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Carnivorous dinos like Momma Dino, Rudy and ''Guanlong'''s are clearly sapient (the former two show their sapience clearly, while the latter ones show theirs subtly, by utilizing the bizarre geography of the Plates of Woe to trap and kill their prey), Cretaceous takes sadistic glee in going after Manny, body language and facial expressions of other dinosaurs living in Lost World shows that they are somewhat sapient, while Gavin and his children in fifth movie are clearly ''speaking'' and are able to communicate with Buck verbally. This means that dinosaurs and other reptiles from Mesozoic era have their own separate language, older and different than language spoken by Cenozoic animals, similar to how Sumerian language is older than Latin language.

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Carnivorous dinos like Momma Dino, Rudy and ''Guanlong'''s are clearly sapient (the former two show their sapience clearly, while the latter ones show theirs subtly, by utilizing the bizarre geography of the Plates of Woe to trap and kill their prey), Cretaceous takes sadistic glee in going after Manny, body language and facial expressions of other dinosaurs living in Lost World shows that they are somewhat sapient, while Gavin and his children in fifth movie are clearly ''speaking'' and are able to communicate with Buck verbally. This means that dinosaurs and other reptiles from Mesozoic era have their own separate language, older and different than language spoken by Cenozoic animals, similar to how Sumerian language (the oldest language in the world) is older than Latin language.
language (another ancient language that is younger than Sumerian language, ''but'' still ancient than, let's say, modern English).

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[[WMG: The mama dinosaur in Ice Age 3 is not a T-Rex.]]

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[[WMG: The mama dinosaur in Ice ''Ice Age 3 3'' is not a T-Rex.]]



[[WMG: The two frozen sea reptiles from Ice Age 2 are [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Flotsam and Jetsam]] and are immortal.]]

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[[WMG: The two frozen sea reptiles from Ice ''Ice Age 2 2'' are [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Flotsam and Jetsam]] and are immortal.]]



Trailers show a deadpan snarker

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* Trailers show her being a deadpan snarkersnarker.



[[WMG: Ice Age 2 was a reboot, not a sequel]]
That explains how much more different it was from Ice Age 1, like the light tone and absence of humankind.

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[[WMG: Ice ''Ice Age 2 2'' was a reboot, not a sequel]]
That explains how much more different it was from Ice ''Ice Age 1, 1'', like the light tone and absence of humankind.



And not in the " different subspecies" way. More like the "sexual dimorphism" way. The only other sabers we've seen in the series are male, so we know for sure what a male saber normally looks like, but not whats normal for a female, seeing as Shira's the only one in the franchise so far.

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And not in the " different "different subspecies" way. More like the "sexual dimorphism" way. The only other sabers we've seen in the series are male, so we know for sure what a male saber normally looks like, but not whats normal for a female, seeing as Shira's the only one in the franchise so far.



In order to fit with the post Ice Age 1 world.

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In order to fit with the post Ice ''Ice Age 1 1'' world.



This could explain why Roshan hasn't come back, and why humans have never been seen or mentioned after Ice Age. It may also be a reason why most of the animals were convinced that mammoths were going extinct during The Meltdown- they had already seen humans, and other species like the Dodos, disappear, and therefore knew from experience what extinction really looked like. That would have added to Manny's depression during the earlier scenes of the movie- coming to terms with the fact that Roshan was, most likely, dead. Then, when Manny first met Ellie, he was not only overjoyed to learn that he wasn't the last mammoth, but he figured that if his species was not completely extinct, there could also be a chance that Roshan was still alive. However, after The Meltdown, it was still common belief or knowledge amongst the animals that humans were extinct. Now, Diego, Sid and Manny still hope that somehow Roshan is alive, but have tried to forget about him as they know that he has probably died.

