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* [[spoiler: Was actually a ''foster'' son: Jeremy Clockson.]] We know that [[spoiler: Nanny Ogg had Jeremy and his other self (Newgate/Lobsang) left on the doorsteps of the Clockmakers' and Thieves' Guilds as newborns. Newborn babies aren't apprentices; they'd both have been entrusted to a foster mother until they were old enough to begin their professional training. The Thieves' Guild is a family enterprise and includes female thieves, so wouldn't need to foster Newgate to an outsider, but the Clockmakers are apparently all men and not as numerous, so are more likely to have placed baby Jeremy with a non-Guild caregiver. Whether at Nanny's instigation, Wen's, or acting on her own, Eskarina learned there was something ''very'' odd about the baby for whom the Clockmakers needed a matron, so offered herself as a foster parent to Jeremy. By observing her foster child's unconscious affects on time, and applying some of Simon's theories to those observations, Esk cracked the secrets of personal time travel. Later, after Jeremy had merged with Lobsang and become Time's AnthropomorphicPersonification, she realized that too much casual mucking with time-effects was putting needless strain on her erstwhile son, so she strictly limits her use to protect him from overwork.]]
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* [[spoiler: Is [[Discworld/ThiefOfTime Lobsang.]] Yes, this would mean that Esk became Time at some point. No, it doesn't have to make sense chronologically. TimeyWimeyBall, remember?]]

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* [[spoiler: Is [[Discworld/ThiefOfTime [[Literature/ThiefOfTime Lobsang.]] Yes, this would mean that Esk became Time at some point. No, it doesn't have to make sense chronologically. TimeyWimeyBall, remember?]]



* A very, very EpilepticTrees type guess: ''Discworld/TheWeeFreeMen'' starred the Feegles living in the '''earth'''. ''Discworld/AHatFullOfSky'' had Tiffany learning to make titular hat of ''air''. ''Discworld/{{Wintersmith}}'' starred the being of ''water''. And now, ''I Shall Wear Midnight'' has ''fire'' being an important element in [[spoiler:the defeat of the Cunning Man]]. Coincidence, or just narratively satisfying parallel?

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* A very, very EpilepticTrees type guess: ''Discworld/TheWeeFreeMen'' ''Literature/TheWeeFreeMen'' starred the Feegles living in the '''earth'''. ''Discworld/AHatFullOfSky'' ''Literature/AHatFullOfSky'' had Tiffany learning to make titular hat of ''air''. ''Discworld/{{Wintersmith}}'' ''Literature/{{Wintersmith}}'' starred the being of ''water''. And now, ''I Shall Wear Midnight'' has ''fire'' being an important element in [[spoiler:the defeat of the Cunning Man]]. Coincidence, or just narratively satisfying parallel?



Jeannie apparently talks about them this way, and their use relieves Amber of her fear, grief and misery with miraculous speed. We've already seen three entities in the main series that were more concept than creature - [[Discworld/SoulMusic the Music]], [[Discworld/MovingPictures the wild idea]], and [[Discworld/{{Thud}} the Summoning Dark]] - and all of them operated by manipulating the thoughts and behavior of those who succumbed to their influence. It's not unreasonable to assume that at least a few entities of the same type might be benevolent, not vengeful or self-perpetuating, and might choose to work with keldas as a way of being helpful to corporeal beings, in exchange for a home in their collective memory.

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Jeannie apparently talks about them this way, and their use relieves Amber of her fear, grief and misery with miraculous speed. We've already seen three entities in the main series that were more concept than creature - [[Discworld/SoulMusic [[Literature/SoulMusic the Music]], [[Discworld/MovingPictures [[Literature/MovingPictures the wild idea]], and [[Discworld/{{Thud}} [[Literature/{{Thud}} the Summoning Dark]] - and all of them operated by manipulating the thoughts and behavior of those who succumbed to their influence. It's not unreasonable to assume that at least a few entities of the same type might be benevolent, not vengeful or self-perpetuating, and might choose to work with keldas as a way of being helpful to corporeal beings, in exchange for a home in their collective memory.
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*** Plus I doubt Vetinari would have much use for such a resourceful and uncontrollable villain. Carcer might be the Disc's equivalent of SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, but Vetinari is far too GenreSavvy to gamble the Tanty isn't a CardboardPrison. Even if Carcer was found not guilty by way of insanity I suspect one of Vetinari's "dark clerks" would have paid a visit.

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*** Plus I doubt Vetinari would have much use for such a resourceful and uncontrollable villain. Carcer might be the Disc's equivalent of SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, ComicBook/TheJoker, but Vetinari is far too GenreSavvy to gamble the Tanty isn't a CardboardPrison. Even if Carcer was found not guilty by way of insanity I suspect one of Vetinari's "dark clerks" would have paid a visit.
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*** Macintosh is described as a short, heavyset man. Carcer wasn't built like that.

