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Note that he appears in ''Film/KillBill'' (which incidentally stars another character who survived a gunshot to the head) and the ''Film/{{Grindhouse}}'' movies after this one. Chronologically speaking, his appearance in ''Kill Bill'' could be either before or after his appearance in this movie, but [[Film/PlanetTerror both]] [[Film/DeathProof movies]] in the ''Grindhouse'' DoubleFeature clearly take place after ''From Dusk till Dawn''. The news report pronouncing him dead could be a case similar to the initial reporting around White House Press Secretary [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brady James Brady]], who was shot in the head during the attempt on UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan's life in 1981.


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Note that he appears in ''Film/KillBill'' (which incidentally stars another character who survived a gunshot to the head) and the ''Film/{{Grindhouse}}'' movies after this one. Chronologically speaking, his appearance in ''Kill Bill'' could be either before or after his appearance in this movie, but [[Film/PlanetTerror both]] [[Film/DeathProof movies]] in the ''Grindhouse'' DoubleFeature clearly take place after ''From Dusk till Dawn''. The news report pronouncing him dead could be a case similar to the initial reporting around White House Press Secretary [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brady James Brady]], who Brady]] (who was shot in the head during the attempt [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Ronald_Reagan attempt]] on UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan's life in 1981.

1981) and Arizona representative [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabby_Giffords Gabby Giffords]] (who was ''also'' [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting shot in the head]], then [[https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2011/conflicting-reports-of-giffords-death-were-understandable-but-not-excusable/ erroneously]] [[https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2011/01/11/132812196/nprs-giffords-mistake-re-learning-the-lesson-of-checking-sources pronounced]] [[https://www.politico.com/story/2011/01/npr-we-regret-the-erroneous-news-047282 dead]] in initial news reports, thirty years after Brady).

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Note that he appears in ''Film/KillBill'' (which incidentally stars another character who survived a gunshot to the head) and the ''Film/{{Grindhouse}}'' movies after this one. Chronologically speaking, his appearance in ''Kill Bill'' could be either before or after his appearance in this movie, but [[Film/PlanetTerror both]] [[Film/DeathProof movies]] in the ''Grindhouse'' DoubleFeature clearly take place after ''From Dusk till Dawn''. The news report pronouncing him dead could be a case similar to the initial reporting around White House Press Secretary [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brady James Brady]], who was shot in the head during the attempt on Reagan's life.


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Note that he appears in ''Film/KillBill'' (which incidentally stars another character who survived a gunshot to the head) and the ''Film/{{Grindhouse}}'' movies after this one. Chronologically speaking, his appearance in ''Kill Bill'' could be either before or after his appearance in this movie, but [[Film/PlanetTerror both]] [[Film/DeathProof movies]] in the ''Grindhouse'' DoubleFeature clearly take place after ''From Dusk till Dawn''. The news report pronouncing him dead could be a case similar to the initial reporting around White House Press Secretary [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brady James Brady]], who was shot in the head during the attempt on Reagan's life.

UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan's life in 1981.

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[[WMG:Earl McGraw survived being shot, then dragged himself out the back of the burning store as the Gecko brothers left through the front door.]]
Note that he appears in ''Film/KillBill'' (which incidentally stars another character who survived a gunshot to the head) and the ''Film/{{Grindhouse}}'' movies after this one. Chronologically speaking, his appearance in ''Kill Bill'' could be either before or after his appearance in this movie, but [[Film/PlanetTerror both]] [[Film/DeathProof movies]] in the ''Grindhouse'' DoubleFeature clearly take place after ''From Dusk till Dawn''.


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[[WMG:Earl McGraw [=McGraw=] survived being shot, then dragged himself out the back of the burning store as the Gecko brothers left through the front door.]]
Note that he appears in ''Film/KillBill'' (which incidentally stars another character who survived a gunshot to the head) and the ''Film/{{Grindhouse}}'' movies after this one. Chronologically speaking, his appearance in ''Kill Bill'' could be either before or after his appearance in this movie, but [[Film/PlanetTerror both]] [[Film/DeathProof movies]] in the ''Grindhouse'' DoubleFeature clearly take place after ''From Dusk till Dawn''.

