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[[AWizardDidIt Scarlet Witch had one of her Meltdowns]] that rewrote reality and lead to the timeline where ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' was the origin of the Franchise/XMen, Reality reverted back to normal sort of and Rhodey ended up with a new look.

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[[AWizardDidIt Scarlet Witch had one of her Meltdowns]] that rewrote reality and lead to the timeline where ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' was the origin of the Franchise/XMen, ComicBook/XMen, Reality reverted back to normal sort of and Rhodey ended up with a new look.
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Pre-ComicBook/CivilWar Cap is already dead. [[HumanPopsicle Bucky]] is discovered by S.H.I.E.L.D. in their investigations of Vanko's laboratories and allies ([[WhathappenedToTheMouse the same investigation where one of the Avengers adopts his bird]]), and in finding out that his mentor has been dead for decades (possibly at or shortly after the end of WWII, possibly [[WMG/IronMan twenty years ago after living a long, fulfilling life and having a brilliant yet impulsive son]]) takes up the Shield. The Avengers' Initiative was based on an idea the original Captain had that he was unable to carry out before his death, mostly because Nick Fury was really the only other available superhero of the time.

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Pre-ComicBook/CivilWar Pre-''ComicBook/{{Civil War|2006}}'' Cap is already dead. [[HumanPopsicle Bucky]] is discovered by S.H.I.E.L.D. in their investigations of Vanko's laboratories and allies ([[WhathappenedToTheMouse the same investigation where one of the Avengers adopts his bird]]), and in finding out that his mentor has been dead for decades (possibly at or shortly after the end of WWII, possibly [[WMG/IronMan twenty years ago after living a long, fulfilling life and having a brilliant yet impulsive son]]) takes up the Shield. The Avengers' Initiative was based on an idea the original Captain had that he was unable to carry out before his death, mostly because Nick Fury was really the only other available superhero of the time.



* Tony will have returned to being Iron Man full time after Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar and has to balance this with the new restriction that the Sokovia Accords enforces while coping with his recent actions in universe.

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* Tony will have returned to being Iron Man full time after Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' and has to balance this with the new restriction that the Sokovia Accords enforces while coping with his recent actions in universe.

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It just needs a bigger gun. While the movie does play up Hammer's inability to match Tony Stark, it seems like too much of a stretch to assume that the "Ex-Wife" was never actually tested, as testing would have revealed if the shell really was as worthless as what was shown on screen (as opposed to saying they just constructed it and assumed any simulations were the same as actual results). The reason it failed utterly is that the launcher built into the ComicBook/WarMachine suit wasn't big enough and didn't have the proper fire power to make the shell effective. Put it in an actual cannon or a proper launcher and it will be just as devastating as advertised.
* Maybe it can only destroy bunkers. Ivan is not a bunker
** In point of fact, real life grenade launcher shells won't detonate until they're past a set distance. If the Ex-Wife is ''really'' as powerful as Hammer says it is, it's probably similar in that it doesn't arm itself until it's a safe distance away from whoever fired it.
*** That's actually a really good point. After hearing the DescriptionPorn Hammer laid out for the Ex-Wife, you'd figure that Rhodey would know better than to try to use it at '''point blank range''', Iron Man suit or not.
*** Even then, it's a ''Bunker Buster'' of some sort. And Bunker Busters get ''into'' the bunker via brute kinetic force, and only exploding ''after'' it's already inside the bunker. Even if it didn't blow up, a proper bunker buster ought to go ''through'' Ivan's suit rather than bouncing off.

