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[[WMG: This franchise will cross over with the DCEU, and is part of that multiverse]]
In an adaptation of Three Jokers, Jared Leto, Joaquin Phoenix and one other Joker (either Nicholson or someone new) will costar.

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[[WMG: This franchise film will cross over with the DCEU, and is part another dimension of that multiverse]]
In an adaptation of Three Jokers, ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers, Jared Leto, Joaquin Phoenix and one other Joker (either Nicholson or someone new) will costar.


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In an adaptation of Three Jokers, Jared Leto, this film's Joker and one other Joker (either Nicholson or someone new) will costar.


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In an adaptation of Three Jokers, Jared Leto, this film's Joker Joaquin Phoenix and one other Joker (either Nicholson or someone new) will costar.

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[[WMG: This franchise will cross over with the DCEU, and is part of that multiverse]]
In an adaptation of Three Jokers, Jared Leto, this film's Joker and one other Joker (either Nicholson or someone new) will costar.



In the scene were Arthur and Bruce meet, Bruce already seems to be a miserable, lonely boy... contrasting with practically all other versions of the story where Bruce is normal until the murder of his parents darkens his mood forever. This may mean that living in Thomas Wayne's household is already miserable to him. So when a rioter kills Thomas and Martha, the murder is not such a game changer that it inspires him to become a nutjob vigilante. He thus grows up a much happier, well adjusted man. Besides, this universe is much more realistic than any other DC universe, so becoming a superhero dressed as a flying mammal is out of the question (see for example how this Joker is not particularly charismatic or smart).

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In the scene were Arthur and Bruce meet, Bruce already seems to be a miserable, lonely boy... contrasting with practically all other versions of the story where Bruce is normal until the murder of his parents darkens his mood forever. This may mean that living in Thomas Wayne's household is already a miserable nightmare to him. him, what with Thomas implied to be a bastard in this film. So when a rioter kills Thomas and Martha, he relieves Bruce from the living hell his asshole parents were inflicting upon him. Sure, he's traumatized, but since the Waynes already pulled that little number before on Bruce, the murder is not such a game changer that it inspires him to become a nutjob vigilante.vigilante and it rather arrives as sort of a relief. He thus grows up a much happier, well adjusted man. Besides, this universe is much more realistic than any other DC universe, so becoming a superhero dressed as a flying mammal is out of the question (see for example how this Joker is not particularly charismatic or smart).
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In the scene were Arthur and Bruce meet, Bruce already seems to be a miserable, lonely boy... contrasting with practically all other versions of the story where Bruce is normal until the murder of his parents darkens his mood forever. This means that living in Thomas Wayne's household is already a nightmare to him, what with Thomas implied to be a bastard in this film. When a rioter kills Thomas and Martha, he relieves Bruce from the living hell his asshole parents were inflicting upon him. Sure, he's traumatized, but since the Waynes already pulled that little number on Bruce before, the murder is not such a game changer that it may inspire him to become a nutjob vigilante and in fact comes as kind of a relief. He thus grows up a much happier, well adjusted man. Besides, this universe is much more realistic than any other DC universe, so becoming a superhero dressed as a flying mammal is out of the question (see for example how this Joker is not particularly charismatic or smart).

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In the scene were Arthur and Bruce meet, Bruce already seems to be a miserable, lonely boy... contrasting with practically all other versions of the story where Bruce is normal until the murder of his parents darkens his mood forever. This means may mean that living in Thomas Wayne's household is already a nightmare miserable to him, what with Thomas implied to be a bastard in this film. When him. So when a rioter kills Thomas and Martha, he relieves Bruce from the living hell his asshole parents were inflicting upon him. Sure, he's traumatized, but since the Waynes already pulled that little number on Bruce before, the murder is not such a game changer that it may inspire inspires him to become a nutjob vigilante and in fact comes as kind of a relief.vigilante. He thus grows up a much happier, well adjusted man. Besides, this universe is much more realistic than any other DC universe, so becoming a superhero dressed as a flying mammal is out of the question (see for example how this Joker is not particularly charismatic or smart).


* At some point shortly after the events of the film, the riot Arthur inspired will die down, and the rest of the city's elite will work to improve Gotham's state with increased charitable donations (much like how Alfred mentioned people responding to the Waynes' deaths in ''Film/BatmanBegins''). As a result, while Arthur eventually either died in Arkham, was executed, or just became too old to do anything physically active, shortly after Bruce returns to Gotham and goes 'public' as Batman, someone of a similar age will be inspired by the tales of the old riots to take up Arthur's look, but take it to the next level to become the truly twisted, remorseless Joker we all love to hate (as opposed to Arthur, who could almost be sympathetic and is shown to have a degree of standards when he spares someone who was never cruel to him).

