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Considering what [[JerkJock kind of guys]] that [[RatedMForManly the Manotaurs]] are, it must also be part of their culture to be [[StrawMisogynist openly sexist]] towards their own women, hence why we didn't see the two sexes socialize.
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Considering what [[JerkJock kind of guys]] guys that [[RatedMForManly the Manotaurs]] are, it must also be part of their culture to be [[StrawMisogynist openly sexist]] towards their own women, hence why we didn't see the two sexes socialize.
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* Partially Jossed. Bill does enter the physical world, and they have powers, but it wasn't from the portal.
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* Confirmed by the entirety of Weirdmageddon. Bill Cipher succeeds in doing this.
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[[WMG: There is an UltimateEvil behind Bill named Xolotl]]
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[[WMG: There is an UltimateEvil UnseenEvil behind Bill named Xolotl]]
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[[WMG: The Time Giants were the ones who imprisoned Bill and his minions in the nightmare realm.]]
Eons ago, when the Time Giants lived, they fought a catastrophic cosmic war against Bill and his forces. It ultimately led to the near extinction of their entire race, but with the last of their power, they banished him and his minions to the nightmare realm, hopefully for eternity. The last survivor of their species was Time Baby, who would hopefully one day rebuild their race. Bill then spent the next many eons plotting and scheming ways to escape his seemingly eternal imprisonment, while swearing vengeance on Time Baby and his progenitors for trapping him there.
Eons ago, when the Time Giants lived, they fought a catastrophic cosmic war against Bill and his forces. It ultimately led to the near extinction of their entire race, but with the last of their power, they banished him and his minions to the nightmare realm, hopefully for eternity. The last survivor of their species was Time Baby, who would hopefully one day rebuild their race. Bill then spent the next many eons plotting and scheming ways to escape his seemingly eternal imprisonment, while swearing vengeance on Time Baby and his progenitors for trapping him there.
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[[spoiler:The self-resurrection spell he was attempting on himself worked, but since Stanley managed to punch him out and shatter him, his essence has now been completely shattered, [[AndIMustScream broken into tiny, inconsequential pieces that is each still technically alive]]. However, him being shattered in this state, while at the very height of his power, and while trying to prevent his own death, [[DivideByZero caused reality itself to be partially warped]], spreading his shattered soul across the multiverse. Namely, any and all universes owned by Disney. It will be at this point that every single Disney production made after the series finale will be having a piece of Bill Cipher in it in the form of tiny little easily missed EasterEggs. And when I mean ''every'' Disney Production, I mean '''EVERY SINGLE ONE'''. Disney parks and resorts, animated shows on Creator/DisneyChannel, live action sitcoms, Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, video games, Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, Franchise/StarWars, Disney Junior, ABC dramas and shows, [[UpToEleven Broadway Musicals]], '''''sports coverages''''', the whole kitten-kaboodle!]]
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[[spoiler:The self-resurrection spell he was attempting on himself worked, but since Stanley managed to punch him out and shatter him, his essence has now been completely shattered, [[AndIMustScream broken into tiny, inconsequential pieces that is each still technically alive]]. However, him being shattered in this state, while at the very height of his power, and while trying to prevent his own death, [[DivideByZero caused reality itself to be partially warped]], spreading his shattered soul across the multiverse. Namely, any and all universes owned by Disney. It will be at this point that every single Disney production made after the series finale will be having a piece of Bill Cipher in it in the form of tiny little easily missed EasterEggs. And when I mean ''every'' Disney Production, I mean '''EVERY SINGLE ONE'''. Disney parks and resorts, animated shows on Creator/DisneyChannel, live action sitcoms, Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, video games, Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, Franchise/StarWars, Disney Junior, ABC dramas and shows, [[UpToEleven Broadway Musicals]], Musicals, '''''sports coverages''''', the whole kitten-kaboodle!]]
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Jossed. However, during the Website/{{Reddit}} AMA one of "Bill's" replies ''does'' contain the coordinates for the Bermuda Triangle, signifiying ''some'' potential connection.
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** Jossed. He did make an appearance in the finale but he wasn't really a ChekhovsGunman.
