in the series.

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* Note: *Note: Despite their telekinetic telepathic powers, the Frost Brothers are actually NOT considered Newtypes in-universe, because one distinguishing feature of AW Newtypes is the ability to use the Flash System, which the Frost Brothers cannot, as implicitly stated in the series.

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