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* At some point shortly after the events of the film, the riot Arthur inspired will die down, and the rest of the city's elite will work to improve Gotham's state with increased charitable donations (much like how Alfred mentioned people responding to the Waynes' deaths in ''Film/BatmanBegins''). As a result, while Arthur eventually either died in Arkham, was executed, or just became too old to do anything physically active, shortly after Bruce returns to Gotham and goes 'public' as Batman, someone of a similar age will be inspired by the tales of the old riots to take up Arthur's look, but take it to the next level to become the truly twisted, remorseless Joker we all love to hate LoveToHate (as opposed to Arthur, who could almost be sympathetic and is shown to have a degree of standards when he spares someone who was never cruel to him).

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[[WMG: Alternatively, Bruce Wayne will grow up to be Batman, with mostly the same methods as the comics, except he will tolerate lethal force against irredeemable supervillains so long as he's NOT the one using said lethal force against irredeemable supervillains.]]
By allowing Commissioner Gordon to use lethal force against supervillains. In other words, Gordon is the soldier, while Batman is the peacekeeper.


** Geez, and also take into consideration that ''there are'' interesting Dc Comics supervillains outside of Batman's RogueGallery. There are people who could fill up a film easily such as Brainiac, General Zod, Manchester Black, Mr. Mxyzptlk, the Ultrahumanite, Vandal Savage, Parallax, Gorilla Grodd, Maxwell Lord, Giganta, Black Adam, Doctor Light, Circe, ... Also notice that the ''Joker'' film really bent the traditional Joker out of shape to do this movie. By this standard, Luthor or any other antagonist could be given an unorthodox background as well to make an interesting standalone film.

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** Geez, and also take into consideration that ''there are'' interesting Dc Comics supervillains outside of Batman's RogueGallery.RoguesGallery. There are people who could fill up a film easily such as Brainiac, General Zod, Manchester Black, Mr. Mxyzptlk, the Ultrahumanite, Vandal Savage, Parallax, Gorilla Grodd, Maxwell Lord, Giganta, Black Adam, Doctor Light, Circe, ... Also notice that the ''Joker'' film really bent the traditional Joker out of shape to do this movie. By this standard, Luthor or any other antagonist could be given an unorthodox background as well to make an interesting standalone film.



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** Geez, and also take into consideration that ''there are'' interesting Dc Comics supervillains outside of Batman's RogueGallery. There are people who could fill up a film easily such as Brainiac, General Zod, Manchester Black, Mr. Mxyzptlk, the Ultrahumanite, Vandal Savage, Parallax, Gorilla Grodd, Maxwell Lord, Giganta, Black Adam, Doctor Light, Circe, ... Also notice that the ''Joker'' film really bent the traditional Joker out of shape to do this movie. By this standard, Luthor or any other antagonist could be given an unorthodox background as well to make an interesting standalone film.

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[[WMG: In this version of the story Bruce Wayne doesn't grow up to become Batman.]]
In the scene were Arthur and Bruce meet, Bruce already seems to be a miserable, lonely boy... contrasting with practically all other versions of the story where Bruce is normal until the murder of his parents darkens his mood forever. This means that living in Thomas Wayne's household is already a nightmare to him, what with Thomas implied to be a bastard in this film. When a rioter kills Thomas and Martha, he relieves Bruce from the living hell his asshole parents were inflicting upon him. Sure, he's traumatized, but since the Waynes already pulled that little number on Bruce before, the murder is not such a game changer that it may inspire him to become a nutjob vigilante and in fact comes as kind of a relief. He thus grows up a much happier, well adjusted man. Besides, this universe is much more realistic than any other DC universe, so becoming a superhero dressed as a flying mammal is out of the question (see for example how this Joker is not particularly charismatic or smart).


[[WMG: In this version of the story Bruce Wayne doesn't grow up to become Batman.]]
In the scene were Arthur and Bruce meet, Bruce already seems to be a miserable, lonely boy... contrasting with practically all other versions of the story where Bruce is normal until the murder of his parents darkens his mood forever. This means that living in Thomas Wayne's household is already a nightmare to him, what with Thomas implied to be a bastard in this film. When a rioter kills Thomas and Martha, he relieves Bruce from the living hell his asshole parents were inflicting upon him. Sure, he's traumatized, but since the Waynes already pulled that little number on Bruce before, the murder is not such a game changer that it may inspire him to become a nutjob vigilante and in fact comes as kind of a relief. He thus grows up a much happier, well adjusted man. Besides, this universe is much more realistic than any other DC universe, so becoming a superhero dressed as a flying mammal is out of the question (see for example how this Joker is not particularly charismatic or smart).