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* This may support the "The Northwests support Bill" theory, because, as we all know, the Northwests are all arrogant, selfish [[ConsummateLiar Consummate Liars]]. Now, you may point out that [[WhiteSheep Pacifica]] isn't this, but that is the point! Pacifica is one of TheChosenMany ''[[TookALevelInKindness because]]'' [[TookALevelInKindness she let go of her pride]]. (And before you tell me that the "The Northwests support Bill" theory is jossed, I'll tell you this: 1) [[FacialHorror what Bill did to Preston Northwest]] is symbolically the exact same thing [[GrandTheftMe he did to Dipper]]: showing them that pride causes one's downfall. Focus on the symbolism, not the plot itself.)
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* This may support the "The Northwests support Bill" theory, because, as we all know, the Northwests are all arrogant, selfish [[ConsummateLiar Consummate Liars]]. Now, you may point out that [[WhiteSheep Pacifica]] isn't this, but that is the point! Pacifica is one of TheChosenMany ''[[TookALevelInKindness because]]'' [[TookALevelInKindness she let go of her pride]]. (And before you tell me that the "The Northwests support Bill" theory is jossed, I'll tell you this: 1) [[FacialHorror what Bill did to Preston Northwest]] is symbolically the exact same thing [[GrandTheftMe he did to Dipper]]: showing them that pride causes one's downfall. Focus on the symbolism, not the plot itself.first time Bill was cruel to someone who made a deal with him: it's a habit of his, as he pulled a GrandTheftMe on Dipper when the two made a deal. Furthermore, you should focus on the symbolism.)
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* This may support the "The Northwests support Bill" theory, because, as we all know, the Northwests are all arrogant, selfish [[ConsummateLiar Consummate Liars]]. Now, you may point out that [[WhiteSheep Pacifica]] isn't this, but that is the point! Pacifica is one of TheChosenMany ''[[TookALevelInKindness because]]'' [[TookALevelInKindness she let go of her pride]]. (And before you tell me that the "The Northwests support Bill" theory is jossed, I'll tell you this: 1) [[FaceHorror what Bill did to Preston Northwest]] is symbolically the exact same thing [[GrandTheftMe he did to Dipper]]: showing them that pride causes one's downfall. Focus on the symbolism, not the plot itself.)
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* This may support the "The Northwests support Bill" theory, because, as we all know, the Northwests are all arrogant, selfish [[ConsummateLiar Consummate Liars]]. Now, you may point out that [[WhiteSheep Pacifica]] isn't this, but that is the point! Pacifica is one of TheChosenMany ''[[TookALevelInKindness because]]'' [[TookALevelInKindness she let go of her pride]]. (And before you tell me that the "The Northwests support Bill" theory is jossed, I'll tell you this: 1) [[FaceHorror [[FacialHorror what Bill did to Preston Northwest]] is symbolically the exact same thing [[GrandTheftMe he did to Dipper]]: showing them that pride causes one's downfall. Focus on the symbolism, not the plot itself.)
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* This may support the "The Northwests support Bill" theory, because, as we all know, the Northwests are all arrogant, selfish [[ConsummateLiar Consummate Liars]]. Now, you may point out that [[WhiteSheep Pacifica]] isn't this, but that is the point! Pacifica is one of TheChosenMany ''[[TookALevelInKindness because]]'' [[TookALevelInKindness she let go of her pride]].
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* This may support the "The Northwests support Bill" theory, because, as we all know, the Northwests are all arrogant, selfish [[ConsummateLiar Consummate Liars]]. Now, you may point out that [[WhiteSheep Pacifica]] isn't this, but that is the point! Pacifica is one of TheChosenMany ''[[TookALevelInKindness because]]'' [[TookALevelInKindness she let go of her pride]]. \n (And before you tell me that the "The Northwests support Bill" theory is jossed, I'll tell you this: 1) [[FaceHorror what Bill did to Preston Northwest]] is symbolically the exact same thing [[GrandTheftMe he did to Dipper]]: showing them that pride causes one's downfall. Focus on the symbolism, not the plot itself.)
