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[[WMG: The series will involve Moana and her tribe exploring different islands]]
Paraphrasing an above guess, it will expand on different Polynesian legends and cultures. Maui will play the role of guiding them when need be. Rogues such as the kakamora and Tamatoa will also show up as antagonists along with new villains.
Paraphrasing an above guess, it will expand on different Polynesian legends and cultures. Maui will play the role of guiding them when need be. Rogues such as the kakamora and Tamatoa will also show up as antagonists along with new villains.
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He might appear to be just a goofy-looking rooster, but either he'll save the day in the end, will be revealed to be an animal MacGuffin, or will [[TheDogWasTheMastermind secretly be a villain]] (considering that his voice actor, Creator/AlanTudyk, has voiced comedic antagonists in [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph no]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}} less]] [[WesternAnimation/BigHero6 than]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}} four]] Disney movies, the latter would also be an ActorAllusion).
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He might appear to be just a goofy-looking rooster, but either he'll save the day in the end, will be revealed to be an animal MacGuffin, or will [[TheDogWasTheMastermind secretly be a villain]] (considering that his voice actor, Creator/AlanTudyk, has voiced comedic antagonists in [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph no]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}} [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 less]] [[WesternAnimation/BigHero6 than]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}} four]] Disney movies, the latter would also be an ActorAllusion).
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It seems to be a recent trend in Disney, with the villain - aside from [[HiddenVillain keeping their identity a secret for most of the film]] - not dying and instead getting arrested or subdued in some way. The last actual villain death was back in 2012, with ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph''; after that, in ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'', Prince Hans was non-fatally subdued and sent back to his own country under arrest, in ''WesternAnimation/BigHero6'', Yokai/Callaghan was also simply arrested, and in ''WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}}'', [[spoiler:Bellwether also happens to be simply subdued and arrested, and her reaction comes off as nothing more than irritation.]] So ''Moana'' presents a new opportunity to have the bad guy, whoever they may be, be defeated or killed more traditionally as opposed to non-fatal incarceration. The setting and story, from the little that's been glimpsed so far, wouldn't make sense if the villain was simply arrested, as the story seems more a sort of "grand journey" and the bulk of the setting seems to take place away from civilized society.
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It seems to be a recent trend in Disney, with the villain - aside from [[HiddenVillain keeping their identity a secret for most of the film]] - not dying and instead getting arrested or subdued in some way. The last actual villain death was back in 2012, with ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph''; after that, in ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'', ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'', Prince Hans was non-fatally subdued and sent back to his own country under arrest, in ''WesternAnimation/BigHero6'', Yokai/Callaghan was also simply arrested, and in ''WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}}'', [[spoiler:Bellwether also happens to be simply subdued and arrested, and her reaction comes off as nothing more than irritation.]] So ''Moana'' presents a new opportunity to have the bad guy, whoever they may be, be defeated or killed more traditionally as opposed to non-fatal incarceration. The setting and story, from the little that's been glimpsed so far, wouldn't make sense if the villain was simply arrested, as the story seems more a sort of "grand journey" and the bulk of the setting seems to take place away from civilized society.
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* Wouldn't count on it since [[Disney.{{Tangled}} I See The Light]] didn't garnish that much attention (relative to Frozen, adjusted for age).
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* Wouldn't count on it since [[Disney.{{Tangled}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} I See The Light]] didn't garnish that much attention (relative to Frozen, adjusted for age).
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* Jossed. While the soundtrack in general has been praised, there's not a single song that stands out in popularity like ''Let It Go'' did for Disney/{{Frozen}}.
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* Jossed. While the soundtrack in general has been praised, there's not a single song that stands out in popularity like ''Let It Go'' did for Disney/{{Frozen}}.
WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}.
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* I hope not. Disney already did a "White people are evil" theme in ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'', and [[{{Anvilicious}} we saw how that went]].
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* I hope not. Disney already did a "White people are evil" theme in ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Pocahontas}}'', and [[{{Anvilicious}} we saw how that went]].
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[[WMG: There will be a ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' reference]]
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[[WMG: There will be a ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'' reference]]
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[[WMG: The villain will be comedic, snarky, and on par with [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Hades]] or [[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove Yzma]].]]
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[[WMG: The villain will be comedic, snarky, and on par with [[Disney/{{Hercules}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} Hades]] or [[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove [[WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewGroove Yzma]].]]
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** So, like [[Disney/TreasurePlanet John Silver]]?
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** So, like [[Disney/TreasurePlanet [[WesternAnimation/TreasurePlanet John Silver]]?
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She will have a HairTriggerTemper and will be prone to "flaring up" when angry (just think of [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Hades]]). She won't be evil, though. She'll either be in possession of some MacGuffin or of information crucial to Moana's quest.