[[WMG: Alternatively, this version of Bruce Wayne will grow up to be Batman, but with a twist in terms of methods.]]

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[[WMG: In this version of the story Bruce Wayne doesn't grow up to become Batman.]]
In the scene were Arthur and Bruce meet, Bruce already seems to be a miserable, lonely boy... contrasting with practically all other versions of the story where Bruce is normal until the murder of his parents darkens his mood forever.
This means that living in Thomas Wayne's household is already a nightmare to him, what with Thomas implied to be a bastard in this film. When a rioter kills Thomas and Martha, he relieves Bruce from the living hell his asshole parents were inflicting upon him. Sure, he's traumatized, but since the Waynes already pulled that little number on Bruce before, the murder is not such a game changer that it may inspire him to become a nutjob vigilante and in fact comes as kind of a relief. He thus grows up a much happier, well adjusted man. Besides, this universe is much more realistic than any other DC universe, so becoming a superhero dressed as a flying mammal is out of the question (see for example how this Joker is not particularly charismatic or smart).

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version of Bruce Wayne will grow up to be Batman, but with a twist in terms of methods.]]


In the scene were Arthur and Bruce meet, Bruce already seems to be a miserable, lonely boy. This means that living in Thomas Wayne's household is already a nightmare to him, what with Thomas implied to be a bastard in this film. When a rioter kills Thomas and Martha, he relieves Bruce from the living hell his asshole parents were inflicting upon him. Sure, he's traumatized, but since the Waynes already pulled that little number on Bruce before, the murder is not such a game changer that it may inspire him to become a nutjob vigilante and in fact comes as kind of a relief. He thus grows up a much happier, well adjusted man. Besides, this universe is much more realistic than any other DC universe, so becoming a superhero dressed as a flying mammal is out of the question (see for example how this Joker is not particularly charismatic or smart).

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In the scene were Arthur and Bruce meet, Bruce already seems to be a miserable, lonely boy.boy... contrasting with practically all other versions of the story where Bruce is normal until the murder of his parents darkens his mood forever. This means that living in Thomas Wayne's household is already a nightmare to him, what with Thomas implied to be a bastard in this film. When a rioter kills Thomas and Martha, he relieves Bruce from the living hell his asshole parents were inflicting upon him. Sure, he's traumatized, but since the Waynes already pulled that little number on Bruce before, the murder is not such a game changer that it may inspire him to become a nutjob vigilante and in fact comes as kind of a relief. He thus grows up a much happier, well adjusted man. Besides, this universe is much more realistic than any other DC universe, so becoming a superhero dressed as a flying mammal is out of the question (see for example how this Joker is not particularly charismatic or smart).

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In the scene were Arthur and Bruce meet, Bruce already seems to be a miserable, lonely boy. This means that living in Thomas Wayne's household is already a nightmare to him, what with Thomas implied to be a bastard in this film. When a rioter kills Thomas and Martha, he relieves Bruce from the living hell his asshole parents were inflicting upon him. Sure, he's traumatized, but since the Waynes already pulled that little number on Bruce before, the murder is not such a game changer that it may inspire him to become a nutjob vigilante and in fact comes as kind of a relief. He thus grows up a much happier, well adjusted man. Besides, this universe is much more realistic than any other DC universe, so becoming a superhero dressed as a flying mammal is out of the question (see for example how this Joker is not particularly charismatic or smart).


In the scene were Arthur and Bruce meet, Bruce already seems to be a miserable, lonely boy. This means that living in Thomas Wayne's household is already a nightmare to him, what with Thomas implied to be a bastard in this film. When a rioter kills Thomas and Martha, he relieves Bruce from the living hell his asshole parents were inflicting upon him. Sure, he's traumatized, but since the Waynes already pulled that little number on Bruce before, the murder is not such a game changer that it may inspire him to become a nutjob vigilante and in fact it comes as kind of a relief. He thus grows up a much happier man. Besides, this universe is much more realistic than any other DC universe, so becoming a superhero dressed as a flying mammal is out of the question (see for example how this Joker is not particularly charismatic or smart).

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