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* Rather interesting and heartwarming take on [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jbq2EEPG14 MatPat's take on the "Bill will be ressurected" theory.]]
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* This may support the "The Northwests support Bill" theory, because, as we all know, the Northwests are all arrogant, selfish [[ConsummateLiar Consummate Liars]]. Now, you may point out that [[WhiteSheep Pacifica]] isn't this, but [[TookALevelInKindness that is the point]]! Pacifica is one of TheChosenMany because she let go of her pride.
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* This may support the "The Northwests support Bill" theory, because, as we all know, the Northwests are all arrogant, selfish [[ConsummateLiar Consummate Liars]]. Now, you may point out that [[WhiteSheep Pacifica]] isn't this, but [[TookALevelInKindness that is the point]]! point! Pacifica is one of TheChosenMany because ''[[TookALevelInKindness because]]'' [[TookALevelInKindness she let go of her pride.pride]].
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[[WMG: Alternatively, Bill Cipher is a symbol of {{Pride}}.]]
[[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-HGyIuumn5Q This video]] puts it rather nicely. According to it, every time Bill makes a deal with someone (Ford, Gideon, Dipper, Mabel), that someone was controlled by their own pride, and when said pride is rebuked, Bill is defeated.
* This may support the "The Northwests support Bill" theory, because, as we all know, the Northwests are all arrogant, selfish [[ConsummateLiar Consummate Liars]]. Now, you may point out that [[WhiteSheep Pacifica]] isn't this, but [[TookALevelInKindness that is the point]]! Pacifica is one of TheChosenMany because she let go of her pride.
[[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-HGyIuumn5Q This video]] puts it rather nicely. According to it, every time Bill makes a deal with someone (Ford, Gideon, Dipper, Mabel), that someone was controlled by their own pride, and when said pride is rebuked, Bill is defeated.
* This may support the "The Northwests support Bill" theory, because, as we all know, the Northwests are all arrogant, selfish [[ConsummateLiar Consummate Liars]]. Now, you may point out that [[WhiteSheep Pacifica]] isn't this, but [[TookALevelInKindness that is the point]]! Pacifica is one of TheChosenMany because she let go of her pride.
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* Both are associated with Ancient Egypt. Bill claimed to be the inspiration for the pyramids in his Reddit AMA. Nyarlathotep was once worshipped in Egypt via the guise of the Black Pharoah.
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* Both are associated with Ancient Egypt. Bill claimed to be the inspiration for the pyramids in his Reddit AMA. Nyarlathotep was once worshipped in Egypt via the guise of the Black Pharoah.Pharaoh.
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If Bill is Nyarlathotep... good on him for changing masks, honestly. That whole Black Pharoah thing is, like, super-uncomfortable and racist these days.
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If Bill is Nyarlathotep... good on him for changing masks, honestly. That whole Black Pharoah Pharaoh thing is, like, super-uncomfortable and racist these days.
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[[WMG: Bill is a Chaos daemon of Tzeentch from TabletopGame/Warhammer40000]]
Tzeentch is the Chaos god of change, knowledge, intrigue, plots, fate, scheming, and lies; all of these things describe Bill to a T. His ''modus operandi'' of tempting humans with forbidden knowledge or their greatest desires and then lying to, possessing, and tormenting them for his own amusement is also a dead ringer for a Tzeentchian daemon. His home dimension strongly resembles the Warp, and Weirdmageddon looks a lot like what happens when a Warp rift is opened, including unleashing horrendous monstrosities on the town and corrupting the very fabric of reality. Alternatively, he's a minor Chaos god in his own right; one of Gideon's henchmen outright calls him one in Weirdmageddon Pt. 1.