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It just needs a bigger gun. range. While the movie does play up Hammer's inability to match Tony Stark, it seems like too much of a stretch to assume that the "Ex-Wife" was never actually tested, as testing would have revealed if the shell really was as worthless as what was shown on screen (as implied(as opposed to saying they just constructed it and assumed any simulations were the same as actual results). The reason it failed utterly is that the launcher built into the ComicBook/WarMachine suit wasn't big enough and didn't have the proper fire power to make the shell effective. Put launcher, Rhodey, fired it in an actual cannon or a proper launcher and it will be just as devastating as advertised.
* Maybe it can only destroy bunkers. Ivan is not a bunker
** In point of fact, real
from close range. Real life grenade launcher shells bunker busting missiles won't detonate until they're past a set distance. If the Ex-Wife is ''really'' as powerful as Hammer says it is, it's probably similar in that it doesn't arm itself until it's a safe distance away from whoever fired it.
*** * That's actually a really good point. After hearing the DescriptionPorn Hammer laid out for the Ex-Wife, you'd figure that Rhodey would know better than to try to use it at '''point blank range''', Iron Man suit or not.
*** Even then, it's a ''Bunker Buster'' of some sort. And Bunker Busters get ''into'' the bunker via brute kinetic force, and only exploding ''after'' it's already inside the bunker. Even if it didn't blow up, a proper bunker buster ought to go ''through'' Ivan's suit rather than bouncing off.
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*** Jossed. When Tony travels back to the year he was born in ''Endgame'', Howard mentions his wife being pregnant.
*** No, cloning actually works by Impregnating a female with an existing nucleus.

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*** Jossed. When Tony travels back to the year he was born in ''Endgame'', Howard mentions his wife being pregnant.
*** No, cloning actually works by Impregnating
pregnant. But that may or may not be a female with an existing nucleus.
clone.
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* Jossed.

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* Jossed. He never appears or is mentioned.

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* Jossed. He never appears or is mentioned.
mentioned in Iron Man 3 directly, but an Iron Man 3 sequel short about the Mandarin being kidnapped by Fu Manchu, does feature Justin Hammer and his boyfriend.



* Jossed. She got her powers from HYDRA experiments with the Mind Stone and HYDRA didn't get the Mind Stone until after ''The Avengers''.

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* Jossed. She got her powers from HYDRA experiments with the Mind Stone and HYDRA didn't get the Mind Stone until after ''The Avengers''.



* Jossed. They are never shown interacting again before Natasha's death.

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* Jossed. They are never shown interacting again onscreen before Natasha's death.



* Possibly jossed. It seems the tech predates the Chitauri invasion. It probably really is derived from FFF.

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* Possibly jossed. It seems the tech predates the Chitauri invasion. It probably really is derived said to be alien magic, but it still could be from FFF.
an ancient Chitauri techno-sorcerer.



* Jossed with Tony's death in ''Avengers: Endgame''.

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* Jossed with Tony's death in ''Avengers: Endgame''.
It didn't.
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** This WMG is Jossed by ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', as the Jarvis AI is downloaded into an android - turns out he is ComicBook/TheVision, making a EarlyBirdCameo.

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** This WMG is Jossed by In ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', as the Jarvis AI "AI" is downloaded into an android - turns out he is ComicBook/TheVision, making a EarlyBirdCameo.
ComicBook/TheVision.
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*** ...No. Batman's mind is working way too well for him to be suffering from PTSD. Also, he keeps his cool under gunfire, which someone with PTSD related to his parents being shot wouldn't be able to do. Bruce Wayne is managing his stress through meditation, regular exercise, ass-kicking, and volunteer work.
---> Batman is as Psycho as the monsters he hunts, it's why he dresses as a bat, and why he's so obsessed about Gotham being 'his' turf even at the cost of the people he protects.
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****No, cloning actually works by Impregnating a female with an existing nucleus.
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** Possibly {{Jossed}} by ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk''. In that movie, it's revealed what happened to the Weapon Plus program (the name appears on a canister), but Stark Industries may still have been involved...

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** Possibly {{Jossed}} by ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk''.''Film/{{The Incredible Hulk|2008}}''. In that movie, it's revealed what happened to the Weapon Plus program (the name appears on a canister), but Stark Industries may still have been involved...