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She will have a HairTriggerTemper and will be prone to "flaring up" when angry (just think of [[Disney/{{Hercules}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} Hades]]). She won't be evil, though. She'll either be in possession of some MacGuffin or of information crucial to Moana's quest.
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[[WMG:Tamatoa will take a lot of cues from [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ursula]].]]
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[[WMG:Tamatoa will take a lot of cues from [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ursula]].]]
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--> '''Tamatoa:''' [[spoiler:''[Helplessly lying on his back unable to get up, and [[BreakingTheFourthWall directly adressing the audience]]]'' If my name was [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Sebastian]] and I had a cool Jamaican accent, you'd ''totally'' help me...]]
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--> '''Tamatoa:''' [[spoiler:''[Helplessly lying on his back unable to get up, and [[BreakingTheFourthWall directly adressing the audience]]]'' If my name was [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Sebastian]] and I had a cool Jamaican accent, you'd ''totally'' help me...]]
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In a movie based on Polynesian mythology, which is home to plenty of gods and monsters, I find it hard to believe that the ''main antagonist'' would just be a GiantEnemyCrab. Especially with that [[http://www.thefandom.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/IMG_5297-1024x576.png fire goddess]] around. Plus, something about his design just doesn't seem especially villain-y. Perhaps he'll be more like [[Disney/{{Tangled}} Maximus]] or [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Jumba]], in that he'll start out with an antagonistic role only to have a change of heart partway through.
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In a movie based on Polynesian mythology, which is home to plenty of gods and monsters, I find it hard to believe that the ''main antagonist'' would just be a GiantEnemyCrab. Especially with that [[http://www.thefandom.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/IMG_5297-1024x576.png fire goddess]] around. Plus, something about his design just doesn't seem especially villain-y. Perhaps he'll be more like [[Disney/{{Tangled}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Maximus]] or [[Disney/LiloAndStitch [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch Jumba]], in that he'll start out with an antagonistic role only to have a change of heart partway through.
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[[WMG: Moana is [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Lilo and Nani's ancestor.]]]]
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[[WMG: Moana is [[Disney/LiloAndStitch [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch Lilo and Nani's ancestor.]]]]
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[[WMG: ''Moana'' is a SpiritualSuccessor to ''Disney/{{Tarzan}}''.]]
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[[WMG: ''Moana'' is a SpiritualSuccessor to ''Disney/{{Tarzan}}''.''WesternAnimation/{{Tarzan}}''.]]
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[[WMG: Maui as well will be [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Lilo and Nani's ancestor.]]]]
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[[WMG: Maui as well will be [[Disney/LiloAndStitch [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch Lilo and Nani's ancestor.]]]]
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[[WMG: This film takes place in the same universe as ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' and ''Disney/{{Frozen}}''.]]
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[[WMG: This film takes place in the same universe as ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}}'' and ''Disney/{{Frozen}}''.''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}''.]]
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[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Sebastian]] will have cameos. And did Tamatoa really eat his grandma?
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It seems to be a recent trend in Disney, with the villain - aside from [[HiddenVillain keeping their identity a secret for most of the film]] - not dying and instead getting arrested or subdued in some way. The last actual villain death was back in 2012, with ''Disney/WreckItRalph''; after that, in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', Prince Hans was non-fatally subdued and sent back to his own country under arrest, in ''Disney/BigHero6'', Yokai/Callaghan was also simply arrested, and in ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'', [[spoiler: Bellwether also happens to be simply subdued and arrested, and her reaction comes off as nothing more than irritation.]] So ''Moana'' presents a new opportunity to have the bad guy, whoever they may be, be defeated or killed more traditionally as opposed to non-fatal incarceration. The setting and story, from the little that's been glimpsed so far, wouldn't make sense if the villain was simply arrested, as the story seems more a sort of "grand journey" and the bulk of the setting seems to take place away from civilized society.
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It seems to be a recent trend in Disney, with the villain - aside from [[HiddenVillain keeping their identity a secret for most of the film]] - not dying and instead getting arrested or subdued in some way. The last actual villain death was back in 2012, with ''Disney/WreckItRalph''; ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph''; after that, in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'', Prince Hans was non-fatally subdued and sent back to his own country under arrest, in ''Disney/BigHero6'', ''WesternAnimation/BigHero6'', Yokai/Callaghan was also simply arrested, and in ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'', [[spoiler: Bellwether ''WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}}'', [[spoiler:Bellwether also happens to be simply subdued and arrested, and her reaction comes off as nothing more than irritation.]] So ''Moana'' presents a new opportunity to have the bad guy, whoever they may be, be defeated or killed more traditionally as opposed to non-fatal incarceration. The setting and story, from the little that's been glimpsed so far, wouldn't make sense if the villain was simply arrested, as the story seems more a sort of "grand journey" and the bulk of the setting seems to take place away from civilized society.