Dawn''. The news report pronouncing him dead could be a case similar to the initial reporting around White House Press Secretary [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brady James Brady]], who was shot in the head during the attempt on Reagan's life.

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[[WMG:Earl McGraw survived being shot, then dragged himself out the back of the burning store as the Gecko brothers left through the front door.]]
Note that he appears in ''Film/KillBill'' (which incidentally stars another character who survived a gunshot to the head) and the ''Film/{{Grindhouse}}'' movies after this one. Chronologically speaking, his appearance in ''Kill Bill'' could be either before or after his appearance in this movie, but [[Film/PlanetTerror both]] [[Film/DeathProof movies]] in the ''Grindhouse'' DoubleFeature clearly take place after ''From Dusk till Dawn''.

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[[WMG: Jacob didn't turn as quickly, because he regained his faith.]]

The rest of the cast who are turned took from a few seconds to a minute or two to turn, Jacob lasts a lot longer than that, it's of his faith being restored, blessed or holy items and symbols work against the vampires, so naturally regaining his faith is like an "internal" blessing, but, while because he had only just regained his faith, it was only strong enough to slow the infection, if he had fully regained his faith, it might have either stopped it, or, at least kept it at bay long enough for morning to come and get his family out.
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Specifically from the Tlacique bloodline. They show all the telltale signs, from displaying snake powers, emotionally manipulating their victims and even being capable of disguising themselves as others. They worship ancient Mexican gods, and perhaps their relationship with the spirits of the land have made them more resilient than regular vampires, even allowing them to walk in the sun for limited periods, something regular Setites would find especially abhorrent.

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Specifically from the Tlacique bloodline. They show all the telltale signs, from displaying snake powers, emotionally manipulating their victims and even being capable of disguising themselves as others. They worship ancient Mexican gods, and perhaps their relationship with the spirits of the land have made them more resilient than regular vampires, even allowing them to walk in the sun for limited periods, something regular Setites would find especially abhorrent.abhorrent.

[[WMG: The Regulator wasn't a Culebra]]

He was a Gargoyle-like demon, similar to Culebras but more powerful, perhaps, As Malvado treats him with respect and refers to him as a friend, not like a tool as he does other Culebras, perhaps The Regulator was one who helped the 9 lords escape, and he seems to willingly remain a statue until needed, not sore about his status at all.
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[[WMG: Seth was planning on killing Richie when they got to Mexico.]]

Seth knew That in Mexico things would be worse for Richie, while they wouldn't be looking over their shoulders for the police, Richie would still be a mentally unstable psychopathic rapist, at "best" the cartels would want to use him as a weapon of terror, at "worst" Richie would have almost free-rein to do whatever he wanted until he fucked with the wrong person then the ''cartels'' would be after them, Seth's plan was to get them to Mexico, take Richie someplace nice and let them celebrate, then kill him, giving Richie as Seth said "The peace in Death, he never had in Life" this reason is why he came up with that line so fast.
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[[WMG: The Culebras are Setites from VampireTheMasquerade]]

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** I don't that one is entirely possible considering the series is a parrallel universe reimaginging of the movie to begin with. Then again, could be wrong there. Besides WordOfGod says it's in a parallel universe anyway.

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** I don't that **That one is technically isn't entirely possible considering the series is a parrallel universe reimaginging of the movie to begin with. Then again, could be wrong there. Besides WordOfGod says it's in a parallel universe anyway.
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** I don't that one is entirely possible considering the series is a parrallel universe reimaginging of the movie to begin with. Then again, could be wrong there. Besides WordOfGod says it's in a parallel universe anyway.
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Specifically from the Tlaqique bloodline. They show all the telltale signs, from displaying snake powers, emotionally manipulating their victims and even being capable of disguising themselves as others. They worship ancient Mexican gods, and perhaps their relationship with the spirits of the land have made them more resilient than regular vampires, even allowing them to walk in the sun for limited periods, something regular Setites would find especially abhorrent.