* Yes, but that would mean that in The Incredible Hulk, the Abomination managed to go crazy in New York without bringing in the Fantastic Four, Spider-man, Daredevil, or any local X-men. Also, that would mean Willie Lumpkin somehow got gamma poisoning in Milwaukee and is still able to pick up women in California.

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* Yes, but that would mean that in The ''The Incredible Hulk, Hulk'', the Abomination managed to go crazy in New York without bringing in the Fantastic Four, Spider-man, Daredevil, or any local X-men. Also, that would mean Willie Lumpkin somehow got gamma poisoning in Milwaukee and is still able to pick up women in California.
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[[WMG: Hammer tried to fake his death in prison the same way he extracted Vanko... and failed terribly.]]
It turns out that it's really hard for a small skinny person to knock someone else unconscious. Hammer ended up dying in an explosion, and the double ended up stealing his identity.

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[[WMG: Why we never see Hammer again.]]
Hammer tried to fake his death in break himself out of prison using a body double, the same way he extracted Vanko... and failed terribly.]]
It turns out that it's really hard for a small skinny person to knock someone else unconscious. Hammer ended up dying in an explosion, and the
as Vanko. The double ended up killing him and stealing his identity.
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** As for anything related to the Mandarin,[[spoiler: he ended up becoming the antagonist and father of Shang-Chi]]
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[[WMG: Raza was trying to overthrow Wenwu.]]
As [[Film/ShangChiAndTheLegendOfTheTenRings Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings]] showed, the real leader of the Ten Rings was Xu Wenwu, and Raza was just the leader of the Afghanistan cell.
However, unlike the myth that shrouded their leader; Raza found out the truth about Wenwu but deemed himself more leader material. So when he found the remains of the Mark 1 suit and asked Stane to mass produce it, it wasn't just for the sake of their deal; it was also to give Raza a strong enough weapon to kill Wenwu and take the Ten Rings organization for himself.
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[[WMG: Hammer tried to fake his death in prison the same way he extracted Vanko... and failed terribly.]]
It turns out that it's really hard for a small skinny person to knock someone else unconscious. Hammer ended up dying in an explosion, and the double ended up stealing his identity.
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** Though that doesn't preclude the possibility that Stane was involved somehow.

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** Though that doesn't preclude the possibility that Stane was involved somehow.
somehow (perhaps he was the one who tipped them off as to where they were at that time).
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The Cinematic Universe has proven they're willing to go along with the more fantastical elements of the Marvel universe, and Mandarin has a connection to him in the comics, so it's possible that he will appear in the film, perhaps serving as a BiggerBad to Mandarin, who doesn't appear to be as much of a fighter in this film. Since a big fight scene at the end between the hero and villain is necessary, it won't be Mandarin that Tony fights, but rather Fin Fang Foom. ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodenames may or may not be in effect though, regarding his name as "Fin Fang Foom" DOES sound a bit too hokey for the Cinematic Universe. He may only be referred to as "The Dragon" or maybe even "The Makluan", after his planet of origin. It'll be even more awesome if they manage to keep his role in the film a secret, and out of the trailers...or at least the first wave.

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The Cinematic Universe has proven they're willing to go along with the more fantastical elements of the Marvel universe, and Mandarin has a connection to him in the comics, so it's possible that he will appear in the film, perhaps serving as a BiggerBad to Mandarin, who doesn't appear to be as much of a fighter in this film. Since a big fight scene at the end between the hero and villain is necessary, it won't be Mandarin that Tony fights, but rather Fin Fang Foom. ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodenames may or may not be in effect though, regarding his name as "Fin Fang Foom" DOES sound a bit too hokey for the Cinematic Universe. He may only be referred to as "The Dragon" or maybe even "The Makluan", after his planet of origin. It'll be even more awesome if they manage to keep his role in the film a secret, and out of the trailers...or at least the first wave.
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*** ''Too'' impulsive? OCD manifests in different ways for different, or even the same people. Being compelled to stick screws up your nose [[Discworld/ThiefOfTime is not the opposite of]] being compelled to arrange them all in the proper drawers. It's just a different, more socially-acceptable target.