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He might appear to be just a goofy-looking rooster, but either he'll save the day in the end, will be revealed to be an animal MacGuffin, or will [[TheDogWasTheMastermind secretly be a villain]] (considering that his voice actor, Creator/AlanTudyk, has voiced comedic antagonists in [[Disney/WreckItRalph no]] [[Disney/{{Frozen}} less]] [[Disney/BigHero6 than]] [[Disney/{{Zootopia}} four]] Disney movies, the latter would also be an ActorAllusion).
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He might appear to be just a goofy-looking rooster, but either he'll save the day in the end, will be revealed to be an animal MacGuffin, or will [[TheDogWasTheMastermind secretly be a villain]] (considering that his voice actor, Creator/AlanTudyk, has voiced comedic antagonists in [[Disney/WreckItRalph [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph no]] [[Disney/{{Frozen}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}} less]] [[Disney/BigHero6 [[WesternAnimation/BigHero6 than]] [[Disney/{{Zootopia}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}} four]] Disney movies, the latter would also be an ActorAllusion).
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* Crazy mass guessing, just because. Mr. Krabs is basically a demi-god in SpongeBob...who's to say he didn't take his money obsession WAY too far before discovering Krabby Patties? Tamatoa is obsessed with 'shiny' things...Krabs is obsessed with money. Both are (more or less) willing to kill for what's basically gold. Both are REALLY old. Both have long-term rivalries with another....Tamatoa found a better way to get shiny things. Being a businessman and selling cheap food. No, it doesn't make sense, but this is what WMG is about.
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* Crazy mass guessing, just because. Mr. Krabs is basically a demi-god in SpongeBob...Spongebob...who's to say he didn't take his money obsession WAY too far before discovering Krabby Patties? Tamatoa is obsessed with 'shiny' things...Krabs is obsessed with money. Both are (more or less) willing to kill for what's basically gold. Both are REALLY old. Both have long-term rivalries with another....Tamatoa found a better way to get shiny things. Being a businessman and selling cheap food. Tamatoa even says: "I just love free food"...which is VERY close to what Mr. Krabs says in Band Geeks "When do we get the free food?". No, it doesn't make sense, but this is what WMG is about.
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[[WMG: Tamatoa is [[WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants Mr. Krabs]]]].
* Crazy mass guessing, just because. Mr. Krabs is basically a demi-god in SpongeBob...who's to say he didn't take his money obsession WAY too far before discovering Krabby Patties? Tamatoa is obsessed with 'shiny' things...Krabs is obsessed with money. Both are (more or less) willing to kill for what's basically gold. Both are REALLY old. Both have long-term rivalries with another....Tamatoa found a better way to get shiny things. Being a businessman and selling cheap food. No, it doesn't make sense, but this is what WMG is about.
* Crazy mass guessing, just because. Mr. Krabs is basically a demi-god in SpongeBob...who's to say he didn't take his money obsession WAY too far before discovering Krabby Patties? Tamatoa is obsessed with 'shiny' things...Krabs is obsessed with money. Both are (more or less) willing to kill for what's basically gold. Both are REALLY old. Both have long-term rivalries with another....Tamatoa found a better way to get shiny things. Being a businessman and selling cheap food. No, it doesn't make sense, but this is what WMG is about.
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*** Sea-turtle lifespans/generations are nowhere NEAR connected to "how modern is this society." [[CaptainObvious You can use an iPhone and still be strongly connected to your culture.]]
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*** Sea-turtle lifespans/generations are nowhere NEAR connected to "how modern is this society." [[CaptainObvious You can use an iPhone and still be strongly connected to your culture.]]
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* You can google how Maui will die (in mythology)...[[VaginaDentata it's not a thing showable in any Disney film...]]
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[[WMG: Moana is a [[TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful Princess]].]]
* Definitely a Seeker Calling, and would probably belong to the Court of Swords. Holy Shield explains how she is capable of taking blows that should have seriously injured her without any visible sign, and Celestial Grace could explain how she pulls off some of her acrobatic and athletic feats.
* Definitely a Seeker Calling, and would probably belong to the Court of Swords. Holy Shield explains how she is capable of taking blows that should have seriously injured her without any visible sign, and Celestial Grace could explain how she pulls off some of her acrobatic and athletic feats.
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[[WMG:If the sequel really is about a Latina princess, it won't be a direct sequel.]]
While [[TruthInTelevision there actually is evidence]] that Polynesia and South America had made contact in the past, it seems a bit much to have Moana and her people to go to South America and come across a Latina princess. Instead, the sequel will take place ''long'' after ''Moana'' and the only thing that will indicate the it's a sequel to ''Moana'' is the mythology matching that of the sequel's mythology and/or the events of the movie being alluded to. For example, maybe it'll be mentioned how the daughter of a chief saved the goddess by returning her heart, or a shapeshifting demigod returns...
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