[[WMG: Bill is a Chaos daemon of Tzeentch from TabletopGame/Warhammer40000]]
Tzeentch is the Chaos god of change, knowledge, intrigue, plots, fate, scheming, and lies; all of these things describe Bill to a T. His ''modus operandi'' of tempting humans with forbidden knowledge or their greatest desires and then lying to, possessing, and tormenting them for his own amusement is also a dead ringer for a Tzeentchian daemon. His home dimension strongly resembles the Warp, and Weirdmageddon looks a lot like what happens when a Warp rift is opened, including unleashing horrendous monstrosities on the town and corrupting the very fabric of reality. Alternatively, he's a minor Chaos god in his own right; one of Gideon's henchmen outright calls him one in Weirdmageddon Pt. 1.
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[[spoiler:The self-resurrection spell he was attempting on himself worked, but since Stanley managed to punch him out and shatter him, his essence has now been completely shattered, [[AndIMustScream broken into tiny, inconsequential pieces that is each still technically alive]]. However, him being shattered in this state, while at the very height of his power, and while trying to prevent his own death, [[DivideByZero caused reality itself to be partially warped]], spreading his shattered soul across the multiverse. Namely, any and all universes owned by Disney. It will be at this point that every single Disney production made after the series finale will be having a piece of Bill Cipher in it in the form of tiny little easily missed EasterEggs. And when I mean ''every'' Disney Production, I mean '''EVERY SINGLE ONE'''. Disney parks and resorts, animated shows on Creator/DisneyChannel, live action sitcoms, Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, video games, Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, StarWars, Disney Junior, ABC dramas and shows, [[UpToEleven Broadway Musicals]], '''''sports coverages''''', the whole kitten-kaboodle!]]
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[[spoiler:The self-resurrection spell he was attempting on himself worked, but since Stanley managed to punch him out and shatter him, his essence has now been completely shattered, [[AndIMustScream broken into tiny, inconsequential pieces that is each still technically alive]]. However, him being shattered in this state, while at the very height of his power, and while trying to prevent his own death, [[DivideByZero caused reality itself to be partially warped]], spreading his shattered soul across the multiverse. Namely, any and all universes owned by Disney. It will be at this point that every single Disney production made after the series finale will be having a piece of Bill Cipher in it in the form of tiny little easily missed EasterEggs. And when I mean ''every'' Disney Production, I mean '''EVERY SINGLE ONE'''. Disney parks and resorts, animated shows on Creator/DisneyChannel, live action sitcoms, Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, video games, Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, StarWars, Franchise/StarWars, Disney Junior, ABC dramas and shows, [[UpToEleven Broadway Musicals]], '''''sports coverages''''', the whole kitten-kaboodle!]]
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** Actually, Bill shows ''all three'' of these colors throughout the course of Gravity Falls; red whenever he's furious or excited, black when he first arrives and when he dies, and yellow as his default.
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[[WMG: Bill actually is a case of {{You Cannot Grasp The True Form}}.]]
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[[WMG: Bill actually is a case of {{You Cannot Grasp The True Form}}.YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm.]]
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[[WMG: Bill's goals are similar to [[MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Discord's]] original goals.]]
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[[WMG: Bill's goals are similar to [[MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Discord's]] original goals.]]
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**** Goat pupils are horizontal, while those of Bill Cipher and whoever he possesses are vertical. One must also willingly shake Bill's hand for him to possess them, which the goat probably lacks the mental capacity to do in any way.
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** There are canon spells for raising the dead in the series. It's very possible that Robbie's parents used one of them on him. Maybe they didn't treat him well before he died and deeply regret it, which is why they act all very cheery around him. Alternatively they made a deal with the devil after digging up some remains of a necromancer to bring their son back.
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** If the potion worked on Mabel then the situation would be ''very'' weird, since she'd then be attracted to Love God and the writers would very likely never go that far for obvious reasons. It's possible that: a) The Love Potion doesn't work if one of the targets are underaged. Or b) The Love God can disable the effects of the Love Potion without potions, but only under some conditions. Alternatively the Love Potion doesn't work on kids, since we've never seen it being used on one as far as I'm aware.
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[[WMG: There is an alternate timeline where Soos, .GIFanny and Melody end up in a {{Polymory}}.]]
In this universe Soos suggests to both .GIFFany and Melody that "we could totally be bros together forever!". .GIFFany agrees since she still gets to be with Soos and Melody is ok with it in general. .GIFFany eventually warms up to Melody just a little bit over their shared love of Soos.