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*** ''Too'' impulsive? OCD manifests in different ways for different, or even the same people. Being compelled to stick screws up your nose [[Discworld/ThiefOfTime [[Literature/ThiefOfTime is not the opposite of]] being compelled to arrange them all in the proper drawers. It's just a different, more socially-acceptable target.
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** Though that doesn't preclude the possibility that Stane was involved somehow.




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* According to ''Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2'', he's a Watcher.




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* Jossed.




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*** Jossed. When Tony travels back to the year he was born in ''Endgame'', Howard mentions his wife being pregnant.




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* Jossed. He never appears or is mentioned.




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* According to WordOfStPaul, it was Peter Parker.




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* Jossed. She got her powers from HYDRA experiments with the Mind Stone and HYDRA didn't get the Mind Stone until after ''The Avengers''.




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* Jossed. They are never shown interacting again before Natasha's death.




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* Jossed with Tony's death in ''Avengers: Endgame''.




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* The likelihood of an Iron Man 4 is pretty low given Tony's death in ''Endgame''.

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%%[[WMG:An idea for ''Iron Man 4'', featuring Iron Man 2020 and ComicBook/DeathsHead]]
%%* Iron Man 2020 armor
%%* Dr. Evelyn Necker and ComicBook/DeathsHead
%%* War Machine and Rescue
%%* Adam Warlock

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%%[[WMG:An [[WMG:An idea for ''Iron Man 4'', featuring Iron Man 2020 and ComicBook/DeathsHead]]
%%* * Iron Man 2020 armor
%%* * Dr. Evelyn Necker and ComicBook/DeathsHead
%%* * War Machine and Rescue
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Warlock

[[WMG: The ideas tied to the ''Iron Man'' franchise will be continued in a spin-off series following Riri Williams as Ironheart or Toni Ho as Iron Patriot II]]
* Rhodey, in either case, would be TheMentor to Riri or Toni.
* The villain would be the real, honest to goodness Mandarin.
* The Mandarin's son will be a major character and take heavy influence from Gene Khan from WesternAnimation/IronManArmoredAdventures.
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[[WMG:Tony Stark became a [[KingdomHearts Heartless]].]]

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[[WMG:Tony Stark became a [[KingdomHearts [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Heartless]].]]
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* [[CrowningMomentOfFunny I could hardly stop laughing]].

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* [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments I could hardly stop laughing]].
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** [[spoiler: Looks like she'll become Rescue in ''Film/Avengers4'']].

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** [[spoiler: Looks like she'll become Rescue in ''Film/Avengers4'']].
''Film/AvengersEndgame'']].
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** [[spoiler: Looks like she'll become Rescue in ''Film/Avengers4'']].




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** Considering just ''how'' filthy rich Stark has been established, even if there was any legal issues, he'd probably just buy the rights to the song ASAP.



While Howard was a grown man at the time, Kyubey saw great poetential in him; He's connected to all the MCU avengers except Bruce Banner and stands at the head of the cutting of military R&D. This would give him a great karmic destiny which could be transformed into a great deal of energy. Thus, Kyubey decided to make an exception. He waited for Howard's time moment of greatest vulnerability and appeared when Howard was looking for Steve Rogers in the Artic.

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While Howard was a grown man at the time, Kyubey saw great poetential potential in him; He's connected to all the MCU avengers except Bruce Banner and stands at the head of the cutting of military R&D. This would give him a great karmic destiny which could be transformed into a great deal of energy. Thus, Kyubey decided to make an exception. He waited for Howard's time moment of greatest vulnerability and appeared when Howard was looking for Steve Rogers in the Artic.

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