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Specifically from the Tlaqique Tlacique bloodline. They show all the telltale signs, from displaying snake powers, emotionally manipulating their victims and even being capable of disguising themselves as others. They worship ancient Mexican gods, and perhaps their relationship with the spirits of the land have made them more resilient than regular vampires, even allowing them to walk in the sun for limited periods, something regular Setites would find especially abhorrent.
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Specifically from the Daitya bloodline. They show all the telltale signs, from displaying snake powers, emotionally manipulating their victims and even being capable of disguising themselves as others. They worship ancient Mexican gods, and perhaps their relationship with the spirits of the land have made them more resilient than regular vampires, even allowing them to walk in the sun for limited periods, something regular Setites would find especially abhorrent.

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Specifically from the Daitya Tlaqique bloodline. They show all the telltale signs, from displaying snake powers, emotionally manipulating their victims and even being capable of disguising themselves as others. They worship ancient Mexican gods, and perhaps their relationship with the spirits of the land have made them more resilient than regular vampires, even allowing them to walk in the sun for limited periods, something regular Setites would find especially abhorrent.
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Howard lived in Texas, the culebras' back yard and his stories have an overabundance of evil snakes, dark cults and serpent men who masquerade as regular human beings. This interaction may also be where Lord Oculto got his interest in pulp fantasy from.

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Howard lived in Texas, the culebras' back yard and his stories have an overabundance of evil snakes, dark cults and serpent men who masquerade as regular human beings. This interaction may also be where Lord Oculto got his interest in pulp fantasy from.from.

[[WMG: The Culebras are Setites from VampireTheMasquerade]]

Specifically from the Daitya bloodline. They show all the telltale signs, from displaying snake powers, emotionally manipulating their victims and even being capable of disguising themselves as others. They worship ancient Mexican gods, and perhaps their relationship with the spirits of the land have made them more resilient than regular vampires, even allowing them to walk in the sun for limited periods, something regular Setites would find especially abhorrent.

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The second half of The Movie is basically a macho gorefest that serves to make Seth look like the ultimate badass, with the MercyKill of Ritchie added to make him sympathetic. His experience with the labyrinth, a dark meander through his troubled past that he wouldn't want to be sharing, is replaced by a final stand-off with the vampires, which he ultimately wins. Even the ending gets changed to his benefit, he gets the money, the life in El Ray, and a PetTheDog moment with Kate. Instead of the reality of losing everything and hitting rock bottom.



Howard lived in Texas, the culebras' back yard and his stories have an overabundance of evil snakes, dark cults and serpent men who masquerade as regular human beings. This interaction may also be where Lord Oculto got his interest in pulp fantasy from.

The second half of The Movie is basically a macho gorefest that serves to make Seth look like the ultimate badass, with the MercyKill of Ritchie added to make him sympathetic. His experience with the labyrinth, a dark meander through his troubled past that he wouldn't want to be sharing, is replaced by a final stand-off with the vampires, which he ultimately wins. Even the ending gets changed to his benefit, he gets the money, the life in El Ray, and a PetTheDog moment with Kate. Instead of the reality of losing everything and hitting rock bottom.

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Howard lived in Texas, the culebras' back yard and his stories have an overabundance of evil snakes, dark cults and serpent men who masquerade as regular human beings. This interaction may also be where Lord Oculto got his interest in pulp fantasy from. \n\nThe second half of The Movie is basically a macho gorefest that serves to make Seth look like the ultimate badass, with the MercyKill of Ritchie added to make him sympathetic. His experience with the labyrinth, a dark meander through his troubled past that he wouldn't want to be sharing, is replaced by a final stand-off with the vampires, which he ultimately wins. Even the ending gets changed to his benefit, he gets the money, the life in El Ray, and a PetTheDog moment with Kate. Instead of the reality of losing everything and hitting rock bottom.
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[[WMG: Creator/RobertEHoward had a run-in with the culebras]]

Howard lived in Texas, the culebras' back yard and his stories have an overabundance of evil snakes, dark cults and serpent men who masquerade as regular human beings. This interaction may also be where Lord Oculto got his interest in pulp fantasy from.
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Seth from the movie is his idealised version of himself, TheAce who runs the whole Gecko operation and always gets what he wants. Ritchie is turned into TheLoad who Seth spends the entire time cleaning up after, and any indications of his actual skills are carefully removed. Satanico, depsite being a driving force behind the entire story, is reduced to a bit part and is quickly dispatched by Seth after a BondOneLiner. Carlos is turned into a clueless idiot and Ranger Gonzales is removed entirely, as it sound better if they eluded the entire police force and got into Mexico with no help. Kate and Jacob, are still portrayed positively as they're the two Seth actually liked.