In Dawn of the Dinosaurs and Continental Drift, Manny acts as a {{Helicopter Parent|s}} who won't let Peaches go out places alone or grow up, because he let Roshan do just that, and then Roshan's whole species died out before Manny could ever see him again. It wasn't ''just'' because Manny lost his first son. Also in the third movie, Sid reveals himself to be very lonely, and adopts the three dinosaur eggs. Both of these elements of the plot resulted from Sid's grief and guilt over losing and not being able to protect Roshan, and thinking that he would never see the human baby he rescued again. When Sid can no longer be with his "kids", he realises that you cannot protect children forever, and believes that Roshan may be somewhere out there still, and if he is, he can fend for himself. This could be an explanation for why Sid is more optimistic than Diego and Manny- he has more faith than them that Roshan is alive. He also believes that his being an HonouraryUncle to Peaches is his third chance to try and successfully be involved in the raising of a child to adulthood. Sid begins to recover from the loss of the human baby.

Diego didn't seem to have any interest in females of his own species until Continental Drift, because he was too busy wondering what really happened to "Pinky". His fear of water in The Meltdown might of stemmed from a seeing a human drown (as Roshan's mother Nadia did- this solves the FridgeLogic of Diego having a fear of water in the second movie, but not the first one), or hearing a rumour that that's how humans were wiped out. Alternatively, the cause of the humans' extinction could have been the flood at the end of The Meltdown- there were no humans on the boat. In the third movie, another, unmentioned motivation of Diego's leaving the herd might have been to try and find Roshan and prove that he wasn't dead. When he inevitably decides to stay with the herd, he realises that his best friends have just had a daughter, and that they need his support, so he accepts the presumed fact that humans no longer exist, and that emotionally opens him up to meeting and becoming close to a love interest- Shira.

Towards the end of Continental Drift, the Herd have finally, well and truly, gotten over Roshan's assumed death. Sid now has Granny, a family member he needs to take care of, Diego is with Shira, and Peaches is growing up, whether Manny likes it or not. One last point to note: the series' AnthropomorphicShift may be due to the Ice Age Universe turning out opposite to RealLife after the ice age of roughly ten thousand years ago- humans die out and animals rise, develop a global society and technology, and conquer the world. Or, it could be the same as real life in that respect- Roshan could be a ''Neanderthal'' (a real extinct species of human), and somehow the Ice Age animals simply never come into contact with ''Homo sapiens'' (our species).

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This could explain why Roshan hasn't come back, and why humans have never been seen or mentioned after Ice Age. ''Ice Age''. It may also be a reason why most of the animals were convinced that mammoths were going extinct during The Meltdown- ''The Meltdown'' - they had already seen humans, and other species like the Dodos, disappear, and therefore knew from experience what extinction really looked like. That would have added to Manny's depression during the earlier scenes of the movie- movie - coming to terms with the fact that Roshan was, most likely, dead. Then, when Manny first met Ellie, he was not only overjoyed to learn that he wasn't the last mammoth, but he figured that if his species was not completely extinct, there could also be a chance that Roshan was still alive. However, after The Meltdown, ''The Meltdown'', it was still common belief or knowledge amongst the animals that humans were extinct. Now, Diego, Sid and Manny still hope that somehow Roshan is alive, but have tried to forget about him as they know that he has probably died.

In Dawn ''Dawn of the Dinosaurs Dinosaurs'' and Continental Drift, ''Continental Drift'', Manny acts as a {{Helicopter Parent|s}} who won't let Peaches go out places alone or grow up, because he let Roshan do just that, and then Roshan's whole species died out before Manny could ever see him again. It wasn't ''just'' because Manny lost his first son. Also in the third movie, Sid reveals himself to be very lonely, and adopts the three dinosaur eggs. Both of these elements of the plot resulted from Sid's grief and guilt over losing and not being able to protect Roshan, and thinking that he would never see the human baby he rescued again. When Sid can no longer be with his "kids", he realises that you cannot protect children forever, and believes that Roshan may be somewhere out there still, and if he is, he can fend for himself. This could be an explanation for why Sid is more optimistic than Diego and Manny- he has more faith than them that Roshan is alive. He also believes that his being an HonouraryUncle to Peaches is his third chance to try and successfully be involved in the raising of a child to adulthood. Sid begins to recover from the loss of the human baby.