In this universe Soos suggests to both .GIFFany and Melody that "we could totally be bros together forever!". .GIFFany agrees since she still gets to be with Soos and Melody is ok with it in general. .GIFFany eventually warms up to Melody just a little bit over their shared love of Soos.
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[[WMG: Bill's twin (probably named William) is also [[spoiler: The Axolotl]].]]
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[[WMG: Bill's twin (probably named William) is also [[spoiler: The Axolotl]].Axolotl.]]
No real reason for this theory. I just assumed that The Axolotl was always Bill's brother for some reason.
[[WMG: Bill Cipher reincarnated as an axolotl.]]
It would be pretty ironic!
No real reason for this theory. I just assumed that The Axolotl was always Bill's brother for some reason.
[[WMG: Bill Cipher reincarnated as an axolotl.]]
It would be pretty ironic!
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[[WMG: Bill burned his own dimension because...]]
...He was jealous that his twin brother, William Cipher, got his own constellation (as seen in Journal 3) while he didn't. It's fairly obvious that Bill has a twin and him having a twin for a theory isn't anything new or unheard of. Him having a twin named Will fits with the thematical naming of twins within the series, (Stanley, Stanford, Mabel, [[spoiler: Mason]]) so it makes pretty perfect sense.
[[WMG: Bill's twin (probably named William) is also [[spoiler: The Axolotl]].]]
...He was jealous that his twin brother, William Cipher, got his own constellation (as seen in Journal 3) while he didn't. It's fairly obvious that Bill has a twin and him having a twin for a theory isn't anything new or unheard of. Him having a twin named Will fits with the thematical naming of twins within the series, (Stanley, Stanford, Mabel, [[spoiler: Mason]]) so it makes pretty perfect sense.
[[WMG: Bill's twin (probably named William) is also [[spoiler: The Axolotl]].]]
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[[WMG:Bill can possess any person without a deal if they are not part of Bill's circle]]
It would explain why he aparently [[GrandTheftMe taken]] control of Blandin Blendin without do a deal with this last
It would explain why he aparently [[GrandTheftMe taken]] control of Blandin Blendin without do a deal with this last
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Along with his family. The episode will dive deeper into the Mermando x Mabel relationship. It will involve a parody of ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1'' in which Mermando magically develops legs to get closer to Mabel.
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Along with his family. The episode will dive deeper into the Mermando x Mabel relationship. It will involve a parody of ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1'' ''WesternAnimation/{{The Little Mermaid|1989}}'' in which Mermando magically develops legs to get closer to Mabel.
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[[WMG: Bill Cipher will end up playing the role of [[{{Discworld/Thud}} the Summoning Dark]]. ]]
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[[WMG: Bill Cipher will end up playing the role of [[{{Discworld/Thud}} [[{{Literature/Thud}} the Summoning Dark]]. ]]
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The beginning of Bill's reversed incantation as he meets his end could be either "Axolotl" or an incoherent scream followed by "Xolotl". In Aztec mythology, Xolotl is the God of death, monsters, misfortune, sickness and deformities, all things that are pretty closely associated with Bill. He is also associated with the Underworld (could be interpreted to be Bill's dimension), and oddly enough the god of twins. Who is to say that there is not a being in the Weird Dimension more powerful than even Bill? Perhaps the BiggerBad behind Bill, someone he could call out to in hope of being brought back to life? Maybe even the MonsterProgenitor of all the weirdness?
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The beginning of Bill's reversed incantation as he meets his end could be either "Axolotl" or an incoherent scream followed by "Xolotl". In Aztec mythology, Xolotl is the God of death, monsters, misfortune, sickness and deformities, all things that are pretty closely associated with Bill. He is also associated with the Underworld (could be interpreted to be Bill's dimension), and oddly enough the god of twins. Who is to say that there is not a being in the Weird Dimension more powerful than even Bill? Perhaps the BiggerBad villain behind Bill, someone he could call out to in hope of being brought back to life? Maybe even the MonsterProgenitor of all the weirdness?