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Seth from the movie is his idealised version of himself, TheAce who runs the whole Gecko operation and always gets what he wants. Ritchie is turned into TheLoad who Seth spends the entire time cleaning up after, and any indications of his actual skills are carefully removed. Satanico, Santanico, depsite being a driving force behind the entire story, is reduced to a bit part and is quickly dispatched by Seth after a BondOneLiner. Carlos is turned into a clueless idiot and Ranger Gonzales is removed entirely, as it sound better if they eluded the entire police force and got into Mexico with no help. Kate and Jacob, are still portrayed positively as they're the two Seth actually liked.

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[[WMG: Frost and Sex Machine knew about the vampires.]]

If you pay attention to their behavior before the attacks start, they're not really paying attention to the dancers. Frost is focused on trying to build a tower out of dominoes, and SM seems to be testing various people to see just how tough they are. They also seem totally unfazed when the staff start changing. They just stand up and get right to the monster-killing. They were probably [[HeroOfAnotherStory vampire hunters]] who came to the Titty Twister to do their thing.

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And not like "oh, he suspects", ''he knew''. Notice that Seth always says stuff like "That guy didn't recognize shit" whenever Richie tries to explain why he did things. This would also explain why Seth acts much calmer than one usually would be if they encountered simething Richie did.


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And not like "oh, he suspects", ''he knew''. Notice that Seth always says stuff like "That guy didn't recognize shit" whenever Richie tries to explain why he did things. This would also explain why Seth acts much calmer than one usually would be if they encountered simething something Richie did.




Ranger Gonzalez's very existence is the single biggest difference between the movie and the show. His presence at the Titty Twister will result in the big fight playing differently than it did in the movie, resulting in Santanico's survival.

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Ranger Gonzalez's very existence is the single biggest difference between the movie and the show. His presence at the Titty Twister will result in the big fight playing differently than it did in the movie, resulting in Santanico's survival.survival.

[[WMG: [[Film/FromDuskTillDawn The Movie]] is the way that Seth Gecko from [[Series/FromDuskTillDawn The Series]] retells the story of the night at the Titty Twister]]

Seth from the movie is his idealised version of himself, TheAce who runs the whole Gecko operation and always gets what he wants. Ritchie is turned into TheLoad who Seth spends the entire time cleaning up after, and any indications of his actual skills are carefully removed. Satanico, depsite being a driving force behind the entire story, is reduced to a bit part and is quickly dispatched by Seth after a BondOneLiner. Carlos is turned into a clueless idiot and Ranger Gonzales is removed entirely, as it sound better if they eluded the entire police force and got into Mexico with no help. Kate and Jacob, are still portrayed positively as they're the two Seth actually liked.

The second half of The Movie is basically a macho gorefest that serves to make Seth look like the ultimate badass, with the MercyKill of Ritchie added to make him sympathetic. His experience with the labyrinth, a dark meander through his troubled past that he wouldn't want to be sharing, is replaced by a final stand-off with the vampires, which he ultimately wins. Even the ending gets changed to his benefit, he gets the money, the life in El Ray, and a PetTheDog moment with Kate. Instead of the reality of losing everything and hitting rock bottom.
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[[WMG: Seth Gecko always knew that Richie had a mental illness.]]

And not like "oh, he suspects", ''he knew''. Notice that Seth always says stuff like "That guy didn't recognize shit" whenever Richie tries to explain why he did things. This would also explain why Seth acts much calmer than one usually would be if they encountered simething Richie did.

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!!For the movies:



He just simply made a SideBet on whether or not Seth would survive the night.

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He just simply made a SideBet on whether or not Seth would survive the night.night.

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[[WMG: Santanico will live because of Ranger Gonzalez]]

Ranger Gonzalez's very existence is the single biggest difference between the movie and the show. His presence at the Titty Twister will result in the big fight playing differently than it did in the movie, resulting in Santanico's survival.
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[[WMG: Carlos knew about the vampires.]]
He just simply made a SideBet on whether or not Seth would survive the night.

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