Diego didn't seem to have any interest in females of his own species until Continental Drift, ''Continental Drift'', because he was too busy wondering what really happened to "Pinky". His fear of water in The Meltdown might of stemmed from a seeing a human drown (as Roshan's mother Nadia did- this solves the FridgeLogic of Diego having a fear of water in the second movie, but not the first one), or hearing a rumour that that's how humans were wiped out. Alternatively, the cause of the humans' extinction could have been the flood at the end of The Meltdown- there were no humans on the boat. In the third movie, another, unmentioned motivation of Diego's leaving the herd might have been to try and find Roshan and prove that he wasn't dead. When he inevitably decides to stay with the herd, he realises that his best friends have just had a daughter, and that they need his support, so he accepts the presumed fact that humans no longer exist, and that emotionally opens him up to meeting and becoming close to a love interest- Shira.

Towards the end of Continental Drift, ''Continental Drift'', the Herd have finally, well and truly, gotten over Roshan's assumed death. Sid now has Granny, a family member he needs to take care of, Diego is with Shira, and Peaches is growing up, whether Manny likes it or not. One last point to note: the series' AnthropomorphicShift may be due to the Ice Age Universe turning out opposite to RealLife after the ice age of roughly ten thousand years ago- humans die out and animals rise, develop a global society and technology, and conquer the world. Or, it could be the same as real life in that respect- Roshan could be a ''Neanderthal'' (a real extinct species of human), and somehow the Ice Age animals simply never come into contact with ''Homo sapiens'' (our species).



...as an Andrewsarchus. They've already had Creator/SimonPegg and Creator/NickFrost in the films, and if they don't at least ''try'' to get Serkis, someone is doing their job wrong.

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...as an Andrewsarchus.''Andrewsarchus''. They've already had Creator/SimonPegg and Creator/NickFrost in the films, and if they don't at least ''try'' to get Serkis, someone is doing their job wrong.



Carnivorous dinos like Momma Dino, Rudy and ''Guanlongs'' are clearly sapient (the former two show their sapience clearly, while the latter ones show theirs subtly, by utilizing the bizarre geography of the Plates of Woe to trap and kill their prey), Cretaceous takes sadistic glee in going after Manny, body language and facial expressions of other dinosaurs living in Lost World shows that they are somewhat sapient, while Gavin and his children in fifth movie are clearly ''speaking'' and are able to communicate with Buck verbally. This means that dinosaurs and other reptiles from Mesozoic era have their own separate language, older and different than language spoken by Cenozoic animals, similar to how Sumerian language is older than Latin language.

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Carnivorous dinos like Momma Dino, Rudy and ''Guanlongs'' ''Guanlong'''s are clearly sapient (the former two show their sapience clearly, while the latter ones show theirs subtly, by utilizing the bizarre geography of the Plates of Woe to trap and kill their prey), Cretaceous takes sadistic glee in going after Manny, body language and facial expressions of other dinosaurs living in Lost World shows that they are somewhat sapient, while Gavin and his children in fifth movie are clearly ''speaking'' and are able to communicate with Buck verbally. This means that dinosaurs and other reptiles from Mesozoic era have their own separate language, older and different than language spoken by Cenozoic animals, similar to how Sumerian language is older than Latin language.
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* ''Adventures of Buck Wild'' isn't canon.

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* ''Adventures of Buck Wild'' isn't canon.
canon to the rest of the movies.
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* ''Adventures of Buck Wild'' isn't canon.
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Given that both third and fourth movie are taking place in the same valley, the land bridge appearing in the latter one could be an unintentional reference to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia Beringia]], a land mass that connected both North America and Asia during the ice ages, thus placing the location of Snow Valley in Asia.

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Given that both third and fourth movie are taking place in the same valley, the land bridge appearing in the latter one ''Continental Drift'' could be an unintentional reference to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia Beringia]], a land mass that connected both North America and Asia during the ice ages, thus placing the location of Snow Valley in Asia.

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I consider my theory about anteaters a moot point, since Polish dub openly calls them like that, given that they look more like anteaters than aardvarks.