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*** Macintosh is described as a short, heavyset man. Carcer wasn't built like that.
that. Mrs. Proust also recalls his trial from ''last year'', and Carcer's trial would've taken place years earlier.
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* Some aspects of their personalities seem to recapitulate Magrat, Nanny and Granny too. Letitia is soppy and insecure, and learned her magic by reading about it in tinkly-airy-fairy books, much like Magrat put stock in crystals and mystic jewelry and so on. Amber got knocked up at thirteen, is enough of a social chameleon to fit in with an entirely different ''species'' from day one, and has a connection to an ancient Fairyland legacy (the keldas) that probably goes back as far as Nanny's old fey acquaintance, the Horned Man. And Tiffany, aside from all her previously-revealed Granny-like traits, has now struck up a romance with a smart, playful fellow who's made ObfuscatingStupidity an art form, who's soon to leave his rustic roots behind to get a lot of impressive letters appended to his name, and who takes up headship of an academic institution in the book where he's introduced. True, a converted barn schoolhouse isn't as impressive as Unseen University, and Tiffany's relationship with Preston may last a lot longer than a much younger Esme did with Mustrum Ridcully, but the analogy holds up surprisingly well.

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* Some aspects of their personalities seem to recapitulate Magrat, Nanny and Granny too. Letitia is soppy soppy, soggy, and insecure, and she learned her magic by reading about it in tinkly-airy-fairy books, much like Magrat put stock in crystals and mystic jewelry and so on. Amber got knocked up at thirteen, is enough of a social chameleon to fit in with an entirely different ''species'' from day one, and has a connection to an ancient Fairyland legacy (the keldas) that probably goes back as far as Nanny's old fey acquaintance, the Horned Man. And Tiffany, aside from all her previously-revealed Granny-like traits, has now struck up a romance with a smart, playful fellow who's made ObfuscatingStupidity an art form, who's soon to leave his rustic roots behind to get a lot of impressive letters appended to his name, and who takes up headship of an academic institution in the book where he's introduced. True, a converted barn schoolhouse isn't as impressive as Unseen University, and Tiffany's relationship with Preston may last a lot longer than a much younger Esme did with Mustrum Ridcully, but the analogy holds up surprisingly well.
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* Some aspects of their personalities seem to recapitulate Magrat, Nanny and Granny too. Leticia is soppy and insecure, and learned her magic by reading about it in tinkly-airy-fairy books, much like Magrat put stock in crystals and mystic jewelry and so on. Amber got knocked up at thirteen, is enough of a social chameleon to fit in with an entirely different ''species'' from day one, and has a connection to an ancient Fairyland legacy (the keldas) that probably goes back as far as Nanny's old fey acquaintance, the Horned Man. And Tiffany, aside from all her previously-revealed Granny-like traits, has now struck up a romance with a smart, playful fellow who's made ObfuscatingStupidity an art form, who's soon to leave his rustic roots behind to get a lot of impressive letters appended to his name, and who takes up headship of an academic institution in the book where he's introduced. True, a converted barn schoolhouse isn't as impressive as Unseen University, and Tiffany's relationship with Preston may last a lot longer than a much younger Esme did with Mustrum Ridcully, but the analogy holds up surprisingly well.

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* Some aspects of their personalities seem to recapitulate Magrat, Nanny and Granny too. Leticia Letitia is soppy and insecure, and learned her magic by reading about it in tinkly-airy-fairy books, much like Magrat put stock in crystals and mystic jewelry and so on. Amber got knocked up at thirteen, is enough of a social chameleon to fit in with an entirely different ''species'' from day one, and has a connection to an ancient Fairyland legacy (the keldas) that probably goes back as far as Nanny's old fey acquaintance, the Horned Man. And Tiffany, aside from all her previously-revealed Granny-like traits, has now struck up a romance with a smart, playful fellow who's made ObfuscatingStupidity an art form, who's soon to leave his rustic roots behind to get a lot of impressive letters appended to his name, and who takes up headship of an academic institution in the book where he's introduced. True, a converted barn schoolhouse isn't as impressive as Unseen University, and Tiffany's relationship with Preston may last a lot longer than a much younger Esme did with Mustrum Ridcully, but the analogy holds up surprisingly well.
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* Some aspects of their personalities seem to recapitulate Magrat, Nanny and Granny too. Leticia is soppy and insecure, and learned her magic by reading about it in tinkly-airy-fairy books, much like Magrat put stock in crystals and mystic jewelry and so on. Amber got knocked up at thirteen, is enough of a social chameleon to fit in with an entirely different ''species'' from day one, and has a connection to an ancient Fairyland legacy (the keldas) that probably goes back as far as Nanny's old fey acquaintance, the Horned Man. And Tiffany, aside from all her previously-revealed Granny-like traits, has now struck up a romance with a smart, playful fellow who's made ObfuscatingStupidity an art form, who's soon to leave his rustic roots behind to get a lot of impressive letters appended to his name, and who takes up headship of an academic institution in the book where he's introduced. True, a converted barn schoolhouse isn't as impressive as Unseen University, and Tiffany's relationship with Preston may last a lot longer than a much younger Esme did with Mustrum Ridcully, but the analogy holds up surprisingly well.
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*** Macintosh is described as a short, heavyset man. Carcer wasn't built like that.

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