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*** Basically confirmed: It's very heavily implied, if not confirmed in the light novel finale that Seto has known about his loved one's burning life spans for even longer than Kano and Ayano have known.
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*** Basically confirmed: Confirmed: It's very heavily implied, if not confirmed in the light novel finale that Seto has known about his loved one's burning expiring life spans for even longer than Kano and Ayano have known.
known, as well as being the one most determined to break out of the time loop.
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*** Basically confirmed: It's very heavily implied, if not confirmed in the light novel finale that Seto has known about his loved one's burning life spans for even longer than Kano and Ayano have known.
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With the goal of creating a timeline [[GoldenEnding where all of the characters, including Ayano and Hiyori,]] survive. The ending to Mekakucity Actors is the true finale of the franchise.
[[WMG: Seto always knew about The Snake Of Clearing Eyes.]]
Despite his cheerful personality, it's always been implied he's known more.
In Shounen Brave's PV, there is a quick scene in which Seto reads Marry's mind, or rather, her memories.
We know that that Seto can read minds, feelings, and even memories. This extends to even memories the subject themself hasn't remembered, including previous timelines.
The memory he sees is the corpses of some of the Dan, including him.
This would explain why he was reluctant against letting his family meet her as stated in the 5th novel. He knew that it wouldn't be a good idea.
On to the next part of the truth, Kenjirou's possession. In the 8th LN, it's stated that he heard the "voice" of clearing. And that he found out they would all die. This could be referring to the present day, but considering there's an emphasis on voice..
It's shown in the 6th LN that after Ayaka's death, he still couldn't completely control his snake.
What if he accidentally found out about Clearing eyes by reading a mind?
The 6th manga volume should also be debunked, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw.
[[WMG:The terrorists were part of [[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes' plan]]]]
[[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes took control over Kenjirou and raised funds over many illegal sources. Afterwards, Kenjirou wanted to group the Mekakushi Dan's members together and eliminate them all at once. So the logical solution was to hire some terrorists and attact the attention of the Mekakushi Dan. This is evident in the anime movie, where most of them die in the terrorist attack and Marry resets the timeline again.]]
[[WMG: Seto always knew about The Snake Of Clearing Eyes.]]
Despite his cheerful personality, it's always been implied he's known more.
In Shounen Brave's PV, there is a quick scene in which Seto reads Marry's mind, or rather, her memories.
We know that that Seto can read minds, feelings, and even memories. This extends to even memories the subject themself hasn't remembered, including previous timelines.
The memory he sees is the corpses of some of the Dan, including him.
This would explain why he was reluctant against letting his family meet her as stated in the 5th novel. He knew that it wouldn't be a good idea.
On to the next part of the truth, Kenjirou's possession. In the 8th LN, it's stated that he heard the "voice" of clearing. And that he found out they would all die. This could be referring to the present day, but considering there's an emphasis on voice..
It's shown in the 6th LN that after Ayaka's death, he still couldn't completely control his snake.
What if he accidentally found out about Clearing eyes by reading a mind?
The 6th manga volume should also be debunked, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw.
[[WMG:The terrorists were part of [[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes' plan]]]]
[[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes took control over Kenjirou and raised funds over many illegal sources. Afterwards, Kenjirou wanted to group the Mekakushi Dan's members together and eliminate them all at once. So the logical solution was to hire some terrorists and attact the attention of the Mekakushi Dan. This is evident in the anime movie, where most of them die in the terrorist attack and Marry resets the timeline again.]]
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With the goal of creating a timeline [[GoldenEnding where all of the characters, including Ayano and Hiyori,]] survive. The ending to Mekakucity Actors is the true finale of the franchise.
[[WMG: Seto always knew about The Snake Of Clearing Eyes.]]
Despite his cheerful personality, it's always been implied he's known more.
In Shounen Brave's PV, there is a quick scene in which Seto reads Marry's mind, or rather, her memories.
We know that that Seto can read minds, feelings, and even memories. This extends to even memories the subject themself hasn't remembered, including previous timelines.
The memory he sees is the corpses of some of the Dan, including him.
This would explain why he was reluctant against letting his family meet her as stated in the 5th novel. He knew that it wouldn't be a good idea.
On to the next part of the truth, Kenjirou's possession. In the 8th LN, it's stated that he heard the "voice" of clearing. And that he found out they would all die. This could be referring to the present day, but considering there's an emphasis on voice..
It's shown in the 6th LN that after Ayaka's death, he still couldn't completely control his snake.
What if he accidentally found out about Clearing eyes by reading a mind?
The 6th manga volume should also be debunked, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw.
[[WMG:The terrorists were part of [[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes' plan]]]]
[[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes took control over Kenjirou and raised funds over many illegal sources. Afterwards, Kenjirou wanted to group the Mekakushi Dan's members together and eliminate them all at once. So the logical solution was to hire some terrorists and attact the attention of the Mekakushi Dan. This is evident in the anime movie, where most of them die in the terrorist attack and Marry resets the timeline again.]]franchise.
[[WMG: Seto always knew about The Snake Of Clearing Eyes.]]
Despite his cheerful personality, it's always been implied he's known more.
In Shounen Brave's PV, there is a quick scene in which Seto reads Marry's mind, or rather, her memories.
We know that that Seto can read minds, feelings, and even memories. This extends to even memories the subject themself hasn't remembered, including previous timelines.
The memory he sees is the corpses of some of the Dan, including him.
This would explain why he was reluctant against letting his family meet her as stated in the 5th novel. He knew that it wouldn't be a good idea.
On to the next part of the truth, Kenjirou's possession. In the 8th LN, it's stated that he heard the "voice" of clearing. And that he found out they would all die. This could be referring to the present day, but considering there's an emphasis on voice..
It's shown in the 6th LN that after Ayaka's death, he still couldn't completely control his snake.
What if he accidentally found out about Clearing eyes by reading a mind?
The 6th manga volume should also be debunked, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw.
[[WMG:The terrorists were part of [[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes' plan]]]]
[[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes took control over Kenjirou and raised funds over many illegal sources. Afterwards, Kenjirou wanted to group the Mekakushi Dan's members together and eliminate them all at once. So the logical solution was to hire some terrorists and attact the attention of the Mekakushi Dan. This is evident in the anime movie, where most of them die in the terrorist attack and Marry resets the timeline again.]]
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** However, Marry doesn't seem to remember previous loops (at least at first) if the anime is anything to go by; she refers to Konoha as a 'friend', but surely if she remembered what happens when he's around, she wouldn't even talk to him, let along befriend him. I suggest that Marry only regains her memories of past routes when the inevitable happens, Kuroha emerges and everyone dies - activating her dormant snake (the Combining Eyes/The Queen Snake) and causing her to reset everything.
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** However, Marry doesn't seem to remember previous loops (at least at first) if the anime is anything to go by; she refers to Konoha as a 'friend', but surely if she remembered what happens when he's around, she wouldn't even talk to him, let along alone befriend him. I suggest that Marry only regains her memories of past routes when the inevitable happens, Kuroha emerges and everyone dies - activating her dormant snake (the Combining Eyes/The Queen Snake) and causing her to reset everything.
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This is basically the idea that Seto knew about Clearing eyes long before Kano or even Ayano knew.
One thing that supports this is that in Shounen Brave's PV, there is a quick scene in which Seto reads Marry's mind, or rather, her memories.
One thing that supports this is that in Shounen Brave's PV, there is a quick scene in which Seto reads Marry's mind, or rather, her memories.
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On to the next part of the truth, Kenjirou's possession. In the 8th LN, it's stated that he heard the "voice" of clearing. And that he found out they would all die. This could be referring to the present day, but considering there's an emphasis on "voice" could mean something.
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On to the next part of the truth, Kenjirou's possession. In the 8th LN, it's stated that he heard the "voice" of clearing. And that he found out they would all die. This could be referring to the present day, but considering there's an emphasis on "voice" could mean something.
voice..
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What if he accidentally found out about Clearing eyes by reading a mind? It's not completely impossible.
I also should debunk the 6th manga volume, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw. If this is true, it would explain a lot.
I also should debunk the 6th manga volume, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw. If this is true, it would explain a lot.
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What if he accidentally found out about Clearing eyes by reading a mind? It's not completely impossible.
I also should debunk themind?
The 6th mangavolume, volume should also be debunked, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw. If this is true, it would explain a lot.\n
I also should debunk the
The 6th manga
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[[spoiler:This is basically the idea that Seto knew about Clearing eyes long before Kano or even Ayano knew.
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I also should debunk the 6th manga volume, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw. If this is true, it would explain a lot.]]
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I also should debunk the 6th manga volume, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw. If this is true, it would explain a lot.]]
lot.
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[[spoiler: This is basically the idea that Seto knew about Clearing eyes long before Kano or even Ayano knew.
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I also should debunk the 6th manga volume, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw. If this is true, it would explain a lot.
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I also should debunk the 6th manga volume, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw. If this is true, it would explain a lot.
lot.]]
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[[WMG: Seto always knew about The Snake Of Clearing Eyes.]]
[[spoiler: This is basically the idea that Seto knew about Clearing eyes long before Kano or even Ayano knew.
One thing that supports this is that in Shounen Brave's PV, there is a quick scene in which Seto reads Marry's mind, or rather, her memories.
We know that that Seto can read minds, feelings, and even memories. This extends to even memories the subject themself hasn't remembered, including previous timelines.
The memory he sees is the corpses of some of the Dan, including him.
This would explain why he was reluctant against letting his family meet her as stated in the 5th novel. He knew that it wouldn't be a good idea.
On to the next part of the truth, Kenjirou's possession. In the 8th LN, it's stated that he heard the "voice" of clearing. And that he found out they would all die. This could be referring to the present day, but considering there's an emphasis on "voice" could mean something.
It's shown in the 6th LN that after Ayaka's death, he still couldn't completely control his snake.
What if he accidentally found out about Clearing eyes by reading a mind? It's not completely impossible.
I also should debunk the 6th manga volume, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw. If this is true, it would explain a lot.
[[spoiler: This is basically the idea that Seto knew about Clearing eyes long before Kano or even Ayano knew.
One thing that supports this is that in Shounen Brave's PV, there is a quick scene in which Seto reads Marry's mind, or rather, her memories.
We know that that Seto can read minds, feelings, and even memories. This extends to even memories the subject themself hasn't remembered, including previous timelines.
The memory he sees is the corpses of some of the Dan, including him.
This would explain why he was reluctant against letting his family meet her as stated in the 5th novel. He knew that it wouldn't be a good idea.
On to the next part of the truth, Kenjirou's possession. In the 8th LN, it's stated that he heard the "voice" of clearing. And that he found out they would all die. This could be referring to the present day, but considering there's an emphasis on "voice" could mean something.
It's shown in the 6th LN that after Ayaka's death, he still couldn't completely control his snake.
What if he accidentally found out about Clearing eyes by reading a mind? It's not completely impossible.
I also should debunk the 6th manga volume, where he clearly does not see those memories. The 6th manga takes place in manga route 2, which is one of, if not the earliest known route. He didn't have any memories to read in that scenario! He also immediately lets his family meet her, so his reluctance in other routes had to be because of the memories he saw. If this is true, it would explain a lot.
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** However, Marry doesn't seem to remember previous loops (at least at first) if the anime is anything to go by; she refers to Konoha as a 'friend', but surely if she remembered [[KillEmAll what happens when he's around]], she wouldn't even talk to him, let along befriend him. I suggest that Marry only regains her memories of past routes when the inevitable happens, Kuroha emerges and everyone dies - activating her dormant snake (the Combining Eyes/The Queen Snake) and causing her to reset everything.
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** However, Marry doesn't seem to remember previous loops (at least at first) if the anime is anything to go by; she refers to Konoha as a 'friend', but surely if she remembered [[KillEmAll what happens when he's around]], around, she wouldn't even talk to him, let along befriend him. I suggest that Marry only regains her memories of past routes when the inevitable happens, Kuroha emerges and everyone dies - activating her dormant snake (the Combining Eyes/The Queen Snake) and causing her to reset everything.
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With the goal of creating a timeline [[GoldenEnding where all of the characters, including Ayano and Hiyori,]] survive. The ending to Mekakucity Actors is the true finale of the franchise.
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With the goal of creating a timeline [[GoldenEnding where all of the characters, including Ayano and Hiyori,]] survive. The ending to Mekakucity Actors is the true finale of the franchise.franchise.
[[WMG:The terrorists were part of [[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes' plan]]]]
[[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes took control over Kenjirou and raised funds over many illegal sources. Afterwards, Kenjirou wanted to group the Mekakushi Dan's members together and eliminate them all at once. So the logical solution was to hire some terrorists and attact the attention of the Mekakushi Dan. This is evident in the anime movie, where most of them die in the terrorist attack and Marry resets the timeline again.]]
[[WMG:The terrorists were part of [[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes' plan]]]]
[[spoiler:Snake of Clearing Eyes took control over Kenjirou and raised funds over many illegal sources. Afterwards, Kenjirou wanted to group the Mekakushi Dan's members together and eliminate them all at once. So the logical solution was to hire some terrorists and attact the attention of the Mekakushi Dan. This is evident in the anime movie, where most of them die in the terrorist attack and Marry resets the timeline again.]]