Fifth movie taking place in North America ([[RuleOfTwo again]]) [[Art/StatueOfLiberty is obvious]], with addition of Geotopia being ''Ice Age'' universe equivalent of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater Chicxulub crater]], being an asteroid that wiped out dinosaurs.

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Fifth movie taking place in North America ([[RuleOfTwo again]]) [[Art/StatueOfLiberty is obvious]], with addition of Geotopia being ''Ice Age'' universe equivalent of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater Chicxulub crater]], being an remnants of asteroid that wiped out dinosaurs.dinosaurs.

[[WMG: Aardvarks are actually giant anteaters.]]
And the reason why other characters call them "aardvarks" is for similar reasons as to why they refer to [[CallASmeerpARabbit brontotheres as rhinos]].
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The evidence of first film taking place in Europe is more easier to find than in the sequels, with first clue being the landscapes that resemble the Mammoth steppe, unlike the sequels which present more generic ice age setting. The second clue is presence of Stonehenge, which could indicate that main characters were in the ice age Britain during that time. The last clue is fact that Roshan's tribe are neanderthals who only lived in Europe, with the only humans living in America being ''Homo sapiens sapiens''.

The evidence for ''The Meltdown'' taking place in North America is kinda obvious, if you had heard of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods Missoula floods]], who took place in the north-west of the United States, with possibility of Ice Valley animals surviving one of them being a possibility.

Third and fourth movie taking place in Asia is a little far-fetched due to appearance of the land bridge which could had been this world equivalent of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia Beringia]], given that both movies take place in the same valley.

Fifth movie taking place in North America ([[RuleOfTwo again]]) [[Art/StatueOfLiberty is obvious]], with addition of Geotopia being ''Ice Age'' universe equivalent of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater Chicxulub_crater]], being an asteroid that wiped out dinosaurs.

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The evidence of first film taking place in Europe is more easier to find than in the sequels, with first clue being the landscapes that resemble the Mammoth steppe, unlike while the sequels which present more generic ice age setting. The second clue is presence of Stonehenge, which could indicate that main characters were in the ice age Britain during that time.the events of first movie. The last clue is fact that Roshan's tribe are neanderthals who only lived in Europe, with the only humans living in America being ''Homo sapiens sapiens''.

The evidence for While ''The Meltdown'' taking place in North America is kinda obvious, if you had heard features more generic ice age setting than first movie, the existence of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods Missoula floods]], who took place in the floods]] - cataclysmic glacial lake outburst floods that swept periodically north-west of the United States, States - could put events of second movie as taking place in the North America, with a possibility of that animals living in the Ice Valley animals surviving managed to survive one of them being a possibility.

Third
these floods.

Given that both third
and fourth movie are taking place in Asia is a little far-fetched due to appearance of the same valley, the land bridge which appearing in the latter one could had been this world equivalent of be an unintentional reference to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia Beringia]], given a land mass that connected both movies take place in North America and Asia during the same valley.

ice ages, thus placing the location of Snow Valley in Asia.

Fifth movie taking place in North America ([[RuleOfTwo again]]) [[Art/StatueOfLiberty is obvious]], with addition of Geotopia being ''Ice Age'' universe equivalent of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater Chicxulub_crater]], Chicxulub crater]], being an asteroid that wiped out dinosaurs.
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This theory is actually my headcanon which I have had for a few years now, so I feel a nice feeling that I can share it with the world.


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[[WMG: First movie takes place in Europe, second and fifth movie take place in North America, while the third and fourth movie take place in Asia.]]
Given the fact that main characters are constantly migrating, it could be possible that they could had lived in all of the above mentioned continents, with the fact that the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammoth_steppe Mammoth steppe]] was located on all three of them (not mentioning that before the events of fourth movie, the Herd could had been crossing the Pangea back and forth).

The evidence of first film taking place in Europe is more easier to find than in the sequels, with first clue being the landscapes that resemble the Mammoth steppe, unlike the sequels which present more generic ice age setting. The second clue is presence of Stonehenge, which could indicate that main characters were in the ice age Britain during that time. The last clue is fact that Roshan's tribe are neanderthals who only lived in Europe, with the only humans living in America being ''Homo sapiens sapiens''.

The evidence for ''The Meltdown'' taking place in North America is kinda obvious, if you had heard of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods Missoula floods]], who took place in the north-west of the United States, with possibility of Ice Valley animals surviving one of them being a possibility.

Third and fourth movie taking place in Asia is a little far-fetched due to appearance of the land bridge which could had been this world equivalent of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia Beringia]], given that both movies take place in the same valley.

Fifth movie taking place in North America ([[RuleOfTwo again]]) [[Art/StatueOfLiberty is obvious]], with addition of Geotopia being ''Ice Age'' universe equivalent of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater Chicxulub_crater]], being an asteroid that wiped out dinosaurs.
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Fixing indentation I wrote "sapient" instead of "sapience".


Carnivorous dinos like Momma Dino, Rudy and ''Guanlongs'' are clearly sapient (the former two show their sapient clearly, while the latter ones show theirs subtly, by utilizing the bizarre geography of the Plates of Woe to trap and kill their prey), Cretaceous takes sadistic glee in going after Manny, body language and facial expressions of other dinosaurs living in Lost World shows that they are somewhat sapient, while Gavin and his children in fifth movie are clearly ''speaking'' and are able to communicate with Buck verbally. This means that dinosaurs and other reptiles from Mesozoic era have their own separate language, older and different than language spoken by Cenozoic animals, similar to how Sumerian language is older than Latin language.

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Carnivorous dinos like Momma Dino, Rudy and ''Guanlongs'' are clearly sapient (the former two show their sapient sapience clearly, while the latter ones show theirs subtly, by utilizing the bizarre geography of the Plates of Woe to trap and kill their prey), Cretaceous takes sadistic glee in going after Manny, body language and facial expressions of other dinosaurs living in Lost World shows that they are somewhat sapient, while Gavin and his children in fifth movie are clearly ''speaking'' and are able to communicate with Buck verbally. This means that dinosaurs and other reptiles from Mesozoic era have their own separate language, older and different than language spoken by Cenozoic animals, similar to how Sumerian language is older than Latin language.
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Maybe that individual flock, sure, but the species as a whole survived. Don't forget we briefly see a single dodo in the second film before a geyser cooks it alive, and more in "Adventures of Buck Wild" coexisting with mammals and non-avian dinosaurs in the Lost World.

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Maybe that individual flock, sure, but the species as a whole survived. Don't forget we briefly see a single dodo in the second film before a geyser cooks it alive, and more in "Adventures of Buck Wild" coexisting with mammals and non-avian dinosaurs in the Lost World.World.

[[WMG: Mesozoic reptiles speak different language than Cenozoic animals.]]
Carnivorous dinos like Momma Dino, Rudy and ''Guanlongs'' are clearly sapient (the former two show their sapient clearly, while the latter ones show theirs subtly, by utilizing the bizarre geography of the Plates of Woe to trap and kill their prey), Cretaceous takes sadistic glee in going after Manny, body language and facial expressions of other dinosaurs living in Lost World shows that they are somewhat sapient, while Gavin and his children in fifth movie are clearly ''speaking'' and are able to communicate with Buck verbally. This means that dinosaurs and other reptiles from Mesozoic era have their own separate language, older and different than language spoken by Cenozoic animals, similar to how Sumerian language is older than Latin language.
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[[WWG: The dodos didn't actually go extinct in the first film.]]

Maybe that individual flock, sure, but the species on the whole survives. Don't forget we briefly see a single dodo in the second film before a gyser cooks it alive, and more in "Adventures of Buck Wild" coexisting with mammals and non-avian dinosaurs in the Lost World.

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[[WWG: [[WMG: The dodos didn't actually go extinct in the first film.]]

Maybe that individual flock, sure, but the species on the as a whole survives. survived. Don't forget we briefly see a single dodo in the second film before a gyser geyser cooks it alive, and more in "Adventures of Buck Wild" coexisting with mammals and non-avian dinosaurs in the Lost World.
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[[WWG: The dodos didn’t actually go extinct in the